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Probably telling people to walk around the glass while searching could be better. 05:52:08 03kilobyte * rc6a717d50748 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (descript/tutorial.txt dlua/tutorial.lua): Evict the tutorial intro to the database. 05:52:09 03kilobyte * ra7f7b9120d1a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: dISABLE cAPSlOCK IN ONE CASE. 05:52:09 03kilobyte * raa144172f7a0 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/pl/tutorial.txt: Let b0rsuk know the basics of using Trog (tutorial 5). 05:52:09 03kilobyte * rb17ac2d7d156 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: s/// 05:52:09 03kilobyte * r2ef1e311a947 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: Consistently highlight all keys to press in tut5. 05:52:10 03kilobyte * rf161de93f89e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: Fix a couple of doubled spaces in non- text (tut5). 05:53:05 kilobyte: I'd actually remove the searching for the door, it doesn't really have much to do with gods. 05:53:07 2. are ability letters static enough? It could be better to say that berserk is 'aa' rather than 'a', and burn spellbooks is 'af' not 'a'. 05:53:13 It's nice, but superfluous. 05:53:45 Yes, that'd be good. 05:53:59 I wanted to raise the issue of completely removing secret doors whatsoever early in 0.12, but perhaps it could be discussed sooner? 05:54:47 kilobyte: count me in. 05:55:07 the reason is, I can'd find any case where secret doors would add to the game. In vaults, they promote spoilage. Outside, they often hide parts of the level, not providing any clues where to look. 05:55:51 kilobyte: The mailing list is a good place to propose stuff like that I think. 05:55:53 there's no real gain from training the skill here, too: you can just repeat '5' at no cost other than food 05:56:29 ghallberg: good idea, as the feature freeze should happen pretty soon 05:56:37 mhm 05:57:04 I quite like them.. but your arguments are pretty much spot on I think. 05:57:30 Keskitalo: do you have any ideas how to repair them instead of removing? 05:57:35 I like the idea, but in practice they're not interesting. 06:00:37 OTOH, there's the cost of triggering the über-OOD generation for searching unobvious secret doors. 06:00:55 i think triggered secret doors would be good 06:01:07 a door that isn't mappable, and isn't searchable, but only shows up under some conditions 06:01:43 these conditions just need to be tactical rather than strategic, unless there is a real reason to do them immediately, since backtracking sucks hard 06:01:59 The spoiler problem in vaults is the big issue though, when you think in more general level design terms (for other games), placing them by hand is often quite interesting. But we care about spoilers, and those are definitely very spoilables. 06:03:00 So maybe they just aren't a good feature for Crawl, that's what I'm leaning towards to. 06:03:00 an example: an ice cave entrance surrounded by 'wall of magically reinforced ice', and the secret door only shows itself if you kill an ice statue nearby 06:03:22 Eronarn: yes 06:03:36 Eronarn: Sounds cool (sorry), though it doesn't really need secret doors as such - you can just remove a bit of the wall. 06:03:51 !vault pan_captured_pigsty 06:03:58 Lines pasted to http://paste.scsys.co.uk/201435 06:04:00 Keskitalo: yes, but there are other times when a door is more flavorful, or provides other benefits 06:04:50 i guess think of them as a wall you can destroy but have to stand next to to do 06:04:55 (at least until door god goes in) 06:05:18 oh, a bug in the pigsty: if someone disintegrated the grate first, the marker will be there, but the message shouldn't happen 06:05:52 Eronarn: Sprint has many doors that you need a rune or something to pass through 06:06:09 Hmm, I suppose you could just change the wall to a door? 06:06:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:06:59 kilobyte: ooh, cruel idea... 06:07:09 zot vault with 15 rune locks, randomized order 06:08:02 what would the reward be? 06:08:11 orb mimic 06:08:17 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:08:32 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 06:09:14 maybe a zig or trove portal? 06:09:53 it doesn't need to be much, really; just something that A) shows players there is more to complete in the game, if they want B) lets allruners brag about something 06:14:43 triggered secret doors can already be done by just replacing features with normal doors 06:15:45 wizlab_zonguldrok does that, much to unspoiled players' annoyance 06:18:42 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:15 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:24 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 06:37:01 -!- Patashu has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:33 -!- santiago has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:50 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:47:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:48:18 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:18 -!