00:00:26 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 00:03:29 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-120-g0ce5a57 (33) 00:04:51 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11-b1-120-g0ce5a57 00:06:06 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-484-g425658a (34) 00:12:55 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:14:22 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:19:53 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-120-g0ce5a57 00:22:17 -!- Lulero has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:12 Hi! Just added a proposal for the summoning school on wiki (https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:magic:schools:feedback). I'd like some early feedbacks, if it's bad I'll move it to the graveyard without further discussions. Thank you! 00:32:33 -!- yahhmm has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:39:36 -!- Stelpa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:40:30 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 00:42:22 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:43:16 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:20 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:46 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 00:51:45 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:52:14 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 00:54:03 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 00:55:27 -!- zrachosh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:57:09 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:05:41 kilobyte: you around? 01:05:41 bh: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 01:05:44 !messages 01:05:44 (1/4) |amethyst said (3h 38m 51s ago): we only use true variadic argument lists for printf-style functions 01:05:51 !messages 01:05:51 (1/3) |amethyst said (3h 38m 39s ago): and we use the C va_args stuff for those 01:05:54 !messages 01:05:55 (1/2) |amethyst said (3h 38m 8s ago): (oh, also a few Lua things) 01:05:57 !messages 01:05:58 (1/1) |amethyst said (3h 37m 5s ago): (well, a few others, so I guess "only" was wrong; but it's all va_args) 01:06:01 <|amethyst> sorry for the message flood :) 01:07:02 no problem. I was thinking of writing variadic constructors for dungeon procedural generators 01:07:46 so you could write: WorleyLayout(ChaoticLayout(2345), ColumnLayout(2), WorleyLayout(ColumnLayout(2,6), ColumnLayout(1))) 01:08:06 <|amethyst> I don't think you can do that 01:08:23 <|amethyst> since those aren't plain old data 01:08:34 <|amethyst> maybe with pointers 01:08:59 <|amethyst> maybe take a vector instead 01:09:05 -!- TZer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:09:06 <|amethyst> some day we'll be able to rely on C++11 01:10:07 <|amethyst> (I realise that with a vector you can no longer do it in a single expression, which can be a problem in some situations) 01:10:07 I figure for the most part these should be programmatically composed, but I do like nice syntax :) 01:11:19 -!- maha has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:11:46 |amethyst: I'm pretty sure I got smart updating working. Assuming you can write a lower bound on the changepoint of your generator, it should do the right thing 01:13:41 <|amethyst> Seven-Lawyer Cake 01:13:43 <|amethyst> doh 01:13:48 It went from updating ~5k features per turn to 1 or 2 01:14:21 <|amethyst> is the average interval really that long? 01:14:55 I threw out the morph speed code for the time being and just had it take steps of depth 2 01:15:10 I also converted depth to a uint32_t because it becomes slightly easier to reason about 01:16:22 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:20:05 |amethyst: apart from the improved terrain, what else do we need? 01:20:27 <|amethyst> monster overhaul 01:21:31 that's definitely outside of my expertise. Lugo wrath overhaul might be nice 01:21:57 lugo wrath works as intended I think? 01:22:08 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:22:45 elliptic: as part of larger wrath changes 01:22:45 it is harsh enough that if you take lucy to leave abyss, you likely don't want to abandon lucy immediately 01:23:09 yeah, wrath changes in general would be nice... but IMO lucy wrath is actually one of the ones that works best at the moment 01:24:14 I don't understand kilobyte's point on c-r-d. According to the evil wiki, abandoning lucy banishes you 01:25:18 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:25:57 one of her wrath effects is banishment 01:26:23 it used to be the case that abandoning lucy meant instant banishment 01:26:27 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 01:26:39 that was removed when other instant abandonment effects were removed 01:27:38 i remember someone flooding ##crawl with yred abandonment messages 01:27:40 I didn't mean to imply that Lucy should instant banish you, just that banishment should be guaranteed. I was mentioning it in the context of wrath & tension. 01:28:06 it looks like kilobyte just doesn't want it to be guaranteed instant banishment again, which is reasonable 01:28:20 he probably assumed that was what you meant because that is how it used to work 01:28:20 -!- Isabel has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:28:34 agreed. That would be silly. Banishment upon some timeout after your tension drops would be scary :) 01:29:05 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:19 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 01:29:22 <|amethyst> it's a bit weird for abandonment and the ***** ability to do the same thing 01:30:06 Timing is everything 01:30:12 See voluntary berserk vs. berserkeritis 01:30:15 |amethyst: sure, but the * ability lets you *leave* the abyss 01:30:24 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:28 lugonu's old insta-wrath was actually better than the ability in some ways (no mp or hp cost) 01:30:35 Oh, the instant one 01:30:39 only in emergencies, of course 01:30:39 I thought you just meant as a wrath effect 01:31:33 as a wrath effect it is good, yes 01:31:46 What if lugo wrath banishment created simularcums of everyone in LOS and brought them to the abyss with you? :) 01:32:11 unnecessary, it can just happen randomly 01:32:47 Random banishment is already pretty bad if you, say, picked Lugonu mostly to exit the Abyss in the first place 01:32:58 Unless you've gotten quite a bit stronger in the meantime 01:33:35 currently the chance of banishment is actually not that high, so if you are going to win shortly then you might well not get sent back 01:34:05 I've had games where I converted lugonu -> jiyva for the last rune and then won without being banished 01:34:49 You know... I'm wondering now if I have EVER converted to Lugonu as an Abyss escape 01:34:58 I do very little god-switching at all 01:35:22 -!