00:01:10 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1910-ge3b5d29 (33)
00:08:44 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1910-ge3b5d29
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09:37:04 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1910-ge3b5d29 (33)
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11:40:01 <Cheibriados> crash on stairs during travel: lost a rune (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5689) by jc81
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12:46:03 <Cheibriados> Annotations of uniques should be removed if the unique is 'slimified'. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5690) by CommanderC
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13:37:35 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rbae08004e6a6 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/blade.des: Remove an empty string.
13:37:37 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r0837f6bbc61e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Remove duplicate monster descriptions.
13:37:38 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r319634ecdd8f 10/crawl-ref/source/util/ (gather_cards gather_mons): Scripts to gather the names of cards and monsters.
13:37:38 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rb8726d04a2c1 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/pl/backgrounds.txt: Use French spacing in Polish descriptions.
13:37:38 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * ra5e601af66c8 10/crawl-ref/source/ (9 files in 8 dirs): Fix capitalization of a few monster names.
13:37:38 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r025f45314142 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Fix and add mimic descriptions.
13:37:48 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rfb3d2595c738 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: A script to check the consistency of db files (for now, descript/monsters).
14:02:20 <CIA-115> 03dolorous * r5db4cc511296 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Add wording fixes.
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14:04:16 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r01d83500f5ee 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: Cross-check all description files, looking for duplicates.
14:04:16 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r6c8c7f372789 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/spells.txt: Fix Beogh's Smiting ability having its descs obscured.
14:04:16 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r608d3d7d5f8b 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/features.txt: Remove duplicated feature descriptions.
14:04:26 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rfd99b38555d5 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/skills.txt: Remove the desc for the removed Buggy skill.
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14:41:03 <CedorDark> 'vening
14:42:12 <kilobyte> hrm, hard to try to check the in-game desc for "player illusion" if Mara crashes on spawning it :p
14:43:23 <CedorDark> oh, kilobyte I wanted to talk to you
14:43:39 <CedorDark> can I bother on private for a few mins?
14:43:39 <ChrisOelmueller> !lm * uniq=~mara x=cv -2
14:43:41 <Sequell> 8161. [2012-05-20] [cv=0.11-a] Elynae the Executioner (L15 DsBe) killed Mara on turn 13874. (D:21)
14:45:19 <kilobyte> CedorDark: meow?
14:45:42 <CedorDark> about translations
14:47:30 <kilobyte> ChrisOelmueller: beh, found it: it crashes in wizmode only, although this assertion _will_ break stuff in regular games too.  At this moment, most functions still use mindex, but anything that goes via mid will go wrong.
14:48:20 <kilobyte> CedorDark: sure, go ahead
15:10:27 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rbfa643f2f6cd 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: Check card descriptions.
15:10:29 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * rbefaaf1a2f1a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/ (cards.txt es/cards.txt): Remove descriptions for ex-cards.
15:10:30 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r4d3155634e11 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: Correct the Serpent of Hell false positive hack in db_lint.
15:10:30 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r2e92fce40449 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/descript/monsters.txt util/db_lint): Add descs or ignores for special monsters.
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15:54:02 <kilobyte> !tell dpeg among the Singing Sword lines, all of _speaking_high_tension_ is unused.  When were they supposed to be included?  And I don't know what weights should be.
15:54:03 <Henzell> kilobyte: OK, I'll let dpeg know.
16:14:27 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r203f01e0a484 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: Check all other database files (for duplicated keys only, currently).
16:14:27 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r6a6dfe83adae 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: Check db references for local keys (ie, ones names _something_).
16:14:28 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r591dad2b80cd 10/crawl-ref/source/util/db_lint: db_lint: Make reported filenames friendly to doubleclick copy&paste.
16:14:29 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r9a0f82e66014 10/crawl-ref/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Remove the infamous speech set that once belonged to most uniques.
16:14:29 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r7a8591bc1f32 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/wpnnoise.txt: Fix a broken Singing Sword line.
16:14:39 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * re022976a9a8f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/database/monspeak.txt mon-death.cc): Don't encase Dowan/Duvessa's death db keys in _underscores_.
