00:01:59 -!- Icehawk78 has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:02:27 -!- Sab0t has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:03:38 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2-g661b871 (33) 00:05:42 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:06:27 -!- pelotr0n has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 00:13:24 -!- SirVaulterScoff has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:14:21 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:54 -!- garfeldt has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:17:15 -!- yogidabear has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:20:13 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2-g661b871 00:24:20 -!- DarthCloakedGuy has quit [Quit: Not that there is anything wrong with that] 00:29:05 -!- WalkerBoh has quit [Client Quit] 00:32:21 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:35:56 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:43:32 -!- JackRogers has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:44:52 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:14 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:37 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49:57 22:48:44 I just found the room full of dead minotaurs on my new character. 00:50:00 22:48:49 With a D:1 Oka. 00:50:02 [...] 00:50:04 22:48:54 I currently have 5 stars of piety. 00:50:06 22:48:59 XL 4 00:50:09 22:49:07 On D:2 00:50:14 22:49:30 Roarke (L4 HuAs) became the Champion of Okawaru. (D:2) 00:50:33 might this vault need fixing? 00:51:26 somehow I thought that was already fixed... certainly people were talking about it several weeks ago 00:51:55 simple fix is to make the vault not generate nearly so early 00:52:08 I'm not sure why we want to give people free food on D:2 anyway 00:52:59 could pre-chunk the corpse? I forget the exact vault 00:53:45 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59:16 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 00:59:34 yeah, just chunk it 01:03:41 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:14:07 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:16:20 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:20:50 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:26:49 -!- elliott has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:35:12 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 01:39:21 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:41:37 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54:53 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:58:10 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:58:44 -!- g057721 has quit [Client Quit] 02:08:33 -!- Staplefun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:15:00 -!- johnny0 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:17:00 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:17:25 <|amethyst> so re oka corpses... checking the corpse's MONSTER_MID prop seems to be the most reasonable but raises a few questions: 1) should the sacrifice be rejected, or just grant zero piety? if the latter, should there be a message? 2) what about more traditional blood gods? Nemelex? 02:17:49 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:19:57 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 02:19:58 <|amethyst> (as a separate issue, Oka sacrifice piety calculations end up ignoring the corpse's HD if it is different from the default, despite attempting to use the value 02:20:01 <|amethyst> ) 02:21:48 <|amethyst> err, ignore my mention of Nemelex there; that's a different code path entirely 02:21:53 -!- Sab0t_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:22:52 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:25:52 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:26:56 -!- Codrus|2 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:30:42 <|amethyst> oh... hm... MONSTER_MID doesn't seem to be probative 02:31:33 <|amethyst> the key still exists even for created corpses? or am I doing something wrong 02:32:59 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:54 <|amethyst> oh, because _dgn_item_corpse() makes the corpse by killing a monster 02:46:56 <|amethyst> That can be worked around, at the expense of preventing vault/wizmode-placed phoenix corpses from reviving 02:46:56 -!- noobcanoe has quit [Client Quit] 02:49:08 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:51:06 -!- morduin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:51:24 -!- Zeor has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- s0 d4Mn l33t |t'z 5c4rY!] 02:51:55 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:11 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 03:05:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:10:29 -!- KKCryptic has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:13:46 -!- ac13 has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:33:04 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 03:34:03 -!- ketsa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:35:00 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:36:37 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:37:05 -!- Mumcon has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:45:22 -!- Elk3h has quit [] 03:47:03 -!- Lasse- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:50:17 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 03:52:33 -!- Staplefun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 03:52:44 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 04:05:33 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:07:27 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:00 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 3.6.28/20120306064154]] 04:10:16 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:38 -!- Lasse- has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:34:49 -!- Video_Games has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:48:18 -!- VengefulCarrot has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:53:56 -!- Elynae has quit [Client Quit] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.12-a0-2-g661b871 05:00:37 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:43 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:58 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:06 Hello? 05:15:07 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:15:19 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:56 hey 05:25:26 -!- Adeon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:26:20 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:27:51 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:28:37 -!