00:03:28 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-3105-gb555ad1 (32) 00:04:23 -!- JamezQ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:06:28 well I was thinking it might be in .10 00:06:33 it has to do with trample 00:06:50 what is it? 00:07:07 basically, if you are standing on a teleport trap, and you get tramptled, they don't teleport 00:07:13 but if they walk into it, they do 00:07:28 I noticed it while messing around in wizard mode 00:08:13 how do I test for trunk of cao in wizmode? 00:09:16 yep, this is in 0.10 00:09:25 I just tested it for you. Submit a bug report 00:09:46 nice 00:09:56 you aren't allowed to use wizard mode on cao/cdo by the way 00:10:00 ah 00:11:08 cool, hasn't been submitted before 00:11:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:11:27 well, it's quite obscure 00:13:24 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:05 nice, done 00:17:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:18:29 Trample does not activate teleport traps. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5183) by JamezQ 00:18:58 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-3105-gb555ad1 00:21:23 hmm it does not show the other bug I reported on mantis 00:21:33 does it now show them after they have been fixed? 00:24:47 depends how you have your view set up 00:25:11 JamezQ: there is a "My View" link at the top of the page, it should show you your issues 00:25:30 That is what I went to 00:25:45 it shows the trample thing, but I also reported a bug I think in .6 a long time ago 00:25:46 and the issue isn't under any of those sections? 00:25:51 nope 00:35:35 -!- JamezQ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:35:42 -!- JamezQ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 00:39:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40:55 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:56 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:29 -!- JamezQ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:06:19 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:53 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:11:11 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:14:29 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:25:57 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 01:29:48 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 01:30:35 !tell dpeg I was thinking about the violence that Tolkein has done to the Roguelike. Could we get rid of orcs and elves? :) 01:30:35 bmh: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 01:31:12 you'll probably have to email him, he quit or something 01:31:31 'eh? don't you mean neil? 01:31:41 neil is just busy 01:31:47 <|amethyst> I didn't quit :) 01:32:13 dpeg left the devteam, I'm not really sure why, I guess he just felt like moving on 01:32:15 03evilmike * r60f45a4907a4 10/crawl-ref/source/ (3 files in 3 dirs): A deep dwarf vault with exploding golems. 01:32:39 cool, maybe I can recruit him for *my* roguelike ;-P 01:33:49 that would violate the non-compete clause 01:34:49 * bmh slaps evilmike around with a trout 01:36:41 <|amethyst> bmh: I don't think he's interested in working on any more roguelikes, at least for right now 01:37:24 |amethyst: that *was* a joke 01:46:46 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: Page closed] 02:19:34 experimental stone golem (158) | Speed: 7 | HD: 12 | Health: 94-122 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Damage: 28 | Flags: 11non-living, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 493. 02:19:34 <|amethyst> %??experimental stone golem 02:46:14 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:14 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 02:47:22 experimental stone golem (158) | Speed: 7 | HD: 12 | Health: 94-122 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Damage: 28 | Flags: 11non-living, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 493. 02:47:22 <|amethyst> %??experimental stone golem 02:50:43 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 02:53:01 experimental stone golem (158) | Speed: 7 | HD: 12 | Health: 94-122 | AC/EV: 12/4 | Damage: 28 | Flags: 11non-living, 07vault | Res: 13magic(immune), 04fire+++, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 09poison+++, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | XP: 493. 02:56:03 -!- Cheibriados has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:03 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://s-z.org/crawl-dev/ | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 03:33:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:33:55 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:34:10 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:50:00 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:14 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:16:44 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:25:49 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:28 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:58 -!