00:03:52 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-319-gc7f5920 (32) 00:21:16 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-319-gc7f5920 00:21:17 -!- umrain has left ##crawl-dev 00:31:38 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:38:18 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:46 cdo_reasons :I 00:40:51 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 3.6.27/20120216013254]] 00:42:59 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:45:00 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Would you like to know more?] 00:49:23 -!- faze has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:45 -!- faze has left ##crawl-dev 00:51:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:28 !tell galehar is it possible to get soundproof walls for vaults? zigsprint doesn't work as well when noise travels through walls 01:17:29 st_: OK, I'll let galehar know. 01:21:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:40:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:46 -!- ctair has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:25 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 01:59:44 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:13 st_: not right now, but I'll look into it 02:08:13 galehar: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 02:08:17 !messages 02:08:17 (1/2) kilobyte said (7h 7m 11s ago): looking at certain vaults, I wonder if perhaps walls of different type should have different sound attenuation. Like, waking the Elf:5 vault from the side is abusable. 02:08:27 !messages 02:08:28 (1/1) st_ said (50m 59s ago): is it possible to get soundproof walls for vaults? zigsprint doesn't work as well when noise travels through walls 02:10:36 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:51 how about making permarock sound proof? 02:11:20 since their gameplay purpose is isolation, it should work 02:14:03 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:27:19 03galehar * r50c4d20a4f9d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (noise.h shout.cc): Permarock walls completely block noise. 02:28:46 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:11 -!- Elynae has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:05 -!- Elynae has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:47:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:09:53 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:57 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:34 Aimeelou (L4 HESk) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:4) 03:40:27 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.27/20120216013254]] 03:42:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:42 oh f... whatever is going on on CAO needs to be fixed RIGHT NOW. Or at least, CAO put down. 03:45:10 correction: CAO has put itself down, sort of; good 03:46:29 uh oh. What's happened there? 03:47:07 out of disk space, but I have a feeling it's something else as well 03:47:39 with mere ENOSPACE, things would be consistent, and I see random segfaults, glibc memory errors and what not while trying to start a game 03:57:14 rax, greensnark, Napkin, anyone else who might have the power to help with CAO: ^^ 03:59:02 trying to reproduce it locally: starting a game with saves/ on a full filesystem: "write error while saving: Operation not permitted" -- WTF? Perhaps because I used tmpfs? 04:04:56 yeah, it was tmpfs -- it's a regular write() call, on full ext2 I get correct ENOSPC 04:11:38 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:28 -!- mikee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:24:16 hrm, no way how I try, I can't reproduce full disk causing anything error than exiting with a fail message 04:24:46 and at least in package.cc, every single syscall is checked for failure 04:25:17 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:43:37 darksquall (L2 TeWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:1) 04:45:22 rediz (L5 DrFE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:4) 04:47:27 it might not be a full disk, could be hardware gone kaput 05:00:07 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-320-g50c4d20 05:20:10 -!- greatzebu has quit [Quit: greatzebu] 05:20:40 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:30:53 -!- alefury has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:34:32 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:47 -!- alefury has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50:18 ugh, just found a 0.10 bug that is completely my fault 06:55:46 hey, there's a bulletproof way to avoid such embarassment: just don't do anything! 