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I thought I knew why that was happening, but it seems I don't. 00:40:30 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-852-g06c43eb (34) 00:40:44 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:52 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 00:45:44 Other (inception) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-868-g3f2db0c 00:48:36 -!- SatanicMechanic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:53:22 -!- gastrox has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:53:27 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:29 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:01:51 the new monster pick for the abyss is quite a bit more horrifying than the last one 01:02:29 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 01:06:46 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07:52 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:17:44 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:48 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:52 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:38:05 -!- ChongLi has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 01:43:02 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 02:02:58 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:13:25 -!- lexackson has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18:47 -!- Pikkle has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:24:37 -!- tizzy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:25:23 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:27:26 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:29:31 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: bye] 02:32:57 -!- eb has quit [] 02:38:11 -!- DainHome has quit [Changing host] 02:52:01 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:23 Shopping list has a wrong price (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6320) by Medar 03:10:43 -!- Wah has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13:28 -!- Tilio has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:15:05 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:23 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:29:24 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 03:35:30 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:40:56 -!- TZer0 has quit [Quit: leaving] 03:41:02 -!- Beneather has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:39 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 03:46:00 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:43 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:49:24 -!- bmfx has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:45 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:19:14 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:33:33 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 04:37:14 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:40:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-852-g06c43eb 05:27:42 -!- gauss has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:30:27 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:32:58 -!- Ilirion has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:38:45 -!- gauss has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:12:32 -!- Cag has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:17:52 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:19:27 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:22:07 -!- cag has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:25:34 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:55:02 -!- Cag_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:55:21 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:31 -!- Wolfechu has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:22 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:25:23 -!- Tally has quit [Quit: Some people spread happiness wherever they go. Some whenever they go.] 07:26:53 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:56 -!- clouded_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:37:02 -!- Tilio has quit [Client Quit] 07:40:14 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:52:34 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 07:53:19 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 08:08:37 -!- Lawman0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 08:14:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:41 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:21:18 an armour unrand idea: "full suit of FOO armour": around +239587239857 AC, no properties. Can't be worn if you have a helmet, gloves or boots. 08:21:45 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:54 (and obviously need to be able to wear stuff on those slots) 08:23:20 kilobyte: would you use it? :) 08:23:40 depends on how much 239587239857 is 08:23:46 indeed 08:25:58 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:29:14 m00se (L21 GhMo) (Blade) 08:30:26 -!- sab0t has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:31:19 !lm m00se type=crash -log 08:31:19 3. m00se, XL21 GhMo, T:55075 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/m00se/crash-m00se-20121017-132913.txt 08:31:46 <|amethyst> he said it was stuck, so I killed it manually 08:32:46 -!- m00se_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:33:21 the "You need to enable at least one skill for training." prompt doesn't let SIGHUP through 08:33:45 similar to Draw Three, by the way, that still crashes 08:35:38 galehar: if at that moment we did nothing and let the game quit and save, what would happen? Would the xp be lost? Or would it stay until the next gain? 08:38:18 there are other cases, like acquirement. If you think about what you'd want to get, it's possible the game will time out/etc, and then you lose the acquirement for no fault of yours. 