- Jatoskep has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:49:42 -!- Jatoskep has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:29 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:54:44 -!- santiago has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:05:21 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:41 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:05:48 -!- hangedman has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:05:52 -!- Claws is now known as HangedMan 07:06:42 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:15 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:45 kilobyte: Regarding database and whitespace, I'm at loss what to do with the diagram with numpad/vikeys laid out to illustrate the directions they move the character to. 07:20:43 a single newline counts as a space, Transifex wrapping may go back and forth between those 07:21:33 empty lines are ignored by mpr(), so we can use them to separate lines 07:21:56 if you have doubts, let me convert that diagram 07:22:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:22:53 or perhaps even everything; let's just coordinate so we don't edit the same file at the same time 07:23:41 I mean, it took me quite a while do figure it out, no point in having two people learn it for an one-time task 07:25:58 I have the rest of lesson 1 in db, I'll gladly push that and let you do the diagram :) 07:26:39 But I'll check in the KiSS changes for 2-4, and move the strings to db as I go - that's no problem 07:27:45 no hurry, I'll mess with hints in the meantime 07:27:49 ok, excellent 07:28:15 just tell me when you'll release the edit lock 07:28:45 k 07:38:39 -!- aleksil has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:48:17 03Keskitalo * rf8d6c006d119 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson1.des descript/tutorial.txt): Mostly move tutorial lesson 1 strings to database. 07:48:55 kilobyte: I should be done with the first lesson now. 07:49:32 There's unfinished database entries for the two occasions where the diagram appears in tutorial.txt already. 07:57:40 this looks wrong: you can enter the next level with 16[>. 07:58:14 recoloured for clarity: with 13[>. 07:58:44 It does indeed, a moment.. 07:58:45 besides unmatched [], it looks like [ is a part of the command 08:05:32 hmm, looking again, it looks like you want to put EVERYTHING in [] 08:05:45 so probably it won't be mistaken then 08:06:14 03kilobyte * rf01614af8061 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: Format the diagrams in tut1. 08:06:16 03kilobyte * refb79217ca3e 10/crawl-ref/source/hints.cc: Fix a misplaced . vs ' 08:06:17 03kilobyte * r5b7668b20daa 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Don't raise a disintegrated grate in pan_captured_pigsty. 08:08:05 03kilobyte * r3e1acce2f8b7 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/tutorial.txt: Enclose > in [] in tut1, for consistency with the rest. 08:10:26 kilobyte: thanks! 08:17:33 uh oh, imagine the next commit was squashed with what I pushed before :p 08:18:08 03kilobyte * ref7677ed97de 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson1.des descript/tutorial.txt): Actually format the diagrams in tut1, remove blank lines causes by tiles stuff. 08:28:06 Looks good! 08:31:50 the edit lock for all of tutorial is yours 08:32:15 probably pointless to update the .pl transaction while the original text is in flux, too 08:43:24 -!- Fa has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:01 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:25 -!- Patashu is now known as Patashu[Zzz] 08:49:15 -!- moxian has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:52:23 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:27 -!- Grunt has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:48 -!- omnirizon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:45 -!- shirish has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:30:36 -!- shirish has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:10 -!- shirish has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40:19 -!- SkaryMonk1 has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:51:30 kilobyte: Ah, sorry I failed to mention the old diagrams being still in .des ... did not want to commit stuff that'd be broken for the end user :) 09:56:19 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 09:59:08 nm, it would get obvious during translating anyway :p 10:01:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:02:47 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:19 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:31:54 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:37:00 -!- rast has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:39:53 -!- rast has joined ##crawl-dev 10:41:13 -!- ussdefiant_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:46:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2527-gef7677e (33) 11:14:07 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:32:23 -!- aleksil has joined ##crawl-dev 11:38:23 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:52 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 12:14:30 -!