- MorganL has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 05:36:37 initialize force_autopickup for missles on hunters and arcane marksmen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6063) by Thann 05:38:38 -!- Thann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:42:32 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 05:48:03 getting this failure when trying to install trunk debian build: 05:48:06 dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/crawl-tiles_2%3a0.11-a0-3195-g7d5a1a1-0~1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/crawl/dat/defaults/autopickup_exceptions.txt', which is also in package crawl-common 2:0.11-a0-3195-g7d5a1a1-0~1 05:48:10 dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe) 05:55:46 -!- wjkdlss has quit [] 05:56:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:25 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:58:23 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:10:04 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:10:29 -!- crate has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:19:56 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.6 sic populo comunicated] 06:22:20 Monsters with M_BLOOD_SCENT can't smell blood unless the player is a vampire. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6064) by CommanderC 06:22:54 -!- animegrampa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:59:55 -!- domi_ has quit [Quit: さようなら] 07:01:16 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:03:05 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:26 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:22:16 -!- RollieTG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:29:30 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 07:39:29 -!- frogbotherer has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:57 -!- Video_Games has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:53:44 -!- Isvaffel has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:54:00 Ten vaults, an encompass vault. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6065) by Claws 07:59:35 -!- cosmonaut has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:06:43 -!- thened has quit [Quit: thened] 08:14:18 Ability menu doesn't show descriptions (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6066) by jejorda2 08:20:00 Debian builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-2-geecd73d 08:21:57 -!- barbs has joined ##crawl-dev 08:33:05 galehar: do you want a quick chat about the Android port? 08:33:48 hey frogbotherer ^^ 08:34:05 hey! did you get that performance problem sorted? 08:34:38 mostly! i tweaked it a bit and optimised it, it's much faster than it was before now 08:34:46 not quite as fast as yours though *shakes fist* 08:34:51 :D 08:35:27 what was it, in the end? 08:36:46 so I changed a couple of things...when the native code was sending characters to print to the java code via the curses adapter, it was sending them one character at a time rather than using a buffer, so now I'm using a buffer 08:37:24 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:37:37 and also, the java code was creating a new string each time it got something from the native code, which was surprisingly expensive, so now I'm just casting the bytes it receives 08:37:39 ohhh nasty! 08:38:31 but yes, it's quite smooth now...i have another vague idea on how to make it faster, but for now it's good 08:38:41 yours plays really nicely :D 08:38:57 i haven't looked at your thread in a while, where are you up to with it? 08:38:59 99% of the work is in the SDL library port, which isn't mine at all :) 08:39:21 the UI hack^H^H^H^Himprovements are mine though 08:39:57 all the common actions can be done through clicking icons now, including butchery and the like 08:40:17 and there's a pop-up prompt for all the Y/N dialogues 08:40:32 i did have a look at your branch and compared it to the master/origin (whatever it's called), you've added some fancy stuff for touchscreens :) 08:40:58 most of it is overlaying menuing on top of the existing screens 08:40:58 yeah i noticed that ^^ 08:41:21 i've split the commands out into common and not-so-common, too 08:41:56 and i'm about to bodge the map mode so that you select options from a panel on the right instead of through keyboard shortcuts 08:42:06 oh awesome. I guess the touchscreen is a totally different interface, so you'd have to do some rearranging 08:42:19 <_dd> hey frogbotherer 08:42:19 sounds like heaps of fun :D 08:42:33 <_dd> let me know if there's any more icons you'd need for the android port 08:42:35 yeah, relying on the soft keyboard for everything is a drag :) 08:43:02 _dd: will do! 08:43:23 indeed :) 08:44:04 <_dd> i'd try out the android port but i'm not sure how well it would work on my phone with 320x240 display... 08:45:37 <_dd> maybe it should have a feature to scale all tiles to size 08:46:15 the layout code already tries to scale to fit, and works [reasonably] elegantly at tiny screen sizes 08:46:26 <_dd> oh ok 08:46:37 <_dd> sounds neat, maybe i should try it 08:46:38 there was someone on the tavern thread who'd tried to run it at that rez, and it works well enough to play 08:47:06 <_dd> what kind of scaling algorithm do you use? 08:47:34 it's whatever the existing layout code does: i think it just gets OpenGL to half-size the dungeon grid and be done with it 08:48:32 one of these days i'll set up some low resolution emulator images to actually test this stuff properly :D 08:49:43 oh frogbotherer, meant to email you about profiling...someone made a library for profiling native android applications: http://code.google.com/p/android-ndk-profiler/ 08:50:30 it's a static library and a header file and some other things, and then you make some start/stop method calls in your code, and it produces a file that you pull off and run through a program to analyse 08:50:40 oh nice! 08:50:57 i got it partially working...i got the amount of times methods were being called, but not the % of CPU time... 08:51:10 in the end though, it was the java stuff that was causing headaches anyway 08:52:38 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:54:17 what was it that Carmack said about Java? "a great way to do things slowly"? :D 08:54:41 lol, yeah 08:57:24 -!- voker57_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:58:03 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:08:37 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:29 -!- Aryth has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:21:00 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:05 -!