00:01:35 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3041-g87e4f79 (33) 00:02:00 -!- simmarine has quit [Quit: bye] 00:02:48 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:07:05 Sprite for large door mimics are bad (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5994) by infiniplex 00:07:35 -!- syraine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:09:59 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3041-g87e4f79 00:10:29 -!- syraine has quit [Client Quit] 00:11:44 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:13:11 I'm having trouble placing items 00:13:18 NSUBST: abcdeghjk = 2:A / 1:1 / 5:X / 10:Y 00:13:23 KITEM: A = w:5 * / w:1 | 00:13:38 shouldn't that give me some mixture of two good/excellent items? 00:13:46 -!- Nomi has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 00:14:11 -!- Vbitz has quit [Quit: Vbitz] 00:19:34 <|amethyst> bmh: you need an item name, not a glyph, with KITEM 00:19:50 ah. 00:20:01 <|amethyst> maybe something like KITEM: A = w:5 any good_item / w:1 any superb_item 00:20:12 I can do it with glyphs 00:20:26 <|amethyst> yeah, that works too :) 00:20:59 -!- namad7 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 00:21:00 <|amethyst> with a subst or something 00:25:58 |amethyst: What's a reasonable amount of loot to put behind a guardian mummy and up to three ghouls? 00:26:09 presume it'll be around XL14 00:26:33 3 ghouls would be pretty nasty at that point 00:26:46 (Much nastier than the mummy, certainly) 00:27:40 DracoOmega: I'll make that very unlikely 00:27:50 <|amethyst> @??ghoul 00:27:50 ghoul (05n) | Spd: 10 | HD: 14 | HP: 127-165 | AC/EV: 4/10 | Dam: 3004(rot), 3004(rot) | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, 04eats corpses, evil | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 04rot | XP: 2431 | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 00:28:05 <|amethyst> @??guardian mummy 00:28:06 guardian mummy (08M) | Spd: 9 | HD: 7 | HP: 36-56 | AC/EV: 6/9 | Dam: 30 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(46), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 367 | Sz: Large | Int: normal. 00:28:14 er... mummy priest 00:28:19 @??mummy priest 00:28:19 mummy priest (05M) | Spd: 8 | HD: 10 | HP: 55-76 | AC/EV: 8/7 | Dam: 30 | 07undead, 10weapons, 10items, 10doors, evil, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1389 | Sp: demon, smiting (7-17), torment symbol, summon undead | Sz: Medium | Int: high. 00:28:34 <|amethyst> ghoul is still nearly twice the XP 00:29:01 that only warrants a small amount of loot, in my opinion 00:29:14 Also, putting aside the issues of them being outside Crypt in the first place, they'll be more dangerous there 00:29:39 you can use more loot if you use a mummy priest, those are more dangerous than guardian mummies 00:29:42 DracoOmega: do you want an undead pirate ship or not? 00:29:50 I'm neutral 00:30:22 <|amethyst> bmh: and the spectral kraken that sank it? :) 00:30:33 It does slightly feel like these are the wrong undead for that, though, in my personal opinion 00:30:33 |amethyst: will that even work? 00:31:06 I'm not sure how you'd convey that it's a pirate ship, without renaming monsters. And I don't like it when vaults rename monsters for purely cosmetic reasons 00:31:08 DracoOmega: What do you think would be better? spectral octopodes? 00:31:50 for example, there's one vault which has an "orc demonologist" that is _exactly_ the same as an orc sorcerer in stats and spells 00:32:08 There is? Yeah, I agree with the sentiment there 00:32:15 Why not give him different spells? 00:32:17 pirate captain unique 00:32:59 If they're named different, they should be different in some substantive way 00:33:38 Incidentally, I sort of feel that if it's a pirate ship vault, it should have at least some chance of the leader being armed with the captain's cutlass 00:33:40 <|amethyst> bmh: spectral kraken seems to work 00:33:56 However small you feel that needs to be 00:34:12 <|amethyst> it even fits the description of the weapon 00:34:15 Exactly 00:34:39 <|amethyst> Finally, he met his destiny when a kraken swallowed his ship with 00:34:41 <|amethyst> all the crew aboard. 00:34:56 it would make sense to place that unrand, yeah 00:35:07 lots of other unrands get their own vaults 00:35:24 <|amethyst> I'd like to see an octopus king vault :) 00:35:27 Maybe make the crew spectral humans, and make the captain a skeletal warrior buffed in some fashion? 00:35:41 With the kraken still lurking around, of course 00:35:58 <|amethyst> would any custom spells make sense? 00:36:06 <|amethyst> I mean, new spells 00:36:43 I can't think of any spells that would really make sense 00:36:47 <|amethyst> gold-stealing fits but is bad for gameplay reasons 00:36:47 What, like new code-wise? 00:36:57 |amethyst: I'll put one elsewhere 00:37:00 as for spectral humans, that sounds weak to me. You want to place this in shoals, right? A spectral human will be a pushover 00:37:33 evilmike: spectral merfolk impalers? Merfolks might have ships. Get them places faster 00:37:33 Well, I suppose I was sort of thinking that the captain and the kraken were the main attractions, and they were cannon fodder, but it really depends on the layout of the vault I suppose 00:38:10 DracoOmega: I was thinking small -- https://gist.github.com/3204275 00:38:14 bmh: I think you can only have the base monster being spectral... but I haven't checked 00:38:39 fr buff spectral monsters 00:38:49 with death channel at least, you only get the base monster. eg a deep elf conjurer just gets you a spectral elf 00:38:59 "unknown monster: "spectral merfolk impaler"" 00:39:02 <|amethyst> yeah 00:39:12 @??spectral merfolk 00:39:13 spectral merfolk (03W) | Spd: 8 | HD: 9 | HP: 42-67 | AC/EV: 6/7 | Dam: 14 | 07undead, evil, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 211 | Sz: Medium | Int: plant. 