06:56:30 (the bug is that slaying does absolutely nothing to magical staff melee) 06:56:55 (I discovered this by looking at the code after noticing that +9 slaying didn't seem to be helping my staff of death much...) 07:02:08 Orc follower tiles replaced by artifact tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5382) by wesleyshaver 07:05:16 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:49 03elliptic * ra3febd74c3c9 10/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc: Fix slaying not increasing damage for magical staves. 07:38:50 Qor (L19 HaBe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 109: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,43) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef)) 08:36:24 elliptic: just woke up, what's going on? 08:36:42 rax: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 08:36:47 !messages 08:36:47 (1/2) Napkin said (2d 2h 34m 25s ago): the issue about the cgi/apache/watching games in dgl: it's some problem with shared memory. this is the solution i am using so far: list all shared memory segments with "ipcs -a", then disable the correct segment with "ipcrm -m xxxx" where xxxx is the shmid of the segment owned by "games" 08:36:52 !messages 08:36:53 (1/1) Napkin said (2d 2h 33m 53s ago): just did that on CAO and restarted apache. 08:37:33 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 08:37:34 rax: CAO is producing lots of errors and crashes and such when players try to start or play games... seems like out of disk space 08:37:50 can't actually get to log in 08:37:59 we had like 20g free on the chroot a day or two ago, what the heck 08:39:12 ...grah 08:42:15 If people are generating ttyrecs that fast I am not sure how well it will work to just free up a couple of gigs 08:43:31 took down dgl while I figure out what to do 08:46:44 -!- ctair has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 08:54:30 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * r1e70d2f58483 10/crawl-ref/source/output.cc: Properly mark magic shield (Helm card) as temporary on SH display. 08:54:31 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * r00967c56701e 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/game_data/static/dungeon_renderer.js: Fix some display errors in the webtiles X map. 08:54:32 03evilmike 07stone_soup-0.10 * rbd244928bad7 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Remove a weird DESC: line in the classic Cerebov map. 08:54:32 03evilmike 07stone_soup-0.10 * r80faac1faa7a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/temple.des: Remove DESC: line from a temple map. 08:54:33 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * rbc89ee7c2e64 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Fix ghosts not being created if logging of wizard games is on. 08:54:35 03elliptic 07stone_soup-0.10 * rd2aae2500b28 10/crawl-ref/source/melee_attack.cc: Fix slaying not increasing damage for magical staves. 08:55:25 ...agh getting rid of tons of old saves freed up like 800MB, that is not helping 08:59:53 !lg minmay 08:59:53 1893. minmay the Conqueror (L27 VpCj), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2012-03-03, with 1320496 points after 128082 turns and 6:12:57. 09:02:19 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:03:36 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:08:12 ...yeah I don't have enough free space to just assign more to the disk in LVM right now 09:08:14 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:38 current plan is to get a couple of directories with gigs of ttyrecs, copy those over to the other partition, and symlink them 09:10:00 I'm also going to force everyone to explore = -1 to save on ttyrec space 09:10:30 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 09:12:33 this is not the most amazing plan but it should work at least for another couple of days 09:13:27 I swear to god, next install of CAO just gets a terabyte 09:18:55 up to 2.5g free, will turn back on at 5 or so 09:29:05 ...anyone know how to tell sed to search for a literal #? I am blanking 09:34:11 just using # does not work? 09:35:00 crawl@crawl:/chroot/dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-0.10$ sed -i -e s/# explore_delay/explore_delay/ rax.rc 09:35:03 sed: -e expression #1, char 3: unterminated `s' command 09:35:08 ...oh wait I am being stupid 09:35:13 quote it 09:35:45 I needed to \ the space, not the # *facepalm* 09:35:52 in particular you want ^# i assume 09:37:55 Ooh, that is better, thank you 09:39:43 hmm, perhaps it might be better changing this in Crawl itself 09:39:52 this way you can disable it afterwards 09:41:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:45:13 okay I am moving the ten or twelve largest ttyrec directories into the other partition, symlinking them, and that should have 15G or so freed up before I leave the house 09:46:32 Gauss the Grasshopper (L2 DrWr) (D:2) 09:46:32 ArcturusFats the Destroyer (L19 DsWz) (Vault:5) 09:46:32 patrick the Warrior (L16 DsBe) (Shoals:2) 09:46:32 TinyBugChild the Caller (L1 DESu) (D:1) 09:46:32 AlStar the Grappler (L10 TrAE) (D:12) 09:46:34 demonblade the Convoker (L18 MuWz) (Abyss) 09:46:37 lungtoast the Magician (L5 MuWz) (D:3) 09:46:39 Gilihad the Devastator (L26 TrCj) (Zot:4) 09:46:40 load average 69 09:46:42 Poncheis the Caller (L5 MuSu) (D:4) 09:46:44 nmf the Practitioner (L2 KoHe) (D:2) 09:47:53 Elwin the Grave Robber (L5 DrNe) (D:4) 09:47:53 rast the Thaumaturge (L10 MuWz) (Orc:1) 09:47:54 Tezca the Crack Shot (L13 CeBe) (Lair:5) 09:47:54 ZebTM the Thaumaturge (L11 DEIE) (D:8) 09:47:54 eeviac the Poker (L4 HuAK) (D:2) 09:47:55 nfogravity the Spear-Bearer (L11 HuPr) (Volcano) 09:47:58 heteroy the Fetichist (L16 DsFE) (D:19) 09:48:04 dadrew1 the Magician (L2 HEWz) (D:1) 09:48:04 pivotal the Acrobat (L23 HaBe) (Lair:2) 09:48:05 Tenaya the Fighter (L12 HOPr) (Orc:3) 09:48:31 Geodew the Executioner (L19 MiBe) (Elf:2) 09:48:31 Frumple3 the Caller (L8 MuSu) (D:6) 09:48:32 rchandra the Severer (L13 CeBe) (Lair:7) 09:48:32 fycnfyc the Transmogrifier (L9 DrTm) (D:9) 09:48:32 MorganLeah the Unseen (L12 SpEn) (Lair:1) 09:48:33 gomer the Skirmisher (L2 DsBe) (D:2) 09:48:36 trucutru the Covered (L4 MiFi) (D:4) 09:48:38 ColdPie the Warrior (L18 MiFi) (Vault:4) 09:48:41 m00se the Tortoise (L16 MDAr) (D:12) 09:48:43 Learith the Tortoise (L13 MiFi) (Lair:2) 09:48:46 djroomba the Sneak (L9 DgAs) (D:8) 09:48:48 BackslashEcho the Poker (L4 MfSk) (D:5) 09:49:21 Rubinko the Changer (L3 SETm) (D:2) 09:49:21 abeheron the Proselytiser (L1 HOPr) (D:1) 09:49:21 fizz the Warrior (L22 HOPr) (Shoals:5) 09:49:22 archon the Sneak (L7 NaWz) (D:5) 09:49:23 Yunor the Aerator (L13 TeAE) (Lair:6) 09:49:24 ac13 the Skirmisher (L2 MiBe) (D:2) 09:49:26 Temoid the Scorcher (L18 OpFE) (Elf:5) 09:49:29 Blackmore the Magician (L7 DEEE) (D:7) 09:50:10 ersatz the Magician (L2 DEWz) (D:2) 09:50:12 Nexos the Grasshopper (L4 FeWr) (D:4) 09:50:12 Shepardus the Magician (L1 OpWz) (D:1) 09:50:13 kawaiiDESu the Devastator (L21 HEWz) (Elf:3) 09:50:13 Serfuzz the Bludgeoner (L13 OgHu) (Lair:4) 09:50:14 Serfuzz the Ducker (L1 MiSt) (D:1) 09:50:15 Playings the Eclecticist (L14 SEWz) (D:13) 09:50:17 Frobop the Convoker (L17 MuSu) (D:10) 09:50:20 grimtooth the Grave Robber (L5 DDNe) (D:4) 09:51:04 gritty the Fighter (L12 HEAE) (Lair:4) 09:51:04 Tramtrist the Stinger (L6 FeVM) (D:6) 09:51:04 qoala the Spry (L18 OpGl) (Lair:2) 09:51:04 mattington the Insei (L1 OpTm) (D:1) 09:51:04 Miron the Executioner (L16 NaBe) (Elf:4) 09:51:06 ebarrett the Conjurer (L14 CeVM) (D:8) 09:51:08 Sorbius the Skirmisher (L4 HOAK) (D:3) 09:51:10 o_O 09:51:11 Nikinyo the Fencer (L19 DsWn) (D:19) 09:51:26 gritty the Frost Mage (L14 OpIE) (D:16) 09:51:28 Grimm the Firebug (L1 HEFE) (D:1) 09:51:29 mpa the Eclecticist (L14 DEFE) (D:14) 09:51:37 all of these games got stuck when the disk filled up 09:51:49 this sucks 09:52:06 :( 09:52:14 holy 09:52:34 hopefully this is saving them, that's the best I can do 09:52:47 system load down to 7 which is 'normal' 09:52:54 any idea what happened that caused some games to starve to death when they got stuck? since that seems particularly unfortunate :( 09:52:55 MarvinPA: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:53:02 but there are duplicate nicks. like gritty or Serfuzz. 09:53:15 did they start up other versions? 09:53:27 they had multiple versions 09:53:44 presumably those ones can't be saved but would be good to avoid in future if possible, i guess 09:53:49 either that or they had multiple dead processes, but I saw a bunch of 0.9 and trunk games also 09:53:53 MarvinPA: I have no idea 09:53:59 and honestly I am only looking at out-of-game issues right now 09:54:05 like "does the computer go" 09:54:12 yeah, fair enough 09:56:21 load average ~5 with no games running 09:56:29 diagnosis: new hardware, for serious 09:56:42 and a fresh install at something modern 09:56:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:20 also set up scripts to ping you if you have less than, say, 50 GB because apparently ttyrecs eat everything :P 09:57:45 well in the future 50gb yes 09:57:53 there's no way I can get down to 50gb of free space right now 09:58:00 When the tournament started there were like 25 09:58:04 in the past 25 was six months 09:58:09 now, not so much apparently 09:58:25 we're popular :D 10:00:02 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:34 given how fast that went I'm going to try to get to 15G free before I turn it back on 10:01:44 because I will be out ~all day today 10:04:36 oh, heh, the system was so busy the thing that bzips ttyrecs couldn't get a word in edgewise :/ 10:13:02 Svankensen (L6 MfSk) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:4) 10:15:16 Games not listed on CAO/CDO scoring overview (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5383) by Bart 10:15:29 -!