- bh has quit [Quit: sleep!] 01:35:28 <|amethyst> bend space on your inventory :) 01:35:35 <|amethyst> that's more Xommy I guess 01:36:07 if wrath overhaul makes wrath from non-lugonu gods less lethal early on, I'd expect more lugo conversions 01:36:32 currently it doesn't really make that much sense with a lot of gods if you have any decent chance of escaping normally 01:36:45 Yeah 01:36:55 Oka wrath, for example, is probably more scary than the Abyss itself is 01:37:23 Well, more than surviving it long enough to escape, at any rate 01:39:03 -!- Mentos has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:44:22 https://github.com/dtsund/crawl-light/commit/12779fd1d7752006a1f9acf7555b634b57dd6501 01:44:23 wheeee 01:46:52 anti-silence 01:47:16 'twas the simplest way I could think to implement that. 01:48:33 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:56 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:49:57 Incidentally, I suspect screaming statues may be beyond my frankentiling capabilities, so I'll probably need to see if I can con^H^H^H persuade a Stone Soup tilemaker to help me on this one... 01:51:42 -!- Dudicle has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:54:18 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:54:41 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 01:55:22 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:55:47 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:01 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 01:56:23 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:39 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 01:57:57 -!- indspenceable has quit [Client Quit] 01:59:35 -!- Flargenpoo has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:02:20 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:24 dtsund: I believe DCSS has far more statue tiles than crawl light does at this point. you might be able to find something you like there 02:07:17 -!- Predelnik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:07:43 there's the ones in dngn/statues, a couple in dngn/vaults, some in mon/statues, and more in mon/vaults 02:08:31 dtsund: if you can't find one you like i'll make one 02:08:48 statue_wraith looks good. 02:09:25 Kind of fits the "damned soul trapped and tormented" flavor I've got going on them 02:10:29 I guess you haven't imported many of the new tiles yet, have you? Almost every extended endgame branch has a new set of tiles since 0.9 (or maybe 0.10, I forget) 02:10:49 I've imported some, but not some others. 02:10:58 i can recolor it at least; i made most of the vault statues just colored versions of granite ones 02:11:08 there's a purple wraith for instance 02:11:24 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:11:27 ontoclasm: That won't be necessary; I can recolor competently, just not make completely new stuff. 02:11:34 xD 02:11:56 Most of the new tiles I've need to make are recolors of existing tiles. 02:12:00 *needed 02:12:20 Of course, if you want to make a boulder bee tile, that would be appreciated for when I add those.. 02:12:34 that reminds me, maybe geh could use some of its own tiles... it's not bad right now (it uses red zot walls, but those aren't found anywhere else) 02:12:44 still, its the only hell without its own tiles at the moment 02:12:47 They're found in Pan, IIRC 02:12:59 pan has its own wall tiles now 02:13:11 I think cerebov's level might use the red zot walls though, I forget 02:13:27 cerebov's has those swiss-cheese looking walls i think 02:13:35 Oh, okay, guess I haven't gotten to those yet. 02:13:43 * dtsund is importing stuff chronologically as he gets to it 02:14:44 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:14:45 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 02:14:46 yeah, cerebov still uses the zot walls. so, his level looks a bit like geh (he gets a different floor tile, but its the same colour) 02:26:39 -!- purge has quit [Quit: .] 02:39:51 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:42:01 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:43:54 -!- squimmy has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:46:40 -!- JackRogers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:37 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:53:29 -!- ZRN has quit [] 03:01:39 -!- crate has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:06:20 ugh, you know your attack delay computations are too complicated when random_var weights overflow 03:07:40 (I am trying to smooth armour and shield skill for melee, since they are pretty unsmoothed right now) 03:10:05 For my part, I think I'll (in the distant future) move to a system where (almost) all melee attacks take the same 10 aut, and underskill penalties will take some other form 03:11:54 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:15:11 -!- TZer0 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:41 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:31:38 -!- indspenceable has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:33:57 -!- DainHome has quit [Changing host] 03:38:46 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:55 -!- evilmike has quit [] 03:51:43 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 03:55:46 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:56:15 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:20:47 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:26:54 -!- rossi has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8] 04:36:31 -!- Kalten has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:38:59 -!- bmfx has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:47:57 -!