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00:02 <+elliptic> looks to me like kilobyte just made a mistake there... it happens :)
00:05 < HangedMan> just making sure I'm not crazy while tweaking these things
00:06 < HangedMan> since the royal jellies were already a good enough reward/food dolement without pushing the desired nutrition average
00:08 < CIA-54> dolorous * re262dd72296f /crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/trove.des: Fix Trove references to renamed unrandarts.
00:18 < CIA-54> evilmike * r08b5070299af /crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/hells.des: Nerf the starting ambush in evilmike_geh.
01:00 < Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-2825-g08b5070 (32)
01:08 < Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-2825-g08b5070
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01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:38 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:39 < Gretell> Mychaelh (L3 HuSk) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:2)
01:41 < HangedMan> nice twelve crashes
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02:09 <+elliptic> !lm * crash -log
02:09 < Sequell> 2053. Mychaelh, XL3 HuSk, T:1646 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Mychaelh/crash-Mychaelh-20111218-063914.txt
02:11 <+|amethyst> this is the first one
02:11 <+|amethyst> !lm mychaelh crash -15 -log
02:11 < Sequell> 14. Mychaelh, XL3 HuSk, T:1646 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Mychaelh/crash-Mychaelh-20111218-063841.txt
02:11 <+|amethyst> also from loading a game
02:12 <+|amethyst> all 0.8
02:12 <+elliptic> 0.8?
02:12 <+|amethyst> oh, sorry
02:13 <+|amethyst> was looking too far back
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02:13 <+elliptic> this assert seems to trigger a fair amount and I have no idea why
02:13 <+|amethyst> -16 is a similar assert in 0.8.0-a0
02:14 <+|amethyst> the missing stack frames don't help
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02:14 <+elliptic> I guess it should be possible for someone to grab his savefile and test stuff with it
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--- Log opened Sun Dec 18 03:16:01 2011
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05:32 < st_> can you not use KMASK: no_monster_gen for glyphs using KFEAT and NSUBST? I want a lake of lava with a number of monsters placed randomly in it but not full of trash like lava snakes
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05:40 < st_> ohh, I know why it's not working
05:40 < st_> I was setting the NSUBST to l instead of the glyph I KMASKed, silly me
05:41 <@due> st_: yes
05:41 <@due> masks are separate
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06:00 < Gretell> OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-2825-g08b5070
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13:18 < alefury> Wensley: iirc theres an option to not exit crawl after quitting a game
13:18 < alefury> it has caused trouble a few times in the past
13:19 <+Zaba> yeah, because not all state was reset
13:19 < alefury> ah, this one: # restart_after_game = true
13:19 < alefury> so maybe you need to set that to true to reproduce that bug
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13:44 < alefury> also i meant false
13:45 < alefury> or maybe not, i dont know
13:45 < alefury> i never messed with it
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13:51 < bmh> morning'ish dev
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14:26 <+|amethyst> hm, CIA seems slow
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15:13 <+kilobyte> !tell HangedMan 4000 is correct: { FOOD_ROYAL_JELLY,  "royal jelly",  4000,     0,     0,  55, 1, FFL_NONE },
15:13 < Henzell> kilobyte: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
15:13 < Henzell> kilobyte: OK, I'll let HangedMan know.
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15:29 <+kilobyte> SamB: let's revert 003f65b5, it makes the names of artifacts it changes sound abysmal
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15:47 <+|amethyst> you could look for "'s" and avoid adding "the"
15:47 <+|amethyst> in itemname.cc:132-144
15:48 <+kilobyte> a hack but could work
15:48 <+|amethyst> there are similar hacks in other places :)
15:48 <+|amethyst> maybe "'s " to be more careful
15:49 <+kilobyte> a big fat no to having FLAG_THE in the artifact database, certainly -- my main project for 0.11 are translations, so all grammar code will have to be evicted from the game proper anyway
15:50 <+kilobyte> I thought about looking if the first character is uppercase (most uppercased artefacts shouldn't be IMO), but that could make the Wrath of Trog awkward
15:51 <+kilobyte> third idea, manual "the" in English name, like "the Enchantress" or "the royal jelly"
15:53 <+|amethyst> That would need fixes in other places
15:54 <+|amethyst> since it would make DESC_PLAIN etc include "the"
15:55 <+|amethyst> ugh... "Vampire's Tooth"
15:56 <+|amethyst> I guess it could omit "the", but since "Vampire" isn't a proper noun it's not necessary
15:57 <+|amethyst> likewise all the other ones that SamB didn't change
15:57 <+|amethyst> And they sound kind of funny without "the"
15:57 <+kilobyte> "Captain's cutlass" or "Fencer's gloves" shouldn't be capitalized IMO
15:59 <+kilobyte> either title case for both words, or everything lowercased; anything else looks weird to me
15:59 <+|amethyst> that would work, then use capital letter and presence of a "'s "
16:00 <+|amethyst> I think the change to Wyrmbane should stay, though probably it should be "lance" rather than "spear"
16:00 < ZChris13> new base type gogogo
16:00 <+|amethyst> it matches the other named artefacts like Piercer, Sharnga, Punk...
