00:00:11 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:01:54 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:02:14 -!- tensorpudding_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03:27 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-158-g928de91 (33) 00:06:42 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:06 -!- _dd is now known as Guest28968 00:09:50 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11-b1-158-g928de91 00:10:00 -!- yahhmm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:10:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-609-g627296b (34) 00:19:35 -!- crawl-fan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:20:17 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-158-g928de91 00:20:21 -!- Guest28968 has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 00:20:53 -!- _dd_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:58 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:54 I was hiking today and got bitten by some insect with quite a powerful bite. Which leads me to crawl: What if there was a monster that inflicted 'temporary damage' 00:25:38 isn't all damage temporary if you're not a deep dwarf 00:27:00 Heals faster than regular damage, but is still as fatal 00:32:19 ooh, ooh 00:32:28 i thought of a thing lucy should penance you for :3 00:34:14 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 00:34:33 using silver 00:35:03 yred hates the holy brand, seems like lucy would dislike antichaos 00:36:30 -!- VideoGames is now known as VG 00:36:56 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:38:21 -!- ontoclasm is now known as dantoclasm 00:40:25 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 00:45:33 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:47:50 I dont think lugonu would care, personally 00:48:52 i'm desperately trying to finagle a way to get "the Puny" 00:48:57 xD 00:49:17 Wasn't it 'the Pure'? 00:49:39 oh right 00:49:49 puny is trog penance which is easy 00:50:26 maybe I read too much into it, but lugnou seems to me like a god that doesn't care about conducts. She just wants to corrupt/kill everything. Silver is ok to her, because it can kill things, and that's all she wants 00:51:03 for example, she appreciates you killing chaos spawns 00:51:32 hm 00:51:51 Moreover, a lot of things that silver works against are mutaters, which isn't necessarily Lugonu's thing in the first place 00:52:00 Eat the Pure may be forever out of reach 00:52:05 Haha 00:53:01 lucy penance for getting crazy yiuf to crink a potion of cure mut and thus restore his sanity 00:53:32 You see, that sounds like it would be more of a Xom penance thing, if not for the fact that Xom would just find it hilarious 00:54:08 ontoclasm: we still have silver? 00:54:55 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:55:09 Isn't Xom penance just worshipping Xom? 01:07:13 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:13:15 -!- VG has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:14:53 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:00 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:26:04 not really 01:26:37 you get the same sort of effects, but they are much rarer and are more likely to be negative 01:26:40 -!- bh has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:43:13 -!- flyingpants has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:49:21 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:52:28 -!- freefall has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- unpaidbill has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- Guz has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- due has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- bakaflockaflame has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:28 -!- paxed has quit [*.net *.split] 01:52:34 -!- marcmagu1 has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:54:29 -!- stabwound has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:58:11 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 02:08:49 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:23 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10:10 -!- freefall has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:10 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:10 -!- due has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:22 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:17:12 -!- tkappleton has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:39 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:23:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:25:23 so it seems that using lua to ctrl-F takes a second or so by late game because of throttling 02:25:56 Throttling? 02:27:26 %git c2a18ff79 02:27:27 greensnark * rc2a18ff79032: Set debug hooks in the Lua VM and interrupt scripts that are running too long. (Necessary to make Lua usable on public servers.) (5 years ago, 3 files, 194+ 17-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/c2a18ff79032 02:27:50 Oh 02:27:51 I don't understand it very well 02:31:54 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:35 -!- eb has quit [] 02:39:34 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:54:53 -!- Senri has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:07:36 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:08:34 -!- faze is now known as pivotal 03:09:05 -!- pivotal is now known as faze 03:16:46 -!- omnirizo1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:01 -!- Senri has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:58 03|amethyst * rf15774da891d 10/crawl-ref/ (CREDITS.txt git-hooks/crawl-ref-cia): Update CREDITS.txt and crawl-ref-cia 03:22:55 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:23:04 -!- Silurio_ is now known as silurio 03:23:09 -!- silurio is now known as Silurio 03:23:45 -!