- LoremIpsum has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47:57 -!- fernandotakai_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:47:57 -!- blmarket has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:48:09 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:50:32 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 04:53:45 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 05:00:03 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-487-g65aa131 05:04:19 -!- casmith789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:05:50 -!- Mumcon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:10:47 -!- bee has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:14:44 -!- blmarket has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:18 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:31 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:34:51 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 05:39:56 -!- fernandotakai_ is now known as fernandotakai 05:44:05 -!- smeea_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:56:24 -!- Gastrox has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:03:20 screaming statues? <3 <3 <3 06:03:51 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:10 -!- hangedman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:05:52 |amethyst: btw, variadic arguments are used for that random weighted choice function too, which I wouldn't call printf-like 06:07:05 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:07:26 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 06:10:00 -!- Koolguydude has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 06:12:41 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes is now known as HangedMan 06:22:49 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 06:32:34 -!- ctair has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:38:57 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:55 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:43:00 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:16 Ant tile tweaks, new drake tiles, and a couple other tweaks (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5903) by roctavian 08:48:16 Several vaults (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6180) by Lightli 08:48:16 spurious "Okay, then." when fumbling reaching (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6210) by KiloByte 08:48:16 Deep Dwarves (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6222) by Denzi 08:48:16 ch_force_autopickup failed (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5774) by Sjourn 08:48:16 Main Dungeon extra tiles. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6106) by white_noise 08:48:16 Zot defence dungeon level resets but leaves PC intact (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6223) by Tsuno 08:48:16 Player doll weapon tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6214) by dd 08:48:16 Vehumet: spell gifting instead of book gifting (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4504) by MarvinPA 08:48:16 Artifact polearms. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6213) by white_noise 08:48:16 Orb of Zot (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6217) by white_noise 08:48:16 Trapdoor spiders get stuck. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6215) by elliptic 08:48:16 Bardiches (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6202) by dd 08:48:16 Add visual indication of lag to WebTiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6212) by Medar 08:48:16 No more unknown command message. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6208) by elliptic 08:48:16 Xom assert failure (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6211) by Medar 08:48:16 Interface inconsistency: the a* screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6209) by Cab 08:48:16 Quokka, (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6164) by white_noise 08:48:16 Charmed Centaur shot me with Wand of Draining (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3447) by XuaXua 08:48:16 Entry vaults for sewer, ossuary, pan, abyss, snake (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6206) by Guppyfry 08:48:16 cloud_info doesn't expire (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6201) by neil 08:48:16 Jiyva's off-level item eating causes labyrinths to be announced extra times. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6200) by elliptic 08:48:16 Melee Weapon Styles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5902) by LexAckson 08:48:16 serial_hangedman_research fixes and tweaks (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6199) by Claws 08:48:16 Stone and metal walls. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6081) by white_noise 08:48:16 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:16 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 08:48:16 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:16 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is down for major renovations, back by early September, but try CSZO instead! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 08:51:31 Deep Dwarves (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6222) by Denzi 08:51:31 Zot defence dungeon level resets but leaves PC intact (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6223) by Tsuno 08:51:31 Orb of Zot (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6217) by white_noise 08:51:31 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 08:51:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is down for major renovations, back by early September, but try CSZO instead! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 08:52:37 -!- wjchen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:53:39 <|amethyst> BTW, I can't do it, but if someone has Mantis admin capabilities, #6223 needs to be moved to project DCSS (it's in project Mantis right now) 09:09:25 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-488-g468f6c3 (34) 09:12:51 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 09:19:12 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 09:28:43 -!