00:49:24 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 3.6.27/20120216013254]] 01:20:47 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 01:36:01 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 02:19:29 Jet (L1 HESt) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:1) 02:31:26 http://www.tigsource.com/2012/03/05/dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-v0-10-save-the-pacific-northwest-tree-octopus/ 02:33:18 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:34:39 -!- GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:35 nice 02:41:44 tigsource coverage does not hurt at all 02:53:06 Rosham (L3 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:2) 03:01:48 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:37 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:06:12 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:06:38 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:19 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:31:14 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 03:53:52 -!- nfogravity has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:15:45 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:20:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:27:13 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:27:34 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 04:47:51 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 05:00:07 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-338-g6337f06 05:07:03 ctair (L1 DEEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:1) 05:47:58 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 05:49:40 -!- GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:30 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:25 seems like you don't fumble in water when using reaching 06:20:53 -!- SamB has quit [*.net *.split] 06:20:54 -!- PoopBridge has quit [*.net *.split] 06:23:47 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:47 -!- PoopBridge has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:30:35 galehar: you can also use reaching while caught in a net 06:33:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 06:33:47 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 06:34:52 or is it because I'm a centaur? 06:34:59 size large don't fumble 06:36:40 yeah, that's it. reaching as no effect on fumbling 06:36:58 well, I think the net thing is actually a bug 06:37:35 elliptic: I agree 06:40:15 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Page closed] 06:57:34 oh, someone added a "are you sure you want to play"-question to trunk on CDO? 07:15:29 03galehar * re9a2c9b9433a 10/crawl-ref/source/evoke.cc: Being held in a net prevents the use of reaching weapons. 07:15:30 03galehar * r11d03e6aedf3 10/crawl-ref/source/ (enum.h main.cc stuff.cc): Make "held in a net" a canned message. 07:16:11 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:19 -!- ctair has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:46:44 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:34 03|amethyst * r973844d8bf02 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc: Don't credit kills when crawling corpses merge. 08:26:38 darksquall (L3 OpVM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:2) 08:45:39 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 08:49:54 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:16 03galehar * r0e8e04b7e666 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Don't count banished and merged monsters in kill stats. 09:02:27 03galehar * r5c1b5e17a189 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc: Use KILL_DISMISSED instead of KILL_RESET for monster merging. 09:06:25 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:16:04 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:28:48 -!- ToBeFree has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:21 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 09:40:14 old books show up on spell lookup (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5392) by nagdon 10:08:39 Suckerboh (L3 OgGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:2) 10:24:50 -!- nfogravity has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:30 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.11-a0-355-g5c1b5e1 (32) 11:15:03 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:34 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:28 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20111108220737]] 11:31:10 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:34:32 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:28 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:47:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:47:33 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:01:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:25 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:03:25 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:17:10 darksquall (L4 OpCj) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:3) 12:18:39 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 12:21:50 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 12:32:01 huh. if you have a str of less than 10, your damage output from slings is decreased. poor halflings 12:33:08 also, more weirdly, you do significantly better with a +0 sling than a +1 sling 12:35:22 burn it all 12:35:33 i'm trying to play a HaEE right now 12:35:49 and was trying to figure out how sling damage is calculated 12:39:23 this is a giant trainwreck 12:39:52 is there a way in wizmode to see how much damage things actually do? i need to test this 12:49:27 there's a command to test combat rounds, isn't there? 