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16:32:21 <greensnark> !seen Napkin
16:32:22 <Henzell> I last saw Napkin at Sun May 20 00:04:51 2012 UTC (21h 27m 31s ago) saying webtiles is upgraded and running again on ##crawl-dev.
16:32:32 <Napkin> oh hey :)
16:32:36 <greensnark> Hallo :)
16:32:54 <Napkin> how's it going? :)
16:33:01 <greensnark> Pretty great!
16:33:05 <greensnark> How about you? :)
16:33:11 <Napkin> great to hear :)
16:33:18 <Napkin> oh, same ol', same ol' here ;)
16:33:34 <Napkin> what brings you to this forsaken place? ;>
16:33:45 <greensnark> Well, I had a free Sunday!
16:33:50 <greensnark> Freeish anyway
16:33:52 <Napkin> omgomg! :)
16:33:53 <greensnark> Passably free
16:33:59 <Napkin> hehe
16:34:10 <greensnark> And I thought this would be a good time to migrate Sequell away from the overloaded box it's on
16:34:30 <greensnark> To make things entertaining I also switched to Postgres
16:34:44 <Napkin> hehe
16:34:49 <Napkin> sounds like fun :D
16:34:55 <greensnark> Postgres is nice :)
16:35:36 <greensnark> So I will soonish also be moving FooTV over to the new box
16:35:52 <greensnark> And I'd like to send the termcast server there as well...
16:35:56 <Napkin> your hetzner server so overloaded?
16:36:20 <Napkin> CDO is quite busy (and laggy) since webtiles
16:36:30 <greensnark> Well, it was a shared server and the guys using it were running a largeish php auto-enthusiast site
16:36:39 <Napkin> bäh!
16:36:53 <greensnark> Yes, some vbulletin thing :)
16:37:08 <greensnark> And there were some complaints about how the site became sluggish now and then :)
16:37:30 <Napkin> leave the server to them and get a new hetzner one?
16:37:36 <greensnark> I did
16:37:42 <greensnark> Except I picked up a server in the US
16:37:42 <Napkin> ahh, hehehe
16:37:53 <Napkin> good prices?
16:38:04 <greensnark> More expensive, but I might someday get around to setting up another North American Crawl server :)
16:38:20 <greensnark> I don't think there's anything to match Hetzner pricing
16:38:21 <Napkin> sounds like a good plan :)
16:38:35 <greensnark> These guys are 2x Hetzner price and about 5% Hetzner competence :)
16:38:51 <greensnark> I've been trying to get them to set up a PTR record for about three days now
16:38:56 <greensnark> They have no idea what I'm talking about
16:39:03 <Napkin> oh geez
16:39:20 <greensnark> Hetzner allowing you to do it online was great
16:39:29 <greensnark> I've been spoiled!
16:39:30 <Napkin> yeah
16:39:33 <Napkin> hehehe
16:39:38 <galehar> hey guys
16:39:44 <greensnark> Hey galehar
16:39:53 <Napkin> i've been thinking about switching to the current hetzner
16:40:14 <Napkin> hi galehar
16:40:19 <BlastHardcheese> on a related subject, it would be kind of nice if we had an easy way to copy config files between versions
16:41:05 <Napkin> but i'm so unmotivated at the moment.. not even scripting webtiles auto-upgrade :-$
16:41:10 <greensnark> Napkin: I thought you already switched
16:41:17 <greensnark> Oh hey, I meant to ask about that
16:41:25 <greensnark> Webtiles is not chrooted yet, is it?
16:41:40 <Napkin> it could be, but not even that i enabled yet ;)
16:41:52 <greensnark> Ah :)
16:41:55 <Napkin> edlothiol did a lot to tune it to our needs
16:42:12 <greensnark> So python in the jail with the tornado libs?
16:42:31 <Napkin> no
16:42:34 <Napkin> no need
16:42:40 <greensnark> Ooh, that is good to know
16:43:06 <Napkin> the "server.py" chroots upon start
16:43:13 <greensnark> Oh neat
16:43:28 <greensnark> So it chroots before accepting connections?