- DainHome has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 09:31:28 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:42 -!- Vizerr has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41:22 -!- pelotron has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 09:46:17 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 09:55:21 -!- vev has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:02:30 -!- kwel01 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:05:17 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:07:48 |amethyst: I have plenty of mantis rights but I can't either :( 10:12:40 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 10:17:14 -!- Medra is now known as Medar 10:31:09 Your configuration uses = to append to a list option. This syntax will override 10:31:11 |amethyst: is this meant to be cut off? 10:31:32 elliott: didnt cut off for me? 10:31:35 also this message comes up even though I have a stock rc 10:31:42 so everyone using the default rc is going to have to change it :P 10:32:05 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:37:11 |amethyst: um, settings/init.txt also uses = to append, or at least I still get the warning when pasting it in from newest trunk 10:37:30 -!- Kellhus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:41:18 -!- Mandevil has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:43:06 the cut-off thing is the specific 10:43:08 Warning: Crawl encountered errors during startup: 10:43:11 screen 10:43:21 seems like not everybody is getting that? simmarine isn't even though it complains after it starts up 10:43:57 yes, i see actual crawl when it spits the error out at me 10:44:01 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:12 elliott sees a page before he gets into the game itself 10:44:38 !seen bh 10:44:39 I last saw bh at Fri Sep 14 06:35:22 2012 UTC (9h 9m 16s ago) quitting with message Quit: sleep!. 10:46:46 |amethyst: it also odesn't complain about note_messages, which is weird 10:47:54 hmm, and it's complaining about autopickup_exceptions, menu_colour and message_colour, too, even though I don't have any of those set... (just using the default rc and grepping shows nothing) 10:49:24 -!- ctair has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 11:04:04 Donald and his shield (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6224) by dd 11:08:33 (also, it always complains about line -1) 11:10:43 -!- ekix_ is now known as ekix 11:13:05 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:04 -!- User82 has quit [Quit: User82] 11:22:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:23:20 -!- Zwobot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:26:20 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 11:27:50 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 11:28:12 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 11:28:15 -!- sacredchao has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:34:15 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:11 -!- OneEyedJack has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:38:53 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:31 -!- VideoGames has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:50:14 -!- slitherrr has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:52:22 -!- Vizer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:53:40 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:55:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:07:32 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:38 <|amethyst> elliott: are you including other files? 12:11:54 <|amethyst> elliott: I can confirm the line number thing 12:14:47 |amethyst: I was using the completely default init.txt 12:14:53 then I changed all the =s it complained about into += 12:14:59 (I updated the init.txt to latest trunk first) 12:15:10 other people seem to be having the same problem with those three options it won't stop complaining about 12:16:26 <|amethyst> hm 12:16:44 <|amethyst> also, I just pushed an update for note_messages, note_monsters, fsim_scale, and fsim_kit 12:17:58 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:19:29 -!- bracc has quit [Quit: bracc] 12:23:02 <|amethyst> Just pushed an update for dat/defaults/*.txt 12:23:23 <|amethyst> no time to look into the truncation problem right now 12:23:43 <|amethyst> the default init.txt still needs to be updated; that will be part of the documentation updates 12:24:22 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:27 <|amethyst> Also, I haven't done anything with runrest_* 12:24:36 <|amethyst> or any of the other options that are implemented in Lua 12:31:34 <|amethyst> (there is currently no way to tell Lua whether there is += or = or -=) 12:31:40 <|amethyst> that can be fixed of course 12:32:04 <|amethyst> I have to go though... file a report on mantis please :) 12:32:06 presumably the lua should just set a default for the option, and read it in as a list? rather than processing each += or -= directive 12:32:20 ok, I'll file a mantis report for the truncation thing 12:32:26 or did you mean another thing 12:32:37 <|amethyst> everything :) 12:32:51 <|amethyst> those options are processed entirely in Lua 12:33:15 <|amethyst> they have to process each += or -= directive; that's just how Lua-implemented options work 12:33:24 fai renough 12:33:27 seems a weird way to do it 12:33:44 hm, I wonder whether the autopickup_exceptions, menu_colour, message_colour warnings have something to do wit the fact that they are added to in separate files? 12:33:45 also, re everything: shouldn't the "can't get rid of three of the complaints" thing be fixed by "Just pushed an update for dat/defaults/*.txt"? or is that not the cause 12:34:04 -!- Gooby is now known as Guest9726 12:34:06 <|amethyst> elliptic: it's because I didn't update dat/defaults/*.txt but I just did 12:34:25 ah, okay 12:34:31 <|amethyst> elliott: yeah, that should be fixed 12:34:37 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:34:41 I can confirm that just fixed those errors for me 12:35:43 -!