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01:01 < Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-2926-gae15d2e (32)
01:08 < Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-2926-gae15d2e
01:14 < Zannick> res: not that i know of, but &? should give you the list of wizmode commands
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06:30 <+Napkin> moin guys
06:31 <+Napkin> I assume crawl is failing to build for greatzebu on macosx
06:31 <+Napkin> could someone look into that?
06:31 <+Napkin> last successfull build was on 23th.
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09:53 < alefury> !tell Wensley https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?p=43563#p43563
09:53 < Henzell> alefury: OK, I'll let Wensley know.
09:53 < alefury> !seen wensley
09:53 < Henzell> I last saw Wensley at Mon Dec 26 04:08:23 2011 UTC (10h 45m 17s ago) saying that might belong in hilarious deaths on ##crawl.
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11:13 < Vandal> Is anyone working on an Android version of Crawl? that would be pretty awesome
11:17 < alefury> you can play webtiles on android (only keyboard controls though)
11:17 < Vandal> dang
11:17 < alefury> also i think there were experiments
11:17 < alefury> try searching the tavern
11:17 < Vandal> I don't have a keyboard on my Nexus
11:17 < Vandal> D:
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12:42 < G-Flex> is pearl dragon armor supposed to be a holy item? I noticed demonspawn can wear it
12:44 < ais523> I don't see what's non-flavourful about demonspawns killing their enemies and then wearing their hides to demonstrate their triumph
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12:51 < G-Flex> ais523: it depends
12:52 < G-Flex> they can't use other holy items
12:55 <+MarvinPA> it seems weird that they repel curses (like holy wrath weapons) but can still be used be demons/undead, and don't anger yred
12:56 <+MarvinPA> used by*
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13:41 <+elliptic> IMO they shouldn't repel curses
13:43 <+elliptic> it is weird as mentioned above, and the main gameplay effect is making PDA worse for _ashenzari_... which doesn't feel very necessary
13:48 < Wensley> is there a way in git to squash the previous two commits together to make one single patch out of them, or would it just be easier to copy the only changed file into a fresh branch
13:50 <+MarvinPA> i am pretty sure there is a way to do that
13:50 <+MarvinPA> but i have no idea what it is :P
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14:12 < Wensley> !tell dpeg You've got mail!
14:12 < Henzell> Wensley: OK, I'll let dpeg know.
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14:43 <+edlothiol> Wensley: for squashing commits: I'd use git rebase --interactive, another possibility would be (I believe) git cherry-pick -n (I realise that you probably already found another way)
14:43 < Wensley> yes, but good to know there are alternatives :)
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16:43 <+kilobyte> elliptic: should we remove the uncurseability for PDA then?
16:54 <+elliptic> kilobyte: I'd say so, unless you have another suggestion... we could explicitly reflavor PDA as being made from scales willingly donated by a dragon and remove hides and prevent undead/demons from wearing it, I guess
16:55 < ais523> elliptic: including PDA that's manmade?
16:55 < ais523> as in, during the game?
16:55 < ais523> oh, "remove hides"
16:55 < G-Flex> if there are no hides then you can't make it
16:55 <+elliptic> yeah, that's why I said "remove hides"
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16:56 <+elliptic> I think on the whole I prefer just removing uncurseability, though
16:58 <+kilobyte> !learn add bone_dragon_armour 0 ac 0 ev 0 aum, doesn't take an inventory slot. Not cursable.
16:58 < Henzell> bone dragon armour[2/2]: 0 ac 0 ev 0 aum, doesn't take an inventory slot. Not cursable.
16:58 < G-Flex> ??bone dragon armour
16:58 < Henzell> bone dragon armour[1/2]: Now you're just being silly.
16:58 < G-Flex> what about shadow dragon armour, can we get that
16:58 < G-Flex> 10 AC, -4 EV, rTorm
16:59 <+kilobyte> that's damn powerful
16:59 < G-Flex> I'm also joking
17:00 < G-Flex> I have no idea what shadow dragon armour would even do, considering we already have a dragon armour with rN+
17:00 <+kilobyte> would be too good on pretty much the most abundant dragon
17:00 < alefury> 6 -2 stealth++
17:00 < G-Flex> I think shadow dragons are the only dragon with no hide though
17:01 < G-Flex> stealth++ makes sense but is also not very good
17:01 < alefury> its also not very bad
17:01 <+elliptic> g-flex: quicksilver
17:01 < G-Flex> oh right, those
17:01 <+kilobyte> !log * win urune=3
17:01 < Sequell> 2746. pivotal, XL25 HOAK, T:114693: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/pivotal/morgue-pivotal-20111226-203144.txt
17:01 <+kilobyte> 11 shadows, 3 goldens, 5 storm, 4 fire, 4 ice
17:01 <+kilobyte> 2 swamp
17:02 <+elliptic> I bet most of the shadows were on v:8
17:02 < G-Flex> V:8 seems to love shadow dragons
17:02 <+kilobyte> iron
17:02 < alefury> G-Flex: its not like rSteam or rSticky are very good, and the base stats are decent
17:02 < G-Flex> alefury: fair enough
17:02 < G-Flex> ??steam dragon armour
17:02 < Henzell> steam dragon armour[1/1]: A magical armour, made from the scales of a steam-breathing dragon. Although unlike the armour made from the scales of some larger dragons it does not provide its wearer with much in the way of special magical protection, it is extremely light and as supple as cloth. (light armour; AC 4, EV -0, steam immunity)
17:02 < G-Flex> ??mottled dragon armour
17:02 < Henzell> mottled dragon armour[1/1]: A magical armour made from the scales of a mottled dragon. Although unlike the armour made from the scales of some larger dragons it does not provide its wearer with much in the way of special magical protection, it is as light and relatively uncumbersome as leather armour. (light armour; AC 5, EV -1, napalm immunity)
17:02 < alefury> i often wear steam or mottled dragon armour just for the ac
17:02 <+kilobyte> steam is AC 5, mottled 6 now
17:02 <+elliptic> I'm honestly not sure steam/mottled needed the buff
17:03 < G-Flex> robes with resistances on them are pretty common, though
17:03 < alefury> i always thought they were pretty good for when they can be available
17:03 < G-Flex> robes and armor in general really
17:03 < alefury> theres no robe with rSword, though
17:04 < G-Flex> true, and don't most elemental damage spells/attacks check AC anyway
17:04 <+evilmike> I think 6 ac mottled dragon armour is really strong, if you can get your resists covered with other items (very easy to do) its the best armour for pure casters...