12:51:12 i go to wizmode, hit f, it spends a bit computing some damage stats 12:51:16 and then doesn't output anything 12:52:10 perhaps it's melee only? 12:52:20 it puts the output in some file somewhere 12:52:26 but I don't remember whether it is melee only 12:52:37 or where the file is :P 12:53:09 how convenient 12:54:51 fight.stat, apparently 12:57:32 whooooa something is wrong 12:57:52 for a SpEn vs a worm with his +1 dagger 12:57:59 0 | 0.0 | 100% | 3.33 | 3.33 | 3.33 | 15 | 10.0 12:57:59 1 | 0.0 | 100% | 1.50 | 1.50 | 1.58 | 5 | 9.5 12:58:28 the 3.33s are average damage, hit damage, and effective damage 12:58:33 the 15 is max damage 12:59:01 what are the two lines? 12:59:07 skill 0 and skill 1 12:59:10 with daggers 12:59:58 I wouldn't be at all surprised if UCC made those stats not work 13:00:06 ucc? 13:00:10 ??ucc 13:00:12 I don't have a page labeled ucc in my learndb. 13:00:32 unified combat control, cryptic's massive rewrite of the melee code 13:01:08 the top line of fsim is always wrong for some reason, ignore it 13:01:32 is everything else right, as far as you know? 13:01:49 i think so 13:07:45 maybe someone should fix that :P 13:08:11 i'd like to get my previous changes committed before i start anything new 13:09:34 see you next year 13:09:45 :V 13:17:31 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:18 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:19:18 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 13:19:35 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:39 i'm not quite sure what the difference between av.dam, av.hitdam and eff.dam is 13:24:28 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:25:48 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:34 ??ranged combat[1] 13:29:34 ranged combat[1/3]: Nobody understands ranged combat. 13:33:34 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:34:15 ?? tourney 13:34:16 tournament[1/3]: The 0.10 tournament will be Feb 25-Mar 12: http://seleniac.org/crawl/tourney/12a/ Ping-elliptic if you have any questions about it or notice any problems with the tournament scripts. 13:34:30 yeah fsim is a little broken 13:35:08 it's calculating a +0 gsc as having 100% accuracy 13:35:13 effective damage looks right though 13:36:31 oh no wait 13:40:24 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:42:58 yeah right now it only calculates accuracy for ranged weapons, not melee 13:50:39 -!- hashc_work has joined ##crawl-dev 13:53:56 -!- ToBeFree has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:55:24 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:57:30 oh that's a single-line error, i can fix that 14:04:36 Napkin: Hallo! 14:05:37 moin :) 14:07:01 Danke! 14:07:57 ich hoffe, ich habe nicht zu viel gelabert? 14:08:34 Nein, war prima. 14:09:28 gut :) 14:09:39 Napkin: how much does the server cost? 14:10:11 CDO? 73€ - but the current offer from hetzner for 49€ is better 14:10:37 monthly? 14:11:02 i have the old offer for 69€ with 1€ per additional ip (5 in total) 14:11:19 yes, monthly 14:11:49 the current 49€ offer has 16gb ram and 3tb disks as raid1 (very, very important) 14:12:05 and the cpu scores ~9000 points instead of 6000 points 14:12:25 i would switch, but i have no time to copy/setup CDO again at the moment 14:14:36 how long does it take? A full weekend, or even more_ 14:14:39 _ = ? 14:23:05 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:06 late here 14:24:08 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: bye] 14:33:27 http://dev.naver.com/projects/crawl-korean/ 14:34:04 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:37:51 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:21 -!- hashc_work has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:40:01 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:40:48 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:48:09 hey, um, quick up or down 14:48:14 up 14:48:32 wait did you want an arbitrary answer 14:48:38 no, i have a question 14:49:21 how much would the game change if you could hit a button and it would display data like "you think you have a good/bad chance of hitting this monster with your current weapon. you think you could do a lot/not much damage with a successful hit." 14:56:11 you mean brogue style? 14:56:16 is it? 14:56:19 it is 14:56:58 well neat, is it good? :D 14:57:05 brogue says: you have x% chance of hitting the monster and if you do you will on average do y% of monster HP damage. At best you can defeat it in z hits. 14:57:07 is brogue considered semimature at this point 14:57:08 same for monsters vs you 14:57:21 that seems like too much info 14:57:36 its really the minimum that does any good imo 14:57:48 i like how the current hp system works: it shows rough hp 14:57:49 and it is a lot of info 14:57:57 which is probably while crawl opted for giving none at all 14:58:53 Dixbert: i dont know what you mean by semimature 14:59:02 it is in active development, but it is playable and quite good 14:59:14 that sounds semimature by my standards 14:59:27 vague language on my part :P 15:00:18 -!- jeanjacques_ has quit [] 15:00:37 btw, s/while/why 15:19:53 nago (L10 KoSt) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:7) 15:28:44 even with random appearance, Ashenzari makes the Robe of Misfortune no fun :( 15:30:35 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:41:04 isnt it just identified? 