00:39:21 that's pretty wussy 00:39:22 I personally don't think the crew should be merfolk. I feel it clashes a little with the urand description 00:39:50 <|amethyst> merfolks on ships is silly 00:40:06 <|amethyst> if they did have a ship, it would be the yellow submarine that crashed in the octopus's garden :P 00:40:10 Hahaha 00:40:29 DracoOmega: which urand? 00:40:46 the only undead I can think of that would actually work are skeletal warriors 00:40:54 other undeads fly, or cast spells, or are utter pushovers 00:41:00 bmh: The captain's cutlass 00:41:16 ??cutlass 00:41:16 I don't have a page labeled cutlass in my learndb. 00:41:23 ??captain's cutlass 00:41:23 captains cutlass[1/1]: An unrandart short blade of speed. In 0.10+, has a custom base weapon: Dam 9, Acc +3, Delay 12. Minimum delay is reached at the same point as a sabre. 00:41:30 <|amethyst> DracoOmega: it doesn't specify human 00:41:43 if you want to give one of them the captain's cutlass, you could call it a "skeletal captain" or something, and leave the rest as unmodified skeletal warriors 00:41:58 I think that would get the point across that it's a pirate ship, without unnecessary renaming 00:42:08 -!- residualshade has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:43:00 <|amethyst> fr: one of them gets a crossbow and amulet of the Albatross 00:43:09 Crossbows in general might work, though 00:43:20 For a couple of them 00:43:30 I mean, in lieu of pistols or whatnot 00:43:48 <|amethyst> RotAM specifically mentions crossbows 00:44:04 I assumed it might have, from what you said 00:44:09 I have not actually read it 00:44:23 where is the cutlass defined? I can't give it to a monster 00:44:42 <|amethyst> it's not a base weapon type 00:44:53 It only exists for that artifcat 00:44:57 <|amethyst> it's a sabre with modified base stats 00:45:13 bmh read syntax.txt 00:45:21 the syntax for placing unrands is a little odd 00:45:22 <|amethyst> yeah, which you can't do other than the artefact 00:45:26 <|amethyst> oh 00:45:44 evilmike: yucky 00:46:12 <|amethyst> blah ; unrand:captains_cutlass sabre 00:46:25 <|amethyst> (or "sabre" can come before "unrand:") 00:46:44 <|amethyst> sabres or falchions would work for the others 00:46:51 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.6 sic populo comunicated] 00:46:55 |amethyst: apart from falchions being awful :) 00:47:31 because of how monster damage works, if the base monster is sufficiently strong (and skeletal warriors are), it will still do decent melee damage 00:47:45 Yeah, the difference will be fairly slight 00:47:59 And honestly, the danger factor of them having worse melee weapons could easily be made up by a couple crossbows, I figure 00:48:11 Particularly if the initial encounter area is slightly open 00:49:06 I think I'll change it from one big ship. I can make tiny boats using the tide 00:49:20 conveying that this is a wrecked ship seems like it would be tricky. Renaming walls is possible now, so you could take advantage of that (and get new tiles for the wood walls/floor) 00:49:39 and write a desc saying the wood is damp, to explain why it doesn't burn :P 00:51:48 <|amethyst> I think a ship works better than boats 00:51:56 I agree 00:52:07 <|amethyst> maybe have the water tiles somewhat more scattered 00:52:18 an ASCII boat is a tough draw :) 00:52:19 <|amethyst> to represent holes in the deck 00:52:22 a shipwreck makes a lot more sense, yes 00:52:25 And leave a hole or two in the exterior wall 00:52:31 Maybe 00:52:34 I could put the boat on its side 00:52:59 <|amethyst> I think that would be too unrecognisable 00:53:01 <|amethyst> You did at least put the door at port :) 00:53:55 just draw a vague boat shape and leave the rest up to tiles/descriptions. That's about the best you can do 00:54:10 -!- knonme has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:54:30 <|amethyst> I think the current overall shape is fine 00:54:38 <|amethyst> maybe a retiled wall crossing part of the ship representing the fallen mast 00:54:48 oh, I didn't see the example linked 00:54:59 <|amethyst> https://gist.github.com/3204275 00:55:15 you'll want no_hmirror on that 00:55:28 <|amethyst> yeah, so the door stays at port :) 00:55:34 dorks :) 00:55:35 <|amethyst> no_vmirror for the same reason 00:55:40 <|amethyst> rotate would be fine though 00:56:26 oh. I can put a statue on the prow :) 00:57:17 <|amethyst> and now I have "Friggin' in the Riggin'" stuck in my head 00:57:55 <|amethyst> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Ship_Venus 00:58:02 that sounds like porn. 00:58:07 -!- Deathmic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:58:12 <|amethyst> "bawdy drinking song" 00:58:32 huh. some friends of mine were in a pirate acapella group and they didn't sing that one 00:58:36 I'd advise against a statue... these are assumed to be rooted to the ground 00:59:17 Is that a mechanical problem here somehow? 01:01:05 a statue is made of stone and placed on the ground. A ship's figurehead is carved of wood and attached to the prow 01:01:30 it would just look and behave weirdly. Especailly in tiles, unless you want to make 4 versions of the tile so it can be rotated 01:01:32 I could use 8 and re descript it into a figurehead. Not that I want to 01:03:22 <|amethyst> does veto_fragmentation prevent even targetting the object, or just its destruction? 01:04:42 Well, I would think that LRD would logically work on wood 01:04:49 Though the message for it would be wrong in this case, of course 01:04:50 <|amethyst> doesn't work on trees 01:05:00 Does it work on wooden golems? 