- wtface has quit [Quit: I love my HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 05:01:06 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 05:07:05 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:08 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:13:46 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:20:50 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 05:25:27 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:40:13 -!- Jevouse has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:33 hrm 05:52:30 !tell edlothiol it's been done...under https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:interface_ideas 05:52:30 Jevouse: OK, I'll let edlothiol know. 05:55:47 -!- the_glow has joined ##crawl-dev 06:16:06 lua_marker::read error: /crawl-svn-b555ad1/dat/dlua/fnwrap.lua:30: Could not 06:16:06 resolve 'callback.dk_vehumet_trees' to a function 06:16:19 where do you get that? 06:16:27 when i start up my game. 06:16:48 probably related to that vault i passed by recently, although im pretty sure im on a different level right now 06:18:07 * due eats Zaba and sleeps. 06:19:35 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:48 looks like that new vault. 06:21:57 yes, yes it is that new vault 06:24:03 looks like something (either the save or the level cache?) is outdated with regard to that vault's callback function 06:24:11 Read error on start-up (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5184) by Ragdoll 06:24:22 unfortunately I don't know enough about how all that works to tell for sure 06:24:33 anyway, itīs on there 06:24:51 did you by any chance start the game in one version (before the vault was added)? 06:25:06 nope, recent game all the way 06:25:26 it's been added pretty recently, too 06:26:01 just yesterday 06:26:15 this morning 06:26:41 erm, sorry, yesterday, right. 06:26:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:50 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 06:26:58 well anyway, in a fresh build it works fine, so something's outdated somewhere 06:27:21 bbl 06:29:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:29:46 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31:51 the game only lasted about 2 min 06:32:05 so it was a game made like 20 minutes ago, cant get fresher than this 06:42:23 03elliptic 07stone_soup-0.9 * re8d583c2fce7 10/crawl-ref/source/decks.cc: Fix cards having the wrong weighting inside decks. 06:50:55 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 07:00:01 thanks elliptic! 07:19:36 lol 07:19:48 arrows should all weigh the same, come on... 07:19:49 how about reducing the number of books in book shops? They are a bit too good. 07:20:37 add more rare spells 07:29:57 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:42 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:44 Question. 07:35:27 Question away 07:39:53 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:47:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:59:05 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:05:57 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:06 -!- Jevouse has quit [*.net *.split] 08:25:07 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [*.net *.split] 08:25:08 -!- CIA-112 has quit [*.net *.split] 08:25:44 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:44 -!- Jevouse has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:44 -!- CIA-112 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:52 -!- BlastHardcheese has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 08:30:22 -!- BlastHardcheese has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:01 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:30 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:57 jpeg has posted a lengthy Xom proposal at the tavern: https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3531 08:53:08 nice proposal 08:56:29 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:00:41 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:25 03dolorous * raf52d3961714 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Fix wording. 09:18:34 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:19:49 -!- the_glow has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:20:59 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:08 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-3107-gaf52d39 (32) 09:34:50 Oh! 09:34:57 Question was, how do I change a monster glyph? 09:35:42 you could completely rename and recolour any other monster to be the one you want 09:36:30 since you do not care of the opinions that would say that that is a terrible idea I will just point out that none of the documentation allows outright changing glyphs displayed as far as I've seen 09:38:27 I don't want to do that 09:38:33 I just want an immobile monster with the P glyph 09:38:35 =S 09:39:00 as a side question, how many new tiles does this vault need? 09:39:11 -thinks- 09:39:18 Four. 09:39:22 I think. 