16:01 <+|amethyst> not a new base type, but maybe it would make sense to give it different base stats now that that's possible
16:01 <+kilobyte> heh, the other commit in that push needs to be reverted as well, it makes dc-unrand.txt and tiledef-unrand.cc generated twice, with a race condition as well
16:02 <+kilobyte> ZChris13: we can redefine BASE_{ACC,DAM,DELAY} now
16:02 < ZChris13> oh dang
16:02 < ZChris13> nice
16:02 < ZChris13> So you really can make a katana unrand
16:02 < alefury> they already did!
16:02 <+|amethyst> yup
16:02 < ZChris13> ??Autumn katana
16:02 < Henzell> autumn katana[1/1]: A +8,+8 vorpal katana {clarity} who didn't get the news about {katana} removal.  Dam 14 Acc +3 Delay 12.
16:02 < ZChris13> is it the same
16:02 < Zannick> isn't there another already?
16:03 < ZChris13> ??katana
16:03 < Henzell> katana[1/3]: A single-edged sword with a curved blade of ~70-90cm length. It is a very dangerous weapon usually known to be utilized by the samurai. Doesn't exist. (hand-and-a-half Long Blade; Dam 14 Acc +3 Delay 12)
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16:03 < ZChris13> oh it's the same, nice
16:03 < ZChris13> that's fancy
16:03 <+|amethyst> also cutlass and shillelagh
16:03 < ZChris13> really?
16:03 < ZChris13> The Captain's Cutlass is an oldschool cutlass?
16:03 <+kilobyte> people were talking about making Sword of Cerebov a flamberge as well
16:03 <+|amethyst> Devastator and Captain's cutlass have adjustments to the base stats
16:04 < ZChris13> oh cool
16:04 < Zannick> i can't remember the other unrand katana
16:04 <+|amethyst> ??bloodbane
16:04 < Henzell> bloodbane[1/2]: Unrandart +7,+8 vorpal demon blade that lets you berserk, makes you angry, and makes you less stealthy.
16:04 <+|amethyst> it's a demon blade now
16:04 < Zannick> ah
16:05 <+|amethyst> it might also make sense to change Sharnga's base stats
16:05 <+evilmike> is there any word on when constriction will be merged (or who is taking care of it)? bluedave was asking about this yesterday
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16:17 <+kilobyte> MarvinPA I think... although I'm getting less sure about that
16:19 <+kilobyte> an unrelated tidbit: thunar >>>>> nautilus for browsing directories with tiles.  It doesn't unnecesarily resample images small enough to fit (like 32x32 on both file managers after a single Ctrl-+).
16:21 <+evilmike> I'll ask MarvinPA next time I see him on irc
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16:54 < blueDave> !seen marvinpa
16:54 < Henzell> I last saw MarvinPA at Sun Dec 18 16:54:33 2011 UTC (4h 59m 51s ago) quitting with message Ping timeout: 252 seconds.
16:55 < blueDave> !tell MarvinPA are you merging constriction, or should I post again to ask for a volunteer :)
16:55 < Henzell> blueDave: OK, I'll let MarvinPA know.
17:00 <+greensnark> !lg * !tiles map=~evilmike gloorx vloq -tv
17:00 < Sequell> 1. pivotal, XL27 HuFi, T:114736 requested for FooTV.
17:02 <+greensnark> !gamesby pivotal
17:02 < Sequell> pivotal has played 684 games, between 20110728 and 20111216, won 24 (3.5%), high score 12310732, total score 84614322, total turns 8441072, total time 581:16:51.