08:39:24 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39:31 Stack Five loses piety and marks the deck as stacked, not sure about Deal Four 08:39:45 "think about what you'd want to get" == "look up a bazillion spoilers until power outage" :) 08:40:09 choosing what to identify/enchant too 08:40:35 ask on ##crawl, switch to other browser window in webtiles 08:40:48 then a wife/kid/cat comes and wants something... 08:41:52 obviously, only cases than can be abused to cheat (Draw Three currently) are severe, but the rest are still bugs... 08:42:03 identify/enchant are cancellable if identified, right? 08:42:21 (you draw three Wild Magics? SIGHUP. You got a bad mutation? Draw Three and SIGHUP.) 08:42:26 elliott: yes 08:42:46 <|amethyst> elliott: if it's identified you probably would make those decisions before reading 08:43:07 enchant is not acquirement, of course, nowhere near its priority to fix 08:43:08 <|amethyst> so unidentified is precisely the case where kilobyte's situation is most likely to happen 08:43:53 right but who asks ##crawl what to use their first targetted scroll on on D:3 :p 08:43:57 I guess all these cases are on one boat, though: we'd want some "restartable but uncancellable action" support 08:44:09 i mean it is a bug sure but sounds very minor compared to the others 08:44:41 does crawl still do prompty stuff by just doing it inline, rather than having it as part of the serialised game state / main loop? 08:44:42 <|amethyst> kilobyte: could fit in well with an action/scheduling rewrite (there had been talk of using a priority queue for stuff that is going to happen) 08:44:48 latter would solve it trivially but would require restructuring 08:45:03 <|amethyst> elliott: yes, prompts are almost always inline 08:45:39 <|amethyst> kilobyte: too bad you can't serialise a continuation :) 08:45:44 Deal Four can possibly have multiple such actions stacked 08:46:14 |amethyst: you can in some languages :p 08:46:16 (imperfectly) 08:46:40 <|amethyst> FR: save by dumping core 08:47:16 |amethyst: <3 08:47:31 it is a shame that to have save states you need to turn your control flow inside out by plumbing everything through a big state machine 08:48:49 <|amethyst> you could maybe avoid that by having an enum value for each (important) prompt, serialising that, and having a reprompt function that takes such an enum and re-does the prompt (and the resulting decision) 08:49:40 <|amethyst> so you wouldn't have to invert the logic as much---just put prompting-and-what-follows into a separate function from everything else 08:49:55 |amethyst: if C++ had a way to go from function name -> function you could just say: yesno("blah de blah?", "my_callback_function_taking_the_answer") and avoid having to define a global enum 08:49:59 the action rather than the prompt, preferably 08:50:05 but it doesn't (well, without being massively unportable) 08:50:14 elliott: there's more than just a callback 08:50:18 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 08:50:19 -!- antrees has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:50:43 <|amethyst> kilobyte: what about in a multi-prompt action? 08:50:51 and Stack Five is not a prompt 08:51:23 <|amethyst> I was using "prompt" to mean "something that can block", but yeah 08:51:43 I think all such cases have just one argument, even, so serializing would be dead simple 08:53:48 acquirement: acq source (scroll/genie); Draw Three: deck slot; Stack Five: deck slot; Deal Four: deck slot again (could be scheduled multiple times, once per card); identify, enchant: no argument (id could be scheduled multiple times too) 08:53:48 or identify: number of ids 08:55:34 <|amethyst> what about swapping between two prompty weapons.... I guess that can just be aborted 08:56:02 <|amethyst> assuming you don't actually do anything between the two prompts 08:56:23 Tome of Destruction: rolled effect (might be interrupted if it needs targetting, people may want to avoid some); cTele 08:56:47 is there any case prompty weapons could be forced? 08:56:56 -!- voker57_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:57:04 doh, Blade card 08:59:07 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:00:15 <|amethyst> kryft: can you try again 09:00:17 <|amethyst> doh 09:00:24 |amethyst: Ok 09:02:32 <|amethyst> kilobyte: how do you feel about doing some save manipulation... krypt got a crash on entering a zig and now has the 09:02:32 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:02:39 <|amethyst> ASSERT(old_level.depth != -1) 09:05:16 <|amethyst> http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/kryft/crash-kryft-20121017-140142.txt http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/kryft/crash-recursive-kryft-20121017-140142.txt 09:05:19 |amethyst: as in, a bad level needs to deleted? 09:05:49 <|amethyst> kilobyte: not sure... I know some people have been able to (locally) restore their saves by ignoring that assert 09:05:51 Lua error: ...ster/crawl-git-06c43eb0b2/data/dat/dlua/ziggurat.lua:564: attempt to call field 'resolve_map' (a nil value) 09:05:54 looks like someone broke zigs? 09:06:04 <|amethyst> %git resolve_map 09:06:04 Could not find commit resolve_map (git returned 128) 09:06:08 <|amethyst> %git :/resolve_map 09:06:10 03kilobyte * 0.12-a0-836-g840f2d0: Remove dgn_resolve_map(). 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 0+ 31-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/840f2d079fa5 09:07:09 Maybe I should make a mummy-exclusive alt, krypt 09:07:20 <|amethyst> kilobyte: I guess regenerating the zig and fixing old_level would fix it? 09:08:15 won't it not regenerate properly because it's trying to use resolve_map which was removed? 