00:00:32 -!- hangedman has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:02 Pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-109-g4b0fc20 (33) 00:01:37 DracoOmega: "What's an enum?" 00:02:09 Hehe 00:02:18 ancient crawl is fascinating and weird 00:02:29 ??vault[4] 00:02:29 vault[4/4]: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=43ba2b6c8036fb9c61e7f46a1d2ca20a27355696 00:02:57 why's that in the learndb? i dont get it 00:03:55 for the hidden pit fiend entry vault? 00:04:13 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11-b1-109-g4b0fc20 00:04:33 no one is going to notice that 00:04:53 it's a pretty interesting commit IMO 00:04:58 The Arecibo message vault is cute 00:05:19 Wow, one has someone's name spelled out in kanji 00:05:23 well, I think deleted vaults are interesting. It's just that there are more interesting ones than that 00:05:31 asciiart.des is cool 00:05:44 farm_and_ 00:05:48 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-441-ge7642d2 (34) 00:06:32 famous go positions 00:06:33 have you ever seen dpeg's deleted elf ending? 00:06:47 also I see a lot of those "tricky" vaults ended up being problematic in crawl for a long time... some might even still be there? 00:06:48 sounds hot 00:06:51 curse skulls? 00:07:11 also I tend to avoid the RPG as much as I can 00:07:16 why the hell did that vault have a pit fiend stuck in a wall? 00:07:24 Ned (L1 MiMo) (D:1) 00:07:27 most of the terrible code I deal with daily was written by yours truly 00:07:30 anyway 00:07:37 Ned (L1 MiMo) (D:1) 00:07:38 old fire water entry being optional, good times 00:07:58 Ned (L1 MiMo) (D:1) 00:08:11 erik_entry_011 00:08:14 # no pillars for dancing, so no_monster_gen 00:08:19 Ned (L1 MiMo) (D:1) 00:08:19 what's potentially offensive about that? 00:08:26 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:08:32 ontoclasm: i noticed that, yeah :P 00:08:33 good comment 00:08:36 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:08:41 Windows builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-109-g4b0fc20 00:08:45 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:08:52 diaperdad (L1 KoBe) (D:1) 00:09:09 oh dear 00:09:14 Ned (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:09:16 cszo looks unhappy 00:09:25 diaperdad (L1 KoBe) (D:1) 00:09:27 How do I put grates into a vault? 00:09:27 saul (L1 DsAK) (D:1) 00:09:37 kfeat 00:09:46 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:09:55 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:10:06 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:10:10 saul (L1 DsAK) (D:1) 00:10:13 Oh dear 00:10:19 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:10:24 !lm * crash -log 00:10:25 diaperdad (L1 KoBe) (D:1) 00:10:27 3564. saul, XL1 DsAK, T:122 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/saul/crash-saul-20120909-050653.txt 00:10:32 look at this commit for a bunch of weird removed vaults: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=f041f603574aa87804c80067da8dce67d9927b9f 00:10:34 including branch endings 00:10:38 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:10:41 saul (L1 DsAK) (D:1) 00:10:42 uh oh 00:10:46 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:10:48 i think something broke 00:10:50 so I guess cszo is crashing whenever someone starts a game? 00:10:57 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:11:03 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:11:07 !lm * crash x=cv 00:11:08 3570. [2012-09-09] [cv=0.12-a] Tory the Grave Robber (L1 HuNe) ? (D:1) 00:11:08 Jesterhearts (L1 MuSu) (D:1) 00:11:19 !lm * crash -log 00:11:19 3570. Tory, XL1 HuNe, T:14 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/Tory/crash-Tory-20120909-050740.txt 00:11:35 oh, maybe just tiles? 00:11:48 looks like maybe, from the crash dump 00:11:52 yeah 00:12:20 hm, do I even know how to make/play tiles locally nowadays? 00:12:23 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:1) 00:12:24 i hope i didn't do it :C 00:12:40 knew elf, not crypt 00:12:42 well, i guess i haven't touched 0.11 00:12:44 saul (L1 DsAK) (D:1) 00:12:53 MarvinPA (L1 HuFi) (D:1) 00:12:58 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:13:02 it's not immediately on starting a game 00:13:09 oh, not just on start, yeah 00:13:37 Jesterhearts (L2 MuSu) (D:1) 00:13:42 wonderfully amused at seeing those commented-out-for-years vaults 00:13:57 the crash dump says something about shields, could be related to 95bc78d37a1176 maybe? 