- Xelf has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:35 hi 10:20:40 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:40 I cut the Metaquestions. Which files contain the algorithms for creating the levels, the layout...? Is this in the *.luas? 10:24:11 Xelf: I think most of it has been moved to lua. Grep for city_level, roguey_level 10:24:31 okay, thanks 10:24:46 there's also stuff in dgn-*.cc 10:24:50 Xelf, dat/des/builder/layout.des contains the lua ones 10:24:56 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 10:25:29 and dgn-*.cc contain the rest 10:30:29 character and monster tiles not displaying (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5384) by Vinterriket 10:37:34 -!- Xelf has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:38:29 Exewu (L11 MuWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:9) 11:03:17 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:48 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:30:52 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:31:39 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:35:23 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 11:36:21 rax: cao crashes when I try to play, I might have processes that need to be killed? 11:46:11 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:12 -!- nfogravity has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:37 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:03 eeviac: is the "crash" the same thing minqmay is reporting in ##crawl? something about not being able to find a ttyrec? 12:08:44 I don't get an error message that I can see, it just immediately closes when I hit play 12:09:26 doesn't seem to matter which version I attempt 12:09:31 rax moved some players' ttyrecs to another partition. was minmay one of them? 12:10:12 eeviac: I guess maybe you just aren't seeing the message because it closes (are you using putty?) 12:10:24 yes I'm using putty 12:11:04 yeah, okay, I assume you have the same issue as minqmay then 12:11:53 jarpiain: I'd guess so... what I don't understand is why the missing ttyrec is causing a problem 12:15:30 the message could mean the directory is missing 12:29:23 -!- MartianW has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:45 Why is there a distinction between monster and player spells in the code? 12:34:01 ??why 12:34:02 why[1/2]: Because Crawl hates you, that's why. 12:34:15 seriously, crawl spells are just terrible 12:34:27 have to define every spell in like eleven different places 12:38:58 -!- MartianW has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:40:18 -!- MartianW has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:27 Sorry about that, my internet hates me. 12:41:39 ??why 2 12:41:40 I don't have a page labeled why_2 in my learndb. 12:41:45 ??why[2] 12:41:46 ench split[2/2]: Q: Why is--A: WITCHES 12:42:41 When I first opened up the crawl spells files I thought it was C. ;) 12:43:08 I suppose apart from being in member functions of a class it pretty much is straight up C. 12:49:18 actually, pretty much C++ish 13:00:09 -!- MartianW has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:04:25 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:04:37 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 13:06:39 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:39 where is the code that defines whether an object is "useful" to the player? 13:11:38 i don't remember where it is, but grep for is_useless_item should get it 13:11:47 <|amethyst> nfogravity: is_useless_item in itemname.cc 13:11:52 <|amethyst> what MarvinPA said 13:12:01 oh excellent thank you 13:13:13 -!- blabber_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:41 is useful defined as !is_useless_item? 13:14:49 -!- blabber has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:16:14 -!- Xiberia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:21:32 i... don't think "useful" is defined anywhere? 13:23:43 i'm looking at git grep useful 13:23:50 and i see calls to check if something is useful 13:23:52 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:24:10 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:29 less english, more code 13:26:06 well that's the problem 13:26:15 the calls are in english? :) 13:26:25 in itemname.cc 13:26:37 there is no call, anywhere, to push_back("useful") 13:27:03 it can push good_item, or useless_item 13:29:04 question: why would any player ever want to use the 'X' ability to abandon their god 13:29:17 seems like it is entirely superfluous 13:29:29 .??why[2] 13:29:46 "because crawl wants to inconvenience the player, that's why"? 