00:00:26 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:00:33 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:03:26 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-64-g074e2b7 (32) 00:18:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.11-a0-64-g074e2b7 00:22:39 -!- oberstein has quit [Quit: uhhh] 00:23:22 -!- oberstein has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:13 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:59 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:50:04 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 01:04:15 -!- stabwound has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:08 -!- iasov has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:17:35 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:20:26 -!- iasov has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:58 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:39:22 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:46 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:09:09 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:29 -!- iasov has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:33:02 -!- iasov has joined ##crawl-dev 02:37:41 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:48 -!- Red_Bucket has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:13:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 03:30:29 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:16:47 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 04:25:51 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 05:30:51 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 05:34:55 -!- Xiberia has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:01:21 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 07:16:38 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:30:36 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:23 napkin: you there? 08:07:21 yes sir 08:10:19 for the devs to test, do you want a test-survey, or the actual survey that will save the stats 08:10:31 since the non-live version can be viewed here: https://crawl.develz.org/survey/index.php?sid=99834&newtest=Y&lang=en 08:11:20 only when logged it 08:11:50 so... well, duplicating the survey would be ok. if we can reset the results, it would be ok, too. 08:11:56 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:11:59 what's more convenient for you? 08:12:04 oh? i thought others could see that too 08:12:24 i feel silly now 08:12:33 but yeah, duplication isnt a problem 08:13:10 cool :) 08:13:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:06 just adding tiles/ascii screenshots and adding the logo´s and it should be set 08:15:41 awesome! 08:38:04 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:47:59 napkin: https://crawl.develz.org/survey/index.php?sid=99834 08:49:13 looks great! 08:53:23 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:18 -!- Danei has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:08 -!- Lollipop has joined ##crawl-dev 09:06:08 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:16:53 napkin: e-mail sent. maybe we should look into purging the ridiculous country list 09:17:11 hehe 09:25:01 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 09:30:43 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:44:14 napkin: also, on the survey site, i suggest lowering the 20-30 minutes text to 10-20 09:44:43 uhm, kinda busy right now 09:44:48 no rush 09:46:57 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 10:04:46 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:09:12 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 10:16:11 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:10 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 11:01:08 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:03:16 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 11:06:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:08:56 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:01 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:24 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:04 78291 (L27 HEPr) ASSERT(you.can_pass_through_feat(grd(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 435 failed. (Pan) 11:42:39 !lm * crash -log 11:42:40 2158. 78291, XL27 HEPr, T:150812 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/78291/crash-78291-20120128-174155.txt 12:16:06 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:10 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:37:34 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:41:09 -!- absolutego has joined ##crawl-dev 13:07:27 -!- absolutego has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:07:53 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 13:47:33 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:53 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:50:53 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 14:26:55 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:36:21 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:52:25 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:25 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 15:33:19 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:07 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:48 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 16:01:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:01:17 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 16:06:04 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:38 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:05:11 due: could you enlighten us about Mantis 5268? 17:07:27 -!- heteroy has joined ##crawl-dev 17:08:20 umm 'TrCK start with 1.5 levels of armour and a +2 robe. 17:15:20 Be, DK, Sk, Wr, certain AK do that as well 17:15:51 Be has even a comment: // for the eventual dragon scale mail :) 17:15:58 not sure if that's a good idea 17:16:47 I'd vote against that, yeah 17:16:57 Fi is the only profession that looks for what you're wearing 17:17:30 -!