09:39:33 Engineering dwarf, ferrous ooze, sludge, metal tree 09:39:44 sludge is your poisonous water, right 09:39:55 Sludge is open sea, ferrous ooze is deep water 09:40:23 it'd need to be a whole tileset because water's animated in a few ways 09:40:29 hmm 09:40:35 what vault is it for? 09:40:51 A vault I'm making, it's a bit large 09:40:55 a bit 09:40:59 well, what is it? 09:41:00 19kb is a bit 09:41:14 apparently it's an abandoned experiment but I don't know anything else 09:41:22 It's a 15x31 vault describing a magical experiment gone wrong 09:41:30 is it a wizlab? 09:41:40 No, just a major vault 09:41:50 see, that would be a good context to put your insanity in 09:41:50 Like the gnoll ENCOMPASS one 09:42:10 very loud encompassers 09:42:11 mm 09:42:31 gnoll encompass one? 09:42:33 Sorry, I've just read the entirety of the Mantis wiki and taken notes on it 09:42:38 the gnoll one is a serial vault, not encompass 09:42:46 Serial vault, yeah 09:42:47 indeed 09:42:49 mantis wiki, what 09:42:54 Er =.= 09:42:59 Sorry, it's 2:42 AM 09:43:02 Whatever I'm saying 09:43:09 very good time to develop things 09:43:15 Uh, the codes and documentation wiki on thing 09:43:27 Oh, this is just syntax, I stopped adding stuff at midnight 09:43:43 Largely getting that immobile P-glyph monster without it using acid splash 09:43:45 very good time to be fixing mistakes 09:43:57 These are routine things, it's okay 09:44:10 Validator helps 09:44:35 shouldn't normal plant work for your immobile P monster? 09:44:41 Can't cast spells 09:44:59 I don't know how to remove its passivity / no_exp flag 09:45:12 @??burning bush 09:45:12 burning bush (05P) | Speed: 10 | HD: 8 | Health: 28-62 | AC/EV: 10/0 | Flags: 03plant, see invisible, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 03poison, 12drown, 13neg+++ | XP: 313 | Sp: flame puff (3d7). 09:45:19 Woo 09:45:23 There we go 09:45:56 it doesn't use spells, either 09:46:06 Wait, really 09:46:18 yes, it's also a special ability 09:46:23 ugh 09:46:29 yes, ugh :P 09:47:03 I toyed, I was so desperate, with the idea of creating an obstacle whenever the lattice fired a projectile 09:47:14 And then removing it 09:55:43 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 10:13:34 oboy 10:44:27 -!- the_glow has joined ##crawl-dev 10:45:32 -!- valrus has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:46:02 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:05 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:00:08 @??large slime creature 11:00:08 large slime creature (03J) | Speed: 10 | HD: 11 | Health: 82-160 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Damage: 44 | Flags: amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(44), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 823. 11:00:14 Um... 11:00:14 The large slime creature struggles to escape constriction. 11:00:20 Shouldn't large slime creatures be large? 11:00:45 @??very large slime creature 11:00:46 very large slime creature (03J) | Speed: 10 | HD: 11 | Health: 123-240 | AC/EV: 1/4 | Damage: 66 | Flags: amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(44), 03poison, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 1110. 11:01:39 wouldn't be surprised if it has slipped notice since almost nothing uses size 11:01:53 could be something to do with size changes not breaking constriction though 11:11:26 -!- syraine has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:13:31 regular slime creatures are small 11:13:36 so large ones are in fact normal-sized 11:13:42 very large ones are large 11:16:13 is there enough room to bump them all up by one, small is pretty... small 11:24:22 was the idea not to just prevent all constriction of J types? 11:29:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:08 if something teleports away you lose your grip on 'it', even if it has a gender, because it's not in LOS any more 12:03:16 another case where having a queue would be good 12:15:21 random thought: there's no reason stun can't exist in the game, but it's spoilery right now; we should implement it as a visible status effect rather than a decrement to monster action 12:19:34 The mass is resisting your pull. 12:19:34 The spellbook bursts into flames! Trog roars with delight! 12:19:36 can we remove this vault yet 12:20:10 argh, there are too places that say "That would be overly suicidal." 12:20:23 which one is the one I'm looking for ?? 12:22:59 eronarn, that vault got changed to only have a book with apportation anyway 12:24:08 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:25:29 oh, okay 12:25:42 ... 12:25:50 new monster: 'crystal ball python' 12:26:21 it's too good not to use 12:27:40 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 12:27:50 'moin' 12:28:27 !tell MarvinPA someone found a use for inner flame: casting it on yred minions 12:28:27 Eronarn: OK, I'll let MarvinPA know. 12:29:24 Eronarn: what does that do? 12:29:42 bmh: doesn't set them hostile, makes them explode when they die 12:30:02 this isn't necessarily bad, but i wasn't sure if it had been noticed 12:30:11 that's cute :) 12:30:25 my sister also likes 'crystal ball python' 12:31:03 maybe we could have a silly snakes vault, like we have the silly bats vault 12:32:13 silly makes me sad. It reminds me of Nethack. 