17:02 <+evilmike> from what I remember, that was his 2nd pan splat in a row
17:02 <+greensnark> Nice smackdown by Gloorx
17:02 <+greensnark> And oops, wrong channel
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17:58 < AmElder> Hi all, I had some trouble building with tiles using the latest pull from master.  The problem fixed itself after I built the non-tiles version first.  Not looking for help, just sharing in case someone else encounters the same problem.
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18:00 < alefury> |amethyst: ^^
18:01 <+|amethyst> hm
18:02 <+|amethyst> AmElder:  do you have the error message available
18:02 <+|amethyst> ?
18:02 < AmElder> yep, I'll put it in paste-bin.  Give me a moment.
18:04 < AmElder> At the end of the build process: http://pastebin.com/D9XZanLV
18:04 < Gretell> autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:1)
18:05 <+|amethyst> hm, you're not the first to have the problem
18:05 < AmElder> Good to know.
18:05 <+|amethyst> but it's completely unclear why it's happening
18:05 < AmElder> I made sure all my libraries were up to date.
18:05 <+|amethyst> anyway, there's a trivial fix so might as well apply that
18:06 < AmElder> I'm in Xubuntu.
18:06 <+|amethyst> what version of gcc is that?
18:07 <+|amethyst> and are you building with any special options?
18:07 < Gretell> autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 939 failed. (D:1)
18:07 <+|amethyst> hm
18:07 < AmElder> I was building using gcc 4.5.2 using the TILES=y option
18:08 < AmElder> I then ran make again without option this time
18:08 < AmElder> The build completed without errors
18:08 < AmElder> Then when I tried again, this time with the tiles option, it succeeded
18:13 <@due> that's odd
18:13 <+|amethyst> did make clean, doing a tiles build to see if I can reproduce the problem.
18:14 <@due> was that from a clean build?
18:14 <+|amethyst> building without tiles first fixed it, so I assume so
18:14 <@due> that looks as though player_mutation_level has been removed or moved
18:14 <+|amethyst> aha
18:14 <@due> but that it's re-using one of the objects and not recompiling it
18:14 <+|amethyst> that's it
18:14 <+|amethyst> it changed prototype
18:14 <@due> so the linker is failing to find the refernece
18:14 <@due> ah
18:15 <+|amethyst> but
18:15 <+|amethyst> it should have been rebuilt
18:15 <@due> but it should have been rebuilt.
18:15 <@due> exactly.
18:15 <@due> solution would be to nukee whatever .o file contains player_mutation_level; I'm not sure why it wouldn;'t rebuild, thoguh.
18:15 <+|amethyst> it's that the dependents don't rebuild
18:16 <+|amethyst> it got a second optional parameter
18:16 <+|amethyst> hm
18:16 <+|amethyst> are the .d files recursive?
18:17 <@due> they should be
18:18 <+|amethyst> it built fine for me again.
18:19 <+|amethyst> AmElder:  could you reproduce the error and pastebin your evoke.d ?
18:20 < AmElder> I can try
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18:20 <+|amethyst> here they include player.h
18:20 <+|amethyst> hm
18:20 < AmElder> The thing is the build with tiles worked last time
18:21 <+|amethyst> yeah... something changed in the header, but that was supposed to cause those .ccs to be rebuilt
18:21 <+|amethyst> it looks like they were not rebuilt.
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18:21 < AmElder> Well, it builds with the  option without problem now
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18:21 <+|amethyst> hm
18:22 <+|amethyst> I guess to reproduce I'd have to build an old version, update back to master, and rebuild without cleaning
18:23 <+|amethyst> AmElder:  Can you verify whether it did   CXX evoke.o    (and exclude.o and godpassive.o)?
18:23 < AmElder> I can follow directions, but I wont be good at trouble-shooting myself in C
18:23 <+|amethyst> if you still have the make output that is
18:23 < AmElder> AmElder, I can
18:23 < AmElder> I should
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18:24 < AmElder> No, CXX evoke.o
18:24 <+|amethyst> hmm
18:24 <+|amethyst> even stranger
18:25 < AmElder> and then you were asking the same question about exclude.o and godpassive .o
18:25 < AmElder> neither
18:25 <+|amethyst> wait
18:25 <+|amethyst> do you mean, no, it wasn't there?
