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05:00:07 <Gretell> OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-1776-g7de84f1
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05:42:41 <G-Flex> "Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever"?
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07:18:48 <ChrisOelmueller> in http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/jeanjacques/jeanjacques.txt Wyrmbane actions show up counting towards Spear in action_count where i'd expected Lance. is this intentional?
07:19:40 <jeanjacques> nobody created a lance category for it i suppose
07:28:36 <Eronarn> hahaha
07:28:43 <Eronarn> i like how misc in that is 1 (presumably horn of geryon)
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09:05:59 <|amethyst> ChrisOelmueller:  and autumn katana would show up as a long sword
09:06:13 <HangedMan> cutlass shows up as sabre
09:06:25 <HangedMan> devastator as club? staff?
09:06:31 <Eronarn> which is totally fine fyi
09:06:33 <|amethyst> club
09:06:36 <Eronarn> no reason to be concerned over it
09:06:44 <|amethyst> it's not exactly intentional, but it's not worth adding base weapons just for that
09:07:00 <Eronarn> i don't think any of the others even have overlap
09:07:05 <Eronarn> like, there is only the one katana now, right
09:07:15 <HangedMan> essentially
09:07:54 <HangedMan> I wonder if altering base stats may eventually be done to things besides weapons
09:08:08 <Eronarn> perhaps either: A) option to keep track of unique weapons on their own line B) have carried unrands list those stats directly in their desc
09:08:16 <|amethyst> could work on armour
09:08:34 <|amethyst> not sure what else you would change the base stats of
09:08:37 <HangedMan> delicious gdr and aevp
09:08:41 <|amethyst> s/armour/body armour/
09:09:33 <HangedMan> missiles altering?
09:09:42 <Eronarn> can we remove +0 missiles already
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09:10:19 <|amethyst> Sharnga could maybe use base stat changes
09:10:20 <HangedMan> ranged overhaul would take balancing effort
09:10:31 <|amethyst> since it's now a "bow", it's a "bow of Krishna"
09:10:37 <|amethyst> s/now/not/
09:10:55 <HangedMan> making lehudib's crystal spear unrand actually useful shouldn't take that much
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09:13:32 <jeanjacques> auto identified randarts dont get a note like other randarts anymore
09:13:59 <Eronarn> oh that reminds me, gong didn't autoinscribe for me
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09:20:35 <kilobyte> Eronarn: to the contrary, I really prefer elliptic's idea of making _all_ missiles +0
09:21:45 <HangedMan> and changing the mulch rate to match?
09:21:57 <elliptic> I'm not even sure how big a change it would be if we removed ammo enchantment right now and set all ammo to be +3 or so
09:22:52 <ChrisOelmueller> how about just doing it and testing for a few weeks?
09:23:02 <ChrisOelmueller> can't be impossible to revert
09:23:06 <ghallberg> Yeha, test and burn.
09:23:32 <elliptic> probably too strong early game, so I'd expect some formula tweaking would be necessary... but maybe not that much
09:23:51 <HangedMan> only thing that really comes to mind besides the extra damage from darts and stones is needlestabbing nerf
09:24:16 <|amethyst> and makeing EWI less useful
09:24:19 <|amethyst> s/kei/ki/
09:28:00 <elliptic> I wouldn't want to make the change without making some effort to adjust these formulas, but adjusting them a bit doesn't seem that unreasonable because ranged balance is so rough already
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09:35:08 <ChrisOelmueller> fixing ??launcher damage is the next step
09:35:30 <Eronarn> kilobyte: have you tried tome's model? there, they have unlimited +0 ammo for all ranged weapons, and you can find enchanted ammo (which is greater damage, but also provides effects like slow)
09:35:31 <ChrisOelmueller> enchanting missiles could also just be not a thing
09:35:36 <Eronarn> it works *very* well imo
09:35:39 <ChrisOelmueller> and have the mulch rate depend on the launcher or something
09:35:51 <ChrisOelmueller> which for the player would be their throwing skill if it is throwing
09:36:00 <Eronarn> that being said, elliptic's suggestion would be much better than the status quo
09:36:10 <Eronarn> (and remove ammo enchanting)
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09:47:03 <kilobyte> elliptic: instead of a fixed +3, what about altering the effect of launcher's enchantment and/or skill?
