00:01:09 Dartonias (L3 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:2) 00:01:52 Dartonias (L3 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:2) 00:03:29 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-244-g33001e7 (32) 00:16:10 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 00:16:14 03evilmike * r5e20b4728c5f 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/sprint_v.des: Silence the milestones in sprint_v, for now. 00:18:26 KingEdRock (L11 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (Temple) 00:19:12 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-245-g5e20b47 00:22:10 KingEdRock (L11 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (Temple) 00:24:04 KingEdRock (L11 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (Temple) 00:24:21 -!- cosh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:39 good morning! 00:26:10 KingEdRock (L11 DEWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (Temple) 00:45:31 Beebo (L4 VpTm) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:3) 00:50:51 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:52:10 Zappman123 (L1 OpVM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:1) 00:54:43 -!- [1]cosh has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:43 Beebo (L4 VpTm) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:3) 00:57:35 -!- cosh has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:57:35 -!- [1]cosh is now known as cosh 01:04:28 webtiles crashes when doing "ctrl + f shop" and then pressing "!" in the search result menu (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5358) by Beebo 01:07:31 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:10:15 -!- petete has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:11:54 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:20 Beebo (L4 VpTm) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:4) 01:28:05 Beebo (L5 VpTm) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:4) 01:29:59 Beebo (L5 VpTm) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:4) 01:30:08 03evilmike * r7ad50dd352f0 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/sprint/sprint_v.des: Make zig sprint a little harder for Abyss Knights. 01:44:10 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:37 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 02:15:34 Daiyousei (L3 SpAs) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:2) 02:30:01 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:31:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:54:08 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:56:31 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:22 crate (L19 HOGl) ASSERT(you.can_pass_through_feat(grd(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 435 failed. (D (Sprint)) 03:11:37 -!- ctair has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:16:59 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:40 !lm crate crash -log 03:23:40 15. crate, XL20 HaWr, T:51311 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/crate/crash-crate-20120206-174539.txt 03:26:08 it's this: 03:26:12 !lm crate sprint crash -log 03:26:12 1. crate, XL19 HOGl, T:4494 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/crate/crash-crate-20120224-085919.txt 03:26:33 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 03:27:22 ah, yeah 03:27:50 Oh nice, a mumra sighting! 03:30:47 Felyza: yes, the bars have changed because the webtiles terminal output needs to look the same as from normal console builds. I'd rather not add an option for this, but if it's really bothering you, it would probably be possible to do some client-side javascript hackery to change this 03:33:39 elliptic: can you turn off milestone reporting for zig sprint? maybe do level 9, level 18, level 27? 03:34:13 in ##crawl i mean 03:34:14 Napkin will have to do that 03:34:57 (for Gretell) 03:35:02 Napkin could do that, if you tell him how 03:35:02 Napkin: You have 8 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:35:15 moin ;) 03:35:24 moin! 03:35:33 moin Napkin :) 03:35:43 hi guys! 03:35:51 -!- ctair has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 03:36:43 Napkin: hi :) people have just been asking for Gretell to mute milestones of type "sprint" 03:37:22 which I think should just be a matter of adding that type to the list of other muted types, like "monstrous" and "br.mid" 03:37:46 -!- ctair has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:27 -!- Gretell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:38:33 -!- Gretell has joined ##crawl-dev 03:38:34 reporting some should be fine, just zig sprint is a little too spammy even for ##crawl 03:39:00 ok, done 03:39:13 we can figure out which ones to report later, if we want to report some... that's more work 03:39:13 more logic probably will have to wait ;) 03:39:39 take off every zig 03:39:51 :) 03:39:54 Napkin: also there is a nasty crash bug in webtiles, so I think edlothiol wanted an update to fix that 03:40:46 -!- kunwon1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:42:27 the fix is in 0.10 too, afaik 03:42:32 -!