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00:07:40 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-816-gb299636
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02:14:38 <Cheibriados> Autohide cursor feature (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6316) by adzeitor
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03:20:20 <Napkin> guys?
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03:20:24 <Napkin> fatal: reference is not a tree: 4017b172d468030d4d172db203613a8e557f3a5a
03:20:25 <Napkin> Unable to checkout '4017b172d468030d4d172db203613a8e557f3a5a' in submodule path 'crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl-android'
03:20:28 <Napkin> ---
03:20:29 <Napkin> help?
03:25:23 <Napkin> had to delete and redownload crawl-ref/source/contrib/sdl-android
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06:35:26 <galehar> Napkin: I've moved the sdl-android submodule to a different repository
06:35:38 <galehar> just delete it, it's not mandatory
06:35:58 <galehar> it is skipped now when doing "submodule update --init"
06:37:09 <kilobyte> on my system, git created a directory .git/modules with nothing but sdl-android's git files
06:38:00 <kilobyte> not sure if it's because of some quirk in the way sdl-android has been set up or because of some change in git (placing all .git dirs in one place?)
06:38:48 <edlothiol> hm, I have that directory too, but it also contained git files for other submodules
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06:39:26 <kilobyte> doh, I can check out a fresh clone to check
06:40:02 <edlothiol> I just deleted it, doesn't seem to have hurt
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06:41:48 <kilobyte> yay, 160KB/s download speed from gitorious :(
06:48:04 <edlothiol> the .git/modules gets created by submodule update
06:48:45 <edlothiol> and the submodule dirs themselves only contain a file named .git with content like "gitdir: ../../../../.git/modules/crawl-ref/source/contrib/lua"
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06:56:29 <edlothiol> * When populating a new submodule directory with "git submodule init", the $GIT_DIR metainformation directory for submodules is created inside $GIT_DIR/modules/<name>/ directory of the superproject and referenced via the gitfile mechanism. This is to make it possible to switch between commits in the superproject that has and does not have the submodule in the tree without re-cloning.
06:56:37 <edlothiol> from the git 1.7.8 changelog
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11:38:22 <HangedMan> 12:38 < Sizzell> HangedMan the Covert (L10 SpAK), worshipper of Lugonu, blasted by a Hell Sentinel (blast of hellfire) on Abyss:1, with 4295 points after 10696 turns and 1:34:37.
11:43:45 <kilobyte> < Sizzell> ???
11:44:44 <kilobyte> I see no merge...
11:44:56 <HangedMan> cszo has it as a fork option for trunk
11:45:26 <HangedMan> that was 10k turns of reachkiting and running around the starting abyss without ever leaving it, for referene
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11:58:04 <bh> !seen kilobyte
11:58:04 <Wenzell> I last saw kilobyte at Sun Oct 14 16:51:09 2012 UTC (6m 55s ago) saying barely 300k km/s, we really need an upgrade on ##crawl.
11:58:25 <kilobyte> bh: meow?
11:58:50 <bh> kilobyte: I don't have strong feelings on abyss liquids, apart from lava. The lava smoke is disorienting
11:58:50 <HangedMan> current levels of liquids in abyss as far as my spak shenanigans have gone are Fine
11:59:14 <bh> HangedMan: how about the completely broken 'pick monster'? :) Bored fighting imps?
12:00:11 <HangedMan> well I have gained new appreciation of fleeing from white imps because throw frost hurts, shadow imps being glass-cannony, and running from the rare random sixfirhy/tmons/smoke demon/lich
12:00:34 <kilobyte> white imps nuke your potions
12:01:00 <HangedMan> when you start in abyss there aren't many potions to handle anyway
12:01:19 <bh> HangedMan: read a scroll of teleport :)
12:01:20 <kilobyte> I mean for a regular abyssed character
12:01:32 <HangedMan> possibly I am just reveling in the novelty of starting and playing solely in abyss
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12:02:09 <HangedMan> the abyssal shifts are weird and buggy but most of the layouts stuff I've seen is pretty good
12:02:33 <kilobyte> !lg . char=spck s=cv
12:02:33 <Sequell> 381 games for kilobyte (char=spck): 305x 0.5, 73x 0.4, 2x 0.7, 0.8
12:02:55 <kilobyte> I played with kiting imps ages ago too :p
12:03:01 <bh> HangedMan: abyss shift is just commented out in the version running on cszo
12:03:14 <bh> I was trying to debug something and disabled it
12:03:38 <kilobyte> old (pre-0.10) Abyss tended to produce lots of dead ends, though
12:03:40 <HangedMan> but ages ago you didn't have reachkiting!