13:29:47 Wensley: in order to wait out god wrath without losing piety for another god 13:29:47 so you can abandon vehumet and get abyssed as a panic button, duh 13:30:00 elliptic: that sounds pretty terribly scummy 13:30:15 well it wouldn't be better to force people to have a god 13:30:28 once you ever have a god, you're in for life 13:30:35 since then they would just pick a god with harmless or no wrath while waiting out the first wrath 13:31:02 FR: remove god wrath 13:31:17 I do wonder whether it would be enough to replace aX with the abliity to renounce a god while sitting at their altar 13:31:22 switching gods is awesome and should not be discouraged 13:38:25 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38:47 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:23 item_type_known asks if the player has IDed the item, right? 13:49:42 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:10 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 13:50:54 i'm almost certain good_item doesn't do what it's supposed to 13:52:33 unless i'm not understanding how the builder works 13:56:09 Victorlustly (L3 HEWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:3) 13:58:06 Victorlustly (L3 HEWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:4) 14:08:26 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:25:45 i'm very confused :/ 14:26:02 -!- greatzebu has joined ##crawl-dev 14:31:59 i don't see good_item defined anywhere in the code, but it clearly does something 14:32:16 does the dungeon builder use different source? 14:35:34 nfogravity: I'm not very familiar with the dungeon builder code but you might want to look at mapdef.cc, lines 4826 and 4827 14:36:29 oh hey elliptic 14:36:30 thank you 14:42:21 yeah, that's what does it 14:42:47 it forces an item level of 351 14:45:01 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:44 -!- eeviac has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:54:04 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ragdoll] 14:57:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 15:05:27 yeah I think eeviac and minmay are both on the lsit 15:05:35 what error are they getting? 15:06:34 -!- ctair has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10:43 you know who else had a list 15:11:39 schindler? 15:12:00 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:46 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:22 -!- eeviac has joined ##crawl-dev 15:14:53 eeviac: What error are you getting? 15:15:19 no error that I can see, it closes immediately whenever I try to play any version 15:15:46 Dammit, I'm sorry. Let me see if I can fix that. 15:15:47 it being putty 15:16:45 rax: minmay got the error: elliptic: as soon as i attempt to start or resume a game it gives "/dgldir/ttyrec/minmay/2012-03-03.18:00:56.ttyrec: No such file or directory" 15:17:14 I can watch games, and play robot finds kitty, just fine 15:18:16 eeviac: yeah, you had more than 1G of compressed ttyrecs so you are in the Special Club whose ttyrec directories got moved to another partition 15:18:26 all the data is there but for some reason it's having trouble with the symlink 15:18:39 special club meaning I die a lot 15:19:11 pivotal is also telling me he has the same problem 15:19:18 pivotal is also on the list 15:19:25 I'm not too bummed about this inconvenience, I got my xom win before things went down :D 15:19:36 I would really liek to get this fixed though :P 15:19:55 Disturbance Tiles, Felid Horns, etc. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5385) by ontoclasm 15:20:00 ...there are 10G free _more_ than there were when I left 15:20:00 what 15:20:02 the 15:20:03 fuck 15:20:40 ....have people been playing antigames? 15:20:42 compression of ttyrecs kicked in? 15:20:55 god how long had it not been happening then? 15:21:27 just a guess 15:21:52 It's the most reasonable one 15:21:57 the daemon was running continuously 15:22:54 asdfjkl;. 15:23:36 Oh huh maybe it can't reach out of the chroot? But it's dgl, not crawl, it should be able to I would think 15:24:07 well time to move the test directory and fuck with it! 15:24:19 shouting at daemons 15:27:42 ......... gyargh 15:27:49 well I have reproduced it at least 15:29:08 ah it looks like it is the symlink issue, and for some reason the ttyrec file is being called inside and not outside the chroot 15:29:22 I guess that makes sense actually 15:37:01 okay I can "fix" this with bind mounts 15:37:12 it probably makes me a bad person to do so though 15:38:29 Train (L13 DrPr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:11) 15:40:20 Bogman (L15 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Lair:1) 15:44:04 fuckit, I am doing the evil thing 15:45:08 eeviac: can you please test and confirm that it works? 15:45:35 Alg (L14 HaGl) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Lair:7) 15:46:30 LeastActionMan (L25 OgHu) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:16) 15:47:44 rax: I'm in 15:48:51 eeviac: Awesome. 