- CrazyJew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:48 -!- barbs has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:38:29 -!- Luckyned has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:38:34 -!- wheals has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:39:18 frogbotherer: a lot of your UI improvements would be great for desktop tiles, too... so it'd be good if the #ifdef TOUCH_UI could be removed wherever possible/applicable. 09:41:29 -!- simmarine has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:41:29 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:45:34 also, I wonder how hard it would be to have the SDL port in a submodule in our tree instead of the other way around 09:45:52 -!- shmuale is now known as wheals 09:46:34 I'd love for the UIs to be entirely separate from the base code, but that would be a bit of a heroic endeavour. 09:47:22 nethack 4 does that with a client-server protocol, I hear it works decently 09:47:28 getting rid of the TOUCH_UI stuff is fine - i'd done that in case some of the (somewhat unilateral) changes were desired for the touch-driven Android UI but not for normal desktop tiles 09:48:40 Grunt: well, it would be great to have, but yes, an insane amount of work 09:48:42 making the SDL port a subdirectory of the crawl tree is much more difficult because of the way android development works: it's not just some tweaks to a library, it's a whole Java application that loads the game as a native library 09:49:37 ... plus a build framework to integrate the port, the other libraries, the Java and JNI stuff, the android package, and so on and so forth :) 09:49:55 I admit I haven't actually tried to build it yet 09:50:26 that would be like fight.cc rewrite x100 09:50:43 i'm not really a pro at this stuff though, so there might be a better way to do it - barbs' console port is more conventional 09:50:50 and that one more or less killed a developer 09:50:50 except even more work, since it wouldn't be just constrained to one file 09:51:00 UI code is strewn basically everywhere 09:51:31 my roguelike is heavily inspired by crawl code 09:51:35 it's a great source of 'don't do that' 09:58:02 frogbotherer: also, I wonder if we couldn't cope without wchar_t support... not sure if being able to use the standard NDK would be worth it? 09:58:21 it messed up the unicode support 09:58:56 so it'll be an issue for 0.12, once you get more interesting characters in 09:59:18 don't we mostly use UTF8-encoded strings or our own ucs_t anyway? 09:59:20 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 10:01:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:01:40 i'm not really sure - the first go i had at it, i replaced wchar_t with char and wrote a couple of pass-through functions in unicode.cc 10:01:54 that worked, but only for ASCII 10:02:01 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:02:10 where did you need wchar_t anyway? it looks to me like most uses of it are for windows 10:02:39 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 10:02:44 although some of it may not be #ifdef'd 10:02:45 wchar_t is an iffy type, so many varying values on each platform... IIRC android's libc actually defines it as an 8-bit type, but I may be wrong 10:02:52 kilobyte_ will know this better 10:03:03 -!- voker57__ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 10:03:30 elliott: it looks like it's 4-byte from a specific API version on, but 1-byte before that 10:03:32 it uses wstring and some of the stdlib functions for handling wide char strings too 10:03:37 edlothiol: nice 10:03:57 * elliott can't really think of a situation where wchar_t is ever useful, unless I guess you're targetting one platform and it has fancy extra functions for dealing with them 10:04:02 yeah, android defines it as garbage, essentially. the headers say "we've put these here so your stuff compiles, but don't expect it to work or anything" 10:04:10 We recommend any developer to get rid of any dependencies on the wchar_t type 10:04:11 and switch to better representations. The support provided in Android is only 10:04:11 there to help you migrate existing code. 10:04:25 that's why crystax re-implemented it 10:05:22 it's very likely that the routines could be re-written in unicode.cc to not use wchar_t and wstring 10:05:36 (note use of passive voice) :D 10:05:43 frogbotherer: grepping for wstring only gives me uses in unicode.* (apart from one in webtiles code that's probably bad) 10:05:59 yeah, it's only the one bit of code that needs changing 10:07:16 i just wasn't very interested in putting the effort in, once i discovered that the crystax toolchain worked better than the official one 10:07:25 they have gcc 4.6 support too :D 10:07:45 I don't know if it's even worth it, it just seems to me that using the official NDK would be good, but I don't know anything about android development ;) 10:08:21 i only know what i've learnt from the last six months of playing around with crawl here; but my experience has been the two kits are interchangeable 10:09:07 <_dd> hm... when you click on the abilities tab, if you don't have any abilities, the game log gives a "sorry, you 10:09:14 <_dd> 're not special enough" message 10:09:23 <_dd> or is this fixed already 10:09:56 <_dd> i don't think the message should show up just for clicking the tab.. 10:10:39 I think I saw a commit about fixing messages when opening the abilities menu, might just have been debug messages 10:10:50 _dd, ever try clicking on the spells tab when you don't have any spells? 10:11:08 <_dd> no, but i tried it now 10:11:12 <_dd> and i don't like that behaviour either 10:11:27 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:36 <_dd> this is just my opinion but i don't think the messages should show up just for changing to the tab 10:12:15 <_dd> clutters up the message view needlessly, you already get the information that you don't have abilities/spells from seeing the empty tab 10:12:26 I don't think anyone will disagree about that 10:12:51 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:14:51 how difficult would it be not to show the tab at all if you didn't have any abilities [or spells, or memorisables, or what-have-you]? 