- rast_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:17:05 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:17:07 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 12:24:34 03edlothiol * r0a8080d0d029 10/crawl-ref/source/tileweb.cc: Fix webtiles compilation. 12:24:44 03edlothiol * r47d89c6a338e 10/crawl-ref/source/ (23 files in 4 dirs): dd's bow tiles. 12:36:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:49 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:09 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 13:17:31 ERROR in 'mon-place.cc' at line 1274: invalid monster to place: sensed monster (499) 13:17:31 %??sensed monster 13:17:40 @??sensed monster 13:20:49 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:59 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36:39 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:45:42 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 13:49:51 <|amethyst> HangedMan: no, you're not allowed to use it in a vault 13:50:01 hahaha 13:50:08 kilobyte: regarding secret door removal, this seems like something that would be interesting for 0.12. for 0.11 I'm less sure, because I don't think it would be as easy as simply changing all secret doors to normal doors 13:50:09 evilmike: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:50:42 or to rock 13:50:43 in *most* cases this would work, but there are a few where they're used to pause/slow down the player (often where the vault would be an autoexplore trap) 13:51:09 and there are weirder cases like that Tartarus ending too 13:51:21 demon plants 13:53:03 oklob plant demonologist? 13:53:35 well, except then fedhas 13:53:37 I posted on the tavern a few minutes ago, something that would make this easier would be a door that stops autoexplore (but doesn't have a prompt) 13:53:57 statues, perhaps 13:54:05 no, that's awkard in a lot of cases 13:54:36 this special door would only be used on the entrance to enclosed vaults (that generally means the door is on the edge of the map). No room for statues there 13:55:41 I meant for the tar_mu map 13:56:54 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 14:03:50 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:04:06 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:17 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 14:13:26 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 14:13:40 evilmike: I agree with that. Right now I'm working on some vaults that use restricted doors (for vaults branch), that could be another property of vault doors 14:16:58 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:18 clouded_: yeah, that makes a lot of sense 14:24:21 Kittens the Ducker (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 11. (D:1) 14:24:49 o_O 14:30:05 Kittens the Scratcher (L3 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 561. (D:6) 14:30:28 !lm Kittens crash 14:30:28 1. [2012-06-28] Kittens the Ducker (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base type == OBJ FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 11. (D:1) 14:30:32 !lm Kittens crash -log 14:30:32 2. Kittens, XL3 FeBe, T:561 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Kittens/crash-Kittens-20120628-193004.txt 14:32:10 Kittens the Gouger (L6 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 1196. (D:11) 14:32:28 Kittens the Gouger (L6 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 1198. (D:11) 14:33:21 Kittens the Gouger (L6 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 1213. (D:12) 14:33:32 Kittens the Gouger (L6 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 1215. (D:12) 14:34:39 Kittens the Gouger (L7 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 1897. (D:15) 14:35:52 Kittens the Gouger (L7 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 2135. (D:15) 14:36:23 another on-request crash? 14:36:45 Kittens the Gouger (L8 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 2471. (D:17) 14:37:04 Kittens the Gouger (L8 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 2573. (D:17) 14:38:14 judging by how fast this character is descending, it looks like that 14:39:50 i just opened cao to watch and i don't see them playing anymore 14:42:25 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:33 try now 14:43:27 Kittens the Gouger (L9 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 2966. (D:17) 14:43:52 yeah, like I thought, kittens is triggering a crash whenever he/she dies 14:43:53 hm, i saw that happen, but i didn't see a menu open 14:43:58 it's macro'd to something 14:43:59 Kittens the Gouger (L8 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 2935. (D:18) 14:44:05 so i'm still not sure what the item is 14:44:22 is there a way to pull up someone's macro file? 14:44:35 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:41 Kittens the Gouger (L9 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 3276. (D:17) 14:45:08 Enter note: eating a potion causes a crash 14:45:09 heh 14:45:56 -!