16:43:48 <Napkin> yes
16:43:51 <greensnark> Neat
16:44:18 <greensnark> Oh, have you used Xen?
16:44:41 <Napkin> not yet, circumvented around it so far ;)
16:44:49 <Napkin> vserver was easier
16:44:56 <Napkin> and used less diskspace
16:45:16 <Napkin> but.. next debian stable will come soon
16:45:19 <greensnark> I set up Xen on this box after shooting myself in the foot a couple of times
16:45:25 <greensnark> I'm still not happy with my setup, though :)
16:45:41 <greensnark> When's wheezy out?
16:45:45 <Napkin> be glad you're not at hetzner
16:45:48 <greensnark> I'm running squeeze on this box
16:45:52 <ens> hetzner rules!
16:45:56 <Napkin> you'd have to do routing instead of bridging
16:46:11 <Napkin> no clue @ wheezy
16:46:17 <greensnark> Oh, to use the second ip address?
16:46:22 <Napkin> yes
16:46:33 <greensnark> I was not sure whether to use Xen bridging anyway, I kept reading horror stories of it being flaky
16:46:41 <Napkin> took me a while, to get vserver ipv4 and ipv6 done right
16:47:08 <Napkin> nah, it's running on a joint venture server here, no stress so far with bridging
16:47:25 <Napkin> at least none that they told me of
16:47:25 <greensnark> Neat
16:47:45 <greensnark> I actually considered just using linux containers
16:47:55 <greensnark> But I wanted to play with Xen :)
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16:48:00 <Napkin> me too, when i setup the current CDO
16:48:12 <Napkin> but.. you could unmount from inside the containers!
16:48:18 <greensnark> Oh
16:48:22 <greensnark> Wow
16:48:27 <Napkin> suddently /var was read-only mounted.. because i shut down a container
16:48:34 <Napkin> imagine my face :-O
16:48:51 <greensnark> :D
16:48:55 <Napkin> well, it's a while back - maybe they fixed that by now
16:49:07 <Napkin> the mailinglist didn't seem to interested about it though
16:49:11 <ens> i did an install from scratch on all the source to get webtiles up and running. i'm surprised by how smoothly it all went. good work folks.
16:49:34 <Napkin> good job, ens :)
16:49:55 <greensnark> ens: Cool, are you hosting your own webtiles server?
16:50:04 <ens> i accidently tried to use it with python3.1 though, which was a source of difficulty... so i had to download and compile 2.7
16:50:24 <ens> greensnark: yeah, getting a static ip routed for it on monday.
16:50:57 <Napkin> what do you use to keep user-data, ens?
16:51:27 <ens> i... don't know :)
16:51:40 <Napkin> :-O
16:52:43 <ens> i have a bunch of asian kids in my basement and i force them to memorise the numbers.
16:53:02 <Napkin> as long as the python api exists ;>
16:54:16 <ens> i thought the whole shebang used sqllite flatfile type stuff?
16:54:56 <Napkin> so far it used dgl's sqlite db
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16:57:20 <greensnark> Napkin: Have you run into dgl hanging on the shm semaphore
16:57:26 <Napkin> yes
16:57:28 <Napkin> twice
16:57:40 <greensnark> cao hit it a couple of times
16:57:54 <greensnark> And last week when I was playing with dgl install process I hit it once
16:58:19 <Napkin> did dgl help you out of it with it's parameters?
16:58:20 <greensnark> I can't figure out what's causing it, but I was testing hangup when it happened local
16:58:35 <Napkin> that didn't work for me.. and i removed it manually
16:58:44 <greensnark> Well, I can unlock the semaphore by attaching gdb to the locked dgl
16:58:54 <Napkin> geek ;>
16:59:04 <greensnark> But I'm wondering what exactly causes it :)
16:59:28 <Napkin> I like when you wonder... I know how that usually ends :)
16:59:52 <greensnark> I don't know if nao has had trouble with it
17:00:08 <greensnark> If not, maybe it's something that got fixed and we haven't updated our crawlized dgl?