10:15:31 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:43 i'm probably about to find out, thinking about it, because i'm planning to put a new tab in for map mode that only appears whilst it's active :D 10:16:35 frogbotherer: so no full-screen map mode? ;) 10:17:13 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:23 edlothiol: i was tempted, after galehar put ideas in my head about pinch zooming and swipe scrolling 10:17:38 03Grunt 07stone_soup-0.11 * rbb56a3b4c7c3 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Reinstate '?' as a toggle key for the abilities menu. 10:17:40 but i want to re-use as much of what's there as possible :) 10:17:51 03Grunt * r2842a5216a4a 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Reinstate '?' as a toggle key for the abilities menu. 10:17:54 I guess I should have mentioned that that fixes a bug in thee commit message >:| 10:17:58 is anyone here interested in adopting lava orcs (even if not immediately)? 10:18:50 frogbotherer: well, feel free to implement it for desktop tiles as well and reuse that ;) 10:21:21 <_dd> oh, and the memorization tab also produces a message that you aren't carrying spellbooks 10:21:30 <_dd> if you aren't carrying spellbooks 10:22:03 -!- naulis is now known as naalis 10:23:12 hm, semi-related - do all the abilities on the ability tab disappear when you're silenced? 10:23:29 if they're all invocations that is 10:24:04 i assume so if they work the same way as the console ability menu, anyway 10:24:14 If you can't use an ability, it's grayed out on the tab, but still appears. 10:25:08 that seems to be true for breath weapons 10:25:15 but invocations do just disappear when you get silenced 10:25:45 tiles compile finally finished so i could check :P 10:26:30 i keep meaning to fix that in console at least, it shouldn't claim you have no abilities when you're really just silenced and can't use them 10:26:34 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:36 not sure of the best way to go about it though 10:28:54 The game doesn't claim you have no abilities; it says "You cannot call out to while silenced." 10:29:00 oh nevermind, amethyst beat me to it 10:29:04 yeah, just spotted that commit 10:29:04 ... at least, if you have no other abilities that you can use while silenced. 10:30:00 but it still could be handled better i guess, especially for the tiles tabs 10:30:05 <_dd> also i know you guys are busy and all but i'd really like for someone to take a look at my axe tiles, they've been sitting around for a while... 10:37:13 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:43:03 shouldn't there be a blog post for cao's downtime? 10:43:27 sure. not many people have access to the cdo wordpress though 10:43:53 like, there was never even a post for 0.10.3 :P 10:44:07 03Grunt * r3ca565274773 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc abl-show.h tilereg-abl.cc): Show invocations in local tiles ability tab even when silenced. 10:44:08 03Grunt 07stone_soup-0.11 * r9d7f3b3d83d6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc abl-show.h tilereg-abl.cc): Show invocations in local tiles ability tab even when silenced. 10:46:47 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:30 -!- Tolias has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:54:45 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:03:49 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:00 -!- bhaak is now known as simmarine 11:05:08 -!- simmarine is now known as bhaak 11:05:12 -!- punpun has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:05:14 -!- simmarine_ is now known as simmarine 11:06:59 -!- wejkdsd has quit [] 11:14:41 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:15:02 -!- animegrampa has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:25:19 -!- Aquollyx has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:26:07 -!- Yen has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:28:20 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:29:00 -!- wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:15 ??test 11:30:16 test[1/38]: did you guys do this right? 11:33:07 |amethyst: is s-z.org set up to replace cao for the duration of the downtime? 11:33:49 <|amethyst> wensley: as a game server, yes---not henzell, scoring, etc 11:33:58 |amethyst: I have a bot doing everything(-ish) that henzell used to do, except for announcing games obviously 11:34:13 <|amethyst> Sizzell will be doing the announcing 11:34:16 because there are no games on my server 11:34:25 which I am calling "SO2" 11:34:32 because it is like a chemical compound 11:35:00 Sizzell is an excellent choice :) 11:35:16 I was thinking of calling it SO4 and then hosting dgl on h2.seleniac.org:4 but that was just too damn nerdy 11:35:36 I'm working on getting new-CAO up with something on the front page explaining what's going on, but that will take a bit 11:35:42 wensley: amazing 11:35:44 wensley: <3 11:37:42 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:40 yes, I am excited to subvert IANA protocol by one day hosting crawl on port 2 11:38:53 I hope it breaks everything 11:39:10 a server for rebels and degenerates indeed 11:39:43 -!- dingir has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:39:51 oh god I just got that :P 11:40:04 haha :) 11:40:31 edlothiol, frogbotherer: wchar_t is not supposed to be used outside of system interface (like mbrtowc() calls); it's useless for our purposes as Windows, Java and Javascript have it two-byte 11:40:55 -!- Insomniak has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:41:15 ok, that's what I assumed 11:41:23 I did later breach this slightly by using std::wstring to support utf16 BOMs even on non-Windows 11:41:40 can either kill that ugly thing, or reimplement a bit 11:41:47 -!- kilobyte_ is now known as kilobyte 11:45:26 !tell everyone !tell works 11:45:26 wensley: OK, I'll let everyone know. 11:46:14 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:44 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Nine out of ten l33t h4x0rz prefer it] 11:49:33 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 12:01:10 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:05:54 -!- MPR has quit [Changing host] 12:06:33 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:06:52 _dd: I love lugonu's corruption ability tile 12:07:04 <_dd> thanks 12:07:27 <_dd> tbh i just took the lugonu altar and erased most of the altar... 12:12:24 -!- Keratin has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:15:11 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:30 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:16:58 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:40 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:20:11 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:16 -!- rahulc has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:55 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:29:35 -!- RollieTG has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 12:32:26 -!