09:08:24 <|amethyst> after fixing that, yeah 09:09:24 elliott: OMGWTF... some Nethacker spy must have broken into my system and replaced the git-grep binary, rigged the terminal to insert a typo in the search, or do something else nasty! 09:09:41 kilobyte: I blame bhaak 09:17:28 -!- Zicher has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:18:23 Holler when you want me to try logging in again 09:20:45 <|amethyst> does anyone have a line to greensnark? sequell probably needs to point to CAO 0.11 logfiles/milestones sometime in the next 2.5 days or so 09:21:24 <|amethyst> !seen greensnark 09:21:24 I last saw greensnark at Mon Sep 24 22:11:33 2012 UTC (3w 1d 16h 9m 51s ago) joining the channel. 09:22:03 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-853-g5a75311: Revert "Remove dgn_resolve_map()." 10(6 minutes ago, 1 file, 31+ 0-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/5a75311d0f82 09:22:06 -!- y2s82 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:22:24 <|amethyst> kryft: did you do a save backup? 09:22:48 |amethyst: I don't think so; was that the advanced menu thing elliott mentioned? 09:22:52 <|amethyst> kryft: yeah 09:23:01 <|amethyst> and paste the URL here 09:23:31 <|amethyst> kilobyte: how necessary is that old_level assert? Can something be done to prevent that from happening when level-gen crashes? 09:23:59 <|amethyst> because as it is it turns many situations that could be fixed with a level regen into broken saves 09:24:08 wait, wait... how exactly does the save have new player data if the level transition didn't succeed? 09:25:18 |amethyst: http://dobrazupa.org/saves/kryft-crawl-git-06c43eb0b2-121017-1424.tar.bz2 09:25:21 does something commit the save in-between? 09:25:24 <|amethyst> kryft: thanks 09:25:45 |amethyst: Np (it was surprisingly difficult with putty= 09:26:10 got to trot, bwanas, though 09:26:13 putty copies on selection like x11 terminals, right? 09:26:29 <|amethyst> yeah, you can drag to select 09:26:40 <|amethyst> err, select to copy I mean 09:26:44 elliott: Ah, I wish I'd known 09:27:40 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:40 kilobyte: was the question about a !exp? 09:33:49 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-853-g5a75311 (34) 09:34:07 about what woudl happen if save and exit at the "You need to enable at least one skill" prompt 09:34:32 in this case, the answer would be that the exp is lost 09:35:12 on another topic, isn't the default char_set unicode? 09:35:28 yes 09:35:52 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 09:36:05 but setting it to unicode actually set it to CSET_OLD_UNICODE 09:36:11 and the doc doesn't explain it at all 09:36:15 it's very misleading 09:37:10 the default is almost all ascii 09:37:15 but it uses unicode for clouds, portals, trees 09:37:20 maybe a few other features 09:37:21 but it still has # walls and so on 09:37:29 if you set char_set = ibm you get unicode walls and stuff iirc 09:38:19 Isn't it extremely confusing and undocumented? 09:38:41 |amethyst: I assume there's no need to report this 09:38:51 -!- Mandevil_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:38:59 galehar: i think the confusing thing is just in the enum names 09:39:09 well 09:39:16 the char set names in rcs are historical and not very descriptive 09:39:22 <|amethyst> kryft: well, the bug that started it is fixed now 09:39:31 but it's hard to think of anything better for them, since ibm actually just means "unicode versions of all the characters used in the old IBM charset" 09:39:46 |amethyst: Ok, good 09:39:49 <|amethyst> kryft: arguably there should be something about the inability to recover in mantis (but there might already be) 09:40:14 I mean if there is a default and a unicode setting, I'm not expecting the former to contain any unicode glyph 09:40:31 <|amethyst> !tell amethyst http://dobrazupa.org/saves/kryft-crawl-git-06c43eb0b2-121017-1424.tar.bz2 old_level.depth 09:40:31 |amethyst: OK, I'll let amethyst know. 09:40:39 |amethyst: Well, I'm too tired to write a legible bug report anyway, so the question was rhetorical ;) 09:40:54 galehar: I think "char_set = unicode" actually is the default? 09:40:55 maybe not 09:41:04 i'm confused myself now :) 09:41:10 no, the default is default :) 09:43:03 so, if default uses unicode, then I guess it means that unicode support is mandatory, right? (which isn't an issue since unicode support is universal anyway) 09:43:31 what do you mean by mandatory? ascii glyphs are just a "char_set = ascii" away 09:43:54 oh right 09:44:32 (and it barely changes much; portals become \, trees become 7, clouds become #) 09:44:51 orb on { 09:44:54 the most terrible crime 09:45:03 oh right that ew 09:45:21 and aren't clouds 0 09:45:27 oh right they're 0 now 09:45:37 something uses 0 so that the orb can't for some reason, anyway 09:45:43 galehar: anyway char_set = ascii is mostly popular for aesthetic reasons, not compatibility, I think... some people don't like how the portals and trees and clouds look by default and prefer the ascii versions 09:46:05 for instance monqyclouds (¤) are a popular setting amongst char_set = ascii users, and of course that's a Unicode character 09:47:35 <|amethyst> that's in latin1 09:47:35 |amethyst: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:47:43 |amethyst: well, yes, but it's sent as UTF-8 09:47:47 isn't it? 09:47:58 (-- and especially the default portals and trees render quite badly in some fonts) 09:48:03 <|amethyst> on the servers anyway, since we force UTF-8 09:48:12 -!