- kunwon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:42:34 the nasty thing about it is you can trigger it whenever you want 03:42:50 yes, just a pull and recompile of 0.10 should be enough 03:44:49 also, about zig sprint milestones, henzell is no worry since when cao updates it will get a newer version of zig sprint (which disables the milestones). Soon as henzell learns to mute those milestones I'll revert the commit that disables them 03:53:05 Danakh (L8 DsWz) ASSERT(title2) in 'menu.cc' at line 1496 failed. (D:6) 03:53:21 Nilsyn (L21 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Vault:3) 03:53:57 Nilsyn (L21 MiFi) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: No buffer space available (Vault:2) 03:54:43 Stable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10.0-14-ga75c42d (32) 03:56:40 !lm Nilsyn crash -log 03:56:41 2. Nilsyn, XL21 MiFi, T:51954 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/Nilsyn/crash-Nilsyn-20120224-095353.txt 04:06:39 -!- alefury_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:08:13 Lose xp&loot after a crash (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5359) by Danakh 04:08:29 -!- alefury has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:08:35 -!- alefury_ is now known as alefury 04:09:03 oh, tutorial has its own milestones now? 04:10:33 !lm * tutorial 04:10:34 Malformed argument: tutorial 04:10:50 i cant remember ever seeing a tutorial milestone in ##crawl 04:10:52 we used to put them in the normal milestones 04:11:59 anyways, edlothiol, it's updated 04:12:48 thanks, Napkin 04:24:42 np 04:43:30 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:08 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-246-g7ad50dd 05:11:43 !tell kilobyte some discussion regarding buffs going on on the tavern, maybe skim it? https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3831 05:11:43 alefury: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 05:19:48 alefury: holy crap, the Tavern really lives up to its opinion wrt the quality of ideas 05:19:49 kilobyte: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 05:20:17 the single comment I like is dtsund's glow changes, but that's at most tangentially related to the topic at hand 05:21:32 currently, you never know when a single casting of Invis with no glow at start will give you a bad mutation 05:22:54 -!- Ganrao| has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:12 the bulk of ideas in that thread are a hidden "food reform" (of the kind we had to revert) 05:24:21 really, we should investigate some ways to reduce food hassle, rather than to make it so much more pronounced 05:25:49 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:26:13 -!- ZorbaBeta has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:27:17 -!- ZorbaTHut has joined ##crawl-dev 05:35:17 kilobyte: thats a good thread by tavern standards. if you really want to see something bad, there's one where someone proposes reintroducing the maprot mutation 05:36:56 yay :p 05:38:19 seriously though, I'm pondering trying dtsund's idea of replacing hunger by modified glow. In a new race, to not risk harming the rest of the game. 05:38:35 I think its very interesting 05:38:42 he does say crawl light is still in the middle of implementing it, though 05:40:33 there's a number of other ideas that are a bit too small to warrant a whole race on their own -- I wouldn't want a mostly palette swap like Forge Dwarves 05:40:57 not sure if stealing a pile of ideas and cramming them into a race is that good, though 05:41:19 for playtesting purposes, it might be better to do one at a time. I dont know what the ideas are though 05:41:21 spriggan? 05:43:37 my best idea so far: Djinni. Combined HP+MP (like the moon troll idea), mana drain instead gives monster antimagic. Angel/demon properties, neutral wrt TSO: rN+++ but like angels no rTorment. 05:43:51 How far in is the golem stuff? 05:43:56 no food, but unlike undead, food costs are paid with glow 05:44:09 because "no food, but paying with glow" sounds a bit golem-y to me 05:44:12 yellow glow shouldn't cause mutations, though 05:45:01 phyphor: I didn't really like any of golem proposals, but some of them have interesting parts. 05:45:08 One other question, is there anythign that targets hp, even if you have guardian spirit on? 05:45:09 I proposed in that thread an alternate glow scale, where there'd be a "warning" level before yellow, and only minor penalties for yellow 05:45:37 not really something I was thinking of for crawl as it is now, just thinking of how an expanded glow system could actually be made tolerable 05:45:50 because having a race with effectively permanent guardian spirit, very low hp, but boosted mp would be interesting 05:46:04 crawl light actually goes further, and uses a "glow bar" 05:46:59 no boots, obviously. Can levitate at will but this slows all actions (like the Slow enchantment), automatically turned out over lava and water (including shallow). Can fish items out of water but can't enter it (and extra damage from aquamancers). 05:47:36 -!- GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 05:48:03 ring levitation/the fly spell removes this slowness (you don't have to put effort hovering high on your own) 05:48:35 how about "cFlight 05:48:42 maybe that amulet could actually be useful for once 05:49:44 immune to fire, lava is harmful (opposite to a bad inconsistency of lava orcs who can swim in it but die to steam/light flame) 05:50:12 not sure about "cFlight, this might work 05:50:41 potion conservation, scroll destruction vulnerability 05:51:07 does the A screen even have enough froom for all that? :P 05:51:21 again unlike lava orcs who "fire up" but magically shield scrolls from their body fire 05:52:17 it's silly to force all parts of a race's description into mutations :p 05:52:30 evilmike: Writing summaries from irc/tavern? Madness, but really really appreciated. 