09:47:42 <kilobyte> current missile formulas are a big ugly pile of special cases, could rip it out and replace outright, too
09:48:18 <elliptic> kilobyte: ripping out the current missile formulas and replacing with something more reasonable would be great, yes
09:48:35 <elliptic> I just suggested the fixed +3 as something easier
09:48:42 <elliptic> ??launcher damage
09:48:42 <Henzell> launcher damage[1/2]: Average damage = (B/2 + L/8 + A/16 + min((str - 10)*(2B+A)*C, (L+1)/4))*(1+skill/D)*(brand multiplier) + slaying/4 + A/2 + {L/2 if using xbow}. Here A is the ammo enchantment, L is the launcher enchantment, and B, C, and D are constants depending on what type of launcher you are using (see [2]).
09:49:02 <elliptic> and that doesn't even deal with throwing damage
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10:00:49 <Eronarn> what about just using melee formulas as a starting point
10:03:50 <kilobyte> look at the special casing for different types of missiles
10:04:02 <kilobyte> basically, every missile has a whole formula on its own
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10:18:39 <Cheibriados> Branch Help lists wrong depth (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5663) by jejorda2
10:23:35 <kilobyte> hah, I feel an urge to mark this fixed as of 0.11-b1
10:24:29 <MarvinPA> it would be good to automatically generate some of those descriptions too, though
10:25:07 <MarvinPA> same for deck and card descriptions, really
10:26:33 <kilobyte> yeah, cards and decks are badly overdue
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11:25:03 <evilmike> HangedMan: you brought up that removing ammo enchantment would be a needlestabbing nerf. this isnt really true though, because needle enchantment has a pretty small effect
11:25:24 <evilmike> the most important things for a needlestabber are throwing skill and blowgun (not needle) enchantment
11:25:54 <HangedMan> oh
11:26:04 <HangedMan> k
11:28:08 <kilobyte> elliptic: so what's the plan then?  +3 to all ammo?  Seems too good to me, especially in the early game.
11:29:19 <elliptic> kilobyte: yeah... +2 or +1 might be better. I think the mulch rate for +3 is reasonable, though
11:29:46 <elliptic> also we don't have to use the same thing for thrown weapons as for launched
11:29:51 <elliptic> if we don't want to buff darts/stones, that is
11:30:11 <evilmike> what if you just reduced the mulch rate without giving it a +3 enchantment?
11:30:26 <ghallberg> +2 but with 03 mulch?
11:30:28 <ghallberg> +3*
11:32:20 <kilobyte> evilmike: I'd say it's more about inventory management than enchantment
11:34:13 <kilobyte> elliptic: stones are worthless when thrown by the player, do any semi-meaningful damage only for monsters, and then only in the early game or if the monster's HD is high
11:34:53 <kilobyte> still, if you're concerned about the early game, we can use skill/HD instead
11:35:55 <elliptic> kilobyte: I mean that +3 darts are actually really good early on
11:36:46 <elliptic> one possibility for launched weapons: use missile enchantment = launcher enchantment
11:36:51 <elliptic> er, launched missiles
11:37:07 <elliptic> and then leave non-launched missiles at +0 for damage calculation
11:37:24 <elliptic> mulch calculation can be completely separate from this, of course
11:38:01 <kilobyte> elliptic: +3 stones are good early on, yeah, +0 are worthless (unless your maxhp is 9)
11:38:06 <elliptic> yes
11:38:15 <elliptic> except for jellies
11:38:33 <kilobyte> it's a long kite without a sling
11:41:39 <HangedMan> tempted to ask for speed 8 jellies to also help with the tedium of kiting jellies
11:42:21 <st_> how about speed 10 jellies to stop that
11:42:33 <Dixie> or speed 11
11:43:15 <elliptic> +1 for speed 10 jellies, though they should possibly be nerfed a bit along with that
11:43:19 <elliptic> maybe by reducing HP a bit
11:44:38 <evilmike> bit of a weird suggestion: what if they got slow attacks?