15:41:08 or at least identified as cursed? 15:41:26 thats really no worse than it not spawning at all 15:43:41 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 15:48:12 identified, yeah... 15:48:41 it's a matter of a single scroll of remove curse anyway, too 15:49:17 any bad cursed item is. i dont think bad fixedarts are worth making an exception for 15:52:28 artefacts tend to be randomly cursed, it doesn't leak any info other than not being holy wrath, I think 15:57:40 could rc scrolls be removed? there are other ways to discourage taking off items, like faith, gourmand and vamp items have. one thing that could work is a random bad effect on taking off the cursed item (random out of rot, slow+noise, teleport near enemies (as the xom effect), ...) 15:58:13 rc scrolls are very very rarely interesting 15:58:30 how exactly would you remove a cursed item then? 15:58:37 just take it off, and suffer the curse 15:59:33 ah, makes sense 15:59:48 it would make plain mummy curses horrible, though, because the curse could actually not be removed, just the item 16:28:40 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31:52 -!- cosh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:33:12 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:55 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:50:19 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:59:13 -!- rawrmage has quit [Quit: Caught sigterm, terminating...] 17:07:24 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:25 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:03 -!- rawrmage has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:22 Firebatgyro (L18 MfIE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:20) 17:10:59 squish (L17 SpSt) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:11) 17:13:16 Palladion (L14 DEFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Orc:4) 17:13:41 edlothiol: I thought the error ^^ was fixed? 17:15:12 yeah, but CDO isn't updated 17:15:43 console was updated repeatedly, but not tiles 17:16:53 edlothiol: btw, it's incredibly hard to interrupt autoexplore. Sometimes it works, but usually key pressed are just ignored. Is it because of the lag? 17:17:06 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:17:44 feydreva (L9 SpEn) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:8) 17:17:49 yes, I'm pretty sure it's just lag, it works fine locally at least 17:19:57 it's kinda funny to find the robe of misfortune in zigsprint 17:19:59 HangedMan: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 17:21:58 http://www.tigsource.com/2012/03/05/dungeon-crawl-stone-soup-v0-10-save-the-pacific-northwest-tree-octopus/#comment-457817573 17:23:26 as far as I can tell, my local copy of crawl refuses to process any subvault names besides those already in use, which is infuriating me 17:44:19 -!- cosh has quit [] 18:55:12 -!- Wensley_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:27 03kilobyte * r9e2087625a97 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-data.h tags.cc wiz-you.cc): Add missing #ifdefs for TAG_MAJOR 32. 19:13:37 03kilobyte * r17454eec64ae 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Make a bunch of functions static. 19:13:38 03kilobyte * r5fc6e5b335ad 10/crawl-ref/source/ (monster.cc player.cc): Remove the bonus for demons in umbra. 19:16:22 -!- alefury has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:18:10 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:27 kilobyte: what about shadow demons and friends? did that get a resolution yet? 19:44:29 03dolorous * r3882fbcfe93f 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix off-by-one error: umbra also works with Yred at piety breakpoint 2 exactly. 19:50:18 can someone maybe explain to me when to declare an object or method as static? 19:52:38 -!- HangedMan has quit [] 20:08:36 ah got it. there's three different meanings, and they're all useful. ugh. 20:42:22 KrazyGaminFreak (L3 MiHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:2) 20:45:00 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:45:21 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:40 -!- PoopBridge|ghost has joined ##crawl-dev 20:46:42 -!- PoopBridge has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:46:44 -!- PoopBridge|ghost is now known as PoopBridge 21:00:00 ugh, reading the skills.cc code is giving me a headache 21:18:43 ctair (L7 VpWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:5) 21:26:59 -!- Dixbert has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:28:03 -!- Dixbert has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:07 good lord this code 21:44:35 the function debug_fight_sim has in its arguments a closure, both of whose values call a function named debug_fight_simulate 21:45:14 it's an elegant way of switching between two functions, i guess, but good lord is it unreadable 22:08:35 Atma (L7 MiMo) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:4) 22:39:34 -!- Wensley_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:40:28 Zukt (L8 NaWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:6) 23:02:24 -!- nfogravity has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:02:35 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:00 -!- nfogravity has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:30 -!- Ganrao| has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:08 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]