00:00:32 right now 8/15 runes are strictly demonic, for what it's worth 00:00:37 that's kind of a large proportion 00:00:47 er, 9! 00:01:50 10 00:02:08 well, I guess abyss isn't strictly demonic, but it's pretty clos 00:02:32 <|amethyst> four holy branches plus a vestibule, and make it so you have to choose between that and hell (can't do both) 00:02:44 and tomb is undead 00:03:04 |amethyst: you've introduced a new concept here, specifically branches that are exclusive but not through coinflips 00:03:24 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1791-g303d37c (32) 00:03:32 I don't know how much the devs are fans of that kind of symmetry though between holy and demonic 00:03:50 Make it so that after defeating Geryon you can destroy his horn (applying it, giving you a choice) 00:03:52 4 holy branches sounds like a ton of work 00:03:59 ^ 00:04:04 <|amethyst> or maybe split vestibule into two levels, and have 2 unholy branch on one level and 2 holy on the other 00:04:24 <|amethyst> I've heard three suggestions so far 00:04:52 one of the reasons I like holy pan level is that it should be the least amount of work 00:04:57 ogaz: to be fair, the 4 hell branches are hardly branches anyway 00:05:12 a holy pan level sounds really really odd 00:10:18 -!- Arian- has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:18:48 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1791-g303d37c 00:20:21 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:53 http://www.roguetemple.com/z/hyper.php 00:21:58 this is amazing 00:22:46 ooh I've wondered about that concept for a while 00:22:51 seems someone's actually done it? 00:22:58 I just started playing it 00:23:21 we need a hyperbolic branch in crawl 00:23:43 filled with nothing but your ghosts 00:24:14 i once played a 3d maze game that used noneuclidean geometry 00:24:18 it was kind of nauseating but cool 00:37:01 moin 00:37:36 what's this new feature "graft" of mercurial? sounds like git cherry-pick 00:42:14 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:43:14 mikee the Twirler (L3 TePr) (D:2) 00:44:46 !lm mikee crash -log 00:44:46 9. mikee, XL3 TePr, T:1709 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/mikee/crash-mikee-20111109-064313.txt 00:45:03 there's a bug in the kills_by_place table in character logs 00:45:06 scroll to the very bottom: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/evilmike/morgue-evilmike-20111109-061436.txt 00:45:52 yeah, I noticed that a while ago in one of marvinpa's morgues 00:46:25 I wasn't motivated to do anything about it because he was the only person I had ever seen use that option :P 00:46:41 I've used it for a while, although I only recently copied his rcfile 00:47:04 also I seem to have gotten an extremely large list of monsters from it... 00:47:53 <|amethyst> evilmike: I've seen the same bug in my dumps 00:48:02 hey evilmike, didn't you mail danr the list of devs to be marked in the tavern? 00:48:05 <|amethyst> as for the monsters, lots of them are tentacle segments 00:48:15 <|amethyst> which maybe should be excluded 00:48:20 Napkin: I looked through the entire tavern userlist, I was the only one missing 00:48:37 there are other devs that never post on the tavern 00:48:42 great, found out how to do that yesterday, i think 00:49:05 well, I messaged danr and he added me already, so he does read his messages 00:49:18 ah, good :) 00:51:09 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:59:38 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 01:04:58 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:18:06 -!- Lohen has quit [] 02:24:48 moin 02:25:08 hi zaba 02:25:09 huh 02:26:13 wtf 02:26:16 hm? 02:26:21 int durt = (random2(10) + random2(5) + 2); 02:26:26 mon-death.cc:547: error: no matching function for call to ‘map_phoenix_marker::map_phoenix_marker(const coord_def&, const int&, int, mon_attitude_type&, god_type, const coord_def&)’ 02:26:37 I'm passing durt as the second parameter. 02:27:28 how the heck did it become int&? 02:28:00 check the other parameters first? 02:28:33 at least here, it takes a beh_type, not a e 02:28:39 not a mon_attitude_type 02:28:50 OHHH 02:28:55 Right 02:29:09 Hm, uint32_t -- that's unsigned long, not int, right? 02:29:25 no, that's int 02:29:55 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:31:14 oh good 02:31:29 will it auto-coerce to int if I pass it? 02:33:25 it will probably work, but then, there isn't any guarantee that they are the same 02:33:38 so I will static-cast it 02:33:44 er 02:33:50 rather, I can static-cast it safely, though? 02:35:45 -!- Arian- has joined ##crawl-dev 02:39:00 hooray it linked! 