15:49:24 Tutankham (L27 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Crypt:2) 15:49:35 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:50:36 banei (L16 DrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:10) 15:51:09 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:33 rax: so other people with this problem should be able to play again now also? 15:53:22 OneEyedJack (L12 DrWr) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Lair:4) 15:53:53 elliptic: almost, not done manually fixing them all 15:54:05 Alkazar (L18 SpWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Lair:8) 15:54:34 -!- faze has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:51 rax: thanks for fixing the cao issue i was having, much appreciated 15:55:55 elliptic: all should be fixed in theory 15:56:01 faze: You are welcome, sorry for the delay 15:56:10 no worries 15:56:18 -!- faze has left ##crawl-dev 15:56:35 rax: great, thanks 15:57:03 !tell greensnark Hi greensnark, the disk filled up so I did really bad things. Some of /chroot/dgldir/ttyrec/ are bindmounts. proceed with extreme caution. (I am going to Hell.) <3 15:57:05 rax: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 15:57:42 also there are 30g available now so this shouldn't happen again anytime soon 15:57:55 I am going to research new hardware, I miiiiiiiiiight be able to push the upgrade time from May to March 15:57:59 when does the tournament end? 15:58:46 tournament ends 24:00 UTC March 11 15:58:49 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:58:56 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:58:58 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:58:59 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:00 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:01 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:04 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:09 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:12 uh 15:59:16 !lm * crash -log 15:59:16 2386. Apsalar, XL1 HEFi, T:0 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/Apsalar/crash-Apsalar-20120303-215854.txt 15:59:38 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:39 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 15:59:40 that is not very useful 15:59:45 !lm * crash x=tiles 15:59:45 2388. [2012-03-03] [tiles=] Apsalar the Skirmisher (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed on turn 0. (D:1) 15:59:55 isn't that the crash you get when you resize your terminal or something? 15:59:58 not sure 16:00:29 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:31 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:32 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:33 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:34 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:35 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:37 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:40 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:00:53 Apsalar (L1 HEFi) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 16:02:03 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:03:50 MarvinPA: seen_hups is 0 16:07:03 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:58 CrisisInUtopia (L3 MuWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:3) 16:15:32 is it posibile to rename �things� in your rcfile, just as one is able to colourcode/mute thm? 16:16:45 i dont think so 16:24:28 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:11 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:29:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:29:10 -!- MarvinPA__ is now known as MarvinPA 16:31:27 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:36:21 CrisisInUtopia (L3 MuWz) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:3) 16:36:59 tileweb sure is picky about its file descriptors 16:36:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:48:38 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ragdoll] 16:50:30 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:04 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 18:18:41 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:23:11 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25:14 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:39 03MarvinPA * re7517a0d4fa6 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/bazaar.des: Add mutagenic fog to minmay_bazaar_mutagenic_fog 18:27:49 03MarvinPA * r22be94214ec3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des: Shrink minmay_statue_hallways 18:32:29 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:48:27 didnt that bazaar have the mutagenic fog removed from it? i always thought that was why it was fogless 18:48:56 might as well rename it completely if it's not going to keep said defining feature 18:50:04 the name is to remind