- frogbotherer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:37:22 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:37:36 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:36 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:53 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:47:14 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:00:38 03edlothiol * r225e6d958a48 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/process_handler.py: Fix an error in Webtiles. 13:00:38 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.11 * r145429fe11b8 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/process_handler.py: Fix an error in Webtiles. 13:00:41 -!- MPR has quit [] 13:07:10 -!- domi is now known as domi_ 13:08:24 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:36 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:21:09 -!- Rebthor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 13:26:11 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 13:26:20 -!- rahulc has left ##crawl-dev 13:31:41 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:31:44 -!- SteampunkDuck has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:34:10 -!- Thann has joined ##crawl-dev 13:36:38 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 13:40:35 -!- adamorjames has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:59:20 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 14:10:54 |amethyst: so is debootstrap like a super-chroot 14:13:22 it makes a chroot for you 14:13:26 with a full debian system inside 14:13:35 it is very useful 14:13:41 ps i am |amethyst 14:13:46 was thinking about reinstalling the henzell bot into this thing, since this server is just full of crap 14:13:51 elliott: no way 14:14:22 it is true 14:14:34 elliott: tell me something that only |amethyst would know 14:17:41 -!- Rewans has quit [] 14:20:50 |amethyst: what's something only you know 14:21:10 -!- g057721 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 14:23:14 -!- ZRN has quit [] 14:25:17 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:50 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:32:09 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:39:07 wensley: debootstrap is something to create a base Debian system, no more, no less. You need to actually put it somewhere then -- be it on live metal, a chroot, a vserver, a lxc container, etc. 14:39:35 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:39:54 so in your case it doesn't give you more than a chroot (since you'd use a chroot after all) 14:41:10 I basically just want to be able to stick wenzell somewhere self-contained, so that I can putz up the rest of my system without worrying about it 14:41:17 and vice versa 14:43:06 a bare chroot is somewhat more secure, but then, contrary to a public misconception, chroots were never supposed to be a security feature anyway 14:43:34 it's not so much security I care about as separation of concerns 14:43:40 bots go over here, webservers go over here, etc 14:43:54 I don't care how redundant it is 14:43:55 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:18 03kilobyte * r42a4e95396d9 10/crawl-ref/source/ (tileweb-text.cc unicode.cc unicode.h): Death to std::wstringstream! 14:44:27 03kilobyte * rafdc8f4ecd3d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (unicode.cc unicode.h): Eradicate remaining uses of std::wstring on non-Windows. 14:44:28 03kilobyte * rc29097283392 10/crawl-ref/source/unicode.cc: Don't pointlessly define utf8_to_16() on non-Windows. 14:44:48 ah, right 14:44:54 I love vserver, though 14:45:28 ie, anything that lxc can do, plus security 14:45:53 worse than xen there, but hugely more memory efficient 14:50:11 03CommanderC * r190f7cb64b4c 10/crawl-ref/source/shout.cc: Monsters with M_BLOOD_SCENT can smell blood regardless of the player's race. 14:51:44 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:04 -!- Icehawk78 has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:54:42 wensley: debootstrap is essentially a convenience program for setting up a chroot with debian in it, really -- you don't gain anything over the weak isolation a chroot gives you, but that's very often exactly what you want 14:55:41 elliott: so would you recommend reinstalling wenzell into this debootstrapped thing I just made 14:55:46 or should I use something more lightweight 14:56:20 wensley: i wouldn't bother doing your own dependency-tracing and setting up a minimal chroot, no... not worth it for anything you're not doing for security (and using chroots for security is dubious anyway) 14:56:26 debootstrap is absolutely fine for just isolating some mess away 14:56:44 coolcool 14:56:46 thanks guys 14:59:34 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:07:45 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 15:08:20 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:17 -!- Pengu has quit [Client Quit] 15:16:42 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 15:19:14 -!- RollieTG has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:22:07 -!- PollyEsther has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:23:29 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:28:03 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 15:28:58 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:34 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:36:20 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 15:37:20 -!- BlackSheep has joined ##crawl-dev 15:37:35 -!- Chish has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:43:48 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:53 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:57:18 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:58:18 -!- Pthing has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:59:54 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:04:26 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:04:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:09:12 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:06 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 16:17:49 -!- artnam has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:20:00 -!- CaptainPickles has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:30:12 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 16:31:40 -!- Lilli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 16:32:18 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 16:39:18 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:43:18 -!- hagb4rd has quit [Quit: hagb4rd] 16:54:16 -!