02:39:05 or rather it is linking 02:39:13 well, the only problems may occur when your int is somehow smaller than 32 bits, and that's pretty unlikely, I think 02:39:41 let's kill some motherfucking phoenixes! :D 02:40:15 oh 02:40:17 that won't work 02:40:23 I forgot to actually timeout phoenix markers, whoops 02:45:19 alas no worky :( 02:58:47 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 03:09:23 Huh, or rather, it does. 03:09:26 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:09:27 but it resurrects them instantly 03:12:07 evilmike: have you looked at the commented out stub for the holy level in pan.des? 03:12:17 due: so how are phoenix intended to work? 03:12:21 kilobyte: gonna look at it now 03:12:37 evilmike: indeed demons and holies don't mix, so we can override the monster set so only holies will randomly generate 03:13:06 I don't understand why a pan holy level makes sense 03:13:29 kilobyte: yeah, that seems like the way to go. however, I think it should also be an encompass vault... otherwise I dont know of any (good) way to prevent portals from randomly spawning in it 03:13:35 G-Flex: a foothold in the war 03:13:49 since, i figure an entire holy pan level is a bit pointless if you can just dive past it 03:13:58 G-Flex: they leave a corpse; it is reborn a few turns later unless you destory the corpse 03:14:06 G-Flex: very similar to shedu, in a way, but without the external influence 03:17:31 evilmike: that's more of a short-term test 03:19:11 * due stabs phoenixes 03:19:14 due: so mostly a problem if there are other monsters left to fight, or if you can't get to their corpses for some other reason 03:19:26 G-Flex: basically, yes. 03:19:42 that could be a problem if they come in packs :P 03:19:57 they don't :) 03:21:38 why is this using the default 0 when I'm providing a value? 03:21:41 consider the power of holy popcorn 03:21:56 the outlier, apis, is pretty weak -- only equivalent to dire elephants 03:22:04 compare to demons... 03:22:47 @??apis 03:22:47 apis (16Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 16 | Health: 100-148 | AC/EV: 9/5 | Damage: 4008(holy) | Flags: 08holy, lev | Res: 06magic(106), 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 1763. 03:22:55 that's still more melee damage than most high-tier demons :P 03:23:35 I think reapers get more, and a couple with elemental attacks. even executioners are only 30,10,10 I think 03:23:45 base angels lose to pan lords... 1:6 03:24:10 how many other monsters get non-zero arena ratio with top tier stuff at all? 03:24:38 kilobyte: can you glance at my tweaks to map markers? fo rsome reason the duration is always being set to 0 and I can't work out why :( http://sprunge.us/IKHC 03:25:20 I'd guess certain summoner monsters could probably beat way stronger stuff 03:25:39 eg a shadow demon summoning in pandemonium 03:26:54 kilobyte: specifically phoenix_died :( 03:27:49 nothing obvious from reading the code, lemme debug 03:28:28 that's what I thought 03:29:32 * kilobyte has little clue about markers, though. 03:29:59 OH 03:30:00 OH 03:30:04 + if (duration) 03:30:05 + mmark->duration -= mmark->duration; 03:30:11 I get the "duh" award 03:30:40 :) 03:31:33 one issue: place next to each other: phoenix, a fire bat and a bunch of butterflies 03:31:41 yeah 03:31:44 I want to take them off that glyph 03:31:44 'Q'? 03:31:49 '6'? 03:31:58 Q would work 03:32:02 6 I think it "reserved" for demons 03:32:05 are there any other large flying creatures? 03:32:10 Yes. 03:32:10 there's "H" 03:32:11 On H. 03:32:23 I know I've seen 6's but I forget what they are. Gargoyles? 03:32:30 No, 6 isunused. 03:32:33 9 are gargoyles. 03:32:42 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:32:43 I could swear I've seen a 6 but maybe I'm confused. 03:34:27 for [g]nomes, I'd really want a glyph for swimmable walls... but ASCII is stuffed 03:34:56 swimmable walls? 03:35:21 ones that have access to air 03:35:38 H is for hybrids, which doesn't work for phoenixes 03:35:47 oh 03:35:57 right, minotaurs are H as well 03:36:16 Q and 6 are the only unused alphanumeric glyphs left, afaik 03:36:19 so yeah, hybrids aside, I think "b" is the only "flying thing" glyph 03:39:36 Yeah. 03:39:41 we could greatly reduce the number of colours for butterflies 03:39:48 kilobyte: the othe roption is to make butterflies all the one colour. 03:39:50 that would be a good idea 03:40:42 I think butterflies should still be multicoloured... the rainbow effect is a big part of the spell 03:40:53 could leave out colors that confuse them with other things 03:41:01 you could cut down the number of colors 03:41:02 but restricting it to like 4 colours would still preserve the effect, and free up space 03:41:59 Yeah 03:42:09 Maybe restrict them to light colours? 