12:04:08 <kilobyte> HangedMan: yeah, it was either a fair fight or running away
12:04:10 <kilobyte> ie, suckage
12:04:26 <kilobyte> I was a total noob too
12:05:33 <kilobyte> I mean, I still do totally noobish actions, like splatting to some mere hellions and tormentors as a Zinnite with 200 piety
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12:06:19 <bh> HangedMan: I'm trying to robin inception
12:06:32 <bh> kilobyte: my latest n00b was walking up to a sleeping hydra and casting sticky flame.
12:07:54 <kilobyte> what's wrong there, assuming you can survive a single round?
12:08:10 <bh> it didn't die and then I made bad decisions
12:08:21 <kilobyte> !lg . race=mi place=pan start>=20121001 s=killer,god
12:08:22 <Sequell> 2 games for kilobyte (race=mi place=pan start>=20121001): 2x a hellion (2x Zin)
12:08:57 <kilobyte> then you apply a second sticky and keep walking away
12:09:34 <bh> mistakes were made.
12:09:51 <elliptic> well, usually you should at least wait for the hydra to wake up and step next to you rather than stepping next to it
12:10:11 <bh> or just blast it with spells that would have vaporized it from a distance
12:10:56 <kilobyte> hint: with 27 Invoc (a minotaur has nowhere to put xp) and full piety, Sanctuary has 0% fail
12:11:26 <bh> kilobyte: what do you do once you cast elbereth? teleport?
12:11:30 <kilobyte> doing that once means stupidity, doing that twice in a row means you should stop playing for a while :/
12:11:42 <kilobyte> heal, teleport, whatever
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12:15:04 <bh> when did monks get [**….]? cause that's pretty rad
12:15:17 <ghallberg> bh: Uhm, way back.
12:15:27 <ghallberg> It's one of my two or three patches :P
12:15:55 <kilobyte> Aug 31 2011
12:16:13 <bh> ghallberg: hooray :)
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12:18:15 <bh> Is there any way to access the original description of an item after you've id'd it?
12:18:45 <kilobyte> in the code or in the game?
12:18:49 <bh> in the game
12:18:53 <kilobyte> no
12:19:22 <elliott> can't you do it with ?/
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12:42:21 <elliott> felids are the only darkgrey monsters, right?
12:43:13 <Cheibriados> vampire bat (14b) | Spd: 30 | HD: 3 | HP: 6-15 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Dam: 305(vampiric) | 07undead, evil, sense invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(4), 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 56 | Sz: tiny | Int: animal.

12:43:13 <HangedMan> %??vampire bat
12:43:53 <Cheibriados> demonspawn (14@) | Spd: 10 | HD: 5 | HP: 17-38 | AC/EV: 2/12 | Dam: 10 | 05demonic, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors | Res: 06magic(20), 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 130 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal.

12:43:53 <HangedMan> %??demonspawn
12:44:20 <elliott> fr fix those too
12:44:42 <bh> because darkgrey is 'unseen'?
12:45:05 <HangedMan> also random potions, rings
12:45:15 <elliott> bh: because darkgrey is "out of LOS"
12:45:24 <bh> right
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12:45:58 <elliott> it's also "invisible stuff sometimes"
12:46:00 <elliott> but I dislike that too
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12:46:58 <ontoclasm> clearly the solution is n7.rc
12:47:15 <HangedMan> (dark)blue is just as invisible to me as darkgray
12:47:28 <HangedMan> or at least indistinguishable
12:47:35 <bh> HangedMan: change your terminal settings?
12:48:07 <kilobyte> on my work monitor, darkblue is helluva darker than darkgray
12:48:31 <kilobyte> on my home one, it would be too except I messed with blue levels
12:49:16 <kilobyte> (yeah, you can adjust individual colours, but I'm speaking about raw pixel values, same value for B as for the rest)
12:53:10 <Wensley> |amethyst: does cszo have the tutorial?
12:53:26 <Wensley> does any server have the tutorial right now?
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12:54:03 <edlothiol> Wensley: all servers have the tutorial
12:54:22 <Wensley> edlothiol: can't find it on cszo, on dgl
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12:55:25 <edlothiol> hm, indeed
12:55:41 <Wensley> edlothiol: oh, I guess it's there if you press T, just not listed on the screen
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13:10:28 <lexackson> !tv
13:10:30 <Sequell> 1359. LexAckson, XL20 DrGl, T:58313 requested for FooTV.