00:14:14 oh, right, those commented out vaults can be deleted 00:14:24 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:14:50 will take me ages to compile tiles but i'll try it and see 00:14:53 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:14:55 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:15:24 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 00:15:29 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 00:15:30 %git 95bc78d 00:15:37 kilobyte * 0.12-a0-436-g95bc78d: Show shields worn by monsters. (17 hours ago, 1 file, 40+ 0-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/95bc78d37a11 00:15:37 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 00:15:37 Froon (L1 DEWz) (D:1) 00:15:43 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 00:15:53 Froon (L1 DEWz) (D:1) 00:16:07 diaperdad (L1 KoBe) (D:1) 00:17:05 coolio (L10 TrEE) (D:9) 00:17:12 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:17:17 coolio (L10 TrEE) (D:9) 00:17:25 -!- BlackSheep has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:27 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:17:34 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:4) 00:17:50 I got it to crash locally in tiles 00:17:54 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:17:56 coolio (L10 TrEE) (D:9) 00:17:56 it seemed to happen when picking up an item 00:17:58 brochacho (L1 TrMo) (D:1) 00:18:05 03evilmike * r6cf7798c12a9 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_monsters.des: Remove some vaults that have been commented out since 2007. 00:18:06 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:18:22 brochacho (L1 TrMo) (D:1) 00:18:23 I guess not always when picking up an item though, hm 00:18:28 saul (L1 DsAK) (D (Sprint)) 00:18:38 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:18:40 that's quite a lot of crashing 00:18:42 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:18:46 araganzar (L1 HEHu) (D:1) 00:18:47 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:18:59 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:19:03 hm, it is happening when I autoexplore, and I can't tell what is happening because tiles 00:19:14 Jesterhearts (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 00:19:22 araganzar (L1 HEHu) (D:1) 00:19:36 araganzar (L1 HEHu) (D:1) 00:19:50 araganzar (L1 HEHu) (D:1) 00:21:22 BONGHITZ (L1 DDBe) (D:1) 00:21:46 KKCryptic (L1 OgCK) (D:1) 00:22:05 it's weird, it just seems to crash on regular movement to certain squares... 00:22:20 BONGHITZ (L1 DDBe) (D:1) 00:22:32 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:22:56 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:23:24 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:23:34 BONGHITZ (L1 DDBe) (D:1) 00:24:07 Somebody mute that bot 00:24:13 KKCryptic (L1 OgCK) (D:1) 00:24:26 hm, i can't even get tiles to crash locally 00:24:28 BONGHITZ (L1 DDBe) (D:1) 00:24:53 nevermind there it is 00:24:57 KKCryptic (L1 OgCK) (D:1) 00:24:59 &m goblin 00:25:01 I can't even see what could be causing the crash looking at these crash dumps 00:25:07 Could it be monsters moving into view? 00:25:28 i think it's monsters that can equip stuff, yeah 00:25:42 Light had a crash like that for a long time that took a while to figure out 00:25:51 turned out it was monsters that could dualwield moving into view 00:26:11 maybe it is monsters equipping stuff out of sight? 00:26:24 ??lemuel 00:26:24 lemuel[1/4]: Lemuel Vaults, Inc, supplying your evil vault needs for over 200 years. When it's time for you to stop playing and go to bed, Lemuel Vaults, Inc. is there to end your game "The Lemuel Way"(TM). 00:26:49 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:26:56 Is it only tiles? 00:27:04 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:27:10 -!- lexackson has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:27:14 it crashes immediately on &m so maybe it's while trying to draw the tile 00:27:33 wasn't there a shield commit 00:27:42 letting shields show up on tiles 00:27:53 but i guess goblins can't wear shields 00:27:54 yeah some goblins got created out of los just fine, teleporting to them crashes 00:28:05 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 00:28:06 maybe just monsters wielding something 00:28:06 Only orcs and dracs 00:28:13 -!- bh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:28:25 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:28:34 BONGHITZ (L2 SpAr) (Zot (ZotDef)) 00:28:36 Speaking of, try &m orc? 00:29:00 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:29:11 yeah it's 95bc78d37a1176 00:29:55 but i have no hope of figuring out anything much more specific than that, unfortunately :P 00:30:25 Does it crash if you make an orc? 00:30:28 "mon_wep = mon.inv[MSLOT_SHIELD].get();" looks a bit suspicious 00:30:30 dtsund: yes 00:32:20 I think it is crashing precisely for monsters with a weapon but no shield 00:32:44 since donald is fine but donald with no shield crashes 00:32:52 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:33:13 Tenfire (L20 DDEE) (Vaults:1) 00:33:30 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:33:34 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:33:36 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:33:39 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:34:03 -!