00:02:05 why don't all three stairs show up in my vault when I designate them to show up? 00:02:29 Does Nausea cause stat drain? I don't know if it's supposed to 00:03:55 heteroy: did you make sure to use } ] and )? 00:04:06 you can't use 3 }, for example. 00:04:23 ( { and [, but yes 00:04:23 also, > is for escape hatches (you can have as many of those as you want) 00:04:41 i want everyone to enter in the same room 00:04:54 are you placing the vault on d:1? 00:04:58 Moose the Thaumaturge (L10 DEIE) ASSERT(!you.turn_is_over) in 'state.cc' at line 173 failed on turn 12248. (D:9) 00:04:59 d:2 00:05:24 dunno then. can you upload it to pastebin? 00:05:46 further complicated by using serial vaults 00:06:06 try parallel or USB 00:06:19 :/ 00:07:04 http://pastebin.com/aj3vXkyy 00:07:10 thanks, looking at it now 00:07:21 the bottom two make up the level entries 00:07:55 neither of those are guaranteed to be placed as part of the serial vault 00:08:16 they seem to generate as a seperate serial 00:08:23 but on the same level 00:09:07 oh yeah, just noticed 00:09:46 i'm going to make a couple edits and see if it works, give me a few mins 00:10:16 oh it might be only doing one serial or the other. 00:12:31 it's strangely inconsistent 00:16:09 if you're ok with only having one entry map, there's a very easy way I know of to solve this 00:16:22 I guess that would be okay 00:17:45 something like this: http://pastebin.com/0wAtu2w2 00:19:20 thank you. did you mix up where it's supposed to be coubt=1/count=2? 00:20:31 oh wait... i see what happened 00:20:35 no, that thing I pasted there will place the three stair map on d:2, and then try to place two maps tagged "swampy" 00:20:45 you're going to want to do this with one serial vault anyway, not two 00:23:04 you can do this: 00:23:04 inspector071 the Magician (L11 DsVM) ASSERT(!you.turn_is_over) in 'state.cc' at line 173 failed on turn 9008. (D:8) 00:23:12 hook("post_place", function() 00:23:12 dgn.place_maps{tag="swampy", count=2} 00:23:12 dgn.place_maps{tag="swampyent", count=1} 00:23:12 end) 00:23:21 but that won't guarantee the 3 stairs vault 00:24:16 I don't understand why not if it's supposed to be pulling 1 from "swampyent" and all it has is a 3 stairs vault 00:24:52 because it can try to place a vault and fail 00:31:18 what I know mostly comes from experimenting with serial vaults myself though, there are other people who can tell you exactly what's going on. But I _think_ your options are to either do it the way I put on pastebin, or just allow that sometimes you won't get one of the entries 00:36:59 heteroy: on further testing, this seems to work quite well: http://pastebin.com/NB7aasfu 00:39:54 (from experimenting, it's pretty hard to get it to fail to place one of those stair vaults, unless i make them extremely big) 00:39:59 wow thanks. i wonder how often it works and how often the level is built without desinated vaults. 00:40:51 I was trying to make some big regular non-entry serial vaults and they would make the generator hang and rarely be placed... 00:41:40 yeah, keepig them small is a good idea 00:41:49 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 00:42:00 do you build crawl from source? if you do, you might want to enable debug mode (make debug) 00:42:15 you'll get a _ton_ of spam and the game will be unplayable, but it tells you if stuff gets rejected 00:42:41 no i was just dling the precompiled version 00:47:13 well, the version i put there seems to work often enough that it's not worth worrying about. one weird thing is, sometimes it puts two stairs instead of 3. no idea why, sorry 00:47:31 yeah that was especially wierd to me 00:47:42 no worries. thanks for the 00:47:45 help 00:49:31 -!- RichardHawk has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:39 no problem. sorry for coming up with like 5 different solutions, my way of solving problems sometimes involves blindly stumbling around until something works 00:52:28 it seems like everything that has to do with making content for this game requires a ton of trial and error 00:54:52 making normal vaults isn't too hard. serial vaults are trickier 00:57:26 Does sickness still exist in Trunk btw? 00:57:33 Like, from various monster attacks? 00:58:05 yes 00:58:23 only sickness from eating contaminated chunks was changed into nausea 00:58:55 Okay 01:03:44 I just realized that sickness is somewhat dangerous if you have a fast metabolism or cast a lot 01:03:47 because you can't eat at all 01:04:17 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:05:04 you mean nausea :P 01:05:10 and you can eat at starving 01:05:57 still, it means potentially becoming starving in the middle of a fight if you don't rest it off somewhere 01:07:12 Yeah X3 01:07:17 So it doesn't let you die 01:07:39 Also it reverses the idea of eating contaminated chunks at very hungry and clean at hungry 01:08:00 Because if you get nauseous while eating at very hungry you'll be at very hungry/near starving before you get rid of it 01:19:59 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:23:28 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:53:58 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 01:58:14 elliptic: Many thanks for the blog comments 02:08:05 I'm thinking of posting a comment (mainly to try to help dispel "dpeg vs the world" thing) but I haven't thought of anything yet that wouldn't be incendiary :) 02:13:25 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:20:53 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 02:22:22 um, so, some more mantis weirdness. still have updater status, except when i view item 4849 (and only that item, as far as I can tell). also, that one found its way to my email inbox for some reason, and i can't find that one on the normal listings 02:23:09 and by "only that item" i mean i have developer status when viewing it, and updater status on every other page. this part at least is consistent 02:26:14 I noticed when I changed your status, that it didn't change "evilmike (updater)" in the notes you had posted (but it did change in the Manage panel). I assumed there was some sort of delay. 