05:53:15 Keskitalo: I've just been taking notes every time something interesting comes up. It's not going to be a super-long read 05:54:03 not being super-long is good (: 05:58:18 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.27/20120216013254]] 06:08:58 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 06:25:19 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 06:30:56 -!- cosh has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Wibbly Wobbly IRC] 06:43:40 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:44:43 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 06:48:11 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 06:56:34 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:10 -!- cosh has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:14 kilobyte: lava orcs can't read scrolls or books when they are >451 :) the idea is they have a lavaproof backpack 07:09:13 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:15:18 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:39 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 07:25:04 451? 07:26:16 fahrenheit 07:27:10 233° C :P 07:27:28 451degF is not even the burning temperature of paper 07:28:51 Zaba: it's within the range of autoignition temperatures of paper, but it was mostly a book reference :P 07:29:17 if they're at 450/232, lava orc's scrolls still have a high (*10 IIRC) resistance to fire 07:29:18 it starts to combust around that temperature 07:29:44 but if australian english is the norm because of tradition, shouldn't then also australian units be used? ;-) 07:29:56 while in reality, any slight heat-up would make them go poof 07:30:40 that's why I would go with a resistance to _cold_ attacks and a vulnerability to fire 07:31:30 that would make no sense given how crawl works :P 07:32:32 kilobyte: why don't you assume that all the hot things that burn a normal character of another race are <= 450/232 ? 07:33:05 fire tends to be hot. It ignites paper in RL, you know. 07:33:21 lava is hotter than regular combustion fire, though 07:34:15 maybe lava orcs are very bad at transferring heat 07:35:51 lava orcs have rF+++ when they're in lava, it's just that when they're cool they aren't that resistant to it 07:36:13 if so, a contact with lava would burn them instantly 07:36:26 also: magic 07:36:36 Eronarn: good point! 07:36:41 note that you'd also drown in lava 07:37:05 and be totally unable to move because it's nearly as dense as stone 07:37:15 and be unable to see 07:37:18 you mean, they should avoid all attempts at realism because a wizard did it? 07:37:37 we should take from realism where it actually makes the game better 07:37:50 no scrolls in high tension situations is an interesting drawback 07:38:21 having weird restrictions on lava swimming wouldn't be, it'd just make it really tedious if you were blind while swimming, for example 07:38:23 to the contrary, I'd say breaks from realism are acceptable only if they give some big advantage 07:38:47 with neutral changes staying realistic if possible 07:39:08 realism in the context of our universe or the crawl universe? :P 07:39:24 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:30 you make as few breaks as possible. There's a set of premises (1. magic exists, 2. gods exist, 3. ...), and everything should logically follow unless there is a pressing reason to add some more handwaving. 07:41:00 'lava orcs are magical orcs that live in lava' 07:41:20 lava and fire are things naturally occuring in RL, so their relative properties should match real ones 07:42:45 I have trouble accepting hotter thing (lava) not doing a bit of damage while a light whiff of flame in the air (Throw Flame, clouds) or even mere steam hurts them 07:43:10 kilobyte: well, part of that is just how the rF+ system works 07:43:19 if they have just one dot, tiny amounts of fire damage still hurt them 07:43:27 solutions would include 1. natural gradations (ie, reversing these two), or, 2. total immunity to fire 07:43:31 whereas if it were a system like 3E D&D, they'd ignore the first X points of damage, etc. 07:44:16 in that case, lava orcs would suffer some heavy damage when jumping into lava, and only then heat up to get rF+++ 07:44:29 also, keep in mind 07:44:34 at low temp, they're not fleshy - they're like stone 07:44:36 and in crawl: 07:44:38 @??statue 07:44:38 statue (158) | Speed: 10 | HD: 8 | Health: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Damage: 20 | Flags: 11non-living | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire++, 02cold++, 10elec++, 03poison++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 561. 