17:00:18 <greensnark> Remind me of the official dgl repo? :)
17:00:32 <Napkin> uuuh
17:00:56 <Napkin> http://git.develz.org/?p=dgamelaunch.git;a=summary
17:01:06 <Napkin> i have an upstream there, but not sure.. seems old
17:01:13 <Napkin> didn't someone continue it in git?
17:01:22 <greensnark> I thought paxed still uses svn
17:01:28 <Napkin> git clone git://github.com/paxed/dgamelaunch.git
17:01:49 <greensnark> Oh, neat
17:01:54 <greensnark> Thank you :)
17:01:54 <Napkin> i also remember his vehement arguments against it once, yes ;D
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17:04:24 <greensnark> Oh cool, lots of crawly changes have made their way upstream
17:04:57 <Napkin> you say cool, i say omg i have to manually merge again! ;)
17:05:12 <greensnark> :)
17:05:25 <Napkin> or did paxed take those changes as you wrote them?
17:05:42 <greensnark> Oh, I was referring to all the unicode stuff and your changes
17:05:49 <greensnark> I haven't changed dgl in a very long time :)
17:06:06 <Napkin> kilobyte did that work
17:06:09 <greensnark> Stuff like 'Add option -i <name> to initialize a player externally. (Marc H. Thoben <root@develz.org>)'
17:06:19 <Napkin> i just hacked some status stuff in
17:06:20 <greensnark> I find the root@develz.org mildly entertaining :)
17:06:44 <Napkin> oh yes, that was needed for webtiles registration
17:06:53 <Napkin> ;-P
17:07:10 <Napkin> well, dgl runs as root, so source belongs to root! ;)
17:07:22 <greensnark> I'm quite convinced :D
17:11:28 <Napkin> dooh.. someone showed me diablo3 on thursday...
17:11:37 <Napkin> and i so tried to prevent that!
17:11:53 <greensnark> Well, you didn't seriously expect to not see it at some point :)
17:12:04 <HangedMan> ...greensnark, you control varmin, right?
17:12:20 <Napkin> i'm an optimist!
17:12:24 <greensnark> HangedMan: aye
17:12:52 <HangedMan> being stuck somewhere in 0.10 trunk while being in the middle of 0.11 trunk means there are lots of fun things missing from fightclub
17:13:11 <greensnark> Oh, right, fightclub
17:13:19 <greensnark> I suppose I can update it
17:13:40 <greensnark> One last update; I need to move it to the new server as well
17:14:00 <HangedMan> wonderous
17:14:59 <greensnark> I had to kill c-splat because that code was silly about predownloading ttyrecs and I was running out of space
17:15:34 <HangedMan> the terms for splats were getting obsolete anyway
17:15:45 <greensnark> Yeah, that too
17:15:59 <greensnark> I was tempted to drop the splat column when switching to postgres
17:16:07 <greensnark> It was always so hacky in Sequell
17:17:30 <greensnark> !fight rat v goblin
17:17:36 <greensnark> Oops :P
17:18:11 <HangedMan> welp?
17:22:17 <greensnark> My contribs appear not to have aged gracefully
17:22:24 <greensnark> I'm rebuilding with updated contribs
17:24:22 <CIA-115> 03dolorous * r93ce22fd21bd 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Add gender, punctuation, and wording fixes.
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17:26:23 <Napkin> off to bed
17:26:35 <Napkin> keep tight, greensnark o/
17:26:47 <Napkin> :)
17:27:22 <greensnark> Gnight :)
17:32:27 <greensnark> !fight rat v goblin
17:33:03 <greensnark> HangedMan: updated now
17:33:18 <HangedMan> yay
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18:06:34 <CIA-115> 03dolorous * r0dc9e001a3a1 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Add more gender, punctuation, and wording fixes.
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18:34:11 <ussdefiant> umm, guys, weren't you going to remove Fulsome/Evaporate at some point Really Soon?
18:34:57 <HangedMan> pff, first the translation project has to not end badly
18:35:14 <BlastHardcheese> shhhh
18:35:23 <HangedMan> and suppression has to be done so spider can be sad to be finished-ish so it can stop appearing every game
18:35:27 <HangedMan> and, uh
18:35:30 <ussdefiant> so it's safe for me to memorize them out of the book of Alchemy?