- Salivanth has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:30:18 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:35:00 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 03:35:38 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37:32 -!- _dd_ is now known as _dd 03:41:02 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:43:04 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: auf wiedersehen] 03:44:55 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:15 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51:34 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:52:43 -!- Sgun has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:56:49 -!- absolutego has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57:26 -!- ddubois has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:12:26 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 04:18:47 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:25:48 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:27:01 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:29:03 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 04:31:41 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:32:48 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:36:41 -!- absolutego has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:39:35 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:52:12 Auto-convert existing options to remove any warnings related to lists ("=" being used instead of "+=") (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6253) by hayenne 04:53:15 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 04:57:40 -!- Vizer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:00:05 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-603-g38374f5 05:02:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:28 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:33:48 -!- Twinge has quit [] 05:55:16 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:57:25 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:01:41 -!- freefall has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:01:59 -!- freefall has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:36 -!- rkd2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:11:09 -!- imantor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:17:04 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:39 -!- domi has quit [Killed (hitchcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 06:22:17 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 06:22:30 -!- sacredchao is now known as stenno 06:23:41 03elliptic * r4fbd7af92c7d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/database/help.txt stash.cc stash.h): Provide a shortcut for restricting stash searches to the current level. 06:24:31 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:30:01 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:31:37 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:01 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:42:58 -!- Belladonna has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:49:03 -!- Laertes has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 06:51:01 -!- Vizer1 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:54:33 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:07:47 -!- us17 has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 07:08:16 -!- temujin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22:36 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 07:22:52 -!- ONe-Eyed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:25:50 -!- dantoclasm has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:28:56 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:21 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 07:34:09 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Client Quit] 07:45:36 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:45 00:27:00 Heals faster than regular damage, but is still as fatal 07:49:06 this is what 41qys is doing with torment, since the ironman rules wouldn't make tomb work otherwise; elliott also wants to make a monster with such temporary torment that also (I think) also gains unhealed max hp that drains down as you heal back the torment (and has fast regen) 07:54:42 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:04:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 08:10:14 03dolorous * r3d996bfcf159 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Add indentation fixes. 08:14:20 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:16:09 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:36 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:33:43 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:52:30 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:57:06 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Client Quit] 09:02:08 -!- bracc has quit [Quit: bracc] 09:03:21 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:11:15 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:13:18 -!- Salivanth is now known as Sali 09:13:36 bah, delayed_decay doesn't work for chunks 09:20:55 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 09:21:41 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:27:19 -!- Benhimself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:41:58 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:53:47 elliptic: thank you so much! 10:09:45 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Client Quit] 10:10:09 -!- can has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:12:25 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:12:49 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:16:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:06 -!- Sali has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:28:45 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29:16 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:29:25 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 10:31:34 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:58 -!