07:44:39 (which still makes you suffer 20% damage from light whiffs of flame) 07:45:14 kilobyte: i'm going to make entering lava be slow with a message like 'You carefully lower yourself into the lava.' 07:45:19 which lets them get up to temp properly 07:45:39 if they fall in, i could see them taking some damage as they adjust, yeah 07:46:12 this could possibly work 07:46:12 kind of like if a human bellyflops 07:50:04 i'd also consider making being in lava still cause scroll damage, to at least put it on level with standing in a flame cloud 07:50:19 (but, it'd be somewhat manageable, because of the conservation mutation) 08:08:01 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:16 !time 08:17:17 Time: Feb 24, 2012, 02:17:17 PM, UTC. The 2012 0.10 tournament starts in 9 hours, 42 minutes and 42 seconds. 08:24:28 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:01:02 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:31:30 -!- mumra has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:00 edlothiol, thanks for the update, I'll see what I can do with greasemonkey to accomplish the change... if I can get it working decently enough, I'll try to make it available on the wiki somewhere 09:50:04 edlothiol: would you care to tell me (or pick them yourself) which commits belong to 0.10? I get the impression that it's most of them. 09:50:32 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.10 * r26562efac711 10/crawl-ref/source/store.cc: Disable an assertion that causes a massive slowdown. 09:59:12 the online scroing overview still does not carry any cdo 0.10 games 09:59:48 kilobyte: I'll just pick them myself 09:59:54 -!- greatzebu has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:14 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * r0a59fa4eac16 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py: Fix an unnecessary error message in the webtiles server. 10:06:24 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * r6f73fdb4c6ac 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/terminal.py: Webtiles: Remove the handler for the stderr pipe when crawl exits. 10:06:24 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * rfcaffd315cef 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/process_handler.py: Fix another stupid exception in the webtiles server. 10:06:25 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * r1eed4d1f9978 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/ws_handler.py: Fix an exception in the webtiles server. 10:08:17 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 10:48:44 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:09:14 -!- mumra has quit [Quit: offski] 11:20:05 Arvor (L5 SpIE) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:5) 11:28:11 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:43 -!- bb|kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:32 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 11:57:33 -!- bb|kek has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:15:15 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:46:55 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:49:26 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:54:22 koupeman (L1 CeAM) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:1) 12:56:42 -!- ogsus has quit [Quit: let the og be with you] 12:57:25 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20111108220737]] 13:05:56 !lm koupeman crash -log 13:05:57 1. koupeman, XL1 CeAM, T:502 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.10/koupeman/crash-koupeman-20120224-185413.txt 13:26:43 i cant wrap my head around this. If i were to copy autofight.lua, add :īs and add it in my rcfile manually, it works perfectly on local console 13:26:57 were i do the exact same thing online, i get a Lua error: /dgldir/rcfiles/crawl-0.10/xomscumming.rc:471: 'then' expected near 13:26:57 'crawl' 13:26:57 error 13:27:16 different lua versions? 13:27:31 oh, could that be it? 13:27:49 ragdoll: pasting into rcfile on the servers can sometimes insert line breaks 13:27:50 or perhaps different .rc file versions? maybe xomscumming.rc is broken 13:27:52 which can mess things up 13:28:01 this sounds like it could be that 13:28:27 (it does this when there is a line that is longer than 80 chars or something like that; I don't know whether autofight.lua contains such a line, but it might) 13:28:41 nah, 0.10 was a new clean one, adding it didnt work, and just doing a complete copy of my local rcfile didnt work either 13:28:42 lets see. 13:28:52 Diplomat (L14 MiBe) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 171: Webtiles message too long! (-1) (Lair:4) 13:29:29 oh. then without : spotted 13:31:21 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 13:34:14 buffalo66 (L20 DEWz) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed. (Abyss) 13:38:25 how can vsnprintf fail with an output error (i.e. return value -1)? 13:43:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:27 "these functions return -1 indicating that output has been truncated" 13:43:27 guess it doesn't really "fail", just informs you 13:43:27 no, if the output was truncated, it returns the number of characters that would have been written 13:43:27 at least according to my documentation 13:43:27 hmm 13:43:32 but it seems that invalid format specifiers can cause it to return -1 13:43:52 yea could be 13:45:00 gotta run, l8er :) 13:50:03 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:51:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:51:59 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 13:56:09 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:59:56 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ragdoll] 14:07:55 -!