- Guest9726 has quit [Client Quit] 12:38:42 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:39:58 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:27 In the past, the crawl-ref-discuss mailing-list at SourceForge, the Game Spite forum, and the usenet group rec.games.roguelike.misc also were used for discussion, but they have since fallen out of use. 12:42:44 (from the CDO starting page) Do we want to change the bit about c-r-d? 12:44:12 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:53 well, c-r-d is mostly dev discussion, unlike most of the other discussion areas there 12:45:14 hm, it really does seem to be impossible to start a webtiles game currently in trunk on CSZO 12:45:16 Does anybody understand the strange reply we just got from that weird guy? 12:45:28 maybe it should be updated, that might fix it 12:46:22 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 12:48:08 <|amethyst> hrm 12:48:10 -!- User82 has quit [Client Quit] 12:48:22 <|amethyst> I hadn't realised that would prevent playing... 12:48:39 <|amethyst> I'll change it back to just an mpr 12:51:28 dpeg: I don't think so 12:51:30 dpeg: i don't think it's meant to be a reply 12:51:32 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-491-gbb11d42 (34) 12:51:40 i think he tried to start a new thread but hit the reply button to do so 12:51:44 ok, thanks 12:52:00 dpeg: (changing the bit about c-r-d sounds fine to me though) 12:52:03 -!- ussdefiant__ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:12 will do 12:52:20 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:53:28 <|amethyst> with a new account I get warnings about 12:54:17 <|amethyst> auto_exclude, force_more_message, and note_messages 12:54:20 <|amethyst> maybe the default init 12:54:24 <|amethyst> really have to go now though 12:54:39 later, |amethyst 12:56:34 yeah, looks like the default init needs += in several places 12:57:24 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:02 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:09 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:01:28 -!- erisdiscordia has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 13:01:54 -!- ussdefiant__ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:03:53 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:05:36 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:49 |amethyst: I changed some stuff in init.txt, hopefully mostly correctly... it fixed the warnings at least 13:09:53 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 13:11:17 dpeg: The GameSpite thread falling into disuse is kind of my fault... 13:11:41 ...actually, the URL you have is probably dead, since the forum moved to a different domain. 13:12:07 Oh, no, wait, it redirects now. For a while, it didn't. 13:12:41 dtsund: why and how your fault? 13:13:26 It's a Let's Play thread; the guy running the topic plays the game and posts commentary and screenshots, for the entertainment of everyone else. 13:14:01 The thread was initially run by Boojum, who wound up not having time to keep going (LPs are more work than you'd think), and I took over it 13:14:37 Then I, uh, forked Stone Soup and that kind of distracted me from doing work on the LP myself. 13:15:31 I should probably return to it someday, but I'm not sure if I a) want to keep doing the 0.7 (yes) game in progress, b) start LPing a modern Stone Soup, or c) LP Light. 13:16:42 that's ancient -- the Cromagnon has been seen playing 0.7 13:17:04 dpeg: That thread dates back to when *0.5* was new. 13:17:07 -!- Kaput has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:17:47 You know, it's called Crawl because the first versions were directed at amorphous masses, nothing with this biped nonsense. 13:18:54 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:19:52 in any case, I can just remove the GameSpite link -- should I? 13:20:00 -!- CannibalFerox has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:20:19 You can if you want. 13:20:43 Probably been around a year since the thread was last posted in. 13:22:05 is it interesting for a new player to have a look at that thread? 13:23:16 Probably. The game's being played in tiles mode, and does a good job of explaining why SS has a particularly good tiles version. 13:28:43 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 13:30:06 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:54 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:31:06 -!- aa has quit [Client Quit] 13:37:16 then I leave it in 13:37:29 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:38:58 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:46:54 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 13:48:07 -!- G-Flex has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:52:28 -!- Codrus|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:56:37 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:04:51 -!- Jatoskep has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:14 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:10:31 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:12:23 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:23 -!- walgen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:27:53 -!- Stelpa has quit [Quit: Butts] 14:28:26 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 14:30:28 -!- Stelpa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:19 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 14:34:09 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 14:34:29 -!- dg_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:06 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:20 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:46:33 -!- ZombieChicken has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:46:37 i removed any auto excludes and oklobs werent excluded when running into one 14:48:56 simmarine: this sounds like the correct behavior 14:49:01 oh? 14:49:11 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 14:49:14 i thought there was a default auto_exclude list in the old rc 14:49:24 since auto_exclude += oklob,statue,curse skull,roxanne,hyperactive,lightning spire,mimic is in the default rc 14:49:27 yes, and it is still there 14:49:33 i.e. you need to keep it there if you want it 14:49:34 oh, okay, ill just throw that in there then 14:49:35 -!