01:05:27 Yeah, it does 01:05:33 <|amethyst> hm 01:05:51 (And toenail golems, for that matter) 01:06:16 <|amethyst> that should be reconciled one way or the other 01:07:25 Maybe trees are simply too big to deconstruct? Though you seem to manage on large chunks of wall, so I don't know 01:07:50 Trees work sort of oddly in some other ways, I think 01:08:24 Like, an orb of destruction hits with enough blasting force to take down solid walls, but not so much as dent a tree? 01:08:39 (At least, I don't think they do) 01:09:56 also, you can't use Conjure Flame on them 01:10:10 Well, you can't use conjure flame under anything 01:10:32 So I suppose it works in the sense that the tree is physically occupying the space you're try to conjure the flame at 01:11:26 Wait, it seems orbs DO take them down 01:11:32 I could have sworn they didn't 01:11:40 <|amethyst> err 01:11:41 Nevermind that 01:11:46 <|amethyst> you can conjure flame under a tree 01:11:50 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 01:11:51 You can? 01:12:05 Wow, so you can 01:12:15 |amethyst: veto_fragmentation blocks LRD, last time I checked you get a failure message if you target it 01:12:25 I don't know if that wastes a turn or not 01:13:35 that conjure flame thing should probably be removed, it's inconsistent with how the spell normally works 01:13:43 Yeah, I would have assumed it would not work 01:13:47 <|amethyst> hm 01:14:12 <|amethyst> it does let early DEFEs get into the vehumet tree vault 01:14:17 <|amethyst> s/DE// 01:14:19 Though I wonder if there's any harm in letting LRD work on trees? To me, it sort of makes sense that it would, and blasts of splinters are already coded as weaker than other things 01:14:29 the spell requires the targeted cell to be open... if a monster counts as blocking it, a tree should count 01:15:14 especially bad, is plants and bushes block conjure flame, but trees do not 01:15:38 <|amethyst> %git 8092dc6 01:15:39 kilobyte * 0.10-a0-1420-g8092dc6: Allow Conjure Flame to burn down trees. (9 months ago, 1 file, 15+ 2-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/8092dc659f02 01:17:01 hmm... how about a lone elf (of the casty sort) trapped on an island? 01:17:02 -!- mikee_ is now known as michel_dupont 01:18:27 if the goal is to let fire elementalists burn trees, then let sticky flame work on them 01:21:52 <|amethyst> that's not unreasonable 01:23:23 -!- michel_dupont is now known as mikee_ 01:28:18 Is placing elves outside of the halls a no-no? 01:28:39 They show up in quite a few other places 01:29:02 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:29:26 They may actually be among the more popular monsters to have vaults place outside their 'home', though I could be wrong on this 01:29:33 shoals makes no sense -- shouldn't Shoals 5 be full of water? :) 01:29:36 elf bands can spawn in D and Vaults 01:29:43 Also that 01:29:49 also the conjure flame thing is bad because it is a really low-level way of burning down forests 01:29:56 FE can use fireball 01:30:08 And Shoals only makes no sense if you try to think about it 01:30:22 the stairs are magic 01:30:25 <|amethyst> elliptic: that is true 01:30:33 it's a sandwich 01:30:35 -!- mikee_ is now known as michel_dupont 01:30:36 Magic stairs. I'll buy that. 01:30:46 evilmike: true'dat. The monsters don't follow you unless they're standing next to you! 01:30:50 like, conjure flame is probably worth learning on most characters with 0 skill just for burning down lair:8 forests 01:31:23 <|amethyst> elliptic: and making the distinction "flame" vs "fire" would be easier to explain 01:31:49 <|amethyst> might want to ask kilobyte about the reasoning behind 8092dc6 01:31:59 Well, I think the problem is casting it under a solid object (when no other ones work), rather than the flame cloud not being hot enough 01:32:07 btw, can we have fedhas protect trees from your spells? 01:32:16 Doesn't he? 01:32:18 no 01:32:22 just plants 01:32:26 Oh, trees 01:32:27 (and fungi etc) 01:32:31 Oops 01:32:37 That makes sense 01:32:39 -!- michel_dupont is now known as mikee_ 01:32:44 what about animated tree allies 01:32:56 One of my first real Fedhas games, I got tornado just before doing the Crypt:5 forest 01:33:01 Only to discover I couldn't USE it there 01:33:21 |amethyst: this was discussed several months ago... I think maybe he said it was "realistic" 01:33:47 I think it's realistic that flame clouds can burn down trees, but not realistic that this particular spell can place one there 01:33:48 DracoOmega: my experience involved starting a forest fire with a lightning bounce 01:33:57 with no warnings, losing quite a bit of piety 01:33:57 Oh dear, that's even worse 01:35:15 I mean, that bounce thing could even happen for stuff out of LoS that you had no way of knowing was even there (was that the case in this case?) 01:35:35 I forget 01:35:51 but I sort of expected fedhas to protect me from it anyway :P 01:35:57 Yeah. It would make sense. 01:36:38 Though it would outright prevent you from getting through certain vaults 01:36:43 Short of cTele, I suppose 01:38:05 |amethyst : the error was being thrown because _autopickup_item_name tries to see if its edible, I think I have a good solution, ill throw a patch up, after I resolve the _known_subtype naming issue. 01:39:28 <|amethyst> Thann: cool... might not get a chance to look at it until Tuesday, but I think it should go in 0.11... I have kind of a loose definition of "bug fix" :) 01:39:40 hah 01:39:45 awesome 01:40:31 I have been really busy but I'm trying to get this perfect for 0.11 01:41:15 anyway I'm at a loss for naming ideas 01:43:32 <|amethyst> hm 01:43:49 _known_specific_subtype? 01:44:57 https://gist.github.com/3205383 -- not a terribly exciting vault 01:45:06 It's shaped like wake island and has an elf. 01:45:07 <|amethyst> maybe two functions, _known_subtype (which has the old behaviour) and _uses_generic_autopickup (to force using get_max_subtype() even if the type is known) 01:45:49 <|amethyst> then it would be _known_subtype(item) && !