- petete has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18:21 * SamB discovers a VERY interesting section in automake's manual 17:18:39 (automake-1.11) Dependency Tracking Evolution 17:19:01 CK, AK give you +1 to one you have better aptitude in, preferring Armour 17:20:00 so CK is 2 Armour 1 Dodging or 1 Armour 2 Dodging depending on your race 17:20:05 we are at this stageg: 17:20:06 IMO no race with restricted body armour should ever start with armour skill 17:20:07 (automake-1.11) Dependencies As Side Effects 17:20:13 (that's stage 2) 17:20:24 SamB: oooh... sounds great, lemme give it a look in a sec 17:20:55 elliptic: yeah, good idea 17:21:02 or, at least, that's what it sounds like 17:29:35 elliptic: in most cases, converting Armour to Dodging seems best, however, for Be, it resulted in FeBe being exceptionally good, so currently that's the only profession that loses the skill point without compensation 17:29:48 not sure what to do to robed guys 17:30:00 kilobyte: 2 in one skill + 2 in another skill is not the same thing as 4 in one skill, certainly 17:30:14 (Op and Dr are in the Fe boat now, too) 17:36:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 17:52:21 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01:33 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Up, up and away!] 18:23:52 -!- ixtli has joined ##crawl-dev 18:26:54 -!- ixtli has quit [Client Quit] 18:28:41 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 18:43:32 03kilobyte * re44133a6c263 10/crawl-ref/source/ (ng-setup.cc skills.cc): Give Dodging not Armour to Tr/Og/Sp, add skill points rather than skill values. 18:43:40 03kilobyte * rc43b97f86c25 10/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc: Shopping list: change a misleading message. 19:01:06 -!- alefury has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:02:02 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:29 due: what would you say if blessed toes had an accident? 19:15:43 they don't even strictly exist yet, how can they be killed 19:21:20 -!- alefury has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:32:44 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:34:24 elliptic: autofight doing nothing when stuck in a net/web is annoying. What about making it struggle free instead? If you're using autofight you are not in a danger bad enough to want to burn resources to escape the net some other way. 19:38:54 2 mp for blink is a resource? 19:42:02 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 253 seconds] 19:42:46 kilobyte: aww 19:42:53 kilobyte: but i like being able to make b0rsuk scream in pain 19:43:47 I wouldn't mind them if summon holy was toned down, filtered with paladins and apises, and they lost a summon holy slot for another heal other 19:43:54 or whatever 19:43:59 didn't they? 19:44:20 they're still not even marked as finished 19:45:36 aww 19:45:37 poor babies 19:48:18 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:48:31 @??blessed toe 19:48:32 blessed toe (08*) | 04UNFINISHED | Speed: 10 (move: 200%) | HD: 14 | Health: 77 | AC/EV: 50/1 | Flags: 08holy, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 4953 | Sp: holies, heal other, holy word. 19:48:42 blessed toe (08*) | 04UNFINISHED | Speed: 10 (move: 200%) | HD: 14 | Health: 77 | AC/EV: 50/1 | Flags: 08holy, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 4953 | Sp: holies, heal other, holy word. 19:48:42 %??blessed toe 19:48:48 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:49:01 the argument about spite against b0rsuk has some weight :p 19:52:28 :D I know 19:54:16 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.25/20111212142243]] 20:09:44 can we get heal orcs yet 20:10:06 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:30 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 20:28:31 03kilobyte * rfd234ea6b068 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/quotes.txt: Consistently align quote attributions. 20:28:31 03kilobyte * ref584858c47a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/quotes.txt: Don't force premature wrapping in a couple of quotes. 20:28:31 03kilobyte * r91c54cfd7605 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Make silver stars immune to all polymorph effects. 20:28:32 03kilobyte * r6178f7666a6f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (evoke.cc item_use.cc spl-cast.cc): Disallow casting, reading, using rods while confused. 20:40:12 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:52:13 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:50 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:54:50 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:55:26 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:02:11 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:02:53 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:34 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:31 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 22:05:41 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:06:52 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 22:09:44 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:21:08 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:22:27 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:25:20 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 23:45:31 kilobyte: struggling free from nets often means 3-4 turns wasted... that many turns with monsters beating at you (and with 0 SH) can be pretty nasty 23:46:11 IME nets/webs are rare enough at the moment that them stopping autofight isn't a problem, maybe if spider is ever added with lots of webs we can rethink this 23:46:57 kilobyte: also, shillelagh hurting the wielder is a bug, right? 23:47:24 if not, we should probably rethink the balance discussion we had the other day, since I didn't realize it hurt the wielder then... 23:48:02 also, if it isn't a bug, the kill message you get when you die to it is bugged