- Mumcon has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:05 Tory (L1 HuNe) (D:2) 00:34:11 like, it is probably calling tilep_equ_shield(*mon_wep) with mon_wep pointing to a weapon rather than a shield, or something like that 00:34:24 oh, mon_wep is const 00:34:29 yes, this code looks very fishy 00:34:35 maybe just removing that const will fix it 00:34:54 How did that even compile then? 00:35:13 trabius (L13 OpCK) (Orc:1) 00:39:17 -!- ToastyP has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 00:39:57 oh, the const isn't an issue, never mind 00:40:11 hm 00:41:51 BONGHITZ (L1 DDBe) (D:1) 00:42:50 KKCryptic (L1 OgCK) (D:1) 00:45:06 oh, I think I see 00:45:18 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:4) 00:45:27 |amethyst: FR: If Sizzel has reported at least five crashes in the past minute, it stops reporting crashes for a short time afterward 00:46:03 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:46:05 Or at least starts collecting them and putting them all on one line 00:47:23 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 00:47:27 dtsund: not a good idea, we really want to know when there are a lot of crashes 00:47:37 -!- fooobaar has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:47:49 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:5) 00:47:52 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:47:54 brochacho (L1 TrMo) (D:1) 00:48:18 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:4) 00:52:41 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:52:45 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:52:46 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:52:49 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:11 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:12 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:13 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:14 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:15 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:16 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:17 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:19 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:21 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:24 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:26 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:28 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:31 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:32 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:34 -!- dtsund_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:35 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:38 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:39 on the negative side there is that 00:53:39 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:42 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:45 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:47 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:48 well, I don't know about tiles to know whether shields are actually being displayed correctly, but this commit seems to fix the crashing at least 00:53:50 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Disconnected by services] 00:53:52 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:52 -!- dtsund_ is now known as dtsund 00:53:54 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:57 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:53:59 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:54:01 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:54:04 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:54:06 Bolas (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:55:05 elliptic: Well, prior to that commit, shields weren't supposed to display at all 00:55:16 Alucard (L1 MiFi) (D (Sprint)) 00:55:50 -!- Fhqwhgads has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:57:05 soulrippa (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:57:26 soulrippa (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 00:58:53 hm, so after this fix I have, it seems that the shield shows up correctly on armed monsters but not on unarmed ones 00:59:00 Alucard (L1 MiFi) (D (Sprint)) 00:59:45 Alucard (L1 MiFi) (D (Sprint)) 01:00:19 Alucard (L7 TeFE) (D:4) 01:01:11 Stick (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 01:01:33 Ned (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 01:01:36 esfblueriver (L1 FeTm) (D:1) 01:01:37 Ned (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 01:01:40 Ned (L1 CeHu) (D:1) 01:01:52 Stick (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 01:02:32 esfblueriver (L1 FeTm) (D:2) 01:02:56 esfblueriver (L1 FeTm) (D:2) 01:03:02 Ned (L1 SpEn) (D (Sprint)) 01:03:21 esfblueriver (L1 FeTm) (D:2) 01:03:43 I wonder if this is a record for most crashes in an hour? 01:03:47 Stick (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 01:03:58 Some of these people are awfully persistant, though 01:04:04 03elliptic * rd75ce2fcaea5 10/crawl-ref/source/tilemcache.cc: Fix tiles crash with shieldless monsters. 