11:44:39 <Dixie> how about make rocks do 300% more damage to jellies
11:45:03 <evilmike> I think "slow melee monster" ideas would work better if they moved normally but attacked slowly, rather than do everything slowly
11:45:42 <HangedMan> wouldn't that result in actually-threatening-but-still-tedious melee-kiting?
11:46:17 <Dixie> wouldn't that play like early giant worms
11:46:29 <HangedMan> regular worms
11:47:03 <evilmike> you'd need swiftness to melee kite it
11:47:09 <evilmike> slow attacks would make it kind of like an ogrer
11:47:11 <evilmike> ogre*
11:47:21 <HangedMan> oh, fair enough then
11:48:59 <ChrisOelmueller> +1 on speed 10 jellies
11:58:22 <kilobyte> about the "make everything speed 10" thingy: Hell Sentinels have no business being that fast (and are effectively <speed 10 since they cast).  Their theme and desc strongly says they're slow, and they have LOS range attacks so there'd be no meaningful loss.
11:58:33 <kilobyte> but bone dragons kind of need to be sped up
11:59:01 <ChrisOelmueller> do jellies get some kind of delay when they eat stuff?
11:59:43 <CIA-115> 03elliptic * rec6e988c33c2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/lua/autofight.lua l_moninf.cc): Give lua access to monster names.
11:59:46 <kilobyte> no ranged attack, heavy melee damage, occur in midgame where folks may not yet have boots of running/blink/etc
11:59:53 <CIA-115> 03elliptic * rd89cc349d604 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/lua/autofight.lua: Autofight: break ties in favor of orc priests/wizards.
12:00:51 <ChrisOelmueller> if they don't, you could implement that and make them speed 10.. so it is an option to lure them to items (which heals or even splits them, but may give you a gap in return) if you want to escape
12:00:51 <kilobyte> for autofight, I wonder whether autothrow should do nothing if you have high Stabbing and the monster is sleeping
12:00:51 <ChrisOelmueller> for fighting them, speed 9 or 10 doesn't make a huge difference anyways
12:01:22 <elliptic> kilobyte: I can't imagine anyone using autothrow after very early game anyway; I guess it could be relevant for En or As though
12:01:44 <elliptic> if that's what you mean by high stabbing
12:03:02 <kilobyte> Baileys with 598673389 axes of returning...
12:03:39 <kilobyte> Shoals have far more javelins than you can mulch
12:04:06 <elliptic> kilobyte: you still have much better things to do with your moves generally
12:04:33 <kilobyte> depends on the character; a pure melee one tends to have nothing to do usually
12:04:53 <elliptic> if the monster is dangerous, wands or god abilities or whatever
12:05:06 <kilobyte> if the monster is dangerous, you don't autofight
12:05:06 <elliptic> if the monster isn't dangerous, who cares?
12:05:15 <elliptic> you can just hit it with your axe
12:05:30 <kilobyte> it's still better to have autofight more efficient
12:05:47 <elliptic> my melee chars use javelins for fleeing monsters and regularly run out of them
12:06:09 <kilobyte> and people tend to shift-autofight when in a corridor
12:06:13 <kilobyte> elliptic: after Shoals?