_uses_generic_autopickup() ? item.sub_type : get_max_subtype(item.base_type); 01:45:56 I was thinking that, but there would be so much repeated code =/ 01:46:53 <|amethyst> repeated where? 01:47:00 <|amethyst> also, that line itself could be another function, _autopickup_subtype(const item_def &) 01:47:29 ShyGuy (L27 KoCK) ASSERT(!invalid_monster_index(mg.foe) || mg.foe == MHITYOU || mg.foe == MHITNOT) in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1676 failed. (Slime:6) 01:47:35 hahaha oh wow 01:47:36 yeah 01:48:13 uh, fire stormed the royal jelly, then xom inner flamed everything 01:48:27 <|amethyst> oh 01:48:37 <|amethyst> I think that has to do with kilobyte's recent changes to jelly spawns 01:49:53 <|amethyst> oh, I see 01:50:04 well here's trj again, let's see what happens 01:50:06 <|amethyst> because the killer is dead 01:50:36 ??shapeshifter 01:50:36 shapeshifter[1/4]: Nasty creature which tends to turn into whatever creature you are least equipped to handle. Kill quickly, or drain to death, as polymorphing heals. If you see a missile-loving monster that doesn't shoot you, it's probably a shapeshifter. 01:50:49 I hate heal on polymorph. 01:50:59 ??shapeshifter[2] 01:51:00 shapeshifter[2/4]: There are always a few in Vault:8. Specifically, next to loot. And, given time they WILL turn into azure jellies and eat your precious loot. 01:56:21 03|amethyst * reb0df776b885 10/crawl-ref/source/fineff.cc: Don't crash when a dead monster makes TRJ spawn jellies. 02:00:41 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 02:02:28 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:03:04 <|amethyst> ac13: no ctele for the rest of the game 02:03:06 <|amethyst> doh 02:05:38 -!- elliott has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:06:43 -!- ussdefiant__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:09:14 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:11:47 -!- ktgrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:12:42 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:15:08 -!- Sab0t has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:16:23 -!- ktgrey has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:18:00 -!- ussdefiant__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:37 -!- ac13 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:21:33 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:32:45 -!- KaminaSquirtle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:36:57 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:13 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 02:40:49 -!- syraine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:41:05 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:42 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:44:35 -!- Walker__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:47:28 -!- syraine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:51:13 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:00:09 -!- Video_Games has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:01:21 I'm thinking about creating an encompass vault called "the castle of Dyrovepreva". Can I make a unique named Dyrovepreva as the boss who wears his crown or would that not be good? 03:13:02 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:14:52 ^e excludes squares hidden by trees (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5995) by nubinia 03:19:50 -!- jbud has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 03:19:57 MarvinPA: actually, adding proper partial knowledge to clod targetting then would be doable, but I wanted to not complicate an already complex algorithm in the first iteration 03:20:13 also, it would take some thinking, and thinking takes effort :p 03:21:50 I just noticed there's a simpler way: doing the current algorithm twice, once assuming unknown places are floor, once assuming they're walls, and marking all differences in the result as "maybe" 03:22:05 that'd be ugly brute force, though 03:23:08 -!- Mr--Clean has quit [Quit: Mr--Clean] 03:26:28 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:09 -!- Sorbius has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 03:34:21 -!- bonghitz has quit [Quit: bonghitz] 03:35:10 Reaching to attack seems to carry on to unarmed attack too. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5996) by nubinia 03:37:01 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:47:03 DracoOmega, evilmike: there's an unused genus-only monster "ghost", we could give it actual stats 03:47:11 and have ghost pirates 03:48:09 03elliptic * r95002d4d232c 10/crawl-ref/source/food.cc: Fix typo in Hungry/Very Hungry boundary value. 03:49:26 I wonder how to make it more interesting than a phantom without blink, though? 03:51:39 cause fear 03:51:45 not sure; even without further changes it'd be no worse than spectral merfolk or skeletal warrior, though 03:51:53 (and better theme-wise) 03:51:55 This is true 03:52:08 That's sort of what I was thinking when I suggested spectral humans, theme-wise 03:52:11 BlastHardcheese: ie, making the captain an eidolon? 03:52:29 Well, that doesn't work if we want it to actually use the cutlass 03:52:34 @??eidolon 03:52:34 eidolon (15W) | Spd: 11 | HD: 13 | HP: 53-91 | AC/EV: 12/10 | Dam: 1313(drain), 1305(drain dexterity) | 07undead, 10doors, evil, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 06magic(138), 02cold, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 1369 | Sp: pain (d14), cause fear | Sz: Medium | Int: normal. 03:53:32 also, dpeg would go into a fit if we introduced pirates :p 03:53:39 Arr! 03:54:11 Haha 03:54:49 then there's Stealth 27 title... 03:55:29 Someone needs to get that title, then go take out that vault and set the record straight 03:55:46 or better, die there 03:55:50 Haha 03:56:07 Crawl has zombies too, but no robots anymore... 