- dagonfive has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:50:11 <|amethyst> develz might not 09:51:55 ok. Actually, the discussion spawned from dpeg's suggestion to use unicode accentuation to show monster weapons 09:52:08 <|amethyst> that would definitely have to be optional 09:52:21 <|amethyst> not all terminals handle combining characters well 09:52:23 why? 09:52:35 I can imagine that looking very bad in my font or others like it 09:52:39 <|amethyst> and there isn't a base unicode character for, say g-grave 09:52:54 reminds me of valrus' rc, though 09:53:01 there are terminals that handle combining characters well? which do? 09:53:13 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 09:53:17 the suggestion was to use accented/umlauted/whatever characters but yeah, that doesn't really work 09:54:00 clearly should animate every monster so that it flashes between its glyph and its weapon's glyph 09:58:04 <|amethyst> honestly I'd rather see 256-colour support first 09:58:34 bhaak: i think putty handles them fine, of all things 10:00:26 |amethyst: yeah but what for? 256 colours can be used for cosmetic, but using it for conveying information can be problematic 10:00:48 you don't want users to have to struggle to distinguish between tones 10:01:05 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 10:01:11 <|amethyst> nothing important anyway 10:01:22 <|amethyst> give uniques who currently have the same colour different shades, maybe 10:01:32 <|amethyst> maybe add some variation to walls/floor 10:01:32 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:01:33 fr crawl requires perfect pitch 10:01:41 clearly animate 256 colours to show weapons 10:01:42 -!- raskol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:01:48 gnoll shifts between yellow and the assigned polearm colour 10:01:57 <|amethyst> also, it would let you have 16-colour backgrounds 10:02:02 nooodl: last time i tried, it didn't: http://i.imgur.com/BHpxI.png and those were only the simple ones where there would be precomposed glyphs available 10:02:08 <|amethyst> which you can't do in most terminal with 8/16-colour stuff 10:02:15 yuck 10:02:20 just as long as crawl doesn't start looking like brogue 10:02:30 the ü looks ok, is it a composed char too? 10:03:03 fr crawl starts looking like brogue please 10:03:19 nooodl: yes. it seems all 3 umlauts are put at the same height, regardless of the height of the base character 10:03:39 i see 10:04:25 <|amethyst> ü is but ü is not 10:05:10 <|amethyst> (they look slightly different for me) 10:05:28 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:05:32 <|amethyst> and Ü Ãœ 10:06:06 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:07:29 -!- Yig has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:08:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:10:15 underline looks bad, but it's supported by about every single terminal, and even those which don't, won't AFAIK produce bad results 10:10:46 hardware text mode and Windows console 10:11:11 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:37 (Hercules graphics cards had underlining in text modes, but I don't think anyone plays Crawl on one :p) 10:13:32 so, how about underlining polearm monsters? 10:14:44 could be an option 10:14:48 linux console doesn't do underline 10:14:59 -!- kwel01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:15:05 |amethyst: i think they should look the same as they are canonical equivalent in unicode 10:15:13 with umlauts and accents as another choice 10:15:20 <|amethyst> elliott: even in framebuffer mode? 10:15:30 |amethyst: i think yes. 10:15:35 i tried it fairly recently and it didn't work 10:15:50 I think framebuffer still emulates hardware consoles 10:16:25 Linus complained about it quite a few years ago, but no one rewrote that code yet 10:16:45 even on non-PC 10:17:01 personally I don't find any sort of polearm accenting necessary, and we should probably nerf monster polearm use at some point anyway (they have 100% success with reaching through monsters, compared with players having 50% success...) 10:17:15 gnoll pack nerf :( 10:18:39 that nerf sounds more like a bugfix 10:18:40 if we do implement some form of polearm accenting, it would be good if it were at least flexible enough to handle other things people might want 10:18:46 kilobyte: yeah 10:19:06 i like the current behaviour, even if inconsistent with players. fr give gnolls reachy arms 10:19:49 like, let people compare a regex against the monster description and apply the accent/umlaut/underline if it matches 10:20:18 maybe the weapon type a monster gets should just be tied to its type? 10:20:35 so gnolls would always get polearms, plain orcs would always get axes or maces or something 10:20:59 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:22:02 I actually feel like accenting for runed/glowing weapons would be more useful than for polearms in some ways 10:22:44 or I can see people just wanting to accent monsters wielding a (known) disto weapon and nothing else 10:23:00 you know, if crawl used a hex grid, you'd have a free cell next to each monster to display, e.g. a weapon glyph 10:23:01 just sayin' 10:25:53 elliptic: there's more than one accent 10:26:12 elliott: A hex grid could end the great los war 10:26:16 the game could turn Vietnamese this way, though 10:26:38 kryft: pfft, assassination's cheaper 10:26:53 ignore the LOS ninjas behind the curtain 10:26:58 they have three or four diacritics on some letters 10:27:07 elliott: Oh so that's what it was 10:27:14 ??hexcrawl 10:27:14 hexcrawl[1/1]: A variant of Crawl on a hexagonal grid, dreamed up by a deranged mind known only as 'zugz'. 