12:06:22 <elliptic> throwing your five javelins before the monster even starts fleeing isn't great
12:06:42 <elliptic> pure melee chars have a hard enough time in shoals that I'll be XL 24 at that point
12:06:46 <elliptic> and doing V:8 and zot
12:06:49 <elliptic> not worrying about javelins
12:07:34 <elliptic> I don't really get the impression that people use shift-autofight
12:08:04 <kilobyte> <3 it in a kobold room
12:08:32 <kilobyte> or against your average pack of uglies in Vaults
12:09:47 <elliptic> I mean, shift-autofight clearly is nice in some ways... I should probably macro it to something more convenient than shift-tab and use it
12:09:48 <ChrisOelmueller> oh shoals is guaranteed? wasn't aware of that
12:10:26 <ghallberg> I think I need shift-autofight.
12:10:31 <elliptic> the other thing about javelins is that they weigh a ton
12:10:31 <ghallberg> I learn stuff every day...
12:10:56 <elliptic> especially the steel ones (and the others mulch fast)
12:12:38 <kilobyte> axes of returnings don't mulch, unless you're careless around jellies/water
12:12:43 <elliptic> anyway I'm not trying to say that autothrow can't possibly be useful, just that I wouldn't really worry about hypothetical javelin-stabbers :)
12:12:55 <elliptic> axes of returning are pretty awful
12:13:02 <kilobyte> you get only a few of them, even the Bailey will give you ~10-15 at most.
12:13:10 <elliptic> you can't carry that many though
12:13:16 <elliptic> so many slots
12:14:00 <kilobyte> yeah, but with a few points of Throwing, they'll last more than any stack of javelins would
12:14:38 <kilobyte> 5 axes with 10 Throwing give you 50 throws on the average
12:14:43 <elliptic> and do less damage
12:15:07 <elliptic> I don't see people using axes of returning, and for good reason
12:15:19 <kilobyte> well, beats standing there pressing '.'
12:15:42 <kilobyte> what else are you doing with that turn?
12:15:53 <MarvinPA> i use shift-autofight incidentally
12:16:05 <elliptic> zapping a wand, retreating to a better location, etc
12:16:11 <MarvinPA> it's pretty useful
12:16:43 <kilobyte> there's few useful wands, and you already were in a corridor
12:16:48 <elliptic> also if you get chased away from that location and a skeletal warrior or some such picks up the axe, it can be pretty bad
12:17:46 <kilobyte> unlike that steel javelin, that axe of returning won't stay there
12:17:51 <elliptic> MarvinPA: do you use it on shift-tab or macro it to something else? I just find shift-tab really awkward to hit
12:17:52 <kilobyte> (usually)
12:18:06 <MarvinPA> i have it on shift+tab still
12:18:07 <Eronarn> still think we should remove throwing spears/axes/daggers/clubs
12:18:17 <elliptic> Eronarn: +1
12:18:36 <elliptic> kilobyte: it will also do 0 damage usually
12:18:56 <Eronarn> works totally different from other ranged, can easily be replaced by items for this (we already added javelins; could do throwing knives or throwing axes)
12:19:48 <Eronarn> also if everything has limited mulching ammo it makes it much easier to balance
12:24:56 <evilmike> elliptic: I use shift-autofight obsessively when I have a chei character
12:25:04 <evilmike> other than that I usually don't use it that much
12:27:19 <elliptic> I guess the other reason why I don't use shift-autofight is that it is awful if even a single ranged monster is present
12:27:49 <MarvinPA> well it just aborts by default if there's nothing next to you, i think?
12:28:03 <elliptic> oh, it doesn't wait? somehow I thought it did
12:28:09 <MarvinPA> i know i had a different version at some point that waited
12:28:20 <elliptic> oh right
12:28:21 <MarvinPA> which was also sort of handy for being really lazy and spamming while monsters come to you
12:29:02 <MarvinPA> but yeah, that version isn't so great other than that :P
12:29:03 <elliptic> well, the axe-throwing version would be awful against ranged monsters
12:29:13 <Gretell> shackes (L26 MfHu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed. (Abyss)
12:29:14 <elliptic> even if better than the wait-spamming one
12:29:22 <kilobyte> yeah, you don't autothrow against a yaktaur captain
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12:29:41 <kilobyte> !lm shackes type=crash -log
12:29:43 <Sequell> 2. shackes, XL26 MfHu, T:72185 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/shackes/crash-shackes-20120512-172904.txt
12:30:04 <kilobyte> bleh, webtiles and old bugs
12:32:50 <elliptic> there's also the thing that you could just swap to a launcher and probably do more damage
12:43:55 <kilobyte> does anyone have any pending edits to throwing code?  I'd start by moving it to a separate file.