18:25 <+|amethyst> or no it was there?
18:25 < AmElder> The command doesn't appear on the command line output
18:26 <+|amethyst> okay
18:26 <+|amethyst> that's the proximate cause
18:26 <+|amethyst> and does your evoke.d contain player.h ?
18:27 < AmElder> I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.  My understanding of C is minimal.
18:27 <+|amethyst> the file evoke.d
18:27 <+|amethyst> it's a make rule
18:27 <+|amethyst> does it contain the string "player.h" ?
18:27 < AmElder> checking
18:28 < AmElder> yes, it does
18:28 <+|amethyst> hm
18:29 <+|amethyst> which doesn't mean it contained the string when you first had the problem
18:29 < AmElder> Nope.
18:33 <+|amethyst> AmElder:  the bug is at https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=5075 btw
18:33 <+|amethyst> AmElder:  if you think of anything else to add
18:33 < AmElder> Thanks, I'll take a look.  Is it better in general to come here or to submit the bug directly?
18:33 <+|amethyst> it should be a one time thing that was fixed by the rebuild
18:34 <+|amethyst> Come here then submit the bug
18:35 <+|amethyst> if no one's answering here, just go ahead and submit it :)
18:35 < AmElder> Cool.
18:35 < AmElder> Yeah.  But I've had one other bug that I've helped track and I've found there always seems to be someone or two hanging out here.
18:38 < AmElder> It had been a while since I played (and updated my build)
18:39 < Henzell> qtip the Farming Petrodigitator (L27 DDEE) ASSERT(feat_is_solid(feat)) in 'beam.cc' at line 1114 failed on turn 213447. (Tar:1)
18:40 <+|amethyst> !lm qtip crash -log
18:40 < Sequell> 2. qtip, XL27 DDEE, T:213447 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/qtip/crash-qtip-20111218-233952.txt
18:41 <+|amethyst> 0.9.0 crash, LCS killing an eldritch tentacle
18:44 <+|amethyst> I believe that's fixed in 0.9.1 even
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18:58 <@due> that is really strange still
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19:17 < CIA-54> |amethyst * r01897326c937 /crawl-ref/source/ (mutation.cc mutation.h player.cc transform.cc): More mutation-form improvements.
19:17 < CIA-54> |amethyst * r36f99feda7a1 /crawl-ref/source/ (mutation.cc player.cc): Do not give scale EV penalties when transformed.
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19:26 < CIA-54> |amethyst * ra316fb81c75e /crawl-ref/source/rltiles/tool/tile_list_processor.cc: Avoid spurious regeneration of tiledef headers.
19:29  * due spuriously regenerates |amethyst :)
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20:07 < CIA-54> dolorous * r07a1e103d783 /crawl-ref/source/attitude-change.cc: Fix Mantis 5087: Strip channel prefix from monster speech, as is done elsewhere.
20:13 < CIA-54> evilmike * r17105a68c695 /crawl-ref/source/dat/dlua/ziggurat.lua: Remove shedu bands from holy zig levels, add other holy monsters.
20:14 < CIA-54> evilmike * rd48ceeeb5743 /crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Don't generate bandless shedus in the holy pan level.
20:15 < CIA-54> dolorous * r0754bb619760 /crawl-ref/source/libutil.cc: Properly pluralize "swine" as "swine".
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21:54 < Wensley> greensnark: ping
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22:04 < moxian> Concerning that compile error - I'm curently looking at the makefile, and it seems, that dependances are generated every time, but only loaded when .cflags changes.
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22:04 < moxian> or I'd better put it on the mantis?
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22:08 < elderman> |amethyst, was looking at it before. It looks like he's still around.
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22:14 <+|amethyst> oh
22:15 < moxian> it's on lines 1060 - 1069. Endifs should be a little bit higher, IMO.
22:16 <+|amethyst> yeah
22:22 < CIA-54> |amethyst * rf82d76d3c7be /crawl-ref/source/Makefile: Always include .d files in Makefile (moxian).
22:23 < moxian> thanks ^_^
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22:59 <+greensnark> Wensley: Que?