01:04:21 esfblueriver (L1 FeTm) (D:2) 01:04:32 Stick (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 01:04:36 well, I don't understand enough about how the code works to make the shield actually display properly... but not showing at all is better than crashing 01:04:58 Wel, they never displayed at all before now 01:05:03 now time to remember how to use that update stuff that |amethyst set up 01:05:07 So it's not like it's much of a reversion 01:05:26 They were either directly drawn into the tile for monsters that basically always had them, or simply not shown at all 01:05:45 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 01:06:22 Ned (L5 CeHu) (D (Sprint)) 01:07:18 Unstable branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.12-a0-443-gd75ce2f (34) 01:07:21 Stick (L1 MiFi) (D:1) 01:07:48 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 01:08:00 okay that should lessen the number of crashes soon 01:08:23 taqueso (L4 HEAE) (D:3) 01:14:30 -!- valrus has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 01:16:33 Just to check, the LOS nerf for Summoners was .12, not .11 01:22:29 frobop (L1 DEWz) (D:1) 01:23:29 !lm * crash -log 01:23:33 3687. frobop, XL1 DEWz, T:98 (milestone): http://dobrazupa.org/morgue/frobop/crash-frobop-20120909-061912.txt 01:24:03 old version, good 01:24:43 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:29:19 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 01:29:35 -!- KKCryptic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:29:44 -!- ig0rbit has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:30:07 -!- RollieTG has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]] 01:30:10 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 01:40:00 -!- Tolias has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:42:42 -!- Rofaner has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:59:30 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:01:33 -!- akahs has quit [Changing host] 02:01:55 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 02:34:10 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 02:40:38 oy vey, I thoroughly checked a number of cases with shields and weapons, but I think it always had been "; weapon . some_shield" -or- "; nothing" 02:41:10 or Arachne, but she just happens to have a special tile when with a staff and nothing else 02:42:24 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:43:15 -!- akahs has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:02 oh wow, layout_vaults.des is huge 02:49:12 and so many uppercase variables 02:50:09 scary 02:51:46 I'm not sure yet, but it seems to me it avoids using #array for array length for some reason 02:52:28 even without the extensive documentation, it's gigantic, yeah 02:52:32 mercifully, almost half of it is comments/whitespace... 02:52:50 i think infiniplex avoids using the # operator because he wrote this in (I think) Java originally, and then converted it to Lua 02:53:01 the comments say it was C++ initially 02:53:09 oh, right 02:53:15 but then, both C++ and java have ways to retrieve sizes of arrays without storing them separately 02:53:40 infiniplex is pretty amazing 02:55:08 i'm almost tempted to properly learn vault syntax for this 02:56:35 can i just toss in WEIGHTs and the generators will eventually place the vault if it fits in, or are there some pitfalls with this layout? 02:56:43 -!- SchwaWarrior has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:57:20 there are certain guidelines you'll want to follow, but its possible to design vaults that work in this layout and in other parts of the dungeon 02:57:41 i'd start with V layout only, reading the documentation at the moment 02:57:52 he documented this in branches/vaults_rooms.des 02:59:42 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:32 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 03:10:36 yay i got my vault placed 03:10:51 this system is pretty amazing indeed 03:16:31 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:23:13 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 03:29:35 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:36:04 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 03:38:55 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 03:43:01 -!- Cab_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:45:52 So, if trunk is disabled on cdo, why doesn't it put you back on the main menu at least? 03:46:12 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:47:34 <|amethyst> I don't know if dgamelaunch supports going back two steps 03:50:25 -!- wjchen has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:12:06 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:19:25 -!- sacredchao is now known as stenno 04:25:00 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:50 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:28 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:32:06 -!- Mumcon has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:44 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:35:01 -!