- Alucard_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:51:09 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:12 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:01:00 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:01:14 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:08:47 <|amethyst> elliptic: thanks for the init.txt updates 15:09:41 -!- indspenceable has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:00 <|amethyst> just pushed an update to dat/defaults/runrest_messages.txt that makes no difference now but will when we fix Lua options to distinguish += from = from -= 15:11:36 what happen to the bots announcing commits? 15:11:53 CIA is having one of its periodic outages. 15:13:12 was thinking more of chei covering for cia but then being weird yesterday 15:13:38 <|amethyst> chei's server was having some problems... can't guarantee they're fixed 15:13:47 <|amethyst> I'll have chei do commit announcements for now 15:13:53 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-495-g5ddeb6a (34) 15:14:44 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:44 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 15:14:44 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is down for major renovations, back by early September, but try CSZO instead! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! Xom thinks this is hilarious! 15:15:32 -!- Zrachosh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 15:16:26 -!- CIA-68 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:36 <|amethyst> and of course... 15:17:06 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:06 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Crawl Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general Crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 15:17:06 -!- The topic of ##crawl is: CAO is down for major renovations, back by early September, but try CSZO instead! | Play Crawl online now: type ??cao, ??cdo, ??cszo, or ??webtiles for instructions | http://crawl.develz.org | FooTV: termcast.develz.org | ##crawl-offtopic: You got your gender in my peanut butter! 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(https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6226) by white_noise 16:49:01 -!- lorenz371 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 16:51:31 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:52:39 -!- yxhvuud has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:56:57 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:57:55 -!- Zwobot has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:59:01 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:00:56 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:12:22 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13:01 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:13:33 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:19:27 -!- Cheibrodos has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:20:22 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:22:37 -!- Jude has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:24:14 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:26:54 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:28:39 Is there a way to give monsters in vaults a no experience flag? 17:28:58 could make them summoned 17:30:00 -!- Mumcon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:31:21 Is there a way to place durably summoned monsters? 17:40:05 -!- bracc has quit [Quit: bracc] 17:40:30 i think you can define summon type in vaults, yeah 17:40:59 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 17:41:49 The only documentation I can find is on a dur variable, which just seems to be the same duration used by nondurably summoned stuff 17:42:01 Unless setting it to 6 means durably summoned? 17:42:29 -!- Sky__ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:42:50 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:44:25 oh looks like you can set the spell that summoned them but maybe not make them durable 17:47:02 -!- JackRogers has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:21 -!- pelotron has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 17:52:08 -!- RollieTG has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 17:54:47 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:56:38 -!- sethu has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:57:04 -!- Camicio1000 has quit [] 17:58:03 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:36 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:00:44 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:48 -!- Jaxy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:01:57 hate vaultmaking so much 18:07:14 seems like everything I do is a nasty hack to make things function 18:09:41 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:11:59 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:17:40 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:40 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:22:22 -!- Nilsyn has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:25:42 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:32 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:37:26 dtsund: vaultmaking is nasty hacks, the game 18:38:32 "Oh, you want to tie an event to the opening of a door, and also flag that door as unopenable by monsters? Haha, nope." 18:39:44 "Want to tie an event to one of two squares entering LOS? Hope you like error messages!" 18:40:32 -!- Flun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:44:12 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:46:05 secret tech, never design vaults that need much lua :P 18:46:18 -!- ctair has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 18:46:38 Can't avoid it. 18:48:45 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:50:04 -!- anele has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 18:51:42 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:51:57 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 18:55:21 -!- BlackSheep_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:56 -!- Wensley has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 18:56:20 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 18:57:11 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 18:57:55 03elliptic * r5e62c5f2956d 10/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc: Smooth traps skill better. 