- idiolect has quit [Quit: idiolect] 10:33:33 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:34:21 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:37:19 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:41:56 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 10:49:25 in case anybody feels like applying patches, http://bpaste.net/show/GSlzU7WINfrSY1jx9HGu/ <= that one i would recommend to apply, http://bpaste.net/show/TvvlhHY4Ejev1DnKZCj7/ <= that one may or may not be reasonable. for both, click 'raw' to obtain the format-patch 10:50:27 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:54:23 <|amethyst> Shouldn't it be "latvieÅ¡u", not "latvijas"? 10:54:57 <|amethyst> not knowing Latvian (or any native speakers) I am not sure though 10:55:54 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:58:36 -!- trapworth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:01:41 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:02:57 i'd probably support both 11:03:27 and also "latviesu" to comply with the surrounding cases 11:06:18 <|amethyst> Also added "latvieshu" 11:08:20 03|amethyst * recffaec10665 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Allow "lang = latvie??u" and two 7-bit versions. 11:08:20 03chris.oelmueller * r4756cb1c4950 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Add another English alias for LANG_LV 11:08:21 03chris.oelmueller * r32a4b48f9c87 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Fix language name typo 11:10:11 -!- ophanim is now known as afkanim 11:10:12 -!- flyingpants has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:21:21 -!- Rewans has quit [] 11:22:13 <|amethyst> good news: no one was using "lang = deutch" 11:22:52 heh 11:23:49 -!- TheUnlifeAquatic has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:27:38 -!- trapworth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:33:34 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36:07 -!- Robot2600 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:36:47 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:37:54 -!- Keratin has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:38:53 <|amethyst> %git :/latv 11:39:22 |amethyst * 0.12-a0-615-gecffaec: Allow "lang = latvieÅ¡u" and two 7-bit versions. (36 minutes ago, 1 file, 5+ 1-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/ecffaec10665 11:40:59 <|amethyst> oh, good, Chei handles UTF-8 11:41:17 not sure we should support anything but "de" or "lt" 11:42:35 for 0.11 and zh/ko, I ponder a hack: we could have a list of paths that typically have good enough fonts on different platform 11:43:38 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:56 <|amethyst> kilobyte: looks like no one on CDO is using anything but the ISO codes (and fake languages) 11:45:00 I indend to use the system's locale (or the one sent by ssh), but that's probably premature 11:45:06 -!- Guest56507 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:45:42 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:09 <|amethyst> we'll also at some point need to split toupper/tolower into ASCII and locale versions 11:47:03 <|amethyst> can't use just ASCII because then Turkish "i" will be improperly capitalised; but can't use just the locale because of things like option names 11:47:07 kilobyte: to determine a default language, you mean? 11:47:12 -!- AlphaQ has quit [Client Quit] 11:48:36 <|amethyst> also, what if someone's locale is e.g. ja_JP.eucjp or en_US.iso885915 ? 11:51:02 <|amethyst> (and should we be canonicalising?) 11:51:17 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:52:17 -!- Palyth has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:52:37 <|amethyst> (CSZO language = states: 3x en (all three are me), 2x ko (same uer), 1x pl (kilobyte), 4x dwarven (3 different users), 1x jagerkin 11:52:43 <|amethyst> s/states/stats/ 11:52:47 <|amethyst> ) 11:52:56 <|amethyst> s/uer/user/ 11:54:32 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:52 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 11:56:53 |amethyst: what's the problem with toupper? I can't think of any case we'd want to leave ä as Ä. 11:57:38 -!- VolteccerJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:57:40 even if no option value/etc would match Ä, there's no regression, and error messages will look better 11:57:41 <|amethyst> kilobyte: what if we're capitalising a message that starts with ä ? 11:57:52 then we want Ä, duh 11:58:07 <|amethyst> what if we're capitalising a message that starts with i ? 11:58:17 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 11:58:19 <|amethyst> In Turkish that should be capitalised as Ä° 11:58:26 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:58:48 I doubt any system supports that, lemme check 11:58:50 <|amethyst> but if we do that universally, option values won't match 11:58:51 |amethyst: instead couldn't we just spread Americanism to distant shores and then forget about this pesky 'internationalization' forever? 