00:03:20 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-87-g50fa62c (32) 00:10:21 when a monster holds a weapon, but attacks with AT_BITE or AT_CLAW, does the weapon damage on those attacks? 00:18:53 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-87-g50fa62c 01:12:03 !tell elliptic wrote some stuff about dis and other hell ends https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:dungeon:branch:hell_branch_ends 01:12:03 st_: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 01:15:19 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:18:38 Black draconian in Dragon Form loses rElec (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5279) by qoala 01:29:16 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:54:57 -!- ixtli has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/] 01:55:39 -!- ixtli has joined ##crawl-dev 01:56:57 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 02:20:54 st_: I read that wiki page, I like your metal gargoyle idea. I also think that quicksilver dragons could make dis harder, and fit the metal theme. Although these shouldn't be common enemies. 02:20:54 evilmike: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 02:21:31 for geh I think we actually have some decent ranged enemies for fire damage (balrugs and fire giants). Maybe there could be a fast-ish melee enemy too? 02:24:52 the wizard of yendor? 02:25:23 could work, like I said I think Geh isn't in desperate need of change but changing one gargoyle and not the other would be a waste 02:25:38 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:43 the idea of subvaulting tar_old and tar_mu is also interesting. Another option could just be to randomize them more, like coc_dpeg 02:28:00 I'd also make the "eresh behind glass" part actually dangerous 02:28:58 I guess now you can't firestorm through glass it's not abusable now 02:29:08 I never used that strategy, actually 02:29:08 that used to be pretty bad 02:29:53 what I always did was just lure eresh to one side, then teleport, dig, apport, and leave without ever being in danger. Probably the easiest hell rune to ninja 02:30:11 03evilmike * r1ffd8ee47dbc 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/entry/small.des: No secret doors in shiori_angband_town. (minmay) 02:31:07 yeah I'm not sure I like the setup of her room in that one 02:35:55 what do you think about what I said on the vestibule? 02:40:15 I like the new vestibule for the most part. At least in one configuration it gives you places to fight without needing to stair dance 02:40:54 for the idea of placing the exit portals far away from where you enter, it's an interesting concept. I'd keep some of the vestibule monsters though. A straight fight with geryon would be pretty boring 02:45:48 oh, and there are also ways of preventing the whole map from rushing you as soon as you enter it. Giving the subvault monsters patrolling could help, and the central subvault could be given no_monster_gen 02:46:19 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:42 need orthrus and cerberus to keep geryon company 02:50:21 heh 02:51:20 oh yes, and there's also the old vestibule map. I've thought before about giving it a lower weight, since I think it's far less interesting than the new one. I don't know what other people think about this though 02:51:53 also, weight alone won't fix the problem (as I see it) of mostly just being an empty room 02:52:58 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 02:54:49 I like the simplicity of it, but that's a personal thing I guess 03:00:40 though thinking about how I would have designed it if someone said "make me a map for the entrance of hell" it would have been more like a big gateway with geryon in the middle rather than a big room 03:05:17 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:51 Geryon has room for improvement certainly imo... something with breath attacks could work out, three breath attacks in one turn after all :) 03:15:59 well, it's a bit strange how the crawl geryon only has one head 03:17:11 dunno about a breath attack though, geryon's thing currently seems to be about hitting you with reaching while you get swarmed by hell beasts 03:17:30 beam attacks dont work great with summons, since monsters are too dumb to really use them properly 03:17:56 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:22:44 yeah it probably wouldn't work that well with beastspam but if we did actually want to put in the guardian hounds could be something to go on (or cerberus itself could do that...) 03:23:09 his description does say he has three heads by the way, the tile doesn't for some reason though 03:24:08 oh, interesting 03:24:36 I'm going to bug report that 03:27:24 hmm, actually, it looks like the tile does have three heads. They just look like ears unless you zoom in :P 03:29:54 oh hm the current tile is different from the one the cdo knowledge bot thing gives but yeah 03:30:10 he also lost his wings 03:30:26 and looks like naga zeus 03:33:19 the naga thing is bizarre 03:35:30 oh I guess all the &s got new tiles, who did those? 03:37:51 roctavian, I think 03:39:22 rocktavian, more like! 03:40:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:41:39 !tell edlothiol What do you think about replacing the "slender fire wizard" title screen with the more recent one uploaded here? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5056 03:41:39 evilmike: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 03:46:09 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.25/20111212142243]] 03:47:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:53 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:07:17 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:48 Napkin: the 0.9.2 zip download on the cdo website points to a 0.9.1 download. installer points to 0.9.2. 04:43:25 well, who released 0.9.2? 04:43:25 Napkin: You have 5 messages. Use !messages to read them. 04:44:40 i have no idea. probably not important so close to 0.10 anyway. but someone asked what was up with that on the tavern, so i decided to point it out. 04:45:31 sure, thanks, alefury 04:57:45 also the windows trunk binaries are out of date, from the update message on irc it seems like the 0.11-a0 build god updated, but cdo/trunk links to 0.10-b1 (as it should) 04:58:44 Napkin: [07:18] Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-87-g50fa62c 04:59:00 s/god/got 05:00:05 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-85-g11ee62d 05:02:44 seems like its also broken for osx builds 05:04:52 yeah, bunch of things to do and no time to do so 05:35:23 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:17 -!- Lollipop_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:06:18 -!- Lollipop has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:11:47 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:31 not updating zips is my fault, I wrapped up 0.9.2 late in the night, found out I forgotten the zips when installing the thing but had no oomph left to get them done (unlike the installer, they're manual except for CDO :( ). And then, as usually, forgotten about it the next day. 06:16:23 and not updating OS X builds is all Apple's fault... give me a cross toolchain and you'd have them without bothering GreatZebu 06:27:53 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:28:42 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:30 -!- Lollipop_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:31 -!