- Poncheis has joined ##crawl-dev 14:46:09 heh 14:46:26 Kittens the Gouger (L8 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 3047. (D:16) 14:48:15 Kittens the Gouger (L9 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 3738. (D:17) 14:48:54 Kittens the Gouger (L9 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 3696. (D:17) 14:49:11 Kittens the Gouger (L9 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 3646. (D:18) 14:49:33 -!- Patashu[Zzz] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:50:10 Eating a potion causes a crash (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5847) by evilmike 14:51:59 Enter note: I'm eating with the food.eat() command 14:52:16 yeah I just figured that out 14:52:44 yep, just got to l_food.cc 14:53:06 it's calling eat_inventory_item directly 14:53:28 -!- Poncheis has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 14:53:32 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 5045. (D:19) 14:53:34 but the proper checks are in prompt_eat_inventory_item 14:53:42 food.cc:660 14:53:56 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 4826. (D:20) 14:54:31 -!- Nomi has joined ##crawl-dev 14:54:32 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 4871. (D:20) 14:55:10 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 5288. (D:19) 14:55:54 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 5724. (D:21) 14:57:47 well, I can't get it to crash in 0.10 at least, it just mysteriously deletes the potion instead 14:57:52 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 6339. (D:20) 14:58:14 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 6304. (D:21) 14:58:34 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 6379. (D:20) 14:58:50 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 6580. (D:20) 14:59:10 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 6750. (D:20) 14:59:47 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7073. (D:21) 15:00:24 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7187. (D:21) 15:02:19 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7588. (D:19) 15:02:51 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7379. (D:19) 15:04:07 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7493. (D:20) 15:04:18 this guy needs to be stopped before he speedruns 15:04:19 kilobyte: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 15:04:51 rax: care to castrate Kittens? 15:05:12 not sure how to trigger this bug... 15:05:15 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7505. (D:20) 15:05:26 HangedMan the Ducker (L1 FeBe) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 928: screen write out of bounds: (22,0) into (80,7) (D) 15:05:31 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7491. (D:20) 15:06:04 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7533. (D:21) 15:06:18 03edlothiol * rc8f20abad965 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/item/armour/shields/ (dwarven_buckler2.png orcish_buckler2.png): Correctly center two buckler tiles. 15:06:19 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7490. (D:21) 15:06:27 HangedMan the Charlatan (L2 SpAr) ERROR in 'libutil.cc' at line 967: screen write out of bounds: (22,0) into (80,7) (D:2) 15:06:37 overly-large macro, another on-demand crash 15:06:58 yay 15:07:08 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7739. (D:20) 15:07:16 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7739. (D:20) 15:07:35 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7750. (D:21) 15:07:45 oh, it's just 5554 15:07:48 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7754. (D:21) 15:07:58 Kittens the Ripper (L11 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7741. (D:21) 15:08:03 03kilobyte * rdcbd244a4298 10/crawl-ref/source/l_crawl.cc: clua: crawl.hints_type() 15:08:03 03kilobyte * r0535df25186b 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Autosave on a felid death, to make crash-scumming more risky. 15:08:05 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7741. (D:20) 15:08:24 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7741. (D:20) 15:08:31 Kittens the Ripper (L10 FeBe) ASSERT(item.defined() && item.base_type == OBJ_FOOD) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2197 failed on turn 7741. (D:20) 15:10:42 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:10:55 too bad, there's too many tempting targets for crashes 15:11:09 at least acquirement and bad mutations 15:18:48 kilobyte: I managed to trigger it locally by just copying kittens. Put in your config: 15:18:50 :function eat() 15:18:50 : food.eat(items.inslot(0)) 15:18:50 :end 15:19:00 and them macro that to something (kittens uses ===eat on A) 15:22:22 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:04 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:25:12 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:50 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:05 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:28:06 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:32:54 yay, can_ingest() is overloaded for food and potions 15:33:45 slightly less important: this bug allows eating otherwise inedible food 15:36:19 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:38:06 03kilobyte * rf7678ec15dde 10/crawl-ref/source/l_food.cc: Fix a crash on demand on lua food.eat(potion) 15:40:08 < CIA-50> kilobyte * r0535df25186b /crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Autosave on a felid death, to make crash-scumming more risky. 