12:01:04 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 12:01:14 but crawl is australian english 12:02:07 elliott: In Linley's defence, it's all he knew ;) 12:02:40 <|amethyst> kilobyte: hm, glibc or at least GNU's tr seems to handle it wrong 12:02:50 LC_ALL=tr_TR.UTF-8 perl -e 'print "\Uabcdefghijklm\n"' 12:02:52 <|amethyst> but not in the ASCII way 12:03:31 <|amethyst> kilobyte: you need -Mlocale 12:03:33 tr says I (ie, ASCII) 12:03:42 <|amethyst> I get: 12:03:46 <|amethyst> LC_ALL=tr_TR.UTF-8 perl -e 'use locale; print "\Uabcdefghijklm\n"' 12:03:50 <|amethyst> ABCDEFGHiJKLM 12:03:53 <|amethyst> which is just wrong 12:03:59 <|amethyst> :( 12:04:08 hrm 12:04:29 ie, there _might_ be systems that capitalize in weird ways 12:04:38 <|amethyst> likewise with LANG=tr_TR.UTF-8 tr '[:lower:]' '[:upper:]' << actually, this particular case doesn't apply as we always lowercase when matching :p 12:05:15 <|amethyst> well, I should -> Ä± but actually -> I on my system 12:05:28 there may be some case in some obscure language, though 12:05:56 <|amethyst> Dutch also has the ij -> IJ thing when titlecasing 12:06:07 at least, dutch heathen "ij" is not a danger as it can't be represented by C locale functions :p 12:06:08 <|amethyst> but that's only important for message output, not comparison 12:06:11 right 12:06:11 <|amethyst> :) 12:06:37 <|amethyst> (can we rename the wizard to Ä°skenderun btw? :) 12:07:08 <|amethyst> (not serious, though maybe in a potential Turkish translation) 12:08:18 not sure, the semi-official (at least wiki) lore is that, since the wizard was a living being rather than a city/region, and the only living (no more...) creature by that name was a famous Turkish Van cat who lived in Britain 12:08:31 <|amethyst> true 12:08:43 <|amethyst> anyway, I should be going for a bit... a 90% solution is probably fine, particularly when libc can't get it right anyway 12:08:47 the learndb has that lore also 12:09:03 clearly iskenderun was a FeWz 12:09:44 I'm pondering finally releasing 0.11, shunting all possible improvements to 0.11.1 12:10:04 <|amethyst> ++ 12:10:10 * kilobyte reviewed the manual, it seems ok, but I happen to have high fever right now so I'm not quite reliable... 12:10:16 <|amethyst> well, a changelog update would be nice 12:10:38 <|amethyst> but I see no reason not to release 12:11:01 <|amethyst> galehar agreed 12:11:02 it's up to date as of the branching, and there were no real new features, except possibly the config file 12:11:19 <|amethyst> And I updated options_guide.txt 12:11:20 not sure what needs to be cherry-picked for webtiles 12:11:43 Dear Crawl: Plz don't murder me with entry vaults. 12:11:48 <|amethyst> We haven't in general been cherry-picking the webtiles server stuff 12:12:12 I don't know what should be cherry-picked and what should not 12:12:27 <|amethyst> under the assumption that, even if someone plans on running only 0.11 on their webtiles server, they'd probably still want the trunk server 12:12:44 * kilobyte casts Summon Edlothiol. 12:13:58 <|amethyst> Well, actually, I guess edlothiol has cherry-picked a few server things 12:15:20 <|amethyst> anyway, I should be going... later 12:15:24 bie! 12:18:04 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:18:42 -!- Neula has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:18:50 yeah, I don't think there's any important webtiles-related stuff to cherry-pick, but I'll check 12:19:07 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:25:39 cherry-picked one commit 12:26:14 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.11 * rf77c1f8d697f 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py: Webtiles: Fix another source of ghost games. 12:26:40 that should be it 12:27:40 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 12:30:06 03chris.oelmueller 07stone_soup-0.11 * rb091e0e299b7 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Fix language name typo 12:30:06 03chris.oelmueller 07stone_soup-0.11 * re3dedfbc92e0 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Add another English alias for LANG_LV 12:30:07 03|amethyst 07stone_soup-0.11 * rcb14ebd63c6f 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Allow "lang = latvie??u" and two 7-bit versions. 12:30:07 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * r3362f6e325d0 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Mention config file changes in the changelog. 12:30:08 could anyone improve le butcherede english in my latest commit? 12:30:22 Abyss monster idea: Wandering Mushroom + Giant Spore + Tormentor :) 12:31:33 Tries to stay out of view, explodes when you get near it tormenting you 12:31:34 bh: ie, explodes tormenting you if you come close, but won't ever walk in on its own? 12:31:59 kilobyte: I can hear the players wimpering now 12:32:21 ie, harmless on its own but direction denial can hurt in some cases 12:32:55 and you do not want to lose that much hp in the Abyss as you can't easily rest it off 12:33:21 does that mean you like it? 12:34:14 would it be appropriate to use a death curse style mechanic rather than an explosion? Not that stuff in the abyss should be tormentable 12:36:00 -!- Sali has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:37:01 -!- scummos^ is now known as scummos 12:38:03 no one would ever kill it then 12:38:09 since you can just walk around 12:39:04 I mean, assuming a giant sporeish explosion range, it'd be a monster who says "you can not pass this way, or pay the price" 12:43:40 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:45 -!- jvj24601 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:44:19 kilobyte: the "don't need to update your config" bit seems ambiguous (it makes me think there's some UI to edit your config or something, so you don't have to edit it "by hand")... I'd write something like: * Configuration file overhaul: you must use += (rather than =) to append to list options; after that, your configuration will automatically be updated for new versions. 12:44:23 or something like that 12:44:47 it is sort of hard to express that you have to fix your config now but if you do it it will make defaults apply in the future except when you override them in one line :P 12:45:54 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:46:08 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 12:47:29 the main point is, you should delete all lines you did not add yourself 12:49:30 perhaps the game should automatically blank ~/.crawlrc if it is default? 12:49:37 default of an earlier version, that is 12:49:52 then only people who modify their rcs would have to worry about it 12:49:53 I guess it is a bit late for 0.11 though 12:51:24 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:55:14 -!