18:57:56 03edlothiol * ra6e37bbe430d 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py: Fix BOMs in Webtiles rc files (#6225). 18:57:57 03|amethyst * r5ddeb6ab6b45 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/defaults/runrest_messages.txt: Update another default file for the new config. 18:57:57 03elliptic 07stone_soup-0.11 * r87ac6913ade8 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix passive trap detection chances not scaling properly (rwbarton). 18:57:58 03elliptic 07stone_soup-0.11 * r79febc68231b 10/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc: Smooth traps skill better. 18:57:59 03elliptic * rdda72db1a608 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix passive trap detection chances not scaling properly (rwbarton). 18:57:59 03elliptic * re75aae34904e 10/crawl-ref/settings/init.txt: Change = to += in init.txt in a lot of lines. 18:58:00 03|amethyst * rbb11d42d5855 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Don't make config warnings block webtiles play. 18:58:01 03|amethyst * rd5911d005fd3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/defaults/ (4 files): Update dat/defaults/* for new config syntax. 18:58:01 03|amethyst * r6b69483700ef 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Update a few more list options. 18:58:02 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.11 * re26a0fb129df 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix Mantis 6221: Properly double poison duration for poison-vulnerable players. 18:58:03 03|amethyst * r468f6c3f88cf 10/crawl-ref/source/ (externs.h initfile.cc pattern.h): Saner rc list options, including reset. 18:58:03 03elliptic * r65aa13110207 10/crawl-ref/source/ (actor.h melee_attack.cc monster.h player.cc player.h): Smooth effects of armour and shields skill on melee. 18:58:04 03elliptic * r4c00ca000e4a 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Some new penance titles. 18:58:04 03elliptic * rfe15d77d8581 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-spll.h: Change one lich spellset. 18:58:05 03dolorous * r425658accaae 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dc-item.txt: Fix compilation. 18:58:05 03ontoclasm * r72158f9c4fd4 10/crawl-ref/source/ (14 files in 3 dirs): Polearms (dd) 18:58:06 03ontoclasm * r51dab6dcafa2 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Drakes (roctavian) 18:58:07 03kilobyte * r87e8dfe5f379 10/crawl-ref/source/crash.cc: Unbreak backtraces on non-Android ARM. 18:58:37 03kilobyte * r71d36aa28d8f 10/crawl-ref/docs/crawl_manual.reST: Manual updates from the wiki. 18:59:42 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:02:35 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 19:03:15 <|amethyst> edlothiol: thanks for the BOM fix... there have been a number of webtiles updates; I guess I'll restart in the next day or so 19:04:07 |amethyst: have you considered swapping out old init.txts for new init.txts when they're byte-identical to the old default? or is there some other way to avoid that screen at startup for people just using the default config? 19:04:29 -!- crate has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:47 it would be nice to at least have statistics on how much people change their rcfiles 19:05:17 how many are unchanged from an old default, how many just have a couple of lines different, how many are completely separate 19:05:29 <|amethyst> elliott: hm, might make sense 19:05:47 <|amethyst> at least as a one-time thing 19:06:41 I guess you might be able to tell whether they've altered their rcfile at all by comparing the date it was last modified to the date the account was created? 19:06:45 elliptic: predict 99% unchanged, 0.5% copied from like one of three people 19:07:00 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:07:03 elliott: I think adding in a couple lines is fairly common, or at least it has been at times in the past 19:07:06 0.5% elephants 19:07:15 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 19:07:16 elliptic: I really doubt the vast majority of webtilers touch the rc at all 19:07:29 and webtiles is more popular than console on cszo I think? 19:07:35 (well it's more popular in general, but) 19:07:40 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 19:07:54 it is easier to change your rcfile in webtiles than in console, so I'm not sure why you would think that 19:07:59 -!- blackbrew has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:08:25 anyway changing default rcfiles to the new default seems good if it is easy to determine whether they are/were default 19:08:55 -!- Predelnik has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:09:46 i will rely on |amethyst for the statistics :P 19:09:58 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:02 also some webtiles players definitely have non-standard rcfiles that they share with each other, etc... this is where the whole "Huge Dmg" thing came from 19:10:15 anyway shouldn't the default rc be completely commented out, ideally? that's presumably the gain of the whole separating clearing vs. appending to defaults 19:10:25 then there'd be no need to update them like that ever 19:13:29 -!- RollieTG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:13:31 <|amethyst> elliott: that's the ultimate plan, yes 19:16:59 |amethyst: off the top of your head, you wouldn't happen to know any functions to map integer x,y,z coordinates to pseudo-random values? 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"Mmm... anchovies!" ?!?!? Does Dolorous even know what this is? 20:27:19 yeah :( 20:27:27 everyone hates anchovies! it's a universal truth 20:27:28 yeuch 20:28:03 would rather eat cockroach chunks before anchovies 20:29:43 i'm forking crawl to fix anchovies message for pizza 20:29:47 pizzacrawl 20:29:55 other pizzacrawl features: pizza option, pizza acquirement 20:29:57 pizza god 20:30:08 giant orange pizza 20:30:12 pizza player race 20:30:19 death pizzas 20:30:20 pizza mimics 20:30:28 pizza branch 20:30:39 the Pizza Hut 20:30:44 MarvinPA: Note that carnivores also think raw flesh tastes good. 20:30:54 pizzas to peregrines 20:31:00 raw flesh is one thing, anchovies are another 20:31:08 exactly! 