15:40:11 hahaha brilliant 15:41:08 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:42:43 it does not make any real difference, though. It merely reduces profits you get somewhat. 15:42:50 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:24 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:58 -!- kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:45 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:50:07 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:50:29 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 15:51:40 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:40 -!- ChrisOelmueller has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:34 !tell elliott termrec: almost, I had a few minor commits not there. Too bad, it had seen almost no improvements in ages -- but if there's something amiss, please shout. 16:04:35 kilobyte: OK, I'll let elliott know. 16:06:11 OMGWTF... during "make clean" on termrec, suddenly wine popup spawns, and configure says: checking whether we are cross compiling... no 16:14:34 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:22:05 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:00 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:41 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 17:06:37 -!- rast_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:22 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:09:00 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:09:13 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 17:11:21 -!- _dd has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:36:34 -!- Thann has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:42:37 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:56:50 -!- eeviac_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:04 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:08:47 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:34:08 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 18:52:01 HangedMan the Poker (L4 MfSk) (D:3) 18:52:13 o_O 18:52:20 !lm HangedMan crash -log 18:52:20 10. HangedMan, XL4 MfSk, T:1997 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/HangedMan/crash-HangedMan-20120628-235200.txt 18:52:45 ... 18:52:45 couldn't get out of autopickup menu, closed client to reset game, tripped over whatever the game cancelling is 18:53:05 s/200/159/ 18:53:07 also presumably it is off in terms of seconds 18:54:36 yeah, it crashed trying to draw the title (of the autopickup menu, i presume) 18:56:31 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:15:20 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:38 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:29 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:22:56 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 19:28:08 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:30:40 -!- rast_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:53 -!- rast has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:34:02 -!- rast_ is now known as rast 19:49:31 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:49:43 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:46 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:13:41 I have the hardest time finding my way around the source, can anyone tell me where most/all of the god/prayer code is? 20:13:58 I want to see fedhas' LOS prayer vs other sacrifice god prayer 20:14:55 eeviac_: I don't know where it is, but do you know how to use grep? 20:15:01 and/or ack and/or git grep 20:15:12 uh I'm learning how to use git now 20:15:23 I'm guessing what I'm looking for is godprayer.cc 20:15:31 there are too damn many files 20:15:36 too damn many codes 20:15:46 fr: combine source into single .txt file 20:15:50 yes 20:15:54 I was just thinking that 20:15:57 100,000 line file 20:16:09 with an equally large header file 20:16:09 eeviac_, try fedhas_fungal_bloom() at godabil.cc:1960 for that bit of code. 20:16:35 ok 20:24:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:26:20 -!- clouded_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:28:03 -!- rast has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 20:30:58 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:08 <|amethyst> !learn add vaultmaking https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps and docs/develop/levels/ in the source 20:31:09 vaultmaking[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:help:maps and docs/develop/levels/ in the source 20:40:16 -!- Dixie has joined ##crawl-dev 20:41:06 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:02 -!- phyphor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:44:09 -!- HangedMan is now known as GreatOrbOfEyes 20:45:42 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:45:42 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:45:42 -!