- jvj24601_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:56:41 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:00:46 -!- nooodl has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:01:14 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:04 -!- Guest56507 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:13:18 -!- frogbotherer has joined ##crawl-dev 13:16:32 -!- Neula` has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:17:58 -!- wasd22 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:18:44 -!- Hisar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:18:59 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:46 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:34:27 -!- keszocze has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:35:08 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:18 -!- raskol has quit [Quit: auf wiedersehen] 13:38:48 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:52 -!- Nerem has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:46:20 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 13:46:40 -!- notrightnow has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:54:57 -!- Jatoskep has joined ##crawl-dev 13:57:31 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:57:34 -!- MPR has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:00:08 -!- Camicio1000 has quit [] 14:03:07 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:06:39 -!- Isabel has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:07:35 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:07:51 -!- Achlys has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:07:58 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:08:29 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:10 -!- Pang has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:16:01 -!- Crayth has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:16:33 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:17:21 -!- afkanim is now known as ophanim 14:17:30 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:19:34 Bad Idea: anti-berserk. Slow plus a reduction in max hp 14:20:33 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:22:22 -!- xnavy is now known as Guest68895 14:22:22 -!- Guest68895 has quit [Killed (hubbard.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:22:22 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 14:22:53 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:56 bh: me likes 14:23:42 -!- xnavy is now known as Guest11121 14:23:43 -!- Guest11121 has quit [Killed (moorcock.freenode.net (Nickname regained by services))] 14:23:43 -!- xnavy_ is now known as xnavy 14:28:33 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:29:13 ??death[2] 14:29:13 death[2/2]: <@dpeg> Dying is awesome. Everytime a player dies, the devteam celebrates. 14:29:24 -!- randart has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:32:25 kilobyte: what to call it? Lethargy? 14:32:56 -!- dg_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:33:40 -!- scummos^ has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 14:38:19 -!- zimvp has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:40:25 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:41:43 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:43 FR: procrastination 14:45:07 "Meh, i'll kill the monster on the next turn." 14:47:02 bhaak: I'll implement that... 14:47:05 tomorrow. 14:48:06 ghallberg: don't bother, it's on my todo 14:48:12 has been for months... 14:49:16 If I get a 'yay' vote in addition to Kilo, I can code up Lethargy (or Malaise, or whatever else you'd call it) 14:50:22 bh: does it also prevent melee attack and butchering? 14:50:37 galehar: no. I'm thinking anti-berserk 14:51:00 that was the joke, yes :P 14:51:59 (melee and butchery are all you can do while berserk, i assume it was a joke at least :P) 14:52:34 MarvinPA: yeah it was :) 14:52:48 you can also open and close doors 14:53:08 it should prevent melee attack and butchery and using doors imo 14:53:12 and also reduce str 14:53:28 you can pray too 14:53:31 i don't really see what it'd do that slow doesn't already 14:53:35 yes, it prevents prayer also 14:53:51 MarvinPA: well, reduce damage 14:54:14 you can eat while berserk too right? IMO give anti-berserk to hungry ghosts 14:54:39 anti might? -1d10 damage? 14:55:06 !rng lethargy malaise distress melancholy weakness angst 14:55:07 The RNG chooses: angst. 14:55:17 The RNG has spoken. 14:55:44 galehar: yes 14:57:04 if it's just meant to be some kind of anti-melee hex it probably doesn't need slow as part of the effect 14:57:19 oh duh. We don't need a new effect. Just make exhaustion suck harder 14:57:27 that sounds bad 14:57:37 berserk is already balanced enough wrt the bad effects when it ends 14:57:44 exh is just a timeout 14:58:20 and yeah what elliott said 14:59:40 anti-might seems like a decently interesting hex, for monsters at least 14:59:57 or a randart property 15:00:08 that's just negative Acc/Dam 15:00:33 elliott: not as a permanent effect. Like berserkitis 15:00:44 "The giant tick bites you! You have lyme disease!" :( 15:07:07 -!- Silurio_ is now known as Silurio 15:07:59 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 15:09:49 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.11 * rddcda343dcdd 10/crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.reST: Manual updates from the wiki. 15:14:19 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:18:05 * galehar feels a release is imminent 15:20:47 -!- rkd2 has quit [] 15:26:04 -!- Benhimself has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:27:35 -!- TGWi is now known as Ninekutas 15:30:40 -!- Ninekutas is now known as TGWi 15:30:51 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:30:56 -!