00:05:04 yeah, this was the game erroneously thinking that the path was blocked (possibly the path of the explosion, but it didn't seem to happen every time so I don't know) 00:05:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 00:13:05 Targeting with lightning bolt can fail to highlight monsters (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5941) by st 00:14:15 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:50 -!- remyroy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:31:44 -!- ebarrett has quit [] 00:33:43 -!- zzedar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 00:35:16 -!- ussdefiant__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:07 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:43:41 Boulder beetle reaches to attack (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5942) by nubinia 00:45:11 -!- Serfuzz has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:48:01 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52:49 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [] 01:03:17 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 01:04:39 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:05:25 -!- BONGHITZ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 01:06:54 um, is it possible for altars to randomly appear in entry vaults? 01:09:50 also, is there any way to tell precisely what the name of the entry vault i have is on CAO? the placement of the altar doesn't really seem random 01:10:12 and i seem to recall you're busy removing such things 01:15:28 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15:43 -!- Ashenden has quit [] 01:18:42 -!- G-Flex has quit [Quit: Time for us to bug out.] 01:23:15 * ussdefiant__ issues a mild prod at elliptic 01:24:24 -!- TGWi has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:26:01 -!- Codrus has quit [Quit: o/] 01:26:14 there seem to be a few entry vaults with altars 01:26:36 one of them even has a comment "# Just another altar on DL:1" 01:26:51 I don't know what the current policy is about this 01:27:14 wait, what were the vaults with hidden stuff you were removing? Altars or uber-loot or what? 01:27:28 or is that just a No Hidden Stuff In Entries policy? 01:27:43 you are probably thinking of evilmike who was removing vaults 01:27:49 ah 01:28:00 -!- zzedar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:28:15 not gonna wait for him to show, off to splat i go 01:28:41 in general I think hidden stuff in entries is bad and these vaults look like they might be questionable, but I don't know vault syntax very well 01:31:07 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [] 01:34:04 -!- TAS_2012v has quit [Client Quit] 01:40:20 -!- ussdefiant__ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 01:53:02 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:59:16 -!- Kalir has quit [Quit: YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE] 02:17:07 -!- Dole has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:17:14 -!- Rewans has quit [] 02:19:16 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 02:20:57 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:22:30 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:42 -!- dtsund has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33:56 -!- mong has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:38:29 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:46 -!- casmith789 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 02:40:14 -!- mthomson is now known as Elynae 02:44:45 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:48:41 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 02:49:39 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:47 -!- barbs has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:34 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 03:00:06 -!- zzedar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:00:15 -!- |amethyst has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:03:17 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 03:07:11 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:16:49 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:20:43 -!- tensorpudding has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:24:03 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 03:30:29 writing software specifications, I accidentally replaced "user" by "player". At least I catched it before clicking send :) 03:35:22 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:07 -!- st_ has quit [] 03:40:24 -!- yogaFLAME has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:42:22 -!- |amethyst has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:38 -!- voker57 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:31 -!- buppy has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:59:54 -!- nonethousand has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 04:02:00 -!