03:56:16 Any more? There were some at some point? 03:56:39 (Iron golems are SORT of robots, I suppose) 03:56:44 electric golems used to be guardian robots 03:56:52 Guardian robots? Really? How ancient is this? 04:02:11 3.40 had them, 4.0 betas did not 04:02:26 Oh, so really really old 04:04:35 -!- Init--WithStyle- has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:06:28 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:07:40 fr robots 04:07:54 french robots? 04:08:14 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 04:08:25 yes 04:14:18 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:18:44 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:18:53 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:18:59 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 04:19:04 -!- Why has quit [Client Quit] 04:20:22 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:29 -!- residualshade has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:30:33 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:35:04 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 04:37:14 -!- gendercop has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 04:38:53 -!- Thann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:40:31 -!- evilmike has quit [] 04:41:12 -!- Wah has quit [Quit: IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT'S BACON!] 04:43:51 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:45:04 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 04:48:36 -!- syraine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:51:57 -!- wasd has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:50 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 04:58:53 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:02 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3043-g95002d4 05:03:05 -!- scummos has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:05:30 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:08:27 -!- chewymouse has joined ##crawl-dev 05:09:24 -!- Poncheis_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 05:10:32 -!- chewymouse has quit [Client Quit] 05:14:32 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 05:14:38 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:17:00 -!- Psyknux has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:25:22 -!- scummos^ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:37:18 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:46:08 03edlothiol * r89956ef9ac09 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dngn/vaults/ (golden_statue_1.png golden_statue_2.png): New-style golden statue tiles by roctavian (#5990). 05:47:55 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 06:08:27 -!- gnsh has quit [Client Quit] 06:15:00 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:20:58 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:24:20 -!- bmfx has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:27:42 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:31:25 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:27 -!- archl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:34:36 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...] 06:37:23 -!- aleksil has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 06:42:29 -!- Livor has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]] 06:50:02 -!- Sab0t has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:55:02 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:55:03 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 07:13:08 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:13:13 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 07:15:52 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:16:06 -!- ontoclasm has joined ##crawl-dev 07:22:00 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:22:06 -!- Poncheis_ is now known as Poncheis 07:33:03 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 07:37:03 -!- marcmagus has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:51:07 -!- sdurant has quit [Client Quit] 08:15:15 -!- sdurant has quit [Client Quit] 08:16:20 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:25:06 -!- Psyknux has quit [Quit: Jackdaws love my big sphinx of quartz. 123456890] 08:29:40 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.6 sic populo comunicated] 08:32:52 * Removed monsters: Jozef, bog mummy, midge, Pit Fiend. 08:32:57 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 08:33:00 this is missing hairy devil! 08:33:18 doesn't that speak volumes 08:33:31 * Forgotten monsters 08:34:18 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:41:59 -!- CrazyJew has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:46:18 -!- voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:49:53 -!- Grildrak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:51:30 -!- inde has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:52:56 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:55:27 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:58:49 -!- mhss has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:11:53 -!- sdurant has quit [Client Quit] 09:16:04 -!- sdurant has quit [Client Quit] 09:16:40 -!- sdurant has quit [Client Quit] 09:17:24 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:19:34 -!- Nave_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:22:29 -!- inde has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 09:25:24 oh. right. haha. 09:25:42 better !tell kilobyte or evilmike 09:26:09 or anyone, really 09:29:14 killer bee larvae are also not in the removed monsters in the highlights (but under monsters) 09:34:15 03edlothiol * r70245f390fad 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Pay respects to hairy devils in the changelog. 