- magistern has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:55:33 -!- BlackSheep has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:56:16 -!- scummos has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57:14 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:57:26 -!- ketsa_ is now known as ketsa 17:02:38 -!- BoredOne has quit [Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~] 17:04:54 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:16 -!- ho has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:19 -!- NeremWorld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:12:59 could that sacrifice prompt perhaps also take 'p' as 'yes'? it's annoying the hell out of me 17:13:34 -!- chewymouse has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:15:18 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:52 -!- wensley is now known as henzell 17:17:53 -!- RollieTG has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:20 galehar posted on the tavern that the prompt was just a quick fix, so it doesn't look like it's going to last long 17:18:34 or at least, not the way it is forced upon you currently 17:21:07 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:23:31 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:26:22 03edlothiol * r7c20da92a6cf 10/crawl-ref/source/ (27 files in 4 dirs): dd's axe tiles (#5728). 17:26:33 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.11 * r05b8ca0dae46 10/crawl-ref/source/ (27 files in 4 dirs): dd's axe tiles (#5728). 17:26:45 -!- oginbogin has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:36:08 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:36:41 -!- henzell is now known as Wensley 17:37:26 -!- Chapayev has quit [Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)] 17:41:45 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 17:42:13 -!- ketsa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:49:11 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:51:15 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:54:23 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:56:09 -!- stuk_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:02:41 -!- Stelpa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:08:27 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:11:24 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:30 03CommanderC 07stone_soup-0.11 * ra746768dddd1 10/crawl-ref/source/shout.cc: Monsters with M_BLOOD_SCENT can smell blood regardless of the player's race. 18:16:41 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:16:46 -!- NotWensley is now known as Wenzell 18:19:13 -!- blackcustard has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:19:14 -!- Wenzell is now known as NotWenzell 18:19:26 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 18:22:21 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:24:43 -!- Misder has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:25:06 -!- otto_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:29:13 -!- Mel is now known as Guest12174 18:29:57 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:30:18 -!- MorganL has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 18:34:39 -!- morduin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35:04 -!- ZRN has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:39:37 -!- ZRN_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:40:09 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:44:13 -!- Ruski has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:55:48 -!- Stelpa_ is now known as Stelpa 18:56:03 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 18:56:06 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.6 sic populo comunicated] 18:59:35 -!- Morphy_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:00:59 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:31 -!- Chozo has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 4.0b12pre/20110203165105]] 19:06:59 s!seen Grunt 19:07:02 !seen Grunt 19:07:02 I last saw Grunt at Sun Aug 12 23:39:02 2012 UTC (28m ago) saying ??vault guard[2] on ##crawl. 19:07:16 Grunt: I really like your approach on the summoning threaf. 19:07:24 late here, more tomorrow 19:07:50 dpeg: hi, and thanks :) 19:08:15 I have some code for it if you want to see for yourself how it works in person, but that can wait until tomorrow. 19:08:24 s/in person/in the game/ 19:08:26 will comment on it later :) 19:09:36 -!- adamorjames has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:26:46 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:27:18 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 19:29:08 -!- ZRN has quit [] 19:31:56 -!- bonghitz has quit [Client Quit] 19:32:14 -!- alefury has quit [] 19:37:39 -!- SurpriseTRex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:38:13 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 19:38:58 -!- BlackSheep has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:00 -!- BlackSheep-taver has joined ##crawl-dev 19:39:10 Someone found a minor bug in the behavior. You cannot use abilities from the menu, regardless of using ! to switch the "mode". 19:39:13 -!- BlackSheep has quit [Client Quit] 19:40:26 -!- BlackSheep-taver has quit [Client Quit] 19:40:54 -!- BlackSheep has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:16 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:42:48 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:51:25 -!- imantor has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:53:17 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:54:05 -!- johnny0 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:43 -!- owc has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:59:13 -!- User82 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:59:25 -!- Lukan has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:00:57 -!- Aryth1 has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:01:09 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:07:14 -!- ohhaycutie has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:11:25 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:33 -!- User82 has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 20:12:37 -!- unknownuser is now known as Guest56099 20:12:57 -!- Ifxv has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:15:13 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:15:53 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 20:16:23 03Grunt * r963d729fdd72 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc menu.cc menu.h): Get ability menu to once again handle doing and describing abilities. 