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13:11:12 <lexackson> !tv
13:11:13 <Sequell> 1359. LexAckson, XL20 DrGl, T:58313 requested for FooTV.
13:12:11 <lexackson> so that was strange
13:12:45 <lexackson> i think autoexplore just killed me by making me stand in a group of monsters doing nothing for a while
13:13:29 <elliott> !tv lexackson
13:13:29 <Sequell> 1359. LexAckson, XL20 DrGl, T:58313 requested for FooTV.
13:13:49 <lexackson> sorry for hugeterm
13:14:07 <elliott> i think this terminal is actually bigger than my screen
13:14:17 <elliott> it looks like you got paralysed there for no reason, except there isn't even a "Para" status light... weird
13:14:21 <lexackson> yes
13:14:51 <Wensley> on a screen big enough to accomodate the hugeterm I can confirm there's no para light
13:14:54 <Wensley> !log lexackson
13:14:54 <Sequell> 1359. LexAckson, XL20 DrGl, T:58313: http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/LexAckson/morgue-LexAckson-20121014-180850.txt
13:17:37 <lexackson> there was nothing in my clipboard
13:17:50 <lexackson> thought i might have pasted by accident
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13:51:14 <lexackson> oh man
13:51:24 <lexackson> how does one find his way out of inception abyss?
13:52:04 <Wensley> bh: ^
13:52:26 <bh> lexackson: find a gate out.
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13:52:44 <Wensley> do they still exist on abyss:1?
13:52:54 <Wensley> or do you need to go deeper
13:53:02 <bh> they appear on abyss:1.
13:53:30 <lexackson> cool
13:54:43 <bh> Wensley: want to tune mons-pick for the abyss? :)
13:56:05 <Wensley> bh: do you have all the new monsters implemented?
13:56:26 <bh> Wensley: I implemented three: Apocalypse Crab, Lurking Horror and the Bear
13:56:41 <bh> Draco is working on the Wretched Star and the tentacled thing
13:57:10 <Wensley> I think we should wait for the monsters to be in before figuring out the relative rarities
13:57:28 <Wensley> but other wise 100% apocalypse crabs
13:57:44 <bh> It's like a fire crab that mutates you!
13:58:41 <Eronarn> ...bear?
13:59:12 <bh> Eronarn: a unique bear with blink other and klown melee. It explodes into butterflies when you kill it
13:59:31 <Eronarn> uh, okay
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13:59:58 <bh> oh and lava orcs.
14:00:20 <bh> Eronarn: want to make a lava orc monster for the abyss? :)
14:02:57 <Eronarn> bh: should probably wait until lava orcs are settled, design-wise
14:03:07 <Eronarn> e.g. in their most recent iteraction they got slowmove at low temp and fastmove at high temp
14:03:26 <ontoclasm> LOAK
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17:13:37 <Cheibriados> 03MarvinPA 07* 0.12-a0-817-g6d9b1b8: Fix Troves asking for a "book of book of foo" 10(4 minutes ago, 1 file, 0+ 3-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/6d9b1b8b107f
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18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-823-g5d608aa: Hush a couple of errors in --mapstat. 10(2 hours ago, 2 files, 6+ 0-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/5d608aaa27ff
18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-822-g21d8a81: Don't throw false errors about isolated vaults, do throw them in real cases. 10(4 hours ago, 1 file, 9+ 2-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/21d8a81a92d4
18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-821-gc5284c6: Initialize item desc table in --mapstat. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 1+ 0-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/c5284c60d9e6
18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-820-g3f3d475: Give descriptive item dumps with DEBUG_FATAL. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 38+ 32-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/3f3d475e280a
18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-819-g82fa3a4: Allow making MSGCH_ERROR fatal. 10(2 days ago, 1 file, 5+ 0-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/82fa3a4bb07c
18:29:47 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-818-ga36a360: Axe an unused desc link. 10(18 hours ago, 1 file, 0+ 4-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/a36a3603a88d
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19:00:15 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-825-g2209845: Duplicate laboratory_2 to avoid subvault issues. 10(12 minutes ago, 1 file, 19+ 23-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/22098458f3b5
19:00:15 <Cheibriados> 03kilobyte 07* 0.12-a0-824-g2742bd4: Make the Vaults cage trap work. 10(23 minutes ago, 1 file, 1+ 1-) 13https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/2742bd406071
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