12:46:23 <elliptic> I don't think anyone has touched throwing code in years :P
12:47:50 <kilobyte> heh, right
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13:42:25 <Cheibriados> A new serial vault with ruined pillars (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5664) by infiniplex
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15:23:47 <ghallberg> Is it just my imagination or did super-early D get easier again?
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15:34:37 <ghallberg> And then I get that fucking level.
15:34:41 <ghallberg> Not funnny.
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15:35:22 <galehar> hey
15:35:32 <ghallberg> hey
15:43:28 <ghallberg> galehar: Did the difficulty of the first few levels change again?
15:43:42 <ghallberg> Or as it just my imagination that it changed in the first place?
15:46:04 <kilobyte> no, although the monster set there is in a dire need of a rebalance
15:46:29 <ghallberg> Some stuff is just really annoying...
15:46:32 <HangedMan> d:1 isn't bad
15:46:37 <ghallberg> HangedMan: It's boring.
15:46:54 <HangedMan> what more do you want from the monsters viable at that character strength range
15:47:29 <ghallberg> Some kind of challenge.
15:47:34 <ghallberg> Somethign to avoid
15:47:50 <ghallberg> I'm not sure
15:48:01 <HangedMan> kobold/hogoblin/goblin with glowing weapons/armour
15:48:06 <HangedMan> jackal pack in open space
15:48:10 <ghallberg> I guess
15:52:29 <galehar> kilobyte: speaking of monster generation, do you have ideas of how to improve level differentiation of short branches?
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16:01:14 <frogbotherer> right, i'm [---] this close to having some patches for mantis for the (working!) android tiles port
16:01:29 <frogbotherer> but i need to ask some awkward questions about where i can put build scripts
16:01:35 <frogbotherer> anyone up for it? :D
16:01:38 <kilobyte> galehar: yeah, I'm thinking about rewriting the way mon-pick is written
16:01:51 <ghallberg> frogbotherer: Is it regular tiles or webtiles?
16:01:59 <frogbotherer> regular tiles
16:02:04 <kilobyte> frogbotherer: what's the diff size compared to regular builds?
16:02:16 <kilobyte> frogbotherer: the last time I looked, there was a whole separate makefile
16:02:29 <frogbotherer> i merged them this evening
16:02:37 <frogbotherer> 31 files changed, 814 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
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16:03:05 <frogbotherer> including 101 lines of documentation :D
16:03:35 <kilobyte> galehar: my current idea is to have an array rather than code, listing both rarity and depth in one line
16:03:56 <galehar> frogbotherer: maybe merge branchs would be easier
16:04:04 <frogbotherer> basically, because of the way the SDL library works, there's a config file and a shell script that wants to live in the root of the project
16:05:12 <frogbotherer> galehar: i cloned the repo and stuck everything in master (i'm totally new to git), so i dunno if i can do that
16:05:34 <kilobyte> depth could be done in one of three ways: 1. as a percentage of the branch's size (OODs would add a percentage rather than a number of levels), 2. as depth (either number or percentage) plus "breadth" (instead of having rarity do both), 3. having a range written outright
16:06:01 <frogbotherer> the alternative is that i can put the config file and shell script in with the SDL library instead
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16:06:26 <galehar> kilobyte: that sounds like making the algorithm easier to understand and balance. That sounds pretty good!