12:32:35 silly is one of my favorite things 12:32:47 but, I wouldn't actually want the word to appear 12:32:50 we have subtractors and crystal ball pythons, one more and we'd be set i think 12:32:59 slinkies 12:33:01 unless in something like "boy does this make you look silly" 12:33:02 -!- Jevouse has quit [] 12:33:23 slinkies would only appear on upstairs 12:33:30 ... 12:33:46 bmh: you know, they would come down the stairs 12:33:53 SamB: I know: ... 12:34:00 Can you at least include a compile time flag to disable the silly? 12:34:14 okay, probably slinkies are going a bit far for a monster type 12:34:26 !learn add slinkies <+SamB> slinkies would only appear on upstairs < bmh> ... <+SamB> bmh: you know, they would come down the stairs 12:34:26 slinkies[5/5]: <+SamB> slinkies would only appear on upstairs < bmh> ... <+SamB> bmh: you know, they would come down the stairs 12:34:37 ??slinkies 12:34:37 slinkies[1/5]: Anything he says or does is implicitly, if not even explicity, accompanied by a disclaimer that he has no idea what he is talking about and takes no responsibility if you believe him and/or die. 12:34:44 ??slinkies[2] 12:34:44 slinkies[2/5]: Since it is apparently important to note this in one's learndb entry: is capable of spelling everything except lorocyproca. Also: has a major assertiveness problem; holds the record for the fastest real-time death to a monster (less than a second); only person to ever die to Wayne! 12:34:50 i have no idea who that is 12:35:04 maybe a weapon ? 12:36:23 ??wayne 12:36:24 wiglaf[1/4]: http://crawl.develz.org/info/tile.php?q=wiglaf 12:36:52 okay, actually, slinkies are a little too pathetic 12:44:57 constriction > grinder 12:47:34 I hate Grinder. Grinder is the new Sigmund. 12:47:41 no 12:47:43 sigmund is cool 12:47:46 grinder is awful 12:48:35 Eronarn: oh? 12:48:42 bmh: check out his dialogue, it's awful 12:48:46 one of his lines is literally 'FISH!!!' 12:49:15 what 12:50:03 Eronarn: change his dialogue? 12:50:22 bmh: if someone wants to redo his desc/dialogue that would be great 12:51:27 !tell elliptic feedback: the 'squeeze' message being able to happen without constriction going on is misleading, it should probably be changed to 'tentacle-slap' for now 12:51:27 Eronarn: OK, I'll let elliptic know. 12:54:47 hyperblade the Slingshot (L18 HaMo) (D:8) 13:01:08 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:01:13 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:03:22 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 13:08:09 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 13:12:58 i really hate that ossuary vault with the pyramid, it needs something to make it stop autotravel 13:18:55 ossuary_due_cavern needs to be redone 13:19:04 the flying skulls don't wake the mummies now 13:19:12 so it's practically free loot 13:26:13 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:28:37 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 13:29:12 -!- bmh has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:31:14 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:42 since we addedi nnate reaching to all polearms, maybe we should add it to all whips too 13:39:17 to the two whips 13:39:30 or do you also include the flails and such 13:42:59 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 13:47:03 -!- SamB has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:49:18 no, just whips 13:49:32 irl whips are actually useless at non-reaching ranges 13:50:07 -!- SamB has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:51 if flails got any property based off of RL-ness, it'd be a bonus to getting around shields 13:51:19 not relevant in a game like crawl though 13:52:49 -!- upsy has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:01:43 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 14:10:13 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:30:12 LuckyNed the Nimble (L14 KeAE) (D:12) 14:32:02 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 14:51:54 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:52 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:25:15 -!- edlothiol has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:33 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:35:24 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:37:51 -!- Pingas has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:39:04 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:49:26 -!- medgno has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:04 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 16:01:46 -!- medgno has quit [Quit: Quitting] 16:10:03 -!- medgno has joined ##crawl-dev 16:22:51 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:24:36 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 16:26:11 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:33:14 -!- HangedMan has joined ##crawl-dev 16:49:38 is there a url that takes you right to the scores? 