- nonethousand has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:57 hm just experienced this bug again 04:21:40 on cdo, picked random character, got Deep Elf Hunter, hit enter to start, and then I get "Incompatible weapon specified in options file. Hit any key to exit..." 04:27:10 BlastHardcheese: clean up your crawlrc? 04:29:54 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 04:32:03 I haven't set any weapons in my rc. Starting a DEHu manually works fine. This happened before with a TrHu also. 04:32:05 -!- moohaus has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:34:22 -!- SkaryMonk1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:55 -!- DracoOmega has quit [] 04:39:58 -!- smeea has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:46:17 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 04:47:05 -!- Unflexed has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:48:26 -!- Jyazen has quit [Quit: [08:16:57] <@Rutee> Glee! I can do Saladin naked] 05:00:03 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2896-g7337c72 05:12:13 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:16 -!- Maahes has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:39:44 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:41:15 -!- BONGHITZ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:44:02 -!- ontoclasm has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:54:13 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 05:54:27 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:35 -!- voker57 has quit [Changing host] 06:00:00 -!- Etna has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 06:01:54 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:03:08 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:04:34 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:07:07 -!- ajikeshi__ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07:16 -!- Vizer has quit [Quit: nipaa~] 06:07:38 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:12:55 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:30 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:24 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:41 -!- zermkanbo has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:25:49 -!- Deathmic has quit [Quit: Miranda IM! 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"rolling"? "boulder"? 08:18:30 beetlejuice 08:19:53 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:27:29 -!- Sab0t has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:29:22 -!- Namey has quit [Quit: Page closed] 08:31:30 -!- Zeph has quit [Quit: To terminate connection from the network. 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Thanks :) 09:48:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54:06 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2896-g7337c72 (33) 09:57:32 -!- pantaril has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:59:03 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:50 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:03:24 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:05:47 -!- Mindblank has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:25 -!- s951 has quit [Client Quit] 10:06:46 -!- Mindblank has quit [Client Quit] 10:14:06 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:18:03 03elliptic * r907b21efd364 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/overflow.des: Fix demons_altar placing a smoke demon on D:3. 10:20:17 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29:24 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:30:26 -!- Jatoskep has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:41 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:49 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:34:10 mmh 10:34:47 elliptic: the comment still says # Either one slow type 3 or 4 demon (iron devil or smoke demon) or 10:34:59 this is correct 10:35:05 read further 10:35:13 oh, i see 10:35:29 nevermind. :) 10:41:16 -!- rkd2 has quit [Client Quit] 10:43:58 -!- virigoth has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:45:37 -!- Grildrak has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:48:21 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:46 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:50:09 -!- ussdefiant__ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:43 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:55:29 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 10:58:38 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:04 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:04:13 Disconnected pan floor (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5943) by MarvinPA 11:08:20 -!- FunnyMan3595 has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:13:04 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 11:14:25 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probably do not need more experience. 15:27:46 Grunt: yeah, I'd move Slime away from there to reduce confusion. It's something you do after Zot and sometimes even Pan. 15:27:50 ... unless you're training up an alternate skillset for some strange reason. 