- wjchen has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:47 -!- kliph has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:38:24 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:38:37 GoblinsGrasp (L2 VpSk) (D:2) 04:44:21 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:52:14 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:56:47 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 04:58:51 -!- jato_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:02 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-443-gd75ce2f 05:01:43 -!- Jatoskep has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:08:31 -!- mumbologist has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:12:08 -!- wjchen has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:13:20 -!- Silurio has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:22:25 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:00 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:31:49 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 05:37:24 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:45 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:42:03 -!- angus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:52:46 -!- alefury has quit [] 06:02:05 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:47 -!- DainHome has quit [Quit: Dain's default quit message] 06:30:50 -!- hangedman has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:32:04 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:33:22 -!- camicio has quit [] 06:48:45 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 07:24:15 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:31:22 -!- cosmonaut has joined ##crawl-dev 07:32:37 -!- RollieTG has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44:15 hey I'm playing crawl git tile version at local, and when I hit Shift + X for looking around dungeon then my inventory tap(locating on right-down) switch to navigation tab and never come back to inventory tab if I don't change that tap manually.. Is it possible to change that thing by config? 07:53:18 -!- wheals has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:59:24 cosmonaut: it's not a config issue, it's a recent bug 07:59:29 it's been reported already 07:59:33 #6190 08:00:01 -!- stenno has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:00:48 oh 08:01:14 -!- MPR has quit [Changing host] 08:05:32 well I think I can wait until fix that.. thx anyway, galehar 08:06:25 you can also play an older version. The bug was introduced in 08:06:26 -!- HandiCraftsman has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:06:31 0.12-a0-422-gf400252 08:09:50 -!- stenno has quit [Changing host] 08:12:44 -!- nooodl_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:13 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:15:58 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:17:17 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:24:18 -!- HellTiger has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:34:51 03galehar * reb3e8b2b0782 10/crawl-ref/source/tilesdl.cc: Switch back to the inventory panel when leaving map mode (#6190). 08:35:00 cosmonaut: ^ 08:36:49 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 08:39:17 -!- fooobaar has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:29 @galehar: It works great. thanks :) 08:39:29 -!- BlackSheep has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:03 :) 08:51:11 !tell lexackson (xn > 0) + (xn < 0)*(-1) is an incredibly complicated way to write abs(xn) 08:51:12 galehar: OK, I'll let lexackson know. 08:53:08 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:45 -!- ebarrett has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:54:20 -!- lexackson has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:41 hey folks 08:54:41 lexackson: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:54:48 !messages 08:54:48 (1/1) galehar said (3m 37s ago): (xn > 0) + (xn < 0)*(-1) is an incredibly complicated way to write abs(xn) 08:55:10 isn't it? 08:55:13 nope 08:55:31 it returns either +1 or -1 08:55:53 also, given 2 it returns +1 08:55:58 that's sign(x) 08:55:59 not abs(x) 08:56:00 hmm 08:56:00 -2, -1 08:56:08 oh right, sorry 08:56:28 but still, seems odd how it's written 08:56:31 haha 08:56:41 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1903954/is-there-a-standard-sign-function-signum-sgn-in-c-c suggests (0 < xn) - (xn < 0) as an alternate phrasing 08:56:50 oh, that's pretty much what you wrote 08:56:50 isn't it the same as (xn > 0) - (xn < 0) ? 08:56:59 sorry, i didn't know how to do it otherwise 08:57:02 just x + y*-1 is the same as x + -y is the same as x - y 08:57:34 (of course, probably best to factor this out into a signum() function, since it's a bit confusing anyway...) 