16:49:43 on webtiles, 16:55:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:57:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:57:36 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 17:08:19 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:30 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:43 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 17:11:25 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 17:14:22 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:24:56 Huene`: you mean the high score list that you see when you die? 17:25:08 (assuming that's what webtiles players see) 17:30:13 -!- upsy has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:59:02 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:59:22 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 18:06:45 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:06:56 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:08 -!- wtface has joined ##crawl-dev 18:47:24 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Up, up and away!] 19:03:10 -!- casmith_789 has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:05:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 19:05:02 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:09:53 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:10:55 -!- valrus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:10:58 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:13:14 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:14:33 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:15:08 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:16:10 friendly_pickup is overwritten (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5185) by KiloByte 19:17:14 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:19:36 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:21:23 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:16 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:36 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:25:48 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:26:21 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 19:28:00 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:28:56 question! 19:29:56 is there a particular reason why the conjurer starting book is so heavily ice/air based, instead of having, say, IMB? IMB being pure conj 19:31:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:47 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:35:41 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:35:41 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 19:40:48 IMB is also not elemental damage, and I think people are afraid it isn't starting book material? 19:46:03 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:49:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 19:51:11 03kilobyte * r382ce78f7a25 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Update the changelog to 17a00637. 19:51:11 03kilobyte * r17a00637ca52 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Unconstrict spectral souls when their body dies. 19:54:35 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 19:56:19 we don't have feature freeze yet, do we? 19:56:20 edlothiol: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 19:58:17 03edlothiol * rb0c5c2976023 10/crawl-ref/source/webserver/game_data/ (7 files in 2 dirs): A hybrid variant of the webtiles glyph mode. 20:07:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:54 sadly no, but it'd be good to refrain from any risky changes 20:20:46 anyone want to point me to the code that generates unrands? 20:24:00 ??autumn katana 20:24:00 autumn katana[1/1]: A +8,+8 vorpal katana {clarity} who didn't get the news about {katana} removal. Dam 14 Acc +3 Delay 12. 20:24:05 nice 20:25:10 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 20:42:29 Kobolds nausea not shorter (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5186) by codrus 20:49:32 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:50:06 DESC_END: The merfolk witch loved to sing, And so charmed the Octopus King. Her squiggly suitor Tried hard to woo her, But she couldn't wear all the rings. 20:50:12 too cutesy? 20:50:35 nice :D 20:50:47 -!- jeanjacques_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:51:12 what? 20:52:06 ZChris13: limerick for ring of the octopus king 20:52:22 That's hilarious 20:52:27 what does it do 20:52:38 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:52:41 ZChris13: +1 str, dex, int, ac, ev and one random property from a list of 8 20:52:46 oh 20:52:46 it can appear up to 8 times 20:52:48 shiny 20:53:01 what are the 8 properties? 20:53:37 probably something like regen, -hunger, +MP, wizardry, rf, rc, sustab, ??? goes here 20:53:43 not rpois or relec (so it works with the trident) 21:02:40 unless you make sure to never generate two rings with the same property, rPois and rElec would be ok 21:02:41 -!