18:35:51 <HangedMan> and monster spell sources have to make sense
18:36:01 <HangedMan> and monster genuses/species have to make sense
18:41:53 <evilmike> ussdefiant: it's been brought up before but not in a "really soon" sort of way. Also, even if the spells were to be removed tomorrow, it is safe for you to memorize them today
18:42:09 <evilmike> when stuff is removed from crawl it tends to just get disabled. Doesn't break old saves
18:42:30 <HangedMan> except for the save-compat break
18:43:14 <ussdefiant> FR: Antique Shops should have a Buyer Beware sign outside
18:44:46 <alefury> evilmike: well, a lot of people seemed to agree on removing it a few days ago
18:45:07 <alefury> together with the stalker background
18:45:12 <evilmike> oh, alright. I'm not fully up to date at the moment
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19:11:50 <dtsund> Did Tukima's Dance get another nerf after the 0.6 nerf?
19:14:09 <monqy> commit 65e521efc5bfb2ad74fe75dc8f9fefab350bfd1b
19:14:10 <monqy> Author: Raphael Langella <raphael.langella@gmail.com>
19:14:10 <monqy> Date:   Wed Feb 16 00:38:09 2011 +0100
19:14:10 <monqy> Fix Tukima's Dance ignoring spell power.
19:14:10 <monqy> It was cast with a constant power of 180 instead of the actual spell power.
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19:15:01 <monqy> it was bugfixed without being rebalanced, I guess
19:15:13 <monqy> not that it was balanced before the bugfix but
19:16:30 <dtsund> Aha.  But that was before 0.8 was released... were these uberclubs in an alpha?
19:16:40 <monqy> yeah
19:16:51 <monqy> !lg . ogwz x=v
19:17:17 <Sequell> 2. [v=0.8.0-a0] monqy the Ogre Mage (L25 OgWz), worshipper of The Shining One, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2011-02-06, with 1124506 points after 134130 turns and 11:34:46.
19:17:44 <monqy> (snake, vaults, and tomb; I skipped shoals)
19:17:44 <dtsund> Hah, about ten days before the nerf.
19:18:49 <monqy> I imagine everyone using tukima's dance and tukima's ball on giant spiked clubs (that way you don't even have to be tr/og!) brought it to attention
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19:34:11 <res> ??tukima's ball
19:34:12 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled tukimas_ball in my learndb.
19:34:27 <dtsund> Mass Tukima's Dance.
19:34:38 <dtsund> I think it was made monster-only.
19:35:36 <monqy> but there aren't any monsters that can cast it since it was removed from panlords and terpsichore was either removed or doesn't generate
19:35:53 <monqy> so effectively it's gone, if not actually 100% gone
19:37:20 <HangedMan> she's removed
19:38:25 <HangedMan> I want to eventually make hall of blades into a serial vault or something because it's just so ignorable and doesn't have much intent built into the map, and terpsichore would have been good there, sigh
19:38:51 <Patashu> make crypt a serial vault too
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19:39:04 <HangedMan> no, because crypt:5
19:39:12 <HangedMan> also undead.des doesn't play out very well
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19:47:30 <Eronarn> http://i.imgur.com/2Lb86.jpg in case people here didn't see it
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19:50:54 <Eronarn> also here's an unedited draft of a pact god proposal http://pastebin.com/4VNdYAXG
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20:36:09 <HangedMan> actually watching a hopr game in webtiles with the ridiculous drawing glitch kind of highlights how bad that bug is, what would it take to fix it
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21:18:12 <greensnark> !lm *
21:18:21 <Sequell> 3483539. [2012-05-21] nfogravity the Firebug (L5 DEFE) killed Grinder on turn 2974. (D:3)
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21:27:23 <dtsund> How often do CAO and CDO do recompiles?
21:30:00 <Zannick> supposed to be daily for trunk, i think
21:30:30 <dtsund> Thought it was something like that.
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23:07:15 <Gretell> Debian builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1934-g0dc9e00
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