03:43:03 good idea 03:43:25 hmm 03:43:30 they work perfectly now 03:43:34 but... not quite 03:46:25 then what would phoenix be? Dark red 'b'? 03:46:58 bonus comedy option: allow enemy glyphs to use elemental color schemes (or can elementals already do that?) 03:47:03 er 03:47:10 that's always been allowed ;) 03:47:11 lots of enemies do that :P 03:47:12 oh wait, enemies do that when sticky-flamed too 03:47:17 I mean inner-flamed 03:47:21 whatever the hell it's called 03:47:22 simulacra, hellions... some others 03:47:26 oh right 03:47:27 water elementals I think 03:47:33 yes 03:47:33 efreets 03:47:42 so basically... elemental things 03:47:59 phoenixes are currently elemental fire 03:48:19 fgrep ETC_ mon-data.h ;p 03:48:22 isn't the plural just "phoenix"? I forget. 03:48:47 it's either 03:49:22 well, there was only one bird in the pseudo-Egyptian myth, so says Herodotus. 03:49:42 be extra-pretentious and do "phoenices" (don't) 03:49:57 hrm, does crawl allow the use of "a" before a name starting with a vowel? 03:50:03 or would it say "an eunuch"? 03:50:08 uh 03:50:12 it would say a eunuch 03:50:14 I think 03:50:24 you might need to hard-case it though 03:50:40 I'm not sure if there are any current monsters that start with vowels but not vowel sounds, unless you count ones with no standard pronunciation to begin with (ufetebus) 03:50:44 actually, no, it would say an eunuch, probably 03:51:11 possibly a dancing eudaemon blade 03:51:19 But I don't think that would ever get an indefinite article 03:51:31 it would in the monster list, right? 03:51:51 or maybe there aren't articles there 03:52:18 I'm curious how most people pronounce the more alphabet-soup names in crawl, like "yredelemnul" and "ufetebus" and "sixfirhy" 03:52:44 I don't 03:53:01 also, ynoxinul 03:53:05 Ye-red-ell-em-null. 03:53:15 yredelemnul wouldn't really start with a "ye-" 03:53:23 Well, "ee". 03:53:26 yeah. 03:53:27 But it could. 03:53:32 There's nothing to stop it. 03:53:33 or "i" (as in "rip") 03:53:38 come on, sixfirhy is easy to pronounce 03:53:55 it could, but only in the sense that you can pronounce anything like anything by saying it came from a fictional language :P 03:54:37 G-Flex: I am pretty sure I could find an example of a non-fictional language that pronounces 'y' not followed by a vowel as a glide :p 03:54:51 but... lazy 03:54:53 fair enough 03:54:57 fictional or arbitrary, then :P 03:55:18 of course, if you're talking exotic languages, then it's less a product of the language and more the product of a transliteration standard 03:56:05 * due shrugs. 03:56:24 I like words :( 03:56:27 "sixfirhy" "six-fur-hee" :D 03:56:38 same here, although without very much of an "h" 03:56:47 I play competitive Scrabble and read books on linguistics and phonetics :D 03:56:51 so between "six-fur-hee" and "six-furry" 03:57:37 I like the nonsense monster names in crawl 03:58:03 sometimes you give a decent sense of identity to something by giving it a name that doesn't exist anywhere else 03:58:14 it's tripped me up though... I didn't know until recently that Ereshkigal was an actual thing 03:58:19 ??ynoxinul[2] 03:58:19 ynoxinul[2/3]: The reason why the devteam are no longer allowed to name monsters by mashing their fists into the keyboard. otoh, {sixfirhy} 03:58:24 ??sixfirhy[2] 03:58:25 sixfirhy[2/4]: Unlike neqoxecs, Ilsuiw, ynoxinuls and Kikubaaqudgha which are merely suspected of being named by a cat (http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/06/06/funny-pictures-was-really-invented/), this one is known to be. 03:58:33 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 03:58:38 all the hell lords are actual things 03:58:44 yeah 03:58:49 Ereshkigal <3 03:58:53 I knew the other ones, just not that one 03:58:55 I think if you google her you only get crawl, though. 03:59:04 She's the Goddess of Death/the Night in ... Sumerian, I think. 03:59:04 that would be disappointing 03:59:11 mesopotamian/sumerian names always sound fake for some reason 03:59:11 Or some Mesopotamian. 03:59:18 Yeah. 03:59:19 probably because fake names often sound like those! 03:59:22 Enki! Gilgamesh! 03:59:29 https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1SKPC_enUS324US324&aq=f&gcx=c&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ereshkigal 03:59:33 nope 04:00:04 start using welsh and czech for any new creatures/uniques 04:00:07 really screw everyone up 04:00:18 czech or polish would be great 04:00:23 everybody misspelling "Pwll" in the learndb 04:00:42 just stack like 6 consonants next to each other 04:00:52 or start forcing unicode and piss everyone off with CJK glyphs 04:01:15 a roguelike that used japanese scripts for things could actually be kind of interesting 04:01:28 (also, they're pretty much square, which helps visually!) 