10:27:19 kilobyte: I know... but there's probably a limit on how many most people would want to use at once 10:27:26 uh, where is that url 10:27:55 meh, there is a page for it somewhere with a source download and screenshot... too bad it's based on 0.3 or something 10:28:05 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:09 !messages 10:28:10 No messages for bh. 10:31:01 <|amethyst> FR: unrand very long polearm (radius^2 = 10 or 13 reaching) 10:31:38 |amethyst: bigger-than-los reaching 10:31:40 call it 10 foot pole 10:32:01 I thought we had that already, and it's called smiting 10:32:23 Except for the bigger-than-los part, of course 10:35:17 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 10:36:39 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:45 elliott: try in git 10:40:21 0.3 :( 10:41:22 kilobyte: well, the git repo won't have the handy screenshot :) 10:41:39 i played it a bit when i first found it... hard to tell how nice the hexness is when you have to deal with old crawl's interface 10:44:27 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:17 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:57:06 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 11:01:22 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:07:30 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:16:17 -!- Ilirion has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:17:57 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:21:04 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:26 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:26:44 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:28:47 -!- Ilirion has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:30:15 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:58 |amethyst: This is probably irrelevant, but I think I saw a warning in the same game while entering crypt for the first time; a few lines of red text starting with something like "couldn't find vault grunt_foo". I asked about it here and in ##crawl, but I don't think anyone reacted 11:41:34 Vault generation Lua errors should probably be logged to the milestones file 11:41:34 greensnark: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:44:37 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:39 I saw that, I think 11:46:08 iirc this is grunt_rogues_gallery or something like that 11:46:27 yeah, the problem is that the subvaults it uses are uniq_* but the vaults themselves can be duplicated 11:46:52 or so it would seem 11:46:59 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:47:01 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:13 it's only luniq_serial 11:47:42 could either make the subvaults luniq_* instead of uniq_ or make the serial vault only generate once 11:48:42 I'm not sure what would be best in this case 11:50:27 -!- shoe1 has quit [Client Quit] 11:50:40 elliott: That's it I think 11:50:58 elliptic: Uh, that was meant for you 11:51:02 hi 11:51:45 -!- BrocoLee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:58:27 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:58:40 -!- voxxik has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:59:37 -!- chlorine has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:06:39 -!- Brocolee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:07:39 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 12:14:29 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:19:16 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:43 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-854-gf2a1e2e: Use runed doors for the outsides of door vaults instead of the whole vault 10(3 minutes ago, 2 files, 66+ 56-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/f2a1e2e5ac57 12:21:56 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:24:19 elliott: ah left overnight the table dropped 12:24:23 so I can start over after work 12:24:51 woo 12:28:09 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 12:28:49 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:41:21 -!- Nomi has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:48 -!- voxxik has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:51 -!- Nomi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:53 -!- knaveightt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:54:41 -!- ZRN has quit [] 13:13:27 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:53 -!- Rammers has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:23:36 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:18 -!- ophanim_school has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:36:13 -!- b0lt has quit [Client Quit] 13:39:00 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 13:42:23 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: tensorpudding] 13:45:52 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:45:53 -!- Coffeespoons has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:45:53 -!- Lawman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:45:53 -!- Garhauk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- brocolee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:18 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:43 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:46:43 -!- Ilirion has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:47:07 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:55:54 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:57:33 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:58:06 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:11 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 14:07:39 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:08:11 -!- voxxik has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:15:11 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 14:18:59 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:23:56 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:55 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 14:45:52 -!- Valarioth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:47:03 So people have been calling for greensnark, and greensnark was here, and nobody bothered to ask him about the sequell logfile pointer??? 