- Fhqwhgads_ is now known as Fhqwhgads 15:34:53 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:35:55 I'd add a message that it's best to copy over, blank the config file or remove all stuff you didn't add yourself 15:36:20 good idea 15:36:42 got some really high fever, though, and can't even type without correcting every word, much less think 15:36:54 could I ask one of you? 15:38:02 where to put the message? 15:38:09 in the error for using = instead of += 15:38:14 also add a force more to that message so people don't ignore it maybe? 15:38:51 elliott: it's already red and wordy, I don't think a more is needed on top of that 15:39:51 well, it's not that people don't notice it, but I bet a lot of people will just not care about it unless it annoys them by forcing them to page through a more :p 15:39:58 I guess things breaking in 0.13 will help there though 15:44:51 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:45:14 -!- herself has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:46:08 0.12 will break the stubborn config 15:47:45 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 15:51:09 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 15:51:23 * galehar invokes the power of Elyvlion to cast purification on kilobyte 15:54:02 -!- Tenkutas has quit [] 15:54:51 config file changes: it's recommended that you don't copy over your old config file. Instead, use a blank one and only copy the lines you have added yourself. 15:54:58 assuming this is for the changelog 15:56:40 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:56:49 I doubt most players who don't modify their rc read the changelog... possibly there should be some sort of indication of what to do in the in-game message so people don't have to go through the 0.10 default rc and add += everywhere? 15:58:15 are the servers using the same config file over different versions? 15:58:28 I'm coding up malaise -- temporary reduction in max hp and a reduction in melee damage. How's that? 15:59:14 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:36 galehar: no 16:01:02 |amethyst has already migrated all users of default configuration to use the new defaults I think 16:01:08 so nobody using default rc will get any warnings on CSZO 16:02:32 elliott: so, there's no problem with players who don't modify their rc. Obviously, they won't bother copying an older they haven't customized. 16:03:26 well, aren't local players who upgrade their game going to keep their current rc? I don't play local so I don't know how the files are laid out; is there a separate rc directory for every version? 16:04:06 depend on how you install it I guess 16:04:49 if you overwrite an older version, it might get ugly, but the setting file will be overwritten too anyway 16:10:20 ??red wasp 16:10:21 red wasp[1/1]: Hits like a freight train, and if you don't have PR paralyzes. One of the few ways left to die in one move, and certainly easier than getting double bolted by an ancient lich or mauled by a hydra. 16:12:54 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:13:09 -!- Fhqwhgads_ is now known as Fhqwhgads 16:14:28 -!- stenno has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 16:14:53 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 16:18:06 -!- Achlys has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:21:42 bh: for what monster is it? 16:22:59 galehar: no idea :) 16:23:08 ??vampire mosquito 16:23:09 vampire mosquito[1/4]: undead, evil, fly 16:23:19 ??yellow fly 16:23:19 I don't have a page labeled yellow_fly in my learndb. 16:23:24 Isn't there a fly that inflicts slow? 16:23:47 I think so 16:23:53 -!- MakMorn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:24:22 -!- Jaxy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:25:51 I could graft it on to Giant Blowfly 16:27:11 what's a giant blowfly 16:27:34 oh. It got removed. 16:27:50 yep :P 16:28:11 For overlapping with mosquitoes? 16:28:25 also it's the wasps that slow 16:28:25 doesn't one of the wasps get slow 16:28:26 yeah 16:28:32 which one? 16:28:37 if paralyse doesn't trigger they slow instead 16:28:39 both 16:28:47 yeesh. 16:28:50 red is just more likely to paralyse 16:29:19 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:46 MarvinPA: any objection to trying it out on wasps as an alternative to slow? 16:32:13 slow is pretty good on them, melee damage reduction would probably make them a lot less dangerous 16:32:21 -!- rwbarton has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:41:25 If a vampire gets sick and then becomes bloodless, what happens to the sickness? 16:53:20 -!- frogbotherer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:56:58 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:08:45 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:50 M 17:08:56 !messages 17:08:57 No messages for Cryp71c. 17:09:04 Lol...wenzell? 17:09:43 bh: it stays but doesn't decrease i think? 17:09:45 same with poison 17:12:29 -!- Kellhus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:17:12 -!- hayenne has quit [Quit: There is no dark side of the moon really. As a matter of fact it's all dark. The only thing that makes it look light is the sun.] 17:20:36 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Bye] 17:27:44 03kilobyte * r07b43754a526 10/crawl-ref/source/artefact.cc: Don't crash when > 8 octorings are generated in --test unrand. 17:30:43 -!- Pthing has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:33:25 -!- ferretballs has quit [Client Quit] 17:36:18 What if I made malaise into an aura instead of a duration effect? 17:37:00 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:27 does anyone have an e-mail address for Haran? 17:38:11 -!- MPR has quit [Changing host] 17:39:19 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:30 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:40:03 bh: that sounds like something fitting one of due's abyssal monsters 17:40:09 03galehar * r0824a09233b6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Only do handle_phase_attempted() once when cleaving. 