16:06:36 <frogbotherer> which is how the SCUMMVM port works
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16:07:36 <kilobyte> galehar: which variant? :p
16:08:26 <kilobyte> frogbotherer: the compilation works on an Android device like everywhere else, right?  Or is it some mad cross-compile setup?
16:08:52 <frogbotherer> kilobyte: it's definitely the latter
16:09:17 <frogbotherer> you compile crawl as a shared library and then wrap it in a java app using JNI
16:09:19 <kilobyte> beh, I thought only iJunk is not capable of running a compiler
16:09:33 <frogbotherer> it still uses gcc tho
16:09:55 <frogbotherer> just gcc wrapped in not-really-makefiles wrapped in horrid shell scripts
16:10:01 <kilobyte> is the cross-build environment available in some reasonable way, to allow nightly builds and so on?
16:10:20 <galehar> kilobyte: how about mixing it up? uniques use 3 for example, they could be placed by the monster generator instead of vaults
16:10:28 <frogbotherer> yeah, it's all proper OSS
16:11:25 <kilobyte> galehar: current formula has a parabola for mon-pick and a rectangle for uniques
16:12:10 <kilobyte> galehar: do we want a parabola scaled onto the (rarity)x(range) rectangle?
16:12:13 <galehar> frogbotherer: have you pushed your git clone to gitorious?
16:12:18 <frogbotherer> yep
16:12:27 <kilobyte> frogbotherer: any other reachable place is good, too
16:12:29 <frogbotherer> https://gitorious.org/~frogbotherer/crawl/android-crawl
16:13:00 <frogbotherer> you need the SDL library port too, which is here: https://github.com/frogbotherer/commandergenius
16:13:17 <frogbotherer> (which is 99.99% not mine, btw :))
16:14:35 <galehar> kilobyte: btw, the android port supports unicode :)
16:14:52 <frogbotherer> galehar: only sort of!
16:15:02 <kilobyte> galehar, frogbotherer: er, wait, in the GLish local tiles?
16:15:20 <frogbotherer> all i did was make "smart-quotes" work
16:15:29 <frogbotherer> because i thought it was an android bug :(
16:15:37 <kilobyte> frogbotherer: and what about other characters?
16:15:37 <galehar> oh ok
16:16:23 <frogbotherer> kilobyte: it has everything in unicode right up until it hits fontwrapper-ft.cc
16:16:52 <frogbotherer> but there's a 256 entry array of glyphs and anything outside that gets translated to upside-down question marks
16:17:17 <kilobyte> :(
16:17:18 <frogbotherer> (i just bodged in some win1251 character mappings)
16:17:44 <kilobyte> not nice, I hoped for something that gets rid of that 256 entry array
16:18:14 <frogbotherer> i did look at the way Wesnoth does it, and their equivalent seems to make a couple of SDL calls instead of all that glyph nastiness
16:19:21 <frogbotherer> otherwise i might've made a better fist of it :D
16:20:11 <ghallberg> anything related to SDL won't helt console anyway right?
16:20:31 <kilobyte> that "couple of SDL calls" is probably right what we need
16:21:30 <frogbotherer> it was a bit daunting to me - you'd basically be taking out all of the font loading, caching and rendering code and replacing it with some SDL magic
16:21:47 <frogbotherer> i just wanted to get crawl working on my android tab :'(
16:22:23 <ghallberg> kilobyte: How would that help us?
16:22:27 <ghallberg> I'm a noob .
16:22:37 <kilobyte> ripping out that font loading is a good thing
16:23:13 <kilobyte> ghallberg: tiles desperately need Unicode support, or I'd have to disable most of translations work
16:23:35 <kilobyte> and there's no one with skills to do this
16:24:40 <frogbotherer> i'll have a crack at it if you like
16:25:06 <frogbotherer> no promises tho, off on honeymoon on friday and a bit green when it comes to this stuff
16:25:22 <galehar> frogbotherer: that would be great yeah :)
16:25:45 <galehar> honeymoon? congrats! :)
16:26:07 <frogbotherer> ha! thanks - Japan for two weeks - it's going to be awesome
16:26:59 <galehar> have fun!