15:27:57 6 levels of jellies just seems excessive. alternative would be making it more interesting somehow, but easier solution is making it shorter. :) 15:28:02 but SSSSS 15:28:12 kilobyte, not necessarily, though usually. I've had a few characters clear Slime for a third rune. 15:28:15 in terms of actual contents slime is one of the better branches by far 15:28:26 after pan? what? 15:28:35 It depends on the character, really. 15:28:48 maybe if you absolutely test the corrosion/mutation juggle 15:28:51 detest 15:28:53 !lg . place=Slime|Pan s=place 15:28:53 12 games for kilobyte (place=Slime|Pan): 5x Slime:6, 5x Pan, Slime:5, Slime:2 15:29:09 !lg * place=Slime|Pan s=place 15:29:12 1666 games for * (place=Slime|Pan): 718x Pan, 386x Slime:6, 149x Slime:1, 149x Slime:5, 95x Slime:2, 92x Slime:3, 77x Slime:4 15:29:33 !lg * place=Slime s=xl 15:29:33 No games for * (place=Slime) 15:29:37 !lg * place=~Slime s=xl 15:29:38 and Pan has many more levels than 6 15:29:41 948 games for * (place=~Slime): 176x 27, 65x 21, 61x 13, 61x 25, 61x 23, 61x 22, 56x 26, 53x 19, 48x 20, 48x 24, 43x 16, 43x 17, 42x 15, 39x 14, 36x 18, 34x 12, 9x 11, 5x 10, 4x 6, 7, 9, 5 15:29:47 <|amethyst> !lg . rune=slimy s=xl 15:29:52 Unknown selector: rune 15:29:52 quite a few of those slime:1 deaths are going to be people entering without knowing what it is 15:29:52 !lg * place=~Pan s=xl 15:29:52 <|amethyst> !lm . rune=slimy s=xl 15:29:52 718 games for * (place=~Pan): 540x 27, 33x 26, 24x 25, 22x 24, 14x 23, 13x 22, 10x 17, 8x 12, 8x 20, 7x 19, 6x 21, 6x 14, 5x 18, 5x 13, 5x 9, 4x 11, 4x 16, 2x 15, 10, 6 15:29:53 2 milestones for |amethyst (rune=slimy): 20, 22 15:30:08 !lm . rune=slimy s=xl 15:30:08 3 milestones for Grunt (rune=slimy): 23, 22, 21 15:30:22 !lm * rune=slimy s=xl 15:30:23 7181 milestones for * (rune=slimy): 3490x 27, 820x 26, 736x 25, 588x 24, 466x 23, 338x 22, 227x 21, 114x 20, 83x 19, 66x 18, 54x 15, 45x 13, 42x 14, 31x 16, 30x 12, 24x 17, 14x 11, 10x 10, 8, 9, 5 15:30:29 People are significantly more likely to attempt Pan while properly prepared than Slime. 15:30:36 That is... 15:30:44 more people enter Slime without being prepared for it. 15:30:50 <|amethyst> !lm * br.enter=slime s=xl 15:30:56 <|amethyst> !lm * br.enter=pan s=xl 15:30:57 10827 milestones for * (br.enter=slime): 2870x 27, 960x 13, 826x 25, 812x 24, 796x 26, 698x 23, 554x 12, 540x 14, 501x 22, 459x 21, 355x 20, 300x 15, 294x 19, 242x 16, 234x 17, 207x 18, 130x 11, 35x 10, 5x 6, 3x 9, 2x 7, 2x 5, 8, 1 15:31:04 10688 milestones for * (br.enter=pan): 9551x 27, 306x 26, 246x 25, 124x 23, 124x 24, 76x 22, 55x 21, 35x 19, 32x 17, 30x 20, 28x 18, 19x 16, 13x 11, 13x 13, 9x 15, 9x 14, 8x 12, 7x 9, 2x 6, 10 15:31:32 todo: dive to Pan gate, enter at XL1. 15:31:45 !lm * br.enter=slime xl=1 -game 15:31:45 squarelos:cdo:20110617175018S. squarelos the Charlatan (L5 SpAr), splashed by acid on Slime:1 on 2011-07-17, with 268 points after 1557 turns and 0:06:49. 15:31:49 :D 15:32:03 !lm * br.enter=slime xl=1 -tv:$ 15:32:04 1. squarelos, XL1 SpAr, T:1527 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 15:33:16 IMO slime being 6 levels is fine 15:33:56 I'll be intrigued to see what kind of vaults are developed for slime now that the stairs bug has been fixed. 15:34:13 I tend to agree with kilobyte that there's no reason why it should match the other lair branches, and anything shorter than 5 would be too short IMO given how many people just dive to the end 15:34:36 too much variance in how easy it is to get to the end with 4 levels or whatever 15:34:52 it would definitely be nice to get a few vaults to spice it up, though 15:35:00 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:35:16 HangedMan developed a couple at one point; it's how we know about the stair bug. 15:35:24 s/know/knew/ 15:35:31 I'll probably come up with a few ideas sooner or later. :) 15:35:45 i should design vaults that aren't just mimics 15:35:54 The vault is a mimic! 15:35:59 The vault mimic constricts Zannick. 15:36:29 i've managed to mostly avoid constriction since i've played 0.10 once >.> 15:37:56 a bunch of good slime vaults would definitely be another way to go 15:39:27 freefall, we haven't had (m)any slime vaults to this point due to a now-fixed bug in stair placement in Slime. 15:39:37 ...you'd end up with stairs next to slime walls when vaults were involved. 15:43:32 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47:51 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:37 -!- odiv has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:00:34 -!- urthmove1 has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:02:12 -!- SurpriseTRex has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:03:22 -!- minqmay has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:10:19 Zaba: since you know the dungeon builder code best: care to look at #5943? There's a case of a vault splitting the map into two disconnected parts, yet it hasn't been vetoed. 