14:47:32 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:11 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 14:48:36 elliptic did in ##crawl I think? 14:48:53 logfile pointer? 14:50:38 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 14:51:00 16:20 <+|amethyst> does anyone have a line to greensnark? sequell probably needs to point to CAO 0.11 logfiles/milestones sometime in the next 2.5 days or so 14:52:28 oh, yes, he did that before he showed up actually :) 14:52:53 though it isn't actually important for tourney, just for IRC convenience 14:53:02 elliptic: cool! 14:53:23 Still, no formal greeting. Manners on ##crawl-dev are deteriorating. 14:53:23 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:54:05 !lg * cao 0.11 14:54:06 311. Tijol the Nimble (L8 SpEn), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by Prince Ribbit on D:6 on 2012-10-17, with 1516 points after 8331 turns and 0:40:44. 14:54:30 so CAO is in full swing again? 14:56:30 henzell and the scoring scripts aren't up yet, and I don't think there's been any announcement, but afaik playing on it works fine 14:56:34 -!- hart has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:58:26 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:02:16 Invisible monster not auto targeted (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6321) by tabsmasher 15:07:30 -!- Datul has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:08:24 -!- Sab0t_ is now known as sab0t 15:08:38 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:30 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:18:35 -!- domiryuu has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:21:38 MarvinPA: in many other cases runed doors are expected to keep monsters away. I conflated two cases: autoexplore guard and monster stopper, forcing them into one to keep things simple. Thus, for the door vault, I have two ideas: 15:22:09 1. making the outer layer a single connected door -- loses some of the vault's concept 15:22:35 2. having them linked via lua, opening one makes all doors lose runeness 15:23:49 elliptic made the point that having doors that monsters can't open is very rarely necessary and that conflating the two concepts is probably a bad idea in ##crawl 15:24:52 there weren't many vaults that used the old lua_restrict functionality were there? certainly not every vault with a secret door in it 15:24:56 like there really aren't very many cases where we want to constrain monsters with doors they can't open... it makes noise even less relevant, among other things 15:25:30 I didn't keep notes which runed door replaces what 15:26:15 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:26:40 it seems like just letting monsters open runed doors would be a reasonable solution... if there are vaults that truly need monsters to not open the door then it'll be a noticeable enough problem that it could be fixed 15:27:53 so someone should reintroduce that restrict_door functionality and go through all runed doors. It's made somewhat tricky by me recently making = = runed_door, they're not greppable anymore :( 15:28:15 it presumably wouldn't be too hard to take an old revision and grep for lua_restrict 15:28:58 I think when this has been brought up before, the main question was what to do with open runed doors 15:29:08 I did a bit of a review to spot places that would want this functionality, and ones that do not want it. 15:29:20 hmm right 15:30:20 another reason to keep status quo: knowing a door is restricted is spoilery knowledge that gives you a benefit for knowing the vault in question. The door could be marked, but this would require multiple door types... 15:30:51 how many vaults are there that make good use of not letting monsters open doors? 15:31:00 I can only think of one or two examples and they're a bit lame anyway 15:31:13 well, I think that most of the vaults that used lua_restrict didn't really need it, yes, or could be altered to not use it 15:31:26 elliott: I'd say, most runed ones... 15:31:39 that doesn't sound right 15:31:46 since typically what they do is contain some highly OOD danger 15:31:50 since all the ones that were secret doors were unrestricted if you found the doors 15:32:02 kilobyte: and we should let the OOD come out if the player makes lots of noise near it 15:32:05 and half of the point of e.g. door vault is that monsters can open the doors if you make too much noise 15:32:25 kilobyte: those vaults worked perfectly well with regular doors 15:32:27 !tell edlothiol what was the issue fixed by ab9b028? (see #6290) 15:32:27 galehar: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 15:32:44 highly ood dangers are pretty lame if they don't do anything, yeah 15:32:46 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:57 as in, the issue was people autoexplore-opening the door, not people making noise near the door and getting killed 15:33:02 the latter is a pretty good feature IMO 15:34:17 like, players should have reason to be careful when they see a runed door... as things are, seeing a runed door makes you feel safer because you know that nothing bad can wander towards you from there 15:34:34 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:34:50 good point 15:36:23 my suggestion for runed doors: they never stop being runed, regardless of who opens them. If they are closed, then they block autoexplore, but if they are open, then they do not. And they should still stop autoexplore when they first come into view regardless of open/closed status 15:40:47 that sounds about right to me, then it's probably just sprint that really needs to stop monsters from opening doors? 