04:02:02 We can do unicode :) 04:02:18 yeah. I still use IBM because I don't like unicode walls/clouds 04:02:28 # walls bug me 04:03:18 but unicode is pretty great 04:08:10 due: just troll the entire remotely-knowledgable portion of the userbase by calling them "phoenicii" 04:09:10 hahahahahhaaha 04:09:22 FR: phoenician unique 04:09:36 "Straight from the docks of Tyre & Sidon!" 04:09:42 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: sleep] 04:09:47 Also, snobbily comments on how most modern scripts are derived from theirs. 04:10:17 That would be amazing 04:10:38 Philo of Byblos! 04:10:47 He could have Wenamun trailing sadly behind him, carrying an idol of Zin. 04:13:52 dooo it 04:19:40 put the voynich manuscript in crawl 04:19:51 (a spellbook that you can't memorize from until you identify it) 04:36:29 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day...] 04:36:41 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 05:00:07 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1791-g303d37c 05:00:46 G-Flex: <33 05:01:52 -!- Ragdoll_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:34 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:52 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:05:42 you know... I think crawl has increased my expectations too much. I don't know if I could enjoy another roguelike nearly as much, considering how many convenience features crawl has, between autotraveling, stash-searching, the knowledge bots, etc. 05:06:26 crawl was my first roguelike; it's made picking up others hard 05:06:50 Except Doomrl, I beat doomrl a year or so back and it was a ton of fun 05:21:31 -!- jle has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:27:59 -!- rejuxst has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:50 -!- Ragdoll_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:40:14 -!- rejuxst has left ##crawl-dev 05:41:56 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:36 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 05:53:25 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:14 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 06:04:17 does an LOS radius iterator restrict to player LOS? I forget 06:12:40 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:13 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:06 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:20 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: Ik ga weg] 07:02:08 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:37 autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 07:14:39 autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 07:14:40 autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 07:14:42 autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 07:14:45 autorobin (L1 FeBe) ASSERT(x >= 1 && x <= sz.x) in 'libutil.cc' at line 941 failed. (D:1) 07:15:44 !lm * crash -log 07:15:44 1855. autorobin, XL1 FeBe, T:6 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/autorobin/crash-autorobin-20111109-131439.txt 07:18:39 so currently stuff is crashing when you try to save? 07:24:09 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:46:40 -!- Brannock_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:52:03 -!- jle has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:29 <|amethyst> G-Flex: known uncursed, not wielded 07:53:31 <|amethyst> doh 07:59:05 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:44 Scroll highlighted as if uncursed item in inventory (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4874) by G-Flex 08:04:52 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:28 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:05:54 Morning 08:26:36 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:26:48 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:26 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:40 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 08:31:54 Find Enhancement Request - search against + (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4875) by XuaXua 08:36:52 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:38:09 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:34 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 08:41:57 Find Enhancement Request - alias "armor" for "armour" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4876) by XuaXua 08:45:14 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 08:46:47 -!- jarpiain has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:47:26 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:47:27 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 08:53:04 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:30 -!