09:36:39 -!- tJener has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:39:07 -!- Adeon_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:07 03Grunt * r592a301caf62 10/crawl-ref/source/art-func.h: Don't let the obsidian axe mesmerise towards any M_NO_EXP_GAIN monster. 09:41:19 -!- Adeon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:49:16 a twister would have been the best mesmerization target :/ 09:49:44 do sppores have that property 09:49:59 because getting mesmerized by a giant spore sounds hilarious 09:50:13 well, you can still throw a rock at it... 09:50:26 like you would do anyway 09:50:39 giant spore (03*) | Spd: 15 | HD: 1 | HP: 1 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Dam: 1 | 03plant, lev | Res: 06magic(4), 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 1 | Sz: small | Int: plant. 09:50:39 %??giant spore 09:50:51 orb of destruction (16*) | Spd: 30 | HD: 5 | HP: 1000 | AC/EV: 0/10 | 11non-living, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 08acid, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm, 04napalm++ | XP: 0 | Sz: little | Int: plant. 09:50:51 %??orb of destruction 09:51:05 seems like spores give 1 xp 09:51:20 -!- vev__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:28 it says plant, though, so maybe they cant mesmerize you 09:52:44 <3 |amethyst for including all the stuff like int and size and holiness 09:53:42 <|amethyst> holiness was already there 09:54:27 hm, IIRC it wasnt always, so i just thought you added it 10:02:52 !seen greensnark 10:02:53 I last saw greensnark at Sun Jul 29 21:40:34 2012 UTC (17h 22m 19s ago) joining the channel. 10:06:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:08:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-3046-g592a301 (33) 10:14:04 03dolorous * rd0d70fde0f1d 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Fix change log entry capitalization and punctuation. 10:15:50 -!- buppy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:16:36 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:20:08 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:20:23 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 10:28:32 -!- Adeon_ is now known as Adeon 10:39:12 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:43:28 -!- maahes has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:10:18 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 11:13:05 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:17 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:17 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 11:23:57 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:26:10 03dolorous * r1b2340578a89 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Simplify the wording of a constriction message. 11:27:03 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:58 -!- Deathmic has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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Three levels makes you completely immune. As in, it turns shadow dragons into mostly harmless kittens. Also gives partial resistance to torment (5% per level, so at life+++, torment will make you lose 35% hp, instead of 50%). 14:38:23 huh? rN+++ helps more than rN+ 14:38:33 No, I mean rF- and rF-- 14:38:36 oh 14:38:38 yes, that's true 14:38:43 I found a case where it isn't 14:38:54 You only get stream vulnerability at rF--- 14:38:57 steam* 14:39:06 that sounds rather like a bug :) 14:39:10 Due to the way it's derived from rF 14:39:31 I suspected as much, but thought I would ask 14:39:52 (I was in the process of writing a small patch to reduce confirmations for walking into steam clouds when I noticed this) 14:39:52 -!- wasd22 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:41:22 Hey elliptic, re 2068: 14:41:39 Is there a case when a monster is in LOS where the prompt appears when it shouldn't? 14:42:35 Grunt: the ogre is in sight in the example in 2068 14:42:39 not sure why you thought it isn't 14:42:41 No, it isn't. 14:42:42 and you can reproduce it 14:42:56 Why is it grayed out if it is in LOS? 14:42:59 because of targeting 14:43:05 ... 14:43:35 to reproduce this bug, the exact angles are important 14:43:43 it works fine if the ogre is directly horizontal from you 14:44:10 just make a monster, then wizmode teleport to a position (2,6) away from the monster and try 14:44:52 -!- LoknarGor has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:45:00 Yeah, I got it now. 14:45:07 That's a strange edge case (heh). 14:45:16 the issue is that (1,5) is distance 5 away from the player but (2,6) is distance 7 away 14:45:26 using the stupid circlelos metric 14:45:31 (and rounding) 14:46:12 -!- mtyson has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:46:15 I haven't looked at the code but I assume that the check for whether there is a monster within range just increases range by 1 and checks, but really the check needs to be more complicated 14:46:20 -!- mtyson_ is now known as mtyson 14:46:33 That's exactly what it does. 14:47:53 Grunt: the diagonal targetting thing mentioned in 2249 is the same effect at work 14:48:11 can I push square los to 0.11 as a bugfix for this stuff :( 14:48:44 gogogo 14:49:24 -!- Zermako has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 14:56:08 -!- syraine has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0a2/20120726042008]] 14:56:15 by the way, any thoughts about only letting vampires initiate berserk at "Alive"? 14:56:55 to stop the problem that if they are <400 points into Full then trog berserk might end instantly 14:57:01 -!- Roarke has quit [Quit: ThrashIRC v2.6 sic populo comunicated] 14:57:12 -!- Robot2600 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 15:01:02 Patch: reduce excessive confirmations for walking into steam (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5997) by DracoOmega 15:01:03 -!