- HangedMan has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 21:03:01 (although the ones you listed stack) 21:03:04 kilobyte: the trident gives rpois and reelec 21:03:18 yeah, I know 21:03:26 so someone with a full set gets a dot in most everything 21:03:33 (can add a crown later for the rest! :D) 21:03:47 "full set", hah 21:03:57 yes, we can finally claim there's set equipment in crawl 21:04:12 te chance for that is... uhm... 21:05:01 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 21:05:13 you'd need 300 Zigs and extreme luck 21:05:26 exactly 21:05:34 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:05:35 need something to trap the powergamers 21:07:51 interesting thing: Zigs you enter from Pan have a far better chance of artefacts 21:11:06 _e - the ring of the Octopus King {+Inv AC+1 EV+1 Str+1 Dex+1 Int+1} 21:11:07 cool, working 21:12:07 if you entered a Zig from Pan, on Zig:27 approximately 1% of ring artefacts will be unrands 21:12:19 03evilmike * r59fde6b3027d 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/altar/vehumet_trees.des: Disable dk_vehumet_trees until a problem can be fixed. 21:12:36 kilobyte: does that affect act scrolls or just floor loot 21:12:47 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 21:13:51 entered from D:6 and on Zig:1, 0.3% 21:14:15 ^^ something in that vault is doing something very strange. I'm going to take a close look at the lua in it later. Games which got the vault, saved, and then reloaded are crashing when they revisit the level with it 21:14:16 that seems bad, unless the zigs themselves are easier 21:14:20 floor lot, acquirement has absdepth 351 21:15:34 kilobyte: think i should overwrite octo rings like faerie, or have 8 copied enums? 21:15:39 latter is less fancy but less bug prone 21:16:07 stuff like losing and re-finding artifacts in abyss, etc. 21:16:57 re-finding them in the Abyss doesn't work anyway 21:17:26 oh, okay 21:18:14 I see a problem: having eight copies would drown out other unrands 21:18:33 yes, that's why i was originalyl going to do one 21:18:39 just don't want to introduce bugs because of that 21:19:30 int earth_attunement; // nomes only 21:19:33 this is in master, really? 21:41:49 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:48 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:45:17 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47:32 ??Fifty Eyes 21:47:33 I don't have a page labeled fifty_eyes in my learndb. 21:47:43 ??trident of the octopus king 21:47:44 octopus king[1/1]: +10,+4 trident of the Octopus King {venom, rElec rPois MR} 21:55:08 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58:04 !tell kilobyte The only time the gold contribution to score is noticeable is if you find an early ?acq, use it on gold, and then die shortly thereafter... so I'd say there isn't much point, yes. 21:58:04 elliptic: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 21:59:29 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:16 -!- medgno has quit [Quit: Quitting] 22:24:01 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:32:59 -!- moxian has joined ##crawl-dev 22:37:44 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:40:01 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 22:41:00 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:06 -!- Jevouse has joined ##crawl-dev 22:52:16 !seen edlothiol 22:52:16 I last saw edlothiol at Sun Jan 8 04:23:59 2012 UTC (28m 17s ago) quitting with message Ping timeout: 268 seconds. 22:52:25 !messages 22:52:25 No messages for Jevouse. 22:52:58 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 22:56:17 that's irritating, \n works but whitepsace is getting trimmed 22:58:14 A gateway to a ziggurat 22:58:14 "Captain: Take off every 'zig'!! 22:58:14 Captain: For great justice." 22:58:14 -Zero Wing 22:58:16 who 22:58:30 ZERO WING 22:58:31 hahahaa 22:58:40 Zero wing is my hero 23:04:23 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:07:40 zero wing quotes 23:07:47 I feel like I'm 13 again 23:09:24 G-Flex: We are all 13 in ##Crawl no wait this is -dev damnit 23:09:49 I think that all your base flash was one of the first internet fads I had ever seen 23:10:01 Yeah it was 23:10:38 wait why would you know that 23:11:02 Dude I'm old enough for AYBABTU 23:11:37 I think you misread my message :P 23:11:40 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 23:11:45 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:42 -!- jeanjacques_ is now known as jeanjacques 23:16:25 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:16:25 -!- valrus_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:21:05 argh i'm stuck on this limerick 23:22:07 There once was a dev from nantucket 23:22:26 is there any way to escape a single space? 23:22:44 who went on a junket 23:32:15 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 9.0.1/20111220165912]] 23:36:55 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 23:38:14 -!- jeanjacques has quit [] 23:46:05 okay, think this is about ready to submit :D 23:46:33 it breaks saving but i will let someone else handle fixing that 23:46:55 what are you submitting eronarn 23:47:00 a new zig? 23:47:08 Jevouse: ring of the octopus king 23:47:49 The One ring? 23:48:21 to rule the Eight? 23:49:02 Jevouse: it's +1 str/dex/int/ac/ev, and one random property 23:49:08 it can appear 8 times per game 23:49:26 that's bloody brilliant 23:49:37 although, why not eight properties 23:51:38 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:51:42 Jevouse: there are 8 properties, it saves which ones you have found 23:51:50 ohh 23:51:55 that's why it breaks the game 23:51:56 icic