- jarpiain is now known as Guest42651 09:00:56 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:01 03dolorous * r626a6eec0188 10/crawl-ref/source/godprayer.cc: Add comment fixes. 09:01:12 03dolorous * r5281212c96f2 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Properly check the American spelling "memorize". 09:01:12 03dolorous * r32690c807b4c 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Properly check the American spelling of e.g. "ego armor", as done elsewhere. 09:01:40 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:09:33 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:14:04 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:14:45 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 09:17:21 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:14 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:23:04 -!- Ragdoll_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:23:04 -!- Ragdoll_ has quit [Client Quit] 09:24:00 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:02 -!- Ragdoll_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:09 -!- Ragdoll_ is now known as Ragdoll 09:31:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:14 Unequipping an item can cause no skill to be active in manual training mode (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4877) by Amonchakad 09:32:42 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:57 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:16 * SamB wishes absently that XChat-WDK had somewhere near the shitload of browser choices in the context menu for URLs that the native *nix XChat has... 09:38:26 -!- Euphoria has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:57 that's odd, firefox can't find crawl.develz.org :-( 09:42:43 restart it? might be its dns cache 09:42:46 <|amethyst> is it maybe trying the ipv6 address rather than the ipv4? 09:43:00 which should not be a problem 09:43:01 <|amethyst> or is the message a lookup failure 09:43:08 I'm having problems adding the crawl repository to linux mint. can't seem to get the key to take. 09:43:08 I'm having problems adding the crawl repository to linux mint. can't seem to get the key to take. 09:43:18 use sudo, Euphoria 09:45:31 Yeah, tried sudo with that. The website says to use "wget http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey -O - | apt-key add -" I suppose I should try using wget http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey -O - | sudo apt-key add -" instead? 09:45:52 exactly 09:46:31 Forgive the flood but I get this: 09:46:34 --2011-11-09 09:32:38-- http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey 09:46:34 Resolving crawl.develz.org... 46.4.68.88, 2a01:4f8:140:3041::2:2 09:46:34 Connecting to crawl.develz.org|46.4.68.88|:80... connected. 09:46:34 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK 09:46:34 Length: 1735 (1.7K) [application/octet-stream] 09:46:35 Saving to: `STDOUT' 09:46:37 100%[======================================>] 1,735 --.-K/s in 0s 09:46:39 2011-11-09 09:32:38 (35.0 MB/s) - written to stdout [1735/1735] 09:46:41 gpg: no writable keyring found: eof 09:46:43 gpg: error reading `-': general error 09:46:45 gpg: import from `-' failed: general error 09:47:05 gpg: no writable keyring found: eof 09:47:27 does "sudo apt-key list" show anything? 09:48:07 I'm fairly noob with linux so I'm not sure how to resolve anything. I was able to download it with the it yelling at me that it was unsigned, and that my life may be in danger if I download it... 09:49:12 hehe 09:49:12 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg 09:49:13 -------------------- 09:49:13 pub 1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 09:49:13 uid Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key 09:49:13 sub 2048g/79164387 2004-09-12 09:49:13 pub 1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 09:49:15 uid Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key 09:49:17 pub 1024D/3E5C1192 2010-09-20 09:49:19 uid Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key 09:49:21 pub 1024D/0FF405B2 2009-04-29 09:49:23 uid Clement Lefebvre (Linux Mint Package Repository v1) 09:49:27 sub 2048g/0F346519 2009-04-29 09:49:29 pub 1024D/0C5A2783 2006-11-23 09:49:31 uid Medibuntu Packaging Team 09:49:33 uid The Medibuntu Team 09:49:35 sub 2048g/16C7105A 2006-11-23 09:49:37 <|amethyst> Euphoria: is that file writable by root? 09:49:37 pub 4096R/46D7E7CF 2009-05-15 09:49:39 uid GetDeb Archive Automatic Signing Key 09:49:41 pub 1024R/0624A220 2009-01-19 09:49:43 uid Launchpad PPA for TualatriX 09:49:44 er, pastebin maybe? 09:49:45 <|amethyst> Euphoria: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg that is 09:49:51 paste the command line that you used which game the error messages above? 