17:40:28 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:43:12 no, no, that name is clearly demonic 17:43:26 on line 1529 of enum.h -- // Update enchantment names in monster.cc when adding or removing -- I can't find a corresponding list in monster.cc 17:43:43 i bet there isn't one 17:43:50 HangedMan: whatever, I can change the name. 17:44:25 heh 17:46:14 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:47:14 it probably moved somewhere else 17:47:32 enchant_names in mon-ench.cc? 17:49:45 -!- idiolect has quit [Quit: idiolect] 17:52:24 when on earth does quad_damage occur? 17:54:20 in sprint 17:54:20 buy it from arenasprint shop or lrd/shatter it out in sprint III 17:54:27 and in crawl if you acquire misc 17:54:33 and get quite lucky 17:54:44 ChrisOelmueller: so lucky you are playing an old trunk version 17:54:54 well :o 17:55:45 -!- yahhmm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:53 fr bring back quad damage acquirement? 17:56:39 i'd rather have misc acquirement do something useful personally 17:56:52 FR: fix quad damage flavour to actually make some sort of sense inside crawl 17:58:12 crawl makes sense? 17:59:11 HangedMan is sensing a weak excuse, and he's right :o 17:59:32 Isn't crawl vim without 'undo'? 18:02:35 elliptic: it makes as much sense as pizza 18:02:38 and uh 18:02:40 glaive of prune 18:02:42 killer klowns 18:02:43 yes 18:02:44 death cobs 18:02:51 make quad damages only spawn in zot 18:03:01 elliott: *after* you have the orb 18:03:09 that'd be useful for orb run :p 18:03:22 there are also minor issues like quad damage not being at all balanced for regular crawl 18:03:43 multiply damage taken by 4 too, problem solved 18:04:12 and let monsters hit you after they're dead 18:06:00 elliptic: is it even balanced for sprint 18:06:07 i actually quite like HangedMan's idea 18:06:19 make it DUO DAMAGE and it doubles all damage including the kind enemies do 18:06:31 (does quad damage applies to spells too?) 18:06:49 -!- lorenz371 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:24 yes 18:08:44 why isn't set_feature_name working in http://pastie.org/pastes/4788115/text ? 18:09:13 does quad damage apply to torment 18:09:48 yes 18:09:53 really 18:10:03 so it makes torment kill everything with rN0? 18:10:18 yep 18:10:24 really. 18:10:28 secret tech?? 18:10:38 go tso and carry around a tormentor 18:11:34 where's ontoclasmnei when I need him? I'm going to roll up a Spore for the abyss. As mentioned earlier, behaves like a wandering mushroom and then suicides into you for torment 18:12:19 -!- Pepe[netbook] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:12:48 "tormented soul"? is that too cheesy 18:13:57 death spore 18:14:22 Lost Spore. Forgotten Spore. Forsaken Spore 18:14:36 i like tormented soul more than foo spore for all foo, i think :P 18:14:37 a spore that doesn't move while you are in sight until you step next to it sounds really strange 18:14:41 yes 18:15:31 could give it a special ability like that of ball lightnings 18:15:56 Eurydician Spectre :) 18:16:17 tormented soul spore 18:16:35 just having it act like a spore that torments when it dies/hits you might be enough? could still fulfil the area denial thing in that you'd have to keep running away from it, couldn't really turn back towards it 18:16:44 bh: btw i think it should explode with probably a larger radius 18:16:53 or it'll only matter if it's in a really really cramped area 18:17:01 as in it should explode when you get within N steps of it 18:17:12 and by N steps I guess I mean an awful approximated circle of radius N :( 18:17:14 elliott: larger than giant spore? Or large than single target? 18:17:21 well giant spores aren't comparable since they don't move 18:17:25 yes, one larger than a spore explosion would be good 18:17:25 oh i was thinking it just does los torment, no explosions required 18:17:27 i mean it should explode before you step right next to it 18:17:40 or else move like MarvinPA said 18:17:42 explosion-delivered torment sounds weird 18:17:45 (probably make it speed 10 if it moves?) 18:18:07 yeah 18:18:07 03galehar * rbac0995c2fd6 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Properly handle prompts and fumbling with ctrl+dir cleaving attacks. 18:18:08 03galehar * r9e52e41456b5 10/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc: Fix dangling prompt in stop_attack_prompt. 18:19:07 it would be really unfortunate if your summons went after it! 18:20:06 well you can tell them not to :P 18:20:50 not if they're berserk 18:20:58 bia nerf 18:21:43 elliott: you'd need to deal damage yourself 18:22:03 hm? 18:22:11 and 35% hp times four is still guaranteed to be fatal 18:25:09 re quad damage tormentor kiting presumably 18:25:18 also huh, monsters don't actually get rN torment reduction 18:27:24 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:28:01 can fix that and nerf mennastormenting i guess 18:31:10 -!- G-Flex has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:33:05 probably quad torment shouldn't instagib things even if it's only possible in sprint, also, though 18:43:41 does quad damage torment do 50% * 50% * 50% * 50% = 6.25% damage? 18:44:27 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:44:31 -!- Robot2600 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:44:32 hoho 18:45:20 Wensley: it takes 50% of HP and then quadruples that 18:45:27 "a good mechanism " 18:45:34 not for long it doesn't 18:45:37 elliott: yes, I figured, and was preemptively amused 18:46:03 BUT! I thought this was noticed and fixed a long time ago 18:46:07 03MarvinPA * r6bb16ee92792 10/crawl-ref/source/effects.cc: Fix monster torment damage not being reduced by rN 18:46:08 more secret tech ruined in advance (although i remember playing around with this ages ago) 18:46:08 03MarvinPA * r07e2a902cbf5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc monster.cc): Don't multiply torment/agony damage with quad damage 18:46:15 Wensley: nobody ever "fixes" "bugs" 18:46:25 you just exploit them and then talk about that on IRC, that is the crawl way :P 18:46:34 (the sprint way??) 18:47:36 if it goes unnoticed for a long while even though there are horribly bad issues with it it's clearly the zotdef way 18:48:14 the nethack way is to have nobody know which things are the bugs and which are the features 18:51:51 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:53:20 -!