15:41:02 and maybe a small number of vaults, would still have to check and maybe change them 15:47:32 -!- UnhappyMeal has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:48:30 letting monsters open doors in sprint sounds fun 15:48:41 especially since afaict sprint is still 80% normal doors 15:49:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:51:22 -!- Lawman_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:51:32 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: My work is end \(^o^)/] 15:52:37 -!- _D_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:54:54 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:55:02 -!- Venter_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:57:49 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.1/20121010144125]] 15:58:52 -!- Vizer_ is now known as Vizer 15:59:45 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:46 -!- johnthebear has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 16:02:33 -!- Tally has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:05:56 -!- codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:06:19 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:06:36 I agree with elliptic on runed doors, and I think they should only ever be used when the vault would be an autoexplore trap otherwise 16:15:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:16:22 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:17:29 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 16:22:11 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:34:20 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 16:35:07 -!- Shovelmint has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:42:47 -!- Ragnor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:45 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:44:46 -!- Ragnor has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46:26 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:29 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 16:46:32 -!- ystael has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:49:49 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:50:28 -!- Turgon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:51:18 -!- Jaxy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52:01 -!- hagb4rd has quit [Quit: hagb4rd] 16:54:57 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:59:17 quit 16:59:19 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:00:11 -!- rkd has quit [] 17:00:52 -!- Ragnor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:02:06 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 17:04:19 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:05:30 -!- nooodl__ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:07 -!- nooodl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:07:26 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:08:29 -!- kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:09:51 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:12:34 -!- nooodl__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:12:58 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 17:16:28 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:20:57 -!- buki has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:27:09 -!- Shovelmint has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:28:46 due_elkab is still shit, right? 17:28:53 (re runed doors) 17:29:14 also re jory, if you intended to or not :P 17:34:00 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:38:18 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: tensorpudding] 17:44:35 -!- Theolypse is now known as Kyrris 17:47:32 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:48:46 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:49:40 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:52:09 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:55:23 -!- VG has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:55:45 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 17:57:24 -!- eb has quit [Quit: I quit] 18:07:56 -!- Kyrris has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:28 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:14:08 -!- y2s82 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:14:52 -!- eb has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:18:51 -!- gastrox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:20:20 -!- pointsofdata has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 18:23:22 -!- DainHome has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 18:30:25 -!- tensorpudding_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:57:07 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:01:43 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:06:09 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-859-gb706cf8: Document item_glyph. 10(4 minutes ago, 2 files, 16+ 4-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/b706cf8a7e1c 19:06:09 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-858-g71dc8c1: Tag poisonous and ghoul/necrophage corpses as inedible. 10(25 minutes ago, 2 files, 7+ 7-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/71dc8c1b29ff 19:06:09 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-857-g1225f92: Synonym "evil_eating" as "forbidden". 10(60 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/1225f92d9520 19:06:09 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-856-g3c0c5f3: Allow colouring/reglyphing items based on their filter prefixes. 10(83 minutes ago, 1 file, 2+ 0-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/3c0c5f3e7b75 19:06:09 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-855-g74c3775: Unsabotage food prefixes. 