16:13:07 -!- nooodl has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:18:02 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:14 <|amethyst> hm 16:19:24 <|amethyst> teleport traps now block connectivity 16:20:13 <|amethyst> so if the vault overwrites a tele trap with a wall, that won't change the number of zones 16:22:08 -!- dingir has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:23:13 -!- rast_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:23:41 -!- BONGHITZ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:26:16 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:26:19 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 16:28:20 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:28:47 -!- CryptoCactus has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:37:33 03edlothiol * r50ccef46067d 10/crawl-ref/source/tilepick-p.cc: Fix rods not being shown on the player doll (#5944). 16:38:37 -!- Elynae has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:52:03 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 16:52:51 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:55:41 -!- Stelpa has quit [Changing host] 16:57:08 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:57:38 -!- Nomi_ is now known as Nomi 16:58:37 -!- Vizer0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:58:43 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:51 -!- Snowclone has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:04:07 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: restarting] 17:05:12 -!- rast_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:18 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:08:20 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 17:12:07 -!- zzedar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:14:25 -!- yxhuvud has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:14:44 -!- PollyEsther has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:15:34 -!- abbott299 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:16:44 -!- Dixie has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:17:48 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 17:18:26 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: gn8] 17:19:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 17:20:35 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 17:22:09 -!- ClawlessVictory has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:26:40 -!- tsohg has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:26:44 -!- tsohg_ is now known as tsohg 17:27:58 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:34:33 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:38:17 -!- Codrus has quit [Quit: o/] 17:39:49 -!- Zephryn has quit [Quit: restarting] 17:42:40 -!- magistern has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:45:34 -!- tJener has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:50:47 -!- Puhspabon has quit [Quit: zzzzzz] 17:52:07 -!- Nightbeer has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:43 -!- chewymouse has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:54:30 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:41 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:56:06 -!- G-Flex has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:40 -!- Etna has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:03:52 -!- jvj24601 has quit [Quit: leaving] 18:10:49 -!- Laraso has quit [Quit: Clap on! , Clap off! 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Xenene, XL7 DDHe, T:1168 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/crash-Xenene-20120718-013354.txt 20:40:13 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest27267 20:40:25 <|amethyst> s/54/53/ 20:40:49 <|amethyst> wha? 20:40:54 <|amethyst> it's a crash in the RNG 20:40:57 o_O 20:41:03 -!- notthepope has quit [*.net *.split] 20:41:03 -!- bakafloc1aflame has quit [*.net *.split] 20:41:03 -!- MakMorn has quit [*.net *.split] 20:41:03 -!- Guz has quit [*.net *.split] 20:41:03 -!- rwbarton has quit [*.net *.split] 20:41:41 Xenene the Purifying Dwarf (L9 DDHe) (Zot) 20:41:45 O_O 20:41:48 <|amethyst> !lm Xenene zotdef crash -log 20:41:48 2. Xenene, XL9 DDHe, T:1494 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/crash-Xenene-20120718-014136.txt 20:42:04 ...same stack trace. 20:42:07 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:42:16 Almost. 20:42:34 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:20 how does that happen 20:45:33 Xenene the Purifying Dwarf (L9 DDHe) (Zot) 20:45:56 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:01 !lm . Xenene zotdef crash -log 20:46:01 Malformed argument: Xenene 20:46:05 !lm Xenene zotdef crash -log 20:46:05 3. Xenene, XL9 DDHe, T:1588 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/crash-Xenene-20120718-014532.txt 20:46:24 ...and...that had nothing to do with the RNG. 20:46:40 <|amethyst> but is still inside pick_local_zombifiable_monster 20:47:06 I have the uneasy feeling that this has something to do with my recent changes to that function to assume that the player is in Dungeon for ZD purposes. 