16:27:39 <galehar> you're taking your tab?
16:27:51 <frogbotherer> yeah of course :D
16:27:59 <galehar> :)
16:32:49 <kilobyte> too late to warn you, I guess.  Had my sis yesterday, getting evicted from my own bed in my own place onto the couch because of the kid, and told to go to sleep at 22:00, makes me feel sorry for all married folks :p
16:34:00 <frogbotherer> haha thanks :D
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16:41:07 <frogbotherer> here we go: an example of OpenGL+SDL+TTF and unicode font rendering: https://github.com/frogbotherer/commandergenius/blob/sdl_android/project/jni/sdl_ttf/glfont.c
16:42:00 <frogbotherer> now to get the crowbar out and see if i can wedge it into fontwrapper-ft
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17:45:28 <CIA-115> 03galehar * r83a1b3d123b9 10/crawl-ref/source/util/text-wrap.pl: Remove an obsolete script.
17:45:28 <CIA-115> 03galehar * rbef9f29b23aa 10/crawl-ref/source/ (l_debug.cc scripts/place-population.lua): Add mimics to place-population.lua stats
17:54:20 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r9a3f12d43ac1 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/backgrounds.txt: Don't claim primary hunter weapons depend on species -- they get to choose.
17:54:20 <CIA-115> 03kilobyte * r1fe207f328be 10/crawl-ref/source/ (17 files): Move throwing code out of item_use.cc
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19:49:48 <dtsund> Why do I get lua errors when trying to use lua:restrict_door in a dungeon vault, but not in Sprint vaults?
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20:19:26 <dtsund> Oh, I see.
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20:44:27 <SteampunkDuck> Hi guys, I just updated my git repo, tried a make tiles=y, it looks to me like a recent change may have an error:
20:44:30 <SteampunkDuck> item_use.cc: In function ‘bool _prompt_eat_bad_food(item_def)’:
20:44:31 <SteampunkDuck> item_use.cc:3349:35: error: ‘colour_to_str’ was not declared in this scope
20:44:34 <SteampunkDuck> make: *** [item_use.o] Error 1
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21:04:02 <|amethyst> SteampunkDuck:  what, people actually do local tiles builds? :P
21:04:15 <SteampunkDuck> Well I play ascii on cao
21:04:16 <|amethyst> looks like it just needs an #include
21:04:41 <SteampunkDuck> but sometimes its nice to play the tiles too
21:04:49 <SteampunkDuck> what file has to be included?
21:05:04 <|amethyst> colour.h
21:06:01 <SteampunkDuck> ill check it out
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21:10:00 <SteampunkDuck> yep that fixed it
21:13:37 <|amethyst> SteampunkDuck:  pushed to trunk, thanks
21:14:27 <SteampunkDuck> np
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21:15:58 <CIA-115> 03|amethyst * r3fa52a44caa6 10/crawl-ref/source/item_use.cc: Fix local tiles builds.
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23:38:09 <elliptic> !tell kilobyte the banishment immunity you coded doesn't seem to work, see !lm ophanim trck type=abyss.exit 1 x=turn and !lm ophanim trck type=abyss.enter 2 x=turn
23:38:09 <Henzell> elliptic: OK, I'll let kilobyte know.
23:43:56 <evilmike> are you sure that was the latest version? iirc ophanim has a habit of not upgrading saves
23:46:07 <elliptic> yes, I checked the version
23:46:28 <elliptic> (7de84f1)
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23:49:50 <elliptic> aha, I see why
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23:50:27 <elliptic> !tell kilobyte it looks like BEAM_BANISH sets you.banished directly rather than calling you.banish(), so I guess that's why
23:50:28 <Henzell> elliptic: OK, I'll let kilobyte know.