10(87 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 6-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/74c377595af3 19:07:32 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 19:08:19 -!- piss has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:09:04 -!- phrzn` is now known as piss 19:09:53 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:19:57 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:21:23 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-860-gb14b6c7: Don't use a std::map for item_glyph, as order of overrides matters. 10(4 minutes ago, 3 files, 5+ 3-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/b14b6c746d29 19:23:15 -!- CampinSam has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:29:39 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:38:49 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:23 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:18 -!- wasd22 has quit [Quit: You slip out of the net!] 19:45:01 -!- dtsund has left ##crawl-dev 19:50:20 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:53:30 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:57:33 -!- Yermak has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:58:45 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:41 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Quit: tensorpudding] 20:07:13 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07:59 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:05 !messages 20:08:05 No messages for bh. 20:08:18 -!- Vizer_ is now known as Vizer 20:09:20 !tell bh < Wenzell> No messages for bh. 20:09:21 Zannick: OK, I'll let bh know. 20:09:24 :> 20:09:29 !abyss Zannick 20:09:31 bh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 20:09:31 bh casts a spell. Zannick is devoured by a tear in reality! 20:09:35 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:09:36 bh: <3 20:10:58 Zannick: til wenzell ignores leading spaces 20:12:24 !messages 20:12:25 (1/1) Zannick said (3m 3s ago): < Wenzell> No messages for bh. 20:13:14 so many highlights 20:13:24 * Zannick -> dinner 20:13:35 bad move zannick 20:13:44 what 20:14:41 * bh shrugs 20:14:46 it's about that time 20:20:05 -!- elliott has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:20:05 -!- knaveightt has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:21:36 -!- Zaba has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:28:04 -!- ajikeshi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:31:38 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:53 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 20:57:36 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:01:01 -!- Chozo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:04:36 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:19:55 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:25:44 -!- BirdoPrey has quit [Quit: BirdoPrey] 21:47:44 -!- letmeon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:48:47 -!- Datul has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:50:31 -!- Kyrris has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:50:31 -!- knaveightt has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:26 -!- voxxik has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:10 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:04:57 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 22:08:22 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-860-gb14b6c7 22:09:48 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:10:46 I saw a FR for a worm that leaves walls throughout the abyss. Instead of that, how about something that trades place with the terrain tile it walks into 22:16:31 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:19:07 -!- y2s82 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21:16 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:22:03 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 22:22:55 -!- Chozo has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.1/20121010144125]] 22:26:34 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 22:33:47 -!- crate_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:34:12 -!- Sabaki has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:35:39 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 22:39:35 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 16.0.1/20121010144125]] 22:49:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 22:56:44 -!- shoe1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:19:32 -!- kittykai has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:19:43 and tramples the player 23:19:56 thus moving them two spaces away from the abyss exit 23:21:08 -!- petern is now known as Guest30239 23:21:48 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 23:21:53 -!- Guest30239 has quit [Client Quit] 23:23:42 Zannick: you're mean?/ 23:25:21 -!- Beneather has quit [Quit: Beneather] 23:25:51 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:26:45 -!- letmeon has quit [Client Quit] 23:28:08 -!- Ashenden has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:30:32 wow, this is a seriously cool monster 23:31:30 Zannick: I gave it trample, just to make you happy 23:31:44 me? happy? 23:31:59 :) 23:40:48 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:42:55 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:43:25 I just made an improvement in "the abyss looks like where you got banished from" 23:43:37 rather than sticking around forever it will decay into the background abyss 23:46:53 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:47:21 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:47:43 -!- Rewans has quit [] 23:48:37 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:50:12 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:53:21 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host]