09:50:01 :P 09:50:41 because the "gpg: no writable keyring found" error is exactly what's supposed to happen if you do _not_ use sudo 09:51:07 so... sure you did use sudo? 09:52:00 I think "sudo wget http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey -O - | sudo apt-key add -" did the trick, though I don't think I needed the sudo wget, lol I dunno 09:52:19 <|amethyst> right, you only need sudo on apt-key 09:52:21 yeah, shouldn't have been necessary 09:54:25 Ok. All is good. Would be nice to have the link to the key to just download and save and import into the software manager, as an option, for those of us who are clumsy with the command line syntax. XD 09:54:46 http://crawl.develz.org/debian/pubkey ;) 09:55:42 yeah, a nice link to a crawl-key.gpg on the debian section. :) 09:55:43 pasting the line (if it works, that is) should be way easier than clicking through some software manager interface 09:56:19 should be, but then there are more flavors of linux than there are ice cream 09:56:24 you are talking about the Downloads page, Euphoria? 09:56:31 Yes. 09:58:08 Anyway, just an idea. Options are good. :) 09:58:11 done :) 09:58:24 You're awesome. Thanks. 10:00:06 Enjoy! 10:02:58 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:06:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:26:54 how does the autopickup work? i want to autopickup corpses 10:28:19 I know how to define autopickup exceptions, not sure how the autopickup *additions* work 10:28:34 probably pretty much the same? 10:29:57 oh, if you just want to pick them up you could probably do it by adding & to your list of autopickup glyphs? 10:30:26 or x or whatever the glyph for corpses is 10:30:38 is the same as normal edible food 10:30:39 ah, both apparently 10:30:56 & and X represent corpses, instead of % 10:31:00 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 10:31:16 alright, i added it. i broke some code again but after that testing 10:32:20 -!- ogaz has quit [] 10:33:39 okay, & works. my autodrop code doesnt anymore though 10:35:23 okay, that works now too. crawl.sendkeys("D") 10:35:23 sends D twice though 10:36:57 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:41:32 -!- ncampion has quit [Quit: Linkinus - http://linkinus.com] 10:52:39 Merging Ranged Base Hit Bonuses (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4878) by Caethan 10:57:03 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:11:35 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 11:11:52 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12:03 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 11:13:20 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:44 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:21:01 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:21:20 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:42:10 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:06 -!- alefury has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Iceape 2.0.11/20110929064733]] 11:51:34 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:51:37 evenings 11:52:15 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 11:54:16 03kilobyte * r7800ed88406e 10/crawl-ref/source/tilemcache.cc: Set weapon attachment for the gnoll sergeant tile. 12:12:47 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 12:15:20 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:16:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Disconnected by services] 12:16:05 -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523 12:20:03 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 12:20:56 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:30:55 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:10 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:03 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 12:53:41 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:18 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:55:37 -!- ais523_ is now known as ais523 12:57:46 why don't porcupines have passive quill damage on attack :[ 12:59:06 ??why[5] 12:59:07 I don't have a page labeled why[5] in my learndb. 12:59:53 because nobody loves them enough to code it :P 13:01:47 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 13:04:22 spiny frogs too 13:04:28 So everyone agrees on removing ?DC and using its probability for more interesting scrolls? 13:10:08 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:10:17 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:26 hm, perhaps nobody agrees :) Or rather, nobody cares. 