- lorimer has quit [Quit: brb, jacked up windows] 14:09:17 -!- kek has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:09:50 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:50 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 14:09:51 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 14:32:28 -!- Felyza__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:36:02 -!- Felyza has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 14:41:07 -!- xnavy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:59:35 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.27/20120216013254]] 15:00:50 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:28 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:30 -!- umrain0 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:27:50 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:37:36 -!- Felyza__ is now known as Felyza 15:47:04 !tell evilmike two Pan lords in the very first ZigSprint room is... uhm, a bit over the board 15:47:05 kilobyte: OK, I'll let evilmike know. 15:48:58 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:49:05 it needs some de-randomization, yeah 15:52:52 odd... 7 rooms, 6 deep dwarf ones so far 15:59:35 yes, 2-5 pan lords, randomly determined 16:20:38 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:03 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 16:27:56 -!- xnavy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:38:10 -!- medgno has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:10 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:55:36 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:06:13 !time 17:06:14 Time: Feb 24, 2012, 11:06:14 PM, UTC. The 2012 0.10 tournament starts in 53 minutes and 45 seconds. 17:31:37 Napkin: could you disable new trunk games? 17:32:39 will that affect sprint? 17:33:51 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:00 sprint doesn't count in the tourney anyway, so there's no risk of mistaking that 17:34:56 I think disabling trunk isn't really necessary, but it would be good to at least move "1) Go to Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.10.0" to the top 17:35:19 yeah, that'd be fine i think 17:35:51 (I'm fine with disabling trunk too though) 17:39:23 I think Napkin is on vacation already 17:39:45 he said he returns tuesday 17:40:18 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Saindo] 17:45:36 -!- kek has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:15 -!- ogsus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:29 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 18:07:58 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 18:11:37 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:16:50 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 18:25:54 -!- ogsus has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 18:31:58 Alamach (L4 OpTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:2) 18:35:48 Alamach (L4 OpTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:2) 18:38:17 -!- umrain0 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:38:57 -!- umrain has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:19 -!- medgno has quit [Quit: Quitting] 18:43:01 Alamach (L4 OpTm) ERROR in 'tileweb.cc' at line 204: Socket write error: Bad file descriptor (D:2) 18:46:53 -!- kek has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:47:33 elliptic: I see that starting at 1am (or 2am in the summer) puts European players at a huge disadvantage, as a good part of score comes from "first XXX win". 18:47:46 not that much of score 18:47:53 but yes, it is a disadvantage 18:48:10 I wonder, perhaps in the 0.11 tourney we could start the timer from your first game? 18:48:35 perhaps no later than 24h into the tourney so there'd be no abuse 18:51:28 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Holy shit, this is going to be awesome.] 18:56:20 Or start the tournament at noon UTC on a weekend 18:57:19 Although I guess it would be early am for west coast US 18:57:37 3am I think 18:58:06 4am or 5am depending on DST 18:58:12 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 18:58:20 and then there's Australia, South Korea and what not 18:58:28 Well, can't make everyone happy 18:58:40 or even India, but nothing good comes from there :p 18:59:06 noon UTC is pretty decent for India :P 19:00:51 I love the first win rush in tourneys :) 19:00:55 Best part of the tourney 19:01:06 yeah, would be a pity to lose that 19:01:41 03edlothiol 07stone_soup-0.10 * rbdf521b6b9ec 10/crawl-ref/source/ (libunix.cc stuff.cc): Fix the "bad file descriptor" crash in webtiles. 19:02:18 03edlothiol * r8e777f91f2d5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (libunix.cc stuff.cc): Fix the "bad file descriptor" crash in webtiles. 19:02:55 -!- ogsus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:04:33 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:42 <|amethyst> The apparition of Neil the Ogre Mage, an average Octopode Wanderer. 19:29:52 <|amethyst> interesting 19:30:02 :o 19:30:12 <|amethyst> (I'm an ogre in this game) 19:30:50 nice bug 19:30:55 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:32:39 I think I've heard of it happening like thrice 19:32:48 <|amethyst> looks easily fixable 19:34:51 <|amethyst> hm 19:35:05 <|amethyst> is there any way in wizmode to guarantee a ghost? 