- s951 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:06:07 rF--- is not always functionally the same as rF- (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5998) by DracoOmega 15:12:32 -!- mtyson has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:13:27 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: 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-!- magistern_ is now known as magisnerd 17:34:30 -!- tJener has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:34:38 -!- magisnerd is now known as ophanim 17:34:41 ...hmph, FTILE doesn't seem to work at all with (up?) staircases 17:37:18 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:38:48 but it does in 0.10 bleh time for a mantis report 17:41:12 -!- Vbitz has quit [Quit: Vbitz] 17:41:56 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:44:35 -!- Morphy has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:48:20 -!- frogbotherer has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:50:16 -!- PollyEsther has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:51:50 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:51:58 -!- ark____ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:52:25 -!- erisdiscordia has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:55:04 Hey MarvinPA, that dump loading crash of yours is being caused by an integer overflow. 17:55:16 wooo 17:55:28 http://pastebin.com/kUnjFvbL 17:55:34 I don't know if I actually want to commit that or not. <_< 17:55:40 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:55:59 (int)((long)result % total) 17:56:00 D: 17:56:09 It's terrible, yes. :p 17:56:22 i mean, you define result as a long 17:56:28 i don't think you need to recast it again 17:56:28 ... 17:56:57 You can probably guess as how I approached writing this. 17:57:20 with hammer and potion of berserk rage? 17:57:21 :) 17:57:53 :D 17:58:21 ... 17:58:28 this bug is in 0.10 what the hell 17:58:37 HangedMan: ? 17:58:53 the more I test FTILE not working for upward staircases the more I want to rip my eyeballs out 17:59:45 Let's see... this is slightly less ugly: 17:59:47 http://pastebin.com/gF6NDt77 18:01:16 -!- Xiberia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:19 -!- Vbitz has joined ##crawl-dev 18:01:22 starting to think this is an old and ignored bug from jpeg_temple_alley_garden_8 18:02:10 so, thinking back to my number theory days, there should be a way to do it without the risk of int overflow, but less efficient 18:02:35 Come to think of it, I've actually come across a problem like this previously. 18:03:06 basically ((a%c)*(b%c))%c == (a*b)%c 18:03:45 -!- Aryth has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:04:40 of course, total could still overflow 18:04:45 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:05:19 but if it doesn't, then we have array[i] <= total 18:05:56 so we take scale%total and multiply that by array[i] and then mod by total again 18:06:27 Sadly, total is one of the things which is overflowing here. 18:06:28 that guarantees we don't overflow so long as total*(total-1) < INT_MAX 18:06:50 in any case it makes the code awful 18:06:53 and two divisions 18:07:10 though i'm sure there are more tricks that can be done for something like this 18:07:38 Well, I have a working (if slightly ugly) fix for it at the moment, and working-but-ugly code is better than hypothetical elegant code in my view. 18:08:02 i think my hypothetical code is uglier than yours :P 18:08:41 03frank * r90551e86189b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (hiscores.h ouch.cc): Death-curse a monster that kills the player if the player is a mummy. 18:08:41 03Grunt * rada134d4137d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (ouch.cc spl-miscast.cc): Upgrade death curse message on mummy player death to actual death curse. 18:08:41 03Grunt * rb63eec99caf0 10/crawl-ref/source/skills.cc: Fix crash on loading dumps of sufficiently skilled players. 18:09:27 <|amethyst> Grunt: err 18:09:27 <|amethyst> Grunt: how does changing 'int' to 'long' fix an integer overflow? 18:09:56 some architectures... 18:11:41 <|amethyst> doesn't we support 32-bit architectures still? 18:11:50 <|amethyst> or for that matter LLP64 ones? 18:12:54 hm, you need long long to make it an 8-byte type on 32-bit, don't you? 18:13:12 <|amethyst> that or int64_t/uint64_t, yes 18:13:28 <|amethyst> also on 64-bit Windows I thought 18:14:17 <|amethyst> I guess that's up to the compiler really... not sure about msys/mingw 18:14:32 FTILE doesn't work with upward staircases (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=6000) by Claws 18:15:28 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:16:20 -!- vev has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:21:06 -!- vev_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:21:50 -!- elliott has joined ##crawl-dev 18:24:27 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25:03 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:04 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:26:58 -!- vev__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:28:44 Ugh, I didn't mean to commit *all* of that. 18:28:57 This is what I get for committing in a hurry. 18:29:18 are you working in master branch? 18:32:27 -!- Fear has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:34:31 03Grunt * ra3558c95d803 10/crawl-ref/source/ (hiscores.h ouch.cc spl-miscast.cc): Revert player mummy death curses, which were committed by accident. 18:35:15 <|amethyst> Grunt: I think that should really be long long or uint64_t 18:36:58 -!- bonghitz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:38:26 You're probably right. I'm just used to working in 64-bit environments. :| 18:38:46 <|amethyst> in general, "don't use long" isn't bad advice :) 18:40:17 <|amethyst> of course, if you're dealing with APIs that use "long" you don't have much choice 18:40:41 Did you read the rest of the commit message? 