20:50:03 maybe it is somehow getting into an infinite loop and being terminated by something? 20:50:14 that loop looks sort of dangerous 20:50:28 <|amethyst> oh 20:50:31 <|amethyst> duh 20:50:36 <|amethyst> sigterm, not segv 20:50:38 <|amethyst> yeah 20:51:39 Xenene the Faith Healer (L10 DDHe) (Zot) 20:51:50 !lm Xenene zotdef crash -log 20:51:50 3. Xenene, XL9 DDHe, T:1588 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/crash-Xenene-20120718-014532.txt 20:51:58 !lm Xenene zotdef crash -log 20:51:58 4. Xenene, XL10 DDHe, T:1965 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Xenene/crash-Xenene-20120718-015138.txt 20:53:39 Xenene the Purifying Dwarf (L10 DDHe) (Zot) 20:55:00 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 20:55:09 I wonder if allowing the one_chance_in(1000) chance of turning ignore_rarity on in zotdef would fix it? 20:55:35 ...possibly? 20:55:47 I'm looking at the "level =" tidbit, which should be changed for ZD. 20:56:02 -!- SwissStopwatch has quit [Quit: I'm not sure I'm comfortable being a personification of Reiska's insecurities.] 20:56:44 -!- kkinch has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:57:28 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:56 <|amethyst> We could just revert the whole zotdef-in-zot thing. That would make the code for the dungeon overview a little more hacky, but who knows what other consequences there are to having zotdef there 20:58:31 oh, zotdef is in zot? so the absdungeon_depth() thing is really high? 20:58:34 Xenene the Faith Healer (L11 DDHe) (Zot) 20:58:41 elliptic: Yes. 20:58:57 I swear that I had changed that, but perhaps that was in one of my earlier approaches to the problem. 20:59:12 so diff is high, so chance is negative 20:59:51 I was going to tie the depth to the ZotDef wave number. 21:00:23 I do think the 1-in-1000 should also be independent of ZotDef state. 21:01:51 Xenene the Faith Healer (L11 DDHe) (Zot) 21:04:13 -!- minqmay has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:06:24 * Grunt glances around suspiciously... 21:08:44 03Grunt * r46cfc82f33c9 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc: Tweaks to pick_local_zombifiable_monster for ZotDef. 21:11:08 -!- Rofaner has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:15:48 Xenene the Faith Healer (L11 DDHe) (Zot) 21:16:38 Xenene the Faith Healer (L11 DDHe) (Zot) 21:17:42 -!- RedFeather has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:22:26 Xenene the Bringer of Life (L12 DDHe) (Zot) 21:25:32 -!- Led has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:27:15 -!- Kalir has quit [Changing host] 21:28:23 Xenene the Bringer of Life (L12 DDHe) (Zot) 21:32:41 -!- Poncheis has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:34:46 Xenene the Bringer of Life (L12 DDHe) (Zot) 21:37:53 -!- Poncheis has quit [Client Quit] 21:38:11 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:39:43 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:40:51 -!- rkd2 has quit [] 21:44:01 -!- KaminaSquirtle has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:49:00 -!- Rewans has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:53:58 -!- omnirizon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:00:03 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:02:54 -!- Guest27267 is now known as jarpiain 22:02:55 -!- ryansee has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:07:03 -!- pelotron has quit [Quit: ~Internet()] 22:25:04 -!- inde has quit [] 22:29:18 -!- zzedar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 22:39:37 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 22:41:46 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 22:42:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:44:43 -!- Rewans has quit [] 22:57:07 -!- Rofaner has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:57:44 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:03:28 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 23:08:04 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:10:18 -!- Taco_Princess has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:13:26 -!- GuraKKa has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:17:27 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:18:00 -!- Sprort has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21:22 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:29:19 -!- andrewhl has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:45:24 -!- jvj24601 has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:46:06 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:48:20 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:54:49 -!- kkinch has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 23:55:43 -!- hart has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:59:33 -!- Grunt has quit [Quit: leaving]