17:05 <+evilmike> I usually try to load up on AC on every character
17:05 <+kilobyte> then you're pretty much the only person to do so from what I've noticed
17:05 <+evilmike> heh yeah not many people use it
17:06 <+kilobyte> sadly I haven't got around to making a morgue parser yet :(
17:06 < G-Flex> evilmike: 6AC mottled armour seems really good
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17:06 <+elliptic> the thing is that most games you really want the resists or find archmagi or a good randart robe
17:06 < G-Flex> question: how does the AEVP calculation round?
17:06 < G-Flex> ??aevp
17:06 < Henzell> aevp[1/1]: Adjusted body armour evasion penalty. Affects spell success, melee accuracy. Its value is [base_penalty + max(0, 3*base_penalty - str)] * [45 - armour_skill]/45. 
17:06 <+kilobyte> elliptic: will there be a 0.10 tournament?
17:06 <+evilmike> in 0.9 I used swamp dragon armour a lot for similar reasons. I've used faerae dragon armour at least once
17:07 < G-Flex> does it round to nearest whole number, or round down, or round up, or what
17:07 <+elliptic> so even though MDA is really good, I've only used it once with a non-randart I think
17:07 <+kilobyte> G-Flex: calculations are done *100
17:07 <+elliptic> kilobyte: I'd like to have one, yes
17:07 < G-Flex> kilobyte: oh so it effectively doesn't round to any significant degree
17:07 <+elliptic> it used to round to the nearest 1 for melee penalties
17:08 <+elliptic> but I believe currently it rounds randomly for that
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17:56 < HangedMan> an anaconda zombie move away from me to let a skeletal warrior hit me, and it was still constricting me
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18:57 < Gretell> tsn (L6 SETm) ASSERT(attk_flavour == AF_REACH || weapon && weapon_reach(*weapon)) in 'melee_attack.cc' at line 4033 failed. (Ossuary)
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19:09 < petete> some snake killed my felid and kept constricting it in his other life
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20:23 <+|amethyst> Napkin: you here?
20:23 <+|amethyst> Napkin:  got your message
20:26 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin I just realised that the commit in 'master' should be cherry-picked into dcss09 instead... was there a problem with bleeding-edge-crawl?
20:26 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
20:31 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin oh, I see the problem now... I thought I tested, but apparently I neglected to make clean first
20:31 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
20:32 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin Honestly, it's probably best just to do something like   make -C $(CRAWL_PATH)
20:32 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
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20:38 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin I guess it's still not trivial, though, since you still have to know which objects to link
20:38 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
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21:23 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin  okay, I've pushed a seemingly-fixed version that does just that.  Same repository, commit 1fbdfa8411a50963c1fe8b2b248862905b190a85 .  I also cherry-picked the MR commit into dcss09 but haven't tested
21:23 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
21:28 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin  sigh... it builds but doesn't run
21:28 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
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22:03 <+|amethyst> !tell Napkin okay, finally a version that works, and I added support for AF_SUBTRACTOR.  If you pulled 1fbdfa8 you'll need to reset, since I amended that commit.
22:03 < Henzell> |amethyst: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
22:07 < CIA-112> evilmike * rfa0910a69bdf /crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des: Some vineyard vaults for early D. (dk)
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23:43 < Henzell> q335r49 the Archmage (L27 OpTm) ASSERT(attk_flavour == AF_REACH || weapon && weapon_reach(*weapon)) in 'melee_attack.cc' at line 4033 failed on turn 182806. (Pan)
23:43 <+|amethyst> !lm q335r49 crash -log
23:43 < Sequell> 2. q335r49, XL27 OpTm, T:182806 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/q335r49/crash-q335r49-20111227-044325.txt
23:45 <+|amethyst> not sure what made them non-adjacent that time
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23:47 < CIA-112> SamB * r29922ff9cb4e /crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Enable printf warnings for yet more functions & fix problems identified
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