13:11:11 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:11:49 well, i think it is somewhat interesting because its proactive rather than reactive 13:12:32 but there are enough ?RC for using ?DC to be completely optional 13:13:21 i think making DC affect all of los and reducing the number of ?RC would be better 13:13:22 dpeg: scroll of radiance? it makes a halo, anchored to where you read it 13:13:32 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:13:33 (not perm) 13:13:54 could have the halo be different colors 13:14:19 .01% disco 13:14:32 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 13:15:31 that would actually be an interesting scroll. just for giving people some more options against unseen horrors alone it would be nice (also orc wizards). not sure about use as a combat buff. enemies can hit you better too. 13:16:42 could be a cool hex spell or something too 13:17:24 replacement for see invis 13:23:07 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:56 why not center it on the player? 14:11:27 I was wondering, why can't you choose your weapon as a hunter? 14:11:45 xbow/bow/slings? 14:12:09 i thought you could with trunk? 14:12:25 I'm not sure 14:12:32 im pretty sure you can 14:12:38 that's great then :] 14:12:47 also javelins! 14:12:58 now trog/oka bothers to gift them 14:13:58 that's awesome too 14:15:22 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:19:01 lrc is still inconsistent 14:19:03 *lrd 14:19:23 even tiles you see are sometimes on the other side of a wall, and get affected 14:19:43 ###, target the second tile, the one above the leftmost gets hit 14:19:54 just killed an deep elf mage this way 14:20:26 lrd just does a 3x3 radius? 14:20:44 "3x3 radius" doesn't make a whole lot of sense 14:20:48 but yeah usually it's a 3x3 area 14:21:03 sometimes, cast on some monsters/walls, it's higher 14:21:09 or any wall really at sufficient spellpower, I think 14:21:42 yeah, then its just getting more circleshaped. i think like a 5x5 circle 14:21:46 you can get huge area of effect out of, say, blowing up a green crystal wall 14:21:57 and then 7x7 with green crystal/stone elementals 14:22:12 still this seems relatively consistant 14:22:45 if a wall doesnt break, 3x3, if it does, 5x5, and for crystal/skellies/other thingies 7x7 14:23:31 by "5x5" and "7x7" do you mean an approximated circle inscribed within a 5x5/7x7 square? 14:33:40 yes. 14:39:16 -!- syllogism has quit [] 14:39:56 -!- Pingas has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:40:08 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 15:08:33 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:23:00 -!- Guest42651 is now known as jarpiain 15:24:08 -!- Euphoria has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:35:51 <|amethyst> has anyone had a chance to test my twisted res changes? 15:37:54 <|amethyst> (available via: git clone -b twisted-automation git://gitorious.org/~neilmoore/crawl/neilmoore-crawl.git ) 15:45:45 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:50 |amethyst: hrm, what did you change? I'm curious 15:52:45 <|amethyst> G-Flex: implemented kilobyte's implementable for self-assembly abominations 15:52:52 <|amethyst> s/bly/bling/ 15:52:55 <|amethyst> https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4601 15:53:36 <|amethyst> G-Flex: so now you don't have to pile corpses; just cast and you'll get super-weak "crawling corpses" which merge to form (also weak) "macabre masses" and then (not so weak) abominations 15:54:14 <|amethyst> I also made it a monster spell and substituted it for Animate Dead in the deep elf spell lists (death mage, priest, and high priest) 15:55:19 <|amethyst> I also made the hd-per-weight efficiency depend on spell power 15:55:32 -!- Ragdoll has quit [Quit: goodnight] 15:55:53 <|amethyst> (and now it has a range, which also depends on spell power) 15:56:36 |amethyst: how do you create large abominations vs. small ones then? 15:57:23 <|amethyst> G-Flex: 6+ HD and 2+ corpses => small; 11+ HD and 3+ corpses => large ... crawling corpses can also upgrade small abominations to large 15:57:39 oh okay, that last part is the important one I guess 15:57:59 those changes sound both fun and more user-friendly than the current situation, so I hope it works well! 15:59:52 <|amethyst> (Large abominations are not upgraded. This means if you want max-HD large aboms you still have to pile; but probably most people would prefer twice as many medium-HD large abominations, since damage doesn't scale with HD) 16:01:19 <|amethyst> Probably it's too message-spammy right now, since on casting you get a message for every pile of corpses, and then you get a message each time they merge 16:04:06 -!- Wop has joined ##crawl-dev 16:11:35 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 16:18:45