23:01 < Wensley> greensnark: hi :) I'm making a new version of this page: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/player-status and noticed that the url that populates that table with CAO's data ( http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/dgl-status/ ) isn't returning anything
23:02 < Wensley> I think cdo occasionally has trouble with the dglwhere daemon going down, that might be the cause
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23:06 <+greensnark> Was there such a URL for CAO?
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23:07 <+greensnark> dglwhere daemon is running
23:07 <+greensnark> I wasn't aware of this CGI script, let me take a peek
23:08 <+greensnark> Oh
23:09 <+greensnark> So that's where dgamelaunch-new was used
23:09 <+greensnark> That explains much :P
23:09 <+greensnark> !tell rax dgamelaunch-new was used by Napking's CGI script that served http://crawl.akrasiac.org/cgi-bin/dgl-status/
23:09 < Henzell> greensnark: OK, I'll let rax know.
23:10 < Wensley> care to elaborate? :)
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23:10 <+greensnark> Oh, the CGI script uses a new dgl binary
23:10 <+greensnark> Which was named dgamelaunch-new
23:11 <+greensnark> Which rax found the other day when dgl spectate started locking up on CAO
23:11 < Wensley> I see
23:11 < Wensley> was it causing the lockup?
23:11 <+greensnark> She wasn't aware of the CGI script and didn't know what dgamelaunch-new was, so she moved it out of the way
23:11 <+greensnark> I'm not sure what caused the deadlock
23:12 <+greensnark> Some dgl process died after flipping the shmem semaphore
23:12 < Wensley> okay
23:13 <+greensnark> Ok, that CGI script should work once more
23:13 <+greensnark> !tell rax I did mv dgamelaunch-formerly-known-as-new dgamelaunch-cgi-web-status
23:13 < Henzell> greensnark: OK, I'll let rax know.
23:14 <+greensnark> I suppose I should check if spectating works :P
23:14 <+greensnark> Seems to
23:15 < Wensley> hooray, it works :)
23:17 <+greensnark> Handy player status menu that
23:17 <+greensnark> Nice work
23:17 <+greensnark> I just need to be able to spectate tty games from there :)
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23:26 <@rax> Oh hey that was doing soemthing!
23:26 < Henzell> rax: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
23:26 <@rax> Thanks greensnark
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23:36 < SteampunkDuck> Hi, I was told to pop in here because mantis doesn't seem to want to send me an email but I have to go soon
23:37 < SteampunkDuck> Basic problem is that on gentoo I updated libpng, and now I can't build crawl
23:37 < SteampunkDuck> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/justin/Programs/crawl/crawl-ref/source/rltiles'
23:37 < SteampunkDuck> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/include/libpng14/png.h', needed by `tool/tile_colour.o'.  Stop.
23:37 < SteampunkDuck> MarvinPA said that people in here would have a better idea what to do with it tha nhe would
23:46 < moxian> do you have that '/usr/include/libpng14/png.h'?
23:46 < moxian> most probably no, but it's better to ask.
23:46 < SteampunkDuck> Nope, according to the fine fols at #gentoo no package in tree has that anymore
23:47 < moxian> can you try re-making crawl?
23:47 < SteampunkDuck> re-making?
23:47 < moxian> 'make clean' then make
23:48 < SteampunkDuck> ok :)
23:48 < moxian> or it was a clean build already?
23:48 < SteampunkDuck> it wasn't
23:48 < SteampunkDuck> I wasn't aware of that command on account of being a noob
23:48 < SteampunkDuck> dcss was my introduction to how to compile stuff
23:48 < moxian> I think it's another case of dependances not loading, which was fixed some 2 hours ago.
23:50 < SteampunkDuck> haha i see
23:50 < SteampunkDuck> well I'll do another git pull origin if no nice on this front
23:50 < SteampunkDuck> she's still chuggin
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23:52 < moxian> well, if re-making doesn't help,I doubt, that  git pull will
23:52 < moxian> but still worth trying, yes
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23:54 < blueDave> you might also need to use 'git submodule update' to see if any contribs changed
23:55 < SteampunkDuck> hm
23:55 < SteampunkDuck> well it's still building
23:56 < moxian> is it possible to configure git so that it does 'submodile update' on each pull?
23:56 < blueDave> don't know, I'm relatively new at this too
23:58 < SteampunkDuck> nice! that fixed it
23:58 < SteampunkDuck> thanks for the help! Sorry for the pestering ;)
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