19:35:17 <|amethyst> trying to test my fix 19:35:41 You could just create a ghost 19:35:46 i think you can generate ghosts but i'm not sure if you can set their skills to test it 19:36:02 You can also save a ghost of your current character 19:36:17 &G or something 19:36:24 be one race, have mara make an illusion, change to ogre, see if it's ogre-mage 19:37:38 actually yes that does work 19:37:53 An illusion of miwz the Ogre Mage, a legendary Minotaur Wizard. 19:41:32 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:17 -!- ogsus has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 19:42:17 <|amethyst> HangedMan: thanks 19:42:32 'welcome I guess 19:46:22 03|amethyst * r0d8f9f8d1ee8 10/crawl-ref/source/skills2.cc: Use ghost's, not player's species for titles. 19:48:29 <|amethyst> I hadn't realized we referred to Spriggans with Necromancy 5 as orgasms 19:48:40 -!- umrain0 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:38 OneEyedJack the Spear-Bearer (L10 MiSt) (Lair:1) 19:50:37 -!- umrain has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:52:03 -!- alefury has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58:55 -!- umrain0 has quit [Quit: Bye] 20:00:59 you mean necromancy 27? 20:01:13 -!- cosh has quit [] 20:02:02 <|amethyst> yeah, rank 5, sorry 20:02:03 this is the game where you can become "walking fertilizer" 20:02:05 haha, yeah 20:02:10 -!- umrain has joined ##crawl-dev 20:02:37 <|amethyst> or rank 4+1 I guess 20:05:36 -!- ogsus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:11 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:19:58 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:55 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 20:33:07 -!- ctair has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 20:35:58 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:35:58 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:59 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 20:44:30 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:08 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 20:45:08 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:45:09 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 20:49:55 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:56:58 -!- ogsus has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 20:57:24 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:28 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Client Quit] 20:58:26 -!- ogsus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:46 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:02:34 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 21:04:00 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:05:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:05:53 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 21:38:01 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 21:38:01 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:38:02 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 21:46:48 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:01:41 -!- umrain has left ##crawl-dev 22:03:56 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:09:46 -!- monqy_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:03 -!- monqy has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:10:08 -!- monqy_ is now known as monqy 22:12:19 -!- valrus_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:43 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:08 -!- valrus__ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:08 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:21:17 -!- HangedMan_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:22 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:22 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Disconnected by services] 22:21:23 -!- [1]GrimmSweeper is now known as GrimmSweeper 22:28:41 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 22:30:59 -!- mikee_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 22:30:59 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 22:33:11 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 22:33:42 so I am guessing from the floor mimics popping up from trying to put down secret door mimics that secret door mimics are buggy as hell 22:39:33 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:39:33 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 22:47:01 -!- valrus__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:07:02 -!- Xiberia_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:08:30 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:08:43 -!- Xiberia_ is now known as Xiberia 23:13:02 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:15:30 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:58 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 23:19:36 -!- HangedMan_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:35:51 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:37:55 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:38:38 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 23:39:40 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:54:09 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]