- Wheep has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:15 -!- camicio has quit [] 19:02:29 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:53 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:04:07 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:04:17 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:07:17 -!- ganon- has quit [] 19:16:54 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 19:29:21 adding a new aura seems to involve a lot of grunt work 19:29:35 ...another? 19:29:52 does torment spore really need an aura or is this something else 19:30:00 HangedMan: malaise as an aura instead of a duration effect 19:30:16 tormenty spore should just be torment death curse + fungus AI 19:30:17 a lot of Grunt work 19:30:18 plehhhhh 19:30:35 ??servitor 19:30:35 servitor[1/1]: : profane butler 19:30:36 suppression and umbra already don't overlap well with the other auras 19:30:55 moth of holy umbric silent suppression 19:31:24 I'll do the tormenty monster first because it seems more likely to actually get in 19:31:59 there's always los effects 19:32:21 bh: maybe talk to wensley about it, he has a list of moth ideas 19:32:24 weaknessthing seems fine as a duration really, dunno if aura is necessary 19:32:26 ??new moths 19:32:26 doesn't umbra use LOS while Silence doesn't? 19:32:26 I don't have a page labeled new_moths in my learndb. 19:32:32 Wensley: ping 19:32:33 ??moth ideas 19:32:33 I don't have a page labeled moth_ideas in my learndb. 19:32:35 hm 19:32:36 umbra is an aura 19:32:36 ??moths 19:32:37 I don't have a page labeled moths in my learndb. 19:32:50 umbra and halos don't pierce through walls, suppression and silence do 19:32:52 there are like 20 moth names on the list, with no other text 19:32:57 ??todo moths 19:32:58 todo moths[1/1]: carousel, vuln, miscast, recall, golubria, gypsy, amnesia, night terror, sanctuary; urgency 19:33:01 bh: pong 19:33:20 moth of sanctuary, hehehe 19:33:20 -!- typhen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:33:21 wtf do those do..? 19:33:26 ??sanctuary 19:33:26 sanctuary[1/1]: Creates a divine refuge (5 square radius; full size for inv/2 turns, then gradually shrinks over next 7 until gone). Enemies within range retreat and can't attack, blood and harmful clouds are erased, a holy word is recited, your pets rush to your side, and all traps are revealed. The sanctuary ends (and Zin gets mad) if you attack. Looks AWESOME. 19:33:29 bh: I've forgotten half of them 19:33:38 bh: but carousel is next on the list after suppression 19:33:41 carousel is tornado but without the wind damage, golubria was bend space or something 19:33:44 an aura sounds bad because monsters would get weaker too 19:33:54 carousel? does that rotate everyone? 19:33:55 bh: carousel moth is just a moth with perma-tornado, but without the animation or damage 19:33:55 hah 19:33:57 Wensley: please implement moth of sanctuary right now 19:34:17 kite it around to remove blood 19:34:18 its probably hard to make it work for monsters? 19:34:33 i think suppression doesn't even pretend to be consistent but yeah that is a good reason for it to not be an aura too 19:34:34 shhhh, logistics are irrelevant 19:34:51 elliott: on weakening monsters: it's like how melee folks drag silent spectres around to incapacitate liches. casters now have a friend. 19:35:11 monqy: I cleared out Elf back when Spectres could use stairs 19:35:15 monqy: do moths follow across floors 19:35:17 double-edgedness is everywhere in crawl, what's wrong with double-edged monsters 19:35:18 i know spectres don't! 19:35:24 fr: move moths to p??? 19:35:27 suppression yes, moth and ghost no 19:35:27 move butterflies to p 19:35:29 elliott: I think I'm to blame for that ;) 19:35:34 wrath and ghost 19:35:37 HangedMan: ew 19:35:43 fr: moths consistently move across stairs? 19:35:45 HangedMan: monster-dragging interface is really bad 19:35:57 not the dragging, just the placing 19:35:58 HangedMan: supmoths do not follow across stairs 19:36:08 yes that is what I said 19:36:25 uh no 19:36:28 you said the opposite of that 19:36:28 imo: silent spectres cant move?? and also liches cant move. no more dragging. 19:36:38 monqy: monsters can't move 19:36:38 player can't move 19:36:43 FR: tree race 19:36:46 elliott: blink robin 19:36:47 ...argh, blah, mispoke 19:36:49 learn add bad ideas 19:37:00 Wensley: chair race 19:37:03 everything old is new again 19:37:09 immobiles are boring because they can't keep the player around to actually be any threat 19:37:31 -!- Sab0t has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:37:32 ??ironrobin 19:37:32 ironman[1/6]: In the Ironman challenge you must take downstairs as soon as possible until you reach D:27, and then leave the dungeon alive. 19:37:35 every monster is roxanne with an aura 19:37:53 !add blinkrobin In the Blinkrobin challenge you may only move via blink and teleport. 19:38:06 blinkrobin is already an entry 19:38:11 ??blinkrobin 19:38:11 blinkrobin[1/2]: blinkrobin: You cannot move. 19:38:16 whoa.... 19:38:19 ??blinkrobin[2] 19:38:20 blinkrobin[2/2]: Press and hold 'o'. When lvl 2, learn blink and assign it to b. Press and hold 'o'. More macros are coming. 19:38:53 HangedMan: black hole monster 19:39:00 immobile but it pulls you towards it all the time 19:39:07 and it's really hard to move away from it 19:39:10 elliott: you mean a siren? 19:39:14 you mean roxanne 19:39:16