- Dixbert has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:45:43 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:45:43 -!- phyphor has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:45:46 -!- ussdefiant_ is now known as ussdefiant 20:46:18 -!- aleksil has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 20:46:19 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:47 why not link to the web interface of those? 20:46:53 i.e. http://gitorious.org/crawl/crawl/trees/master/crawl-ref/docs/develop/levels 20:48:46 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 20:50:56 -!- kek has quit [Client Quit] 20:56:53 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:00:53 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:14:07 I get really bad rubberband lag whenever I telnet from my linux partition - is there any obvious reason why this might be? 21:14:39 playing from windows/my phone never has this 21:15:55 eeviac_: why not ssh instead? 21:16:09 is there an ssh console command? 21:16:19 guess what it is :) 21:16:27 it better not be ssh 21:17:50 now I have to figure out the whole password key ting 21:18:18 I don't think cao requires a key 21:18:20 cdo does 21:18:29 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:18:31 cao is just: 21:18:40 hm 21:18:44 let me check, actually 21:18:45 cao has a key you download 21:18:55 but I don't know what to do with it if I'm not using putty 21:18:58 you don't need the key for cao 21:19:16 ??cdo[4] 21:19:16 cdo[4/4]: wget http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cao_key; chmod 400 cao_key; ssh -Ci cao_key crawl@crawl.develz.org or On a Mac: curl -O http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cao_key; chmod 400 cao_key; ssh -Ci cao_key crawl@crawl.develz.org 21:19:25 but this is approximately how to use the key for either one 21:19:35 eeviac_: the command is just "ssh joshua@crawl.akrasiac.org" with password "joshua" 21:19:35 cao is joshua:joshua just in case 21:20:05 that worked, let's see if I still lag 21:20:06 -C might speed things up a bit too 21:20:12 for compression 21:20:14 ? 21:20:15 yes 21:20:26 does ssh not compress by default 21:20:32 I'm still really new to linux 21:21:13 but you are learning! you are already in the 1% 21:21:40 if I'm part of the 1% does that mean operation wall street hates me 21:26:08 eeviac_: up here at the top of the heap, you'll find that the impotent complaints of the proletariat will fade long before they reach your gilded ears 21:29:22 sudo apt-get wealth and power 21:33:26 yes! you figured out the puzzle 21:35:14 honestly I'm surprised at how straightforward these console commands are 21:35:22 to ssh, you ssh 21:35:53 saying that is inviting painful doom 21:36:38 to sed, you sed 21:37:36 to implement mcrawl, you ./make mcrawl 21:37:43 to termcast, you script -f >( cat ~/.ratry_login - | nc noway.ratry.ru 31337 > /dev/null ) 21:38:00 to termcast you have an alias to do that 21:47:49 -!- Lightli has joined ##crawl-dev 21:48:59 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:56:55 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:16 -!- Lightli has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:24:22 evilmike, a Fannar suggestion that came up that appeals to me: maintain_range! 22:25:07 (...he seems to be mostly vulnerable to melee builds, and that would alleviate some of that.) 22:26:51 unless he slows or is faster than you, that would just be endless running 22:27:26 It works surprisingly well in my test implementation. 22:29:54 It doesn't cause him to run away and forget he can cast spells; he casts spells as he flees. 22:30:19 ...if the battle goes on long enough, you end up with a cushion of ice beasts between you and him as he refrigerates you to death. 22:43:28 I don't know why that would be given just to fannar, when there are a lot of ranged uniques that don't have it. Plus, there are uniques that get fewer kills than he does (even though he doesn't get many) 22:44:24 I think the problem is just that several uniques (including him, poissibly) have too low HP and die too quickly 22:44:52 maintain_range doesn't make much sense, swapping with ice beasts might though 22:45:05 like how geryon swaps with beasts 22:45:26 need a unique with simulacrum 22:48:10 -!- evilmike_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:50:38 -!- evilmike has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:55:00 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:28 -!- ussdefiant_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:06:16 -!- evilmike_ is now known as evilmike 23:14:38 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 23:15:56 -!- eeviac_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0/20120601175215]] 23:18:35 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:22:46 -!- headzone has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:37:22 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 23:45:06 Two Entry Vaults (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5848) by Lightli 23:53:02 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:32 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving]