00:00:11 -!- Grunt has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:21:09 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 00:22:05 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:50 -!- eeviac_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 00:51:58 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:57:14 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:08:15 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:55 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 01:36:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:53:24 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:57 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:56 -!- omnirizon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:59 -!- omnirizon has quit [Quit: Colloquy for iPad - http://colloquy.mobi] 03:51:16 -!- absolutego is now known as absolutego_ 03:51:54 -!- absolutego_ has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:05:40 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * rf0cc9df23c56 10/crawl-ref/ (README.txt docs/license/mt19937.txt): Drop two mentions of Mersenne Twister. 04:05:40 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * r70ec7dffe04c 10/crawl-ref/source/Makefile: Install README.txt and license.txt in Windows zips. 04:08:17 -!- ark____ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:14 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 04:36:59 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:37:07 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:49:00 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 04:58:17 03kilobyte * rfe3a93332d92 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mapdef.cc mapdef.h): Axe (unused) scaling of vault weights by depth. 04:58:17 03kilobyte * re59e7d509524 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dungeon.cc dungeon.h files.cc l_dgn.cc mapdef.cc mapdef.h): Remove (unused) support for vault welcome messages. 04:58:17 03kilobyte * r978f43a9532d 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-enum.h: A typo fix. 04:58:27 03kilobyte * rc5a66a46ca06 10/crawl-ref/source/ (24 files): Remove spaces between function identifiers and arguments lists. 04:58:28 03kilobyte * r741146cc2c72 10/crawl-ref/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Hardcode loading of kills.lua; it's now dump_kill_breakdowns (default off). 05:00:06 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2368-g61a277a 05:13:47 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Want to be different? Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 05:24:16 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:31 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:41 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:51:41 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 06:22:15 -!- nooodl has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:20 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:31 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes has joined ##crawl-dev 06:22:32 -!- GreatOrbOfEyes is now known as HangedMan 06:22:47 -!- HangedMan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:22:50 -!- Claws has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:23:08 -!- Claws has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:08 -!- Claws is now known as HangedMan 06:28:52 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:55 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:56:02 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:05 -!- Nomi has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:55:31 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:51 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:17:17 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:19 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:26:16 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:35:03 -!- eeviac_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:45:08 -!- Fa has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:38 -!- moxian has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:49:39 -!- moxian|2 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:49 -!- Grunt has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:32 03kilobyte * r672e3193c309 10/crawl-ref/source/ (stairs.cc stairs.h travel.cc): Refactor the handling of stair destinations, unifying up and down directions. 08:54:40 03kilobyte * ra8417e431d03 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Store the overview of portal vaults as branches. 08:54:41 03kilobyte * r69e7e4455aac 10/crawl-ref/settings/init.txt: Don't set note_hp_percent from init.txt (redundant) 09:07:02 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:11 hello crawl devs 09:07:16 I think today is a supmoth day 09:08:38 Wensley: how so? 09:10:15 Grunt: I've never told anyone this before, but I live in a house that is perched on a mighty precipice in the heart of the andes mountains, and every once in a while enormous clouds of moths will erupt forth from their underground dwellings and blanket the skies, blocking out the sun and causing all in their path to wither and die 09:10:23 and on those days I write supmoth code 09:15:07 holy crap, my git pull output is dominated by some sort of immense reorganization of tile directories 09:16:38 now what the hell was I doing 09:16:43 ??suppression 09:16:44 suppression[1/5]: While under this effect, all of your magical items are reduced to their mundane counterparts. Magical staves act as nonmagical lengths of wood; magical swords act as nonmagical (but sharp!) hunks of metal; magical armors act as nonmagical strips of leather and hide. 09:16:46 ??suppression[2] 09:16:46 suppression[2/5]: Suppression blocks all worn and wielded magical item properties (resists, brands, etc.), as well as the evocation of magical items. The base properties of weapons and armor (dam, AC, etc.) are unaffected. Effects that occur when items are equipped/unequipped (vampirism, distortion) happen as usual. 09:16:49 ??suppression[3] 09:16:49 suppression[3/5]: TODO: suppress\/defer equip messages; handle fixedarts; needs to affect monsters too; whether or not enchant pluses are affected; art-func.h 09:16:51 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:17:04 ??suppression[4] 09:17:04 suppression[4/5]: Done: OLGREB, TROG, DEMON_AXE 09:17:10 ??suppression[5] 09:17:10 suppression[5/5]: Not done: mace of var, scythe of curses, sing sword, sword of power, zonguldruk, wyrmbane, brilliance, robe of clouds, lantern of shadows 09:17:28 fortunately I think that is a comprehensive list 09:18:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:19:22 monster suppression sounds like higher priority then unrands list 09:24:13 * kilobyte ponders hurrying with that continuous-fire lightning rod thingy, just to mess the list :p 09:25:00 destroying rod of smiting ruined a vault wip of mine, lightning rod better be good 09:25:23 "lightning rod" 09:25:31 Sounds like it should gives you rElec- or something. 09:25:40 * kilobyte beams and ponders what else to destroy. 09:26:22 Grunt: not sure whether to turn "rod of lightning" around. Sounds nicer, but raises confusion. 09:27:05 I don't think "sounds nicer" is a sufficient reason to risk confusion by defying convention. 09:27:22 "lightning rod of lightning" 09:27:49 conversely, let's define a canonical air mage and name it "foo's lightning rod" 09:27:52 orb guardian serpent 09:28:20 HangedMan, heh. 09:28:41 I was thinking earlier that orb spiders should appear in Zot. 09:28:53 ...you can probably guess why. <_< 09:29:00 HangedMan: rod of smiting already reached the pinnacle of its existence with that rakshasa death 09:29:15 !lg * kaux=~smiting 09:29:18 4. xw the Ducker (L3 FeBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by a goblin (a +1 rod of smiting (9/10)) on D:2 on 2012-04-23, with 69 points after 2409 turns and 0:00:34. 09:29:24 O_o 09:29:25 elliptic, considering it was a demonic rune vault with rakshasas with said rods 09:29:46 !lg * kaux=~smiting ckiller=~rakshaka 09:29:46 No games for * (kaux=~smiting ckiller=~rakshaka). 09:29:47 HangedMan: copying from hilarious_deaths, for shame 09:29:53 !lg * kaux=~smiting vmsg=~rakshaka 09:29:55 No games for * (kaux=~smiting vmsg=~rakshaka). 09:29:59 >_> 09:30:17 this is a category of vaults that includes hellion isle, there is very little room for shame 09:30:27 !lg * vmsg=~divine providence killer=rakshasa 09:30:28 1. WalkerBoh the Champion of Chaos (L14 DDNe), worshipper of Makhleb, blasted by a rakshasa (divine providence) in D:14 (minmay smoke and mirrors) on 2012-06-04, with 61414 points after 31746 turns and 3:51:48. 09:31:00 !lg * vmsg=~divine providence killer=rakshasa -tv 09:31:00 1. WalkerBoh, XL14 DDNe, T:31746 requested for FooTV. 09:32:08 summons cloning rods from the master copy :) 09:34:00 -!- phyphor_ is now known as phyphor 09:34:13 I wonder if it's bad to abuse rakshasa clones dealing damage when given weapons 09:35:04 we need randart rods with custom spells then :p 09:35:28 * Grunt envisions a rod of Fire Storm. 09:35:34 What would it be... 09:35:38 Fire Storm, Ice Storm, Tornado. 09:35:43 * Grunt cackles. 09:35:49 rod of bolts 09:36:01 fire cold lightning venom draining 09:36:20 Grunt: sucks, as rods have a maxmp cap of 17 09:36:40 (of course, assuming that a rod of firestorm can possibly suck :p) 09:36:47 kilobyte, an occasional fire storm or tornado can really tip the balance :p 09:36:55 really? 09:37:05 No, it makes no difference at all. 09:37:12 I don't get why people bother learning those spells. 09:37:28 got to give them away on D:1 09:37:41 of course, if you manage to kill the kobold with that rod... 09:44:24 -!- eeviac_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 13.0.1/20120614114901]] 09:51:40 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:52:21 -!- moxian|2 has left ##crawl-dev 09:52:38 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:35 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:40 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 10:02:15 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:03:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:23 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:10:31 -!- Fa has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:33 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:21:14 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:22:29 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2376-ga8417e4 (33) 10:23:17 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:34:50 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:53 -!- Fa has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:42:47 Tenaya the Spry (L14 HaSk) (Lair:8) 10:43:14 Tenaya the Spry (L14 HaSk) (Lair:8) 10:44:24 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:44 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:52 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 10:53:08 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:08 Tenaya the Spry (L14 HaSk) (Lair:8) 10:56:12 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:30 Crash in Lair:8 while tab-fighting (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5812) by Tenaya 11:05:33 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L26 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 99538. (Slime:6) 11:06:40 grammar in Spider Nest Description (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5813) by Tenaya 11:15:05 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:20:01 hyperevilmike the Cloud Mage (L13 DgAE) (Lair:6) 11:20:36 that looks like the same crash as tenaya. was not autofight, might have been trample 11:24:21 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:24:31 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:34:24 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:26 Midpoint the Impaler (L10 MiFi) (Lair:1) 11:43:50 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:44:06 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:46:57 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 11:49:18 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20120421074340]] 11:54:20 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:00:38 !lm Midpoint type=crash -log 12:00:39 1. Midpoint, XL10 MiFi, T:10486 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Midpoint/crash-Midpoint-20120621-164225.txt 12:01:54 if (defender && defender->alive() && !attacker->no_tele(true, false)) 12:01:58 spot the error 12:03:34 Palyth the Gusty (L7 TeAE) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 6445. (D:5) 12:03:41 -!- shockwave has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:43 OrangeXP the Spear-Bearer (L9 HuFi) (D:7) 12:04:15 !learn edit shockwave[4] s/$\(1349113$\)/1349113/ 12:04:15 shockwave[4/6]: Have a means of escape before summoning greater servants of makhleb. 1349113 12:05:06 Pac the Carver (L12 GhVM) (Lair:3) 12:05:18 !learn delete shockwave[1] 12:05:19 Deleted shockwave[1/6]: Don't clear the area around the vault, even if Eith says so. 12:05:21 whoa 12:05:26 I just totally crashed 12:05:27 Midpoint the Impaler (L11 MiFi) (Lair:4) 12:05:32 and I'm not sure why 12:05:49 !lm . type=crash 12:05:49 4. [2012-06-21] Pac the Carver (L12 GhVM) ? (Lair:3) 12:05:51 possibly tab, possibly something about trample 12:05:56 no tab 12:05:58 no trample 12:06:06 just waiting for hp regen on ghoul 12:06:19 quite peculiar, wonder what happened 12:06:25 Midpoint the Impaler (L11 MiFi) (Lair:4) 12:06:28 !learn delete shockwave[1] 12:06:29 looks like there's a problem somewhere ^ 12:06:29 Deleted shockwave[1/5]: Hydras. Put away your stupid sword you half-wit. yours sincerely, "1179089". 12:06:42 !learn delete shockwave[1] 12:06:43 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:06:43 Deleted shockwave[1/4]: Don't do branch endings. See 1180193. 12:06:52 03kilobyte * r92d52c9cc9ef 10/crawl-ref/source/fineff.cc: Make crash frogs blink frogs again. 12:07:12 -!- SamB__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:07:41 !learn edit shockwave[1] s/113/113\./ 12:07:41 shockwave[1/3]: Have a means of escape before summoning greater servants of makhleb. 1349113\. 12:08:04 !learn edit shockwave[1] s/113\./113./ 12:08:05 No change because the regex failed to match. 12:08:05 The crash frog crashes! 12:08:19 I BROKE IT 12:08:50 !learn edit shockwave[1] s/113\\\./113./ 12:08:51 shockwave[1/3]: Have a means of escape before summoning greater servants of makhleb. 1349113. 12:09:15 Cheers. 12:11:46 -!- blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:53 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:56 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106785. (Zot:4) 12:16:07 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106370. (Zot:4) 12:16:45 !lm Heremie type=crash -log 12:16:45 No milestones for kilobyte (Heremie type=crash). 12:16:46 derp 12:16:49 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:16:49 !lm Jeremie type=crash -log 12:16:49 16. Jeremie, XL27 DrWz, T:106370 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Jeremie/crash-Jeremie-20120621-171606.txt 12:17:00 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:17:08 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:17:20 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:17:25 he keeps doing char dumps 12:17:36 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:18:20 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:18:29 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:18:55 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:19:08 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:19:16 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:19:26 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:20:17 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:20:28 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:20:35 he's scumming 12:20:48 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106341. (Zot:4) 12:21:31 yeah, repeated acquirement then crash 12:21:49 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:21:59 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106338. (Zot:4) 12:22:10 how is he crashing so easily? 12:22:11 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106336. (Zot:4) 12:22:21 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:22:22 new scumming penalty 12:22:34 i think it's some kind of lua glitch he's causing 12:22:34 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:22:41 he's crashing immediately after chardump 12:22:49 qoala the Ruffian (L7 DrTm) (D:5) 12:22:55 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106346. (Zot:4) 12:22:57 * Grunt finds this hilarious! 12:23:15 HangedMan: in some cases, # causes an immediate crash 12:23:27 beautiful 12:23:35 not all characters, but I have one that does locally 12:24:21 Jeremie the Sorcerer (L27 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 106339. (Zot:4) 12:24:32 god damn, jeremie 12:24:49 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:25:18 at least he's happy with boots of running now 12:25:44 how_to_wand_of_wishing 12:26:27 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:01 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:34:10 * kilobyte casts "summon raxvulpine". 12:34:16 03kilobyte * r21566640e2d0 10/crawl-ref/source/kills.cc: Fix a crash on manual char dumps. 12:34:44 yo 12:34:45 rax: could you please trigger a rebuild? There's a crash bug that some bastards are abusing :( 12:34:55 trunk or 10.3 12:35:00 trunk 12:35:07 <3 12:35:20 kicked off 12:35:25 great :) 12:35:48 I tested some change on post-mortem dumps but not on '#' :( 12:35:49 Is this abuse negatively impacting other people's play? 12:36:29 spamming the hell out of this IRC channel (-> scrollback), but otherwise, not really 12:36:32 it was flooding the channel while someone was scumming acquirement 12:37:22 * Grunt cackles madly. 12:38:12 Randart rods (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5814) by sgrunt 12:40:16 * Grunt blames kilobyte for inspiring this. <_< 12:40:49 Led the Thaumaturge (L11 DrWz) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 15782. (Lair:2) 12:41:34 where in this patch is the spells list? 12:41:35 for ones not forced by a vault, I have pretty bad news: they'd be utterly unbalanced without giving rods a fail chance or something else that stops people from using top rods on D:1 :( 12:42:07 (which is already a problem if you can scum for a rod -- usually thanks to Xom) 12:42:34 well, the early d levels are already limited in equipment found 12:42:46 also you could place striking on d:1 and I don't think anybody would notice 12:44:17 rod's cumming 12:45:04 <|amethyst> on a downtown train 12:45:15 kilobyte: are you talking about rods of firestorm and such 12:45:41 a rod of firestorm would be broken beyond words 12:46:24 rod of wishing 12:46:28 i don't think rods should go as high as firestorm 12:46:35 i think it'd be fine if they didn't go past, say, L7 spells 12:47:02 lots of spells that don't depend on power would be pretty broken too 12:47:10 rod of summon hostile panlord 12:47:20 rod of catlobe breath 12:47:24 <|amethyst> rod of meph 12:47:29 protip: we shouldn't have spells that don't depend on power 12:47:56 although yes, most of those should be changed anyway at some point 12:47:56 what spells don't depend on power 12:47:59 blink depending on power sounds kind of silly 12:48:14 HangedMan: tome has it, it works well 12:48:24 in that 12:48:27 rod of mnoleg 12:48:38 blink depending on power sounds awesome 12:48:39 why do you think it wouldn't work well in crawl 12:48:57 Pacra: 'mnoleg's severed eyestalk' rod unrand 12:49:25 fr: special anti-teleport A. blink and you're dead. 12:49:33 just turn blink into semi-controlled blink but make it so that it doesn't consistently respect your desired direction until you have high power 12:49:33 well it's pretty silly in tome since blink upgrades to cblink when you level it up like twice or something 12:49:50 but yeah, power -> range for uncontrolled blink, and power -> range and precision for controlled, i guess 12:49:52 MarvinPA: i mean the random blink runes 12:50:01 ah yeah 12:50:03 tome's take on cblink is... interesting 12:50:07 tome is pretty silly in general!!! 12:50:16 cblink, through walls, as a class ability, on a 5 turn cooldown 12:50:17 woohoo 12:50:21 mmmm 12:50:49 it's really such an easy game to beat on normal mode, i had to stop playing it 12:52:14 other spells that don't use power that come to mind: dig, olgreb's?, animate dead/skeleton, fulsome 12:52:31 make dig blow out a wider path with higher power 12:52:34 +1 dig buff forever 12:52:37 Or a longer path. 12:52:50 no more multidigging in slime 12:53:02 recall? 12:53:17 this is also great because wider paths are not always what you want 12:53:19 olgreb's is easy to make use power if it doesn't already 12:53:22 remove recall 12:53:26 screw you, ddee 12:53:43 recall -> recall, mass recall 12:53:44 olgreb's does use power now 12:53:57 simm the Conjurer (L8 HEFE) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 7742. (D:7) 12:53:59 for multiple levels of poison 12:54:05 oh, I thought it just stacked now 12:54:14 portal projectile? 12:54:22 Pac the Conjurer (L13 GhVM) (Lair:3) 12:54:23 make high power fulsome just distill every corpse in sight 12:54:25 NOT AGAIN 12:54:34 make high power fulsome not exist because remove fulsome 12:54:38 Pacra: solution: do not rest 12:54:47 hey you know what we need? tloc/summ spell to summon an evil twin of a monster 12:54:47 i didn't rest that time 12:54:53 I shot and killed a hydra with fireball 12:54:54 hexes/summ 12:54:55 make high power fulsome distill eronarn, even if he is still alive 12:55:03 and then it crashed as soon as it died 12:55:08 vOv 12:55:11 Wensley: potion of bad_ideas 12:55:15 haha 12:55:16 love it 12:55:20 best xom gift 12:55:26 power for animate dead and skeleton is not as easy as the others 12:55:40 Xom ponders, "Wouldn't it be great if..." 12:55:47 potion of xom_ideas 12:55:50 unless you want to make using either a lot more tedious 12:55:50 animate dead could be non-instant at low power 12:56:11 maybe zombies are not infinite duration and collapse into a heap after a while 12:56:19 you already can't see their health, no need to see their remaining duration 12:56:30 what makes monster zombies infinite 12:56:36 ...what makes monster simulacra infinite 12:56:49 they learned to repair each other 12:57:09 !learn edit xom_ideas[2] s/…/.../ 12:57:11 xom ideas[2/2]: ...and then you die. 12:57:31 utf-hate 12:57:58 i hate irc clients that change "..." into "…" for you 12:58:13 utf is okay. that is not. 12:58:19 03dolorous * rc3ed161b0a14 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/branches.txt: Fix Mantis 5813: bad grammar in Spider Nest description (using Tenaya's second suggestion). 12:58:32 <|amethyst> a single-character ellipsis in a monospace font is... bad 12:59:17 does shadow creatures have spell power yet? 12:59:25 can we make shadow creatures not evil yet 12:59:29 just have it be an illusion spell 13:00:08 heck, make it hex/summ and name it Imaginary Friend 13:00:38 shadow creatures is already disparate enough in summons without hexes blah blah blah 13:07:41 Wensley> make dig blow out a wider path with higher power 13:07:47 uh, this would make dig weaker at higher power :P 13:08:05 the best way to use dig is to create corridors to fight in 13:08:34 you make the spell wider at high power, and you'll get people wielding a staff of air to cast dig 13:08:43 or perhaps, it could be changed to always produce a wider path, but of length depending on power 13:09:05 making the spell wider, but keeping the wand narrow would be an interesting way to differentiate them 13:09:40 what about just making it into a new spell at that point 13:09:42 What ever happened to changing wand of healing to wand of regenereation? 13:10:36 Eronarn: if the spell was changed in that way, it should be renamed, yeah 13:10:37 wand of not enough to prevent you from dying 13:10:51 <|amethyst> Excavate 13:11:15 i mean, i think a spell that just dug would be boring, even if it dug a wider area 13:11:21 make it do something else, like how you can use lrd to dig 13:11:33 turn the rock into leda-style mud? 13:11:40 for example: it digs a few squares out and fires catoblepas breath from those squares 13:11:49 'calcifying plume' 13:12:04 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2378-g2156664 (33) 13:12:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:37 "Riot bomb" in Scorched Earth. A regular projectile, when it hits something, it digs a circular area; with greater power (there: cost), it can be pretty big. 13:12:46 or for a while i've wanted a spell that makes stony spikes on the floor 13:13:37 Eronarn: what would they do? 13:15:52 kilobyte: probably some kind of damaging area of effect, or perhaps trap-like 13:16:04 (that reminds me, someone go do the zombie arms spell) 13:19:16 bear arms spell 13:20:15 You ask Xom if he has any bear claws. He says, "Wait a minute, I'll go check." 13:20:27 someone go make beastly appendage not give claws 13:20:47 HangedMan: +1 13:20:55 it was never supposed to give them 13:21:03 "No, we're out of bear claws!" 13:21:19 fr: remove pizza, add donuts 13:21:20 Xom gives you a box full of weasels. 13:21:27 but then tentacles were also said to not be used in general 13:21:40 need another hand slot mutation 13:21:46 tentacles could be used, but they should really be redone somewhat before doing so 13:21:58 lobster claws 13:22:21 hooks 13:27:32 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:32:55 evilmike, did you see the tweaks I made to those vaults? 