20:31:13 yuch 20:31:30 In that case, the special-case message should probably be "Even you think those are nasty!" or something similar. 20:31:38 according to Wikipedia, they are prepared mostly by letting them rot (ie, a less extreme version of surströmming) 20:31:45 what with ghouls? 20:32:12 ghouls hate them too 20:32:20 even they have limits 20:32:56 would eat vampire mosquito chunks before eating anchovies 20:32:58 -!- ajikeshi_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:34:17 HangedMan: death drake chunks 20:36:06 ChrisOelmueller: I am now 20:36:33 evilmike: cool, i wanted to complain to some knowledgeable person about getting the undead serial on D:1 20:36:35 evilmike: pizza 20:36:42 and especially the hound zombie right next to my entry vault 20:36:46 pizza pizza pizza pizza 20:37:11 ChrisOelmueller: I'll make it start on D:2, I guess 20:37:27 even there a bunch of zombies might be kind of tough 20:37:50 well, on early levels, the only monsters it places are small zombies and small skeletons 20:38:13 but this can still be kind of hard on D:1. I think D:2 should be ok 20:38:58 in any case it's an improvement over having it on D:1, so i'm fine with that 20:40:06 there's much nastier stuff that can happen on D:2, which isn't even placed by vaults 20:41:03 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 20:41:03 killer bee zombie (07z) | Spd: 18 | HD: 3 | HP: 18-33 | AC/EV: 0/13 | Dam: 8 | 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(4), 02cold++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 58 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 20:41:03 %??killer bee zombie 20:41:10 this is a d:3 small zombie 20:41:43 still less threatening than a single centaur 20:41:51 fair enough 20:43:05 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Client Quit] 20:43:19 03evilmike * r34b8f7e711c5 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/serial/undead.des: Do not place serial_undead on D:1. 20:43:27 and a lot rarer too. you're _far_ more likely to get crap like iguana zombies, etc. Maybe a worker ant zombie is the most dangerous thing that's actually likely to spawn 20:45:25 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:46:37 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:46:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:48:25 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 20:49:00 -!- PepeRC2 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50:25 -!- Turgon has quit [Client Quit] 20:53:41 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:55:18 zombie generation in general makes little sense, it's based on the base monster's size and hardly anything else 20:59:36 -!- elliott has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01:40 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06:46 -!- alefury has quit [] 21:07:30 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 21:11:58 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:14:40 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:15:44 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:16:57 -!- Taco_Princess has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:17:30 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:18:06 Halo tiles overwrite umbra tiles even though umbra cancels haloes (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6227) by nicolae 21:19:58 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:23:12 When mouseover-ed in tiles, the description for monsters within an aura of suppression is wrong (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6228) by nicolae 21:27:23 I sort of would like it if we had wyvern skeletons around early D again 21:27:38 or maybe just wyverns would do 21:30:56 -!- Thann has joined ##crawl-dev 21:35:34 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:35:56 grats elliptic on the speed run! 21:41:43 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:45:22 Thann: thanks :) 21:50:48 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:53:01 -!- maahes has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9-dev] 21:54:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:55:29 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:59 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 22:00:25 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:01:31 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: being stupid, sunstruck, and Dead, flew into the rocketing FIN.] 22:04:25 -!- kwel01 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:09:02 Debian builds of the trunk branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-499-g34b8f7e 22:15:52 -!- BlackSheep_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:19:13 -!- BlackSheep_ has quit [Client Quit] 22:21:04 -!- sacredchao has quit [Changing host] 22:24:33 -!- stenno has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:28:04 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 22:30:18 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:30:45 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]] 22:34:35 -!- BanMido has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:44:45 -!- Zephryn has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:49:44 -!- N78291 has quit [Quit: null] 22:49:56 -!- Rewans has quit [] 22:50:15 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:51:25 -!- Zephryn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:54:06 -!- Psyknux has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:55:57 Debian builds of 0.11 branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-123-g87ac691 23:03:45 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:05:02 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 17.0a2/20120903042010]] 23:09:35 -!- ChanServ has quit [*.net *.split] 23:27:28 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:48:18 03elliptic * rfb002e247c8d 10/crawl-ref/source/acquire.cc: Remove some skill breakpoints from acquirement code. 23:51:09 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 23:51:14 -!- neuwiz has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2] 23:51:56 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:43 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 23:59:00 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]