18:40:54 "adjusts the relevant code to use longs (shudder)" 18:41:10 <|amethyst> I missed the parenthetical 18:41:26 That's the most important part! 18:41:38 <|amethyst> but the real reason to shudder is that longs don't avoid the issue :) 18:43:40 <|amethyst> not that you can rely on 'long long' to be bigger than 'int', since some archs may use 64-bit ints... but those are uncommon, and if you're only worried about overflowing 2e9 and not 9e18 it doesn't matter anyway 18:46:07 <|amethyst> I guess things like int_fast32_t and int_fast64_t are "best" in some ways, but they're very rarely used 18:47:01 -!- alefury has quit [] 18:48:36 -!- magistern has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:49:29 evilmike, *now* a quick looksee at an encompass vault? 18:49:47 I'm half wanting this just to know what you'd veto >_> 18:49:49 ok? Just give me a link to it and I'll look at it eventually 18:50:43 http://pastie.org/pastes/4362134/text 18:52:43 -!- DrCrypt has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:53:50 I don't see the point of doing "any weapon level:20" and "any armour level:10" 18:53:56 why not just give it equipment normally? 18:55:37 those weapons and armour are incidental quick stuff but fair enough, I'll just use generic stuff instead 18:56:05 you might as well. giving the item a specific level just makes the vault (very slightly) less dependent on depth 18:56:16 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:56:42 there are some uses for setting item levels, but imo it's something that should almost never be used 18:57:31 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 18:58:18 zin_angel (which uses four different angels instead of |, heh), two dwarf vaults, and deliberately extremely mediocre stuff in wizlab_golubria 18:59:36 the way the dwarf vaults are made in general is headache inducting anyway 19:00:23 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:00:35 I don't understand the reason for this: table.insert(kmonsters, hangedman_spin_cycle_band(mons, weight)) 19:00:40 when the function being called is just 19:00:41 : function hangedman_spin_cycle_band(mons, weight) 19:00:41 : return "" .. mons .. " band w:" .. weight 19:00:41 : end 19:01:39 somebody else wrote most of that lua chunk rather quickly, I presume it can be cleaned up 19:02:31 -!- Vbitz has quit [Quit: Vbitz] 19:05:37 why the specific randart ring types? If you want to give a randart, that's fine, but couldn't you just do "any jewellery randart"? 19:06:09 you can get amulets from that, but I doubt it makes a big difference 19:06:36 same goes with the other line which has an oddly specific list of rings 19:06:40 kind of preferred only rings over amulets 19:08:02 not much of a gain from using solely rings here though, so 19:08:43 then make placing "any ring" work, and use that... having an oddly specific list of items is the wrong way to do this. It's not a large spoiler, but it's still a spoiler (and a totally unnecessary one) 19:08:47 evilmike: the function was to avoid going over 80 columns... it is a little silly, admittedly :p 19:09:15 elliott: "hangedman_spin_cycle_band(mons, weight)" is more characters than "" .. mons .. " band w:" .. weight 19:09:28 hmm... I think it was fewer characters originally but then I moved things around 19:09:30 it's silly, yes 19:09:34 as is "" .. for that matter 19:11:07 it was longer when it was ": return "patrolling generate_awake " .. mons .. " band w:" .. weight" 19:11:28 generate_awake didn't work and then I decided to tag the whole vault with patrolling so 19:11:37 oh, it's HangedMan's fault! good :) 19:11:43 nooooooooo 19:13:08 I'm going to assume the transforms in this are sufficiently tested (I really don't want to test that stuff, since anything complex like this tends to be unreadable) 19:13:21 I have to ask, because one of your recent vaults had a bug where walls turned into monsters :P 19:13:29 heh 19:14:22 four different testers and I got to watch three of them playing it, and I played through quite a few times, so I have hopefully caught everything 19:14:40 with the context of those ideas the vault is trying to do, are the monster choices acceptable? 19:14:47 what does this do: 19:14:48 MARKER: J = lua:props_marker { portal=1 } 19:14:48 MARKER: K = lua:props_marker { portal=1 } 19:14:48 MARKER: L = lua:props_marker { portal=1 } 19:14:55 I can't seem to see where this is being used 19:14:55 it's new stuff, actually 19:14:59 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:15:16 <|amethyst> %git e062c074 19:16:14 Grunt * 0.11-a0-3034-ge062c07: Allow encompass vaults to designate locations for Abyss/Hell/Pan portals. (3 days ago, 4 files, 41+ 5-) https://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/commit/e062c074b129 19:16:19 stuff grunt implemented and is using in an encompass vault of his own, it places the hells/pan/abyss portals in specific spots 19:16:19 ah, I see 19:16:19 Actually, two encompass vaults, now. 19:16:19 (I added them in to _hallowed_halls as well.) 19:16:19 mmmm 19:16:19 (... because having portals randomly placed there was bothering me.) 19:16:19 -!- Oddtwang has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:16:45 HangedMan: make this vault only show up in D... 19:16:53 I think in branches, encompass vaults should be reserved for endings 19:17:20 aww, it was a headache setting up crypt and blade to place properly 19:17:43 but I can see why, fine 19:18:47 -!- Vbitz has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:03 maybe this is intentional, but the vault is slightly asymmetrical 19:19:12 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:19:44