08:57:57 i'll have to look that up 08:58:07 lexackson: there's no signum() function, but you can define it 08:58:13 oh 08:58:15 int signum(int x) { return (0 < x) - (x < 0); } 08:58:26 yeah okay 08:59:16 at that rate i could just make a coord_def rotator though 08:59:39 unless you think others would want to use signum() 09:00:34 I don't know the context, really :P 09:01:57 hey galehar, want me to change it to a function? 09:02:55 lexackson: I think a function would be nice yes 09:03:03 or even an iterator 09:03:12 as you like 09:03:26 okay 09:03:44 actually, it's almost the same as adjacent_iterator 09:05:06 otherwise, it looks pretty good 09:05:23 have you read coding_conventions.txt? 09:05:52 you still don't respect a few, but that's not a big deal, easy to fix 09:06:01 -!- Sab0t has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:06:03 -!- lorenz371 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:09:25 i tried to fix the if conditions 09:09:53 look over it again for conventions 09:14:49 Find mode doesn't show location of targets (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6198) by BlackSheep 09:17:40 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:51 -!- Megika has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:28:55 -!- simmarine has joined ##crawl-dev 09:37:29 -!- temujin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38:18 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:43:18 -!- Insomniak` has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:44:19 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:49:20 -!- Wensley has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:58:08 -!- Rofaner has quit [Client Quit] 09:59:53 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 10:03:15 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:41 -!- wheals has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:08:49 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:14:11 galehar: you mean, sgn(), defined in multiple places in Crawl's codebase already? 10:15:44 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:23:12 |amethyst: ./fineff.h:66:10: warning: 'mirror_damage_fineff::merge' hides overloaded virtual function [-Woverloaded-virtual] 10:23:21 (and a crapload more of that) 10:23:36 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:22 -!- bh has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:33 |amethyst: yes -- it should be invoc, not evoc 10:27:23 <|amethyst> kilobyte: that's illegal? 10:28:21 merely a warning, but that's not good news, as it means the overloading doesn't work 10:28:26 <|amethyst> ohhh 10:28:29 <|amethyst> I see 10:28:33 <|amethyst> I forgot the 'const' 10:29:07 <|amethyst> or, rather, have a bad const in the base class 10:33:20 -!- One-Eyed has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:33:26 so does this mean all the effects are broken 10:34:16 <|amethyst> no, it just means a fineff isn't properly merged with another fineff that does the same thing 10:34:29 -!- vwzzz is now known as Yoshiz 10:34:44 -!- yoshizzz has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:36:20 aw 10:36:33 so can you get dual electricity or something 10:37:31 <|amethyst> also, that enum was supposed to be gone 10:38:07 |amethyst: want a new patch, or do yo just want to flip it from SK_INV to SK_EVO? 10:40:20 <|amethyst> bh: I'm not sure about the chance... if the point is to prevent slowdowns, shouldn't it happen all the time? 10:40:55 <|amethyst> and I'm not sure about balance... is an abyss teleport better for the player? 10:41:27 <|amethyst> I guess so, since you usually step from time to make things go away (unlike temporal distortion) 10:42:19 03|amethyst * r9ddb11606152 10/crawl-ref/source/fineff.h: Fix an overload that should have been an override. 10:42:39 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:42:56 it runs for `you.skill(SK_INVOCATIONS, 10) * you.piety / 100` turns 10:43:40 -!- BlackSheep has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:44:40 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:46:13 So we're looking at 16 to 436 turns 10:46:14 432 10:46:15 <|amethyst> bh: and what's the probability of the autoteleport? 10:46:37 0.5 to 0.96 10:46:44 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46:52 <|amethyst> no, I mean before the patch 10:47:10 <|amethyst> looks like 1/800 10:47:19 <|amethyst> each turn, that is 10:47:39 <|amethyst> assuming you don't have teleportitis 10:47:58 yes -- let's do some R... 10:48:22 <|amethyst> 2% for 16 turns, 42% for 436 turns 10:48:46 41.7% ;) 10:49:00 <|amethyst> hm? 10:49:12 <|amethyst> 1 - (799/800)**436 gives me 0.42036 10:50:24 <|amethyst> also, what about healing? 10:50:37 -!- Pepe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:46 -!- TheUnlifeAquatic has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:50:49 |amethyst: ah -- I corrected myself, it's 432 turns, not 436 10:50:53 <|amethyst> aha 10:51:03 <|amethyst> do you heal while stepped from time? I don't do chei that often 10:51:09 I could just rewrite time step to not actually simulate the dungeon 10:51:26 what is this invo vs. evo thing? 10:51:33 <|amethyst> elliott: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6196 10:51:40 elliott: in a patch I wrote I just used the wrong skill. 10:51:43 ah 10:51:47 ??badmantis[3] 10:51:47 badmantis[3/7]: 0005922: When a worshiper of Jiyva Juatzu reaches 6 star piety and enters the final floor of the Slime Pits all the treasure gets eaten. 10:51:50 oops, wrong one 10:51:51 ??badmantis[4] 10:51:51 badmantis[4/7]: 0005975: Poisoned for 8 pages! 10:51:59 ??badmantis[2] 10:52:00 badmantis[2/7]: 0005858: Evocation has almost no impact on Cheibriados Abilities (MeGl) 10:52:01 there :) 10:52:19 <|amethyst> ha, I had forgotten about that one 10:52:27 you can import bh's patch and mark 5858 as fixed 10:55:02 When Chei was written we just made up numbers for his powers and submitted it under the understanding that someone else would balance 'em. 10:55:12 I don't think that happened in the intervening three years. 10:56:23 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:56:55 <|amethyst> Is this supposed to be a balance fix or a performance fix? 10:57:04 <|amethyst> both I guess 10:57:06 remember when chei gave stat boosts and resists for no reason because nobody could think of actually flavorful abilities 10:57:15 that was cool 10:57:21 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:32 makes sense if you reflavor chei as god of flexing. have to pose whenever you move, bulge out those biceps 10:58:47 are you nerfing a chei ability 10:58:58 that seems like the wrong direction for a balance change :P 11:00:22 elliott: The abyss lags like hell when you use chei's time step. 11:00:34 that was to |amethyst 11:01:01 <|amethyst> I'm not changing anything myself 11:01:19 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:39 |amethyst: I'd just as soon abandon the patch and write a real fix. 11:05:20 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 11:06:32 <|amethyst> could just have the abyss not morph while the player is stepped from time, then do one massive morph at the end 11:06:36 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:40 galehar, alright I made that new function and fixed a couple style mistakes, it's cleave_irc_version2.diff now 11:07:18 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:07:27 whoa -- abyss speed is... erratic 11:07:47 <|amethyst> should be periodic 11:07:49 What do you put into kfeat to make an altar for Beogh? 11:07:51 There's a 50% chance it will get faster and a 20% chance that it will get slower. 11:08:04 effects.cc line 2213 11:08:14 <|amethyst> oh, that speed 11:09:08 <|amethyst> bh: 10% for getting slower, really, since you have to fail the first chance 11:10:23 -!- MPR has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:11:32 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:56 <|amethyst> so for my the config fixes I'm working on, I'm not sure what to do for autoinscribe and spell_slot 11:13:17 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:13:46 <|amethyst> they are "sort of" list options, but you can only specify one item at a time 11:14:37 <|amethyst> so it seems kind of silly to give a warning saying autoinscribe = x:y will reset the option 11:15:10 <|amethyst> s/will/will in the future/ 11:15:50 <|amethyst> OTOH, it probably is something you'd want to be able to reset 11:27:29 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:27:33 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:11 <|amethyst> I guess I'll just be consistent with everything else... autoinscribe = foo:bar will give a warning 11:36:53 -!- andrew__ is now known as andrewhl 11:38:34 -!- MPR has quit [Changing host] 11:42:05 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 11:45:46 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 11:46:44 -!- ZRN has quit [] 11:46:44 -!- MPR has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:52:15 serial_hangedman_research fixes and tweaks (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6199) by Claws 11:52:24 mwahahahahaha 11:53:06 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:54:48 -!- ZRN has quit [] 11:55:50 -!- fooobaar has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:56:56 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:57:20 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 12:02:08 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:04:37 -!- DainHome has quit [Changing host] 12:08:05 -!- y2s82 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08:16 |amethyst: I had some time to think about abyss'y morphing. If we were to use grab bag and only morph some small percentage of the squares per turn, that should ease some of the update pain. 12:08:50 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:11:02 -!- Elynae is now known as cang 12:11:31 <|amethyst> bh: with an increase in velocity through the Z axis to make up for the increased stability? 12:11:34