13:33:20 yeah. They seem better 13:34:06 Good to hear. :) 13:34:28 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:36:37 HangedMan the Aerator (L22 KoAE) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 53324. (Lair:1) 13:36:44 ...oh right yeah 13:37:09 HangedMan the Aerator (L22 KoAE) ASSERT(lua_gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 53317. (Lair:1) 13:37:27 need to unmacro dumping ontop of saving, bleh 13:39:57 -!- blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 13:40:14 wasn't CAO updated? 13:40:22 or let your save be updated 13:40:33 HangedMan: did you decline to upgrade? 13:40:41 well yes, for that to happen one has to save and transfer 13:40:44 !lm HangedMan -v 13:40:44 Malformed argument: -v 13:40:48 !lm HangedMan crash -v 13:40:48 Malformed argument: -v 13:40:52 which, if save is mapped to #save, doesn't work 13:40:53 !lm HangedMan x=v 13:40:54 3068. [2012-06-21] [v=0.11-a0] HangedMan the Aerator (L22 KoAE) ASSERT(lua gettop(clua.state()) == 0) in 'main.cc' at line 1234 failed on turn 53317. (Lair:1) 13:41:02 transfered, still had a crash, transfered again, didn't crash 13:41:24 "transferred again"? ook...? 13:41:29 <|amethyst> !lm HangedMan crash -log 13:41:29 8. HangedMan, XL22 KoAE, T:53317 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/HangedMan/crash-HangedMan-20120621-183707.txt 13:41:54 <|amethyst> That wwas a8417e4 so two updates behind 13:41:57 2376 didn't have the fix, yeah 13:46:47 Grunt: some comments on the randrod patch. first, i dont think it should be possible to get spells above level 6. second, I think the rods shouldn't have more than 4 spells (and 4 should be fairly uncommon). and third, I think a lot of spells should be forbidden. I just got a rod with fire brand on it 13:47:55 even then there are balance issues, but that might address the most serious ones 13:48:30 oh god, a rod with sticks to snakes on it 13:48:48 rod with tukima's 13:49:23 wait what is this about randrods? can we please not have even more normal spells available in rod form 13:49:27 _The rat bites your Nikola's Sceptre of Lethal Feathers for 2 13:49:27 _Your Nikola's Sceptre of Lethal Feathers falls from the air. 13:50:16 rods are not really that exciting imo 13:51:42 there aren't many spells that I only want to cast once in a while, and of those spells I don't think any would be eligible for rod form 13:51:47 -!- Nomi has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:55 danharaj the Covert (L12 SpAs) (Lair:3) 13:52:02 -!- danharaj has joined ##crawl-dev 13:52:07 blink frogs crashed me again :3 13:52:16 !lm danharaj crash -log 13:52:16 !lm crash 13:52:17 5. danharaj, XL12 SpAs, T:16050 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/danharaj/crash-danharaj-20120621-185154.txt 13:52:17 No milestones for crash. 13:52:47 well, uh. 13:53:04 aha. s/185154/185152/ 13:53:21 that sequell bug is really annoying at times 13:53:23 segfault, even better 13:53:44 bug frogs 13:53:56 i think the final effect blink is bugged 13:54:07 that appears to be where it crashed 13:54:19 Now I have to fight a hydra again ._. 13:54:33 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:55:43 wait, defender blinks? 13:56:01 I don't think so. 13:56:38 kilobyte: did you mean attacker for FINEFF_BLINK? 13:57:10 would it be considered a feature that tab currently moves you over known shafts without any kind of prompt? 13:57:21 autoshaft 13:57:22 you can't fall through a known shaft 13:57:22 because i'm not sure that's what it should do by default 13:57:30 i'm not actually sure which line caused the segfault 13:57:38 auto-web is worse 13:57:39 !learn edit wcrawl[5] s/$/; autoshaft 13:57:39 wcrawl[5/8]: magenta orb guardian yolk; god names are five letters long, max; executioner form; basic blobs; summon door mimic; gardening; nothing that minqmay likes; procs; superdiesel permaberserk; mist orcs; iguanominy; multiply all numbers in mon-data.h by 100,000; cameo role from the person with the most catlobe deaths; autoshaft 13:57:40 I should mention that I don't think randrods would work well in game, I was just trying to give suggestions that would make the patch "merely insane" rather than utterly psychotic 13:57:55 i suppose i could wait for my own build then try it out 13:58:03 autoselfensnare 13:58:22 they might work better if rod mechanics were changed, but I don't know how that would work 13:59:10 <|amethyst> aha 13:59:14 <|amethyst> attacker is NULL 14:00:51 <|amethyst> hm 14:00:52 <|amethyst> wait 14:01:46 <|amethyst> the attacker is passed in the defender slot 14:01:52 <|amethyst> but that shouldn't break it by itself 14:02:22 and it doesn't... anymore 14:02:38 -!