- Lollipop__ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:08 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 07:06:14 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:43 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:50:38 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:09 -!- Lollipop___ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:11 -!- Lollipop____ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:40 -!- Lollipop__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:13:41 -!- Lollipop_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:13:49 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 09:14:29 -!- blueDave has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:15:09 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:20:21 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 09:39:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:10 Glenstorm the Wrestler (L26 DrAK) ASSERT(y >= 1 && y <= sz.y) in 'libutil.cc' at line 942 failed on turn 122190. (Slime:2) 09:41:21 Tiles corruption (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5280) by jackofblades 09:42:50 that really needs to be fixed 09:53:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:54:07 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:54:57 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:32 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 10:01:11 orc high priest (09o) | Speed: 10 | HD: 11 | Health: 39-70 | AC/EV: 1/12 | Damage: 7 | Flags: evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(58) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 1004 | Sp: pain (d13), demon, smiting (7-17), animate dead, minor healing. 10:01:11 %??orc high priest 10:01:23 orc sorcerer (13o) | Speed: 10 | HD: 9 | Health: 19-41 | AC/EV: 5/12 | Damage: 7 | Flags: evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(36) | Vul: 08holy | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 598 | Sp: b.fire (3d17), b.draining (3d14), demon, paralyse, animate dead. 10:01:23 %??orc sorcerer 10:11:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:15:43 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:18:40 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:18:40 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 10:25:38 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:02:17 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:26 03galehar * r397ca58d5cb5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files): Remove the now useless you.train_set array. 11:35:33 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20110929064733]] 12:01:12 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:46 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:26 -!- iasov has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:47 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:09 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:08 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 12:32:33 -!- Danei has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:33:52 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 12:34:07 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:42 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 12:57:43 -!- SamB_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:58:25 -!- SamB_XP_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:26 -!- SamB_XP has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:59:37 -!- SamB has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:59:41 -!- SamB_ is now known as SamB 13:11:18 grubznug the Sneak (L1 MuSt) (D:1) 13:11:31 !lm * crash -log 13:11:31 2163. grubznug, XL1 MuSt, T:362 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/grubznug/crash-grubznug-20120201-191117.txt 13:20:15 03edlothiol * r934dcec152ca 10/crawl-ref/source/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Replace the fire mage title screen by the new version by Omndra and roctavian. 13:26:29 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:35:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:16 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:46 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:30:50 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:44:22 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:44:34 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:47:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:48:11 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:40 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:18 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Up, up and away!] 15:08:47 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 15:08:47 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:09:28 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:00 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:25 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 15:12:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:13:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:13:38 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 15:17:58 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 15:32:07 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 15:39:29 Hi. Could someone enlighten me where the type ucs_t is defined? 15:42:20 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:47:29 -!- heteroy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:50:45 ldierk: defines.h:31:typedef uint32_t ucs_t; 15:51:46 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:33 thx edlothiol. Now that you told me I see it in my grep output too, altough I ran 10 times before :) 15:53:10 what does it stand for? unicode char set? 15:53:29 yeah, I guess something like that 15:54:37 a single code point from the universal character set 15:57:46 I'm looking at it because I assume that the changes in unicode handling from 0.9 to 0.10 breaks running crawl in Console2 instead of the standard terminal on Windows. 16:00:13 yeah, I saw the thread... I'd guess kilobyte is most likely to know what causes it 16:18:15 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:12 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 16:45:33 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: gn8] 16:56:17 03MarvinPA * rbbbf33657cd6 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Changelog updates and wording tweaks 17:29:38 -!- ldierk has quit [Quit: Now if you will excuse me, I have a giant ball of oil to throw out my window] 17:34:37 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:36 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:05:13 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 18:10:32 -!- Lollipop____ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:10:33 -!- Lollipop___ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:18:34 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:18:56 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:13 -!- ldierk has joined ##crawl-dev 18:55:39 -!- ldierk has quit [Client Quit] 18:57:25 -!- dtsund has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:59:00 -!- alefury has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59:21 -!- Lollipop has joined ##crawl-dev 18:59:30 -!- Lollipop_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:31:08 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:18:48 newuser (L5 SpEn) ASSERT(item.base_type == OBJ_WEAPONS || item.base_type == OBJ_STAVES) in 'itemprop.cc' at line 2095 failed. 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