20:16:34 03Grunt 07stone_soup-0.11 * rf808bbf8610e 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc menu.cc menu.h): Get ability menu to once again handle doing and describing abilities. 20:17:11 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:18:50 Grunt is best unt 20:19:06 I can't believe nobody noticed that, least of all me. >:| 20:19:16 This is what I get for doing major interface tweaks just before branch time... 20:19:27 Yes, that is probably true. 20:19:33 But it was caught and you fixed it. 20:21:37 -!- ac13 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:24:12 <|amethyst> woot! got webtiles running in the chroot, and game sharing (including viewing webtiles games from dgl and vice versa)---many thanks to edlothiol 20:24:20 |amethyst, \o/ 20:32:48 |amethyst: I didn't know everything was all prepped for that 20:33:01 does that mean it'll be possible to make fun of webtiles games with a reasonable interface soon? :P 20:35:44 <|amethyst> sadly, chatting between webtiles and console doesn't work 20:35:55 <|amethyst> fails silently in fact 20:36:18 all we need is console to console chat while watching the webtiles game 20:36:37 (would those messages show up in the morgue/dump then?) 20:36:41 webtiles players will be able to speak to console players if they use ':' 20:36:47 <|amethyst> well, not entirely fails: if a webtiles user types something into a console game, it goes into the notes as usual---there's just no notification 20:36:49 although, thats awkward when you also have a chat box 20:37:39 well, an improved chat interface for console might also help fixing this~ :) 20:37:48 just use irc 20:38:36 console's chat interface is pretty good, (Hit _) just needs to be more annoying 20:38:50 you just need to put a force_more on it 20:39:00 oh, I have no problem noticing it 20:39:05 it's everyone else 20:39:07 I think what I use is "force_more = pager" 20:39:17 which the servers should probably add to the default config file 20:39:19 a force_more would be a good defaults change imo 20:39:36 I'd probably turn it off because it's extra keypresses and I notice the notification anyway though 20:39:39 I dont think the downloadable version of crawl should have that, this is something the servers should set 20:39:46 Hit _ could use an elemental color that makes it flash 20:40:16 not like people see (Hit _) a lot with the downloadable version, do they? 20:40:16 being able to ignore it is a good thing actually. If someone tries to spam you or is just annoying, you don't want some dumb flashy colour 20:40:40 maybe it could be elemental for N turns after a message is sent and then subdue... or something 20:41:46 could just make it lightred or something 20:42:08 that way you also wouldn't potentially run into the problem where some interface elements can't handle elemental colours so they become green 20:43:23 i'm not sure people who just don't notice (Hit _) at all would notice it just by changing the colour... but blue is probably not the best colour anyway 20:45:25 could also make the screen flash (a la orefrig) on sending the pager message (so it'd only happen on the first message, so you can still ignore spam and not get tons of flashes) 20:45:35 but that might be too annoying for people who actually check their mail 20:46:01 that sounds awful 20:46:08 ye 20:46:09 force_more isn't that annoying, unless you get someone particularly chatty. I just tell them to shut up when that happens, it works :P 20:46:35 and I've noticed that people who have that tend not to miss messages 20:47:28 I have to admit - the cross-spectating is pretty cool. 20:47:28 :) 20:47:29 I use a force_more too and I like it 20:47:30 i think a foce_more helps, but am a bit afraid that i need to hit two keys to actually read the message 20:47:56 i would certainly disable or not enable it, but that's also not the problem we want to solve :) 20:47:57 arguably it should just be a force_more and then show the messages with no intermediate step. but that does exacerbate the problem if someone is spamming 20:48:11 indeed 20:48:18 (but then the force_mores on your pager going off would be pretty annoying by themselves anyway) 20:48:33 not really 20:48:53 since it only sends the "pager" message on the first message you get 20:48:58 mm 20:49:03 so if you ignore that then you won't get any more --more--s 20:58:39 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 20:59:08 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 20:59:33 -!- Staplefun has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:59:37 -!- ajikeshi_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:03:52 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:05:07 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:14:35 -!- adamorjames has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 21:17:59 -!- Daekdroom has quit [Quit: Saindo] 21:19:13 -!- Guest12174 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:21:15 -!- BlackSheep has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:25:03 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:25:11 -!- NotWenzell is now known as Wenzell 21:26:49 -!- dingdong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:28:36 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:33:07 -!- SaintGutFree has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:36:10 -!- Wenzell is now known as NotWenzell 21:36:54 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:37:07 -!- pelotron has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 21:40:29 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 21:41:54 -!- Codrus has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 21:42:35 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:42:52 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:44:12 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:44:25 -!- NotWenzell is now known as Wenzell 21:45:37 -!- Wenzell is now known as NotWenzell 21:46:11 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:47:39 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:49:33 hmm, looks like the only action you can take in the abilities menu on trunk is to describe -- can neither invoke from the menu nor adjust the letters 21:49:49 was fixed 21:50:17 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:50:17 whoops, just saw the commit note -- thanks 21:50:34 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:51:12 Sorry about that, johnny0 :| 21:52:17 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:52:38 Hi Sizzell! 21:52:42 Test message 21:59:54 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:00:31 So evilmike, to the best of my knowledge (and a test just carried out), L{FLOOR|ROCK}{COL|TILE} can be set in extra vaults, so we could reasonably safely change the Zot colours to extra vaults to allow them to use different layouts. 22:00:41 (by them, I mean Zot:1-4) 22:00:57 Something to think about when we're ready to start making major 0.12 changes. 22:01:01 Stable (0.11) branch on crawl.s-z.org updated to: 0.11-b1-8-gf808bbf 22:01:14 that seems like a good change 22:02:14 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:16 I'm experimenting with it right now, and the only other thing we'd really need to tune would be the layouts it uses (e.g. disabling the city layouts, which look silly), and possibly tweaking the ones we want it to use (e.g. disabling non-rock walls for the loops layouts in Zot). 22:02:25 btw, that error you found in infiniplex's subvaults wasn't the only instance of wax 22:02:40 Yeah, I'm scratching my head over where else it could be. 22:02:45 there seems to be one other (but it's rare enough that I could run place-population.lua a second time 22:02:55 so my guess is it's hidden in a SUBST line or something 22:02:56 I don't think my checker turned up anything else. 22:03:20 Maybe I need to run it a few times... 22:03:32 would your validtator catch something like "SUBST: x = xxxxxxxxxxa" ? 22:03:32 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:39 Incidentally, there's a wax wall in test.des :P 22:03:44 heh 22:03:45 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:56 -!- DracoOmega has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:07 I think if stuff from test.des showed up in game, that would be an even bigger error 22:04:15 -!- Senri has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:05:08 -!- Dixie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05:12 If you're interested in the wax checker, http://pastebin.com/9i1HqrPY 22:05:20 It's not very elegant, but it does the job. 22:07:12 oh, actually, I'm stupid 22:07:16 ? 22:07:43 when I fixed that line, I didn't commit it, so when I checked out the branch I made it got reset to the original buggy version 22:07:57 so yeah, that's probably the only buggy line, sorry 22:08:12 No, I think there's another buggy line. 22:08:16 Unless... 22:08:58 Yeah, even with the fix I mentioned, there's another ice cave crash somewhere. 22:09:00 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:08 -!- Guest56099 is now known as UnknownUser 22:09:08 The checker's not detecting it, so it's probably a SUBST: of some sort. 22:09:16 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:27 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:10:26 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:40 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:11:11 you mean in the ice cave entries infiniplex made, or ice caves in general? 22:11:20 ... 22:11:23 I meant wax wall crash. 22:11:34 I must have been reading something about ice caves <_< 22:11:40 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 22:15:07 -!- localhost has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:15:56 i was considering saying something about wax walls in ice cave entry vaults being a weird choice 22:18:53 I'm going to try a different approach for finding this wax... 22:19:29 -!- NotWenzell has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:20:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 22:21:31 brute force it by generating like 2000 levels? :P 22:21:55 the new layout takes a while, but it will probably crash before it finishes, so there's that 22:22:28 Yes and no. 22:22:40 I disabled the crash-on-wax and told it to give me coordinates as to where the wax is. 22:26:12 OH. 22:26:20 That's... hilarious. 22:26:32 The problematic vault is vaults_room_7_dead_end_dangerous_quarters. 22:26:41 Squint at it for a while and see if you can figure out what's broken. :) 22:27:51 aaaaaaa 22:28:00 subst("D : vaults_door_7") 22:28:42 Pretty funny, no? 22:28:48 I guess that line is meant to be subvault("D : vaults_door_7") 22:30:01 Yes. 22:30:03 that explains why it was so rare, only one of those letters is made of wax 22:31:24 -!- elliott has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:31:35 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 22:31:51 -!- Escalator has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:32:10 -!- _dd has joined ##crawl-dev 22:32:13 -!- __jpmorgan has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 22:32:40 -!- jbud has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:33:02 -!- xnavy has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:35:15 -!- __jpmorgan has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:29 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:38:14 -!- Rewans has quit [] 22:58:10 So |amethyst, when will you put together the pull request for cszo to be handled by Sequell? :b 23:00:14 -!- Rebthor has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:02:50 -!- Squolly has quit [Quit: reboot] 23:04:05 Debian builds of pre-release branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-b1-8-gf808bbf 23:12:07 -!- Chozo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:12:09 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:12:31 -!- elliptic has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:14:42 -!- Vizer has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 23:15:49 -!- Stiff has quit [Client Quit] 23:16:29 -!- Vizer_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:20:18 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:39 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:00 -!- Kalir has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:26:07 -!- HellTiger has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:26:55 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 23:27:06 -!- st_ has quit [] 23:30:55 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:34:21 -!- Sizzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34:34 -!- Sizzell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:05 -!- Thann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40:43 -!- Turgor has quit [] 23:53:05 -!- Wenzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:53:17 -!- Wenzell has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:27 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 23:55:47 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56:05 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:59:19 Here's another, cleaner attempt at the primary vault layouts thing (attn evilmike): http://pastebin.com/zkPkZZsj 23:59:25 * Grunt goes to sleep.