- MakMorn has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:16 92d52c9cc 14:03:42 <|amethyst> Oh, I missed the version on the crash again 14:03:54 <|amethyst> and was looking at an old version 14:03:58 <|amethyst> all at the same time :P 14:04:19 i'm looking at a new version :P 14:04:23 why do I keep crashing after the crash is fixed ._. 14:04:33 * kilobyte wishes Gretell would mention the version on crash announcements. 14:04:38 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:45 danharaj: did you refuse to upgrade? 14:04:56 he could have been playing when the crash was fixed 14:04:58 no, I started this game today. 14:05:13 I just transferred after restarting. 14:05:14 <|amethyst> 14:12:04 < Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-2378-g2156664 (33) 14:05:19 <|amethyst> that was less than an hour ago 14:05:52 I started this game 1:13 ago. 14:06:00 best timing :P 14:11:33 -!- MakMorn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:20:08 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:22:01 Debian builds of 0.10 branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10.3-5-gf0cc9df 14:30:53 -!- Fa has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:29 -!- SkaryMonk has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:37:09 -!- SkaryMonk has joined ##crawl-dev 14:45:41 kilobyte: The minotaur room is AMAZING when you get it at D:2-5 as an Oka follower, instant ****.. 14:45:52 guess that's intended? 14:46:00 it probably shouldn't happen 14:46:16 I mean, getting that much piety for sacrificing a corpse you didn't make :P 14:46:46 nice bug 14:50:10 <|amethyst> would it work to check corpse.props[MONSTER_MID] ? 14:53:31 does anyone have any ideas for a better name for big fish? i removed giant goldfish locally also, i don't recall anyone opposing that when it was discussed a while ago 14:53:33 -!- eeviac_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:53:35 <|amethyst> and should a fix affect other gods? Presumably not Nemelex, but what about blood gods? 14:53:51 MarvinPA: carp 14:53:56 <|amethyst> haha 14:54:00 name them lion fish and give them spines 14:54:19 yes 14:54:23 <|amethyst> "carp" would be better for giant goldfish, though 14:55:27 !lg . killer=big fish 14:55:27 2. Wensley the Cutter (L4 HEAM), slain by a big fish on D:3 (portal sewer entry d) on 2010-08-23, with 308 points after 3875 turns and 0:13:40. 14:55:29 well stats-wise giant goldfish are only a little bit weaker than sharks, that was the reasoning for removing them 14:55:49 sounds more like sharks are too weak 14:56:09 <|amethyst> um 14:56:11 @??shark 14:56:11 shark (16;) | Spd: 10 | Int: insect | HD: 7 | HP: 25-51 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Dam: 18, 9 | cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(28), 12drown | Chunks: 07contam | XP: 205. 14:56:13 <|amethyst> I don't understand this comment 14:56:21 @??alligator 14:56:21 alligator (12t) | Spd: 10 (act: 80%; swim: 60%) | Int: insect | HD: 12 | HP: 53-93 | AC/EV: 5/9 | Dam: 30, 15 | amphibious, cold-blooded, !sil | Res: 06magic(48), 12drown | XP: 1093 | Sp: swiftness. 14:56:23 <|amethyst> // Technically they have skeletons, but Crawl needs skeletons made 14:56:24 goldfish do a fair amount less damage but pure melee, pure aquatic monster is a pretty narrow niche 14:56:29 @??shark snapping turtle 14:56:29 unknown monster: "shark snapping turtle" 14:56:30 <|amethyst> // of bone or similar materials (e.g. chitin) 14:56:32 :( 14:56:49 <|amethyst> 1. How is chitin more similar to bone than cartilage is? 14:57:03 <|amethyst> 2. we don't count chitin as a skeleton 14:57:05 |amethyst: chitin shards! 14:57:19 how do shark bites hurt less then spiders and moths 14:57:22 Barracudas are pretty large aggressive fish. 14:57:54 barracuda efb 14:57:59 well big fish are the crappy weak ones, those are what could do with a new name 14:57:59 ??how do 14:57:59 I don't have a page labeled how_do in my learndb. 14:58:54 i guess barracuda -> shark is fine for fish progression, maybe 14:59:07