people minmay is horrible 18:50:17 hehehehehe 18:50:49 need to add something so that people will die in it and the map name will appear in ##crawl 18:50:50 am I horrible for my aerie drop and hangedman[6] or do I need to be less creative 18:51:18 looks like it was wrong ever since it was added 18:51:33 in be61a4ff97529a5eb378c2 18:54:27 actually, before I even work on it any further, is a jelly drop style vault with vapours and air elementals too cruel or not 18:54:41 jelly drop doesnt even work that well 18:54:43 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:55:00 in that 18:55:29 crawl levels are too big for there to be much of a chance of monsters teleporting near you 18:55:59 I thought the point of the drops was randomly throwing them throughout a level, in the case of jellies randomly eating everything on a level 18:56:30 i'm not really sure what the point is, email lemuel if you want the answer. i just assume its to teleport jellies near you 18:56:48 if you want to just make a level with a lot of air elementals (for some reason), there are better ways of doing that 18:57:18 * HangedMan shrugs 18:57:28 the point of jelly drop is to ruin the level's loot 18:57:42 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:57:43 because it used to wake up really easily, because walls didn't block noise 18:57:53 so you'd cast lightning bolt and suddenly slurps everywhere 18:58:09 yeah for a long time it had absolutely no effect because of that 18:58:27 now the jellies start awake, but its not great 18:58:30 I am wary of walls not blocking noise in trunk 18:58:45 but no time to test trunk tourney tourney tourney 18:58:52 noise can go through them currently but i think you need something extremely loud 18:59:46 haven't read much of noise.h or shout.cc so I don't really understand much of http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=c58e53b4f872dd3ffe7da69f33d9dff11fd86972 beyond the comment 19:00:08 evilmike: should make them be asleep but have alarm traps inside 19:00:14 so if you wake up even one they shortly all wake up 19:02:03 Eronarn: hmm, that could work. I'll test that later 19:02:34 http://pastebin.com/AT7Q6705 19:03:06 right now with minimal real testing the only good point of this aerie drop is that you get to have a little bit of revenge on the rare spriggan air mages that presumably set it up 19:03:35 that vault has a proper entrance, its nothing like jelly drop 19:03:35 also I really need to go make less gimmicky vaults, this is the sixth vapour vault out of 52 19:03:59 the wandering nature of ball lightnings and vapours drop them around in about a hundred turns 19:04:16 essentially close enough to not stoppable 19:04:42 HangedMan: in the second vault, you are putting entrances in the middle of the vault 19:04:46 put them on the edge 19:04:59 window.des does this all over the place 19:06:44 so as far as I can tell putting @s on edges isn't actually necessary 19:07:44 Dustman (L4 HOFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:2) 19:08:05 it isn't necessary to use them at all. a floating vault will place them automatically if there aren't any, and the mini_float tag does that for minivaults 19:08:10 also doors count as entrances 19:08:24 but, as far as I know, putting a @ in the middle does nothing 19:08:44 ...oh *whoops* 19:09:18 I messed up placing those @s in that vault while adding a thicker border for it to somewhat work in spider's nest 19:09:52 your "murderbox" is rather small for an encompass vault 19:10:22 you could probably just make it a floating vault. one of those ones that is sealed off, and your only access is via stairs 19:10:24 it was supposed to be much larger but I decided to test off half of it after screwing around with the shapes a lot 19:14:25 putting butterflies on zot traps is too spammy to be usable 19:14:47 enemyfighter (L27 SpVM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (D:21) 19:14:49 a slow monster wandering on top of one will only produce occasional messages. butterflies can do it every turn (or worse) 19:14:59 hmm 19:15:28 could use some slow insects to preserve the theme 19:15:29 banei (L20 DrEE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Elf:3) 19:22:17 alright, looks like i was wrong about the @ thing 19:22:34 the docs on that should be changed 19:33:22 one last note. if you do make that murderbox an encompass vault, either tag it with no_monster_gen or reduce the number of 0's 19:33:31 'k 19:33:57 8s are much nastier to work with then I thought they would be 19:34:09 although to me it already looks fine for a large vault. its already pretty dense, usually encompass vaults have large areas without much going on 19:34:10 tentacled monstrosity on d:14 seems absolutely ridiculous 19:34:45 an 8 is (depth * 2) + 5 or something like that 19:34:48 aka very ood 19:35:25