02:26:39 I could try to poke around a bit later, but I'm not sure if I'll find anything dpeg didn't already try. Napkin's in transit from Poland, isn't he? 02:27:00 not sure 02:29:25 deleting cookies didn't help either, also tried using a different browser, so I doubt it's on my end 02:29:40 the thing with 4849 is the weirdest part 02:46:17 anyway to make an inanimate gold statue? 02:47:55 yeah. you can rename features and give them different tiles and colours and stuff. i'll make an example if you want 02:51:16 evilmike is suspiciously helpful for being evil.. oh well, there's probably some nefarious ulterior motive to that 02:51:28 some have theorized that mikee is actually the evil one 02:51:46 hmm. which one of you has the goatee? 02:52:07 i'm currently beardless 02:52:40 considering recent events it is appropriate to shave, yes 02:54:58 evilmike's plan is to build up a solid reputation founded on years of helpfulness 02:55:07 and then he is going to start blatantly lying to people, and they will believe him 02:55:41 there are people on SA convinced that moon trolls exist. not my doing though 02:55:47 i wonder who came up with moon trolls. hmmmmm 02:55:59 must've been a non-evil person 02:56:21 heteroy: http://pastebin.com/AkES5jdQ 02:56:49 man these blog posts are so bad 02:56:57 i can't believe there are almost 100 of them 02:57:08 is there a place to find the woo thanks 02:57:08 (blog comments i mean) 02:57:12 oy 02:57:18 yeah at this point everything that can be said has been said, more comments just make it go in circles 02:57:21 forgot i had a half typed message 02:57:22 i'm not going to post there 02:57:26 heh 02:58:49 I'm being careful to restrain myself from replying to specific comments 02:59:09 I'm unlikely to say anything beyond what I have already 02:59:18 Yeah, I was thinking of not really addressing the flamers, but clarifying some of the stuff for those others who happen to read throguh the mess.. 02:59:58 elliptic probably said it all already though. 03:00:35 I think the best action would be to find some cool new thing to make a blog post about and distract the angry mob a little 03:01:31 claim to have buffed something people like 03:01:39 I've been playing an Ely summoner, and was thinking of writing a bit about that. I didn't think of taking screenshots while playing, I was thinking of figuring out the ttyrec business. 03:02:08 not sure if "Ely summoner" qualifies as cool though ^_^ 03:02:37 i think it's cool 03:03:24 !messages 03:03:24 (1/1) dpeg said (7h 12m 22s ago): There is this idea to autoinscrible loot from portal vaults like so: white potion {ossuary}. Can we do this with lua? (Not sure whether lua or additional des syntax code is better for this.) 03:03:30 Hi due! 03:04:04 mikee_: are you suggesting lying about buffing things 03:04:29 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:04:50 !tell dpeg I don't think it can be done with Lua, but we can add additional des syntax code for it somewhere. It would need a bit of C++ work, but not too much. 03:04:50 due: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 03:05:23 mikee_: currently people don't like anything except MD though 03:05:29 so this is hard 03:06:01 they used to like tornado 03:06:26 elliptic: "this too shall pass" 03:06:26 possible headline: Tornado Damage Buffed Against Orc Priests 03:06:46 ooh, well, we have a branch with a tornado buff in it already! 03:07:08 we could just merge it into master... ;) 03:07:12 I still think you need to expedite HE removal so you can point to comments and say "see, we listen to our players." 03:07:36 evilmike, well a more realistic suggestion would be to exaggerate a buff =P 03:07:51 Fyren: I disagree 03:07:52 so. recent chei buff (new ability) 03:08:00 that's a good choice too 03:08:04 Fyren: we do not actually do things just because players have yelled loud enoguh 03:08:13 That's the joke. 03:08:28 evilmike: the new ability is apparently a bit rough at the moment 03:08:45 chei changes in general could be a good blog entry though 03:08:59 i've been spectating st_, yeah 03:09:04 Yeah, a Chei post would be nice. 03:09:55 due: People sarcastically suggested HE be removed to be consistent or suggested HE should have been removed instead going by their understanding (or lack thereof) of MD reasoning. 03:10:02 The joke being to remove HE to piss them off more. 03:10:17 And then telling them you did what they wanted. 03:10:30 we could do s/Ke/Te/ to distract people 03:10:30 And this all got even funnier with an explanation, I'm sure. 03:11:04 elliptic: I agree 03:11:11 Te? 03:11:16 Tengu. 03:11:23 Tenguuuu! 03:11:39 hmm. 03:11:44 whatever :D 03:12:05 "Kenku" is directly from D&D. 03:13:28 due, autoinscribing loot from portal vaults.. um.. I'm not sure how that'd work with stacking? 03:13:53 i think people only want that for unstackable stuff 03:14:01 eg, equipment/weapons/jewellery 03:14:24 dunno why else you'd want that kind of inscription 03:15:13 Zaba: how do inscribes work for standard stacking? 03:15:31 I'm not really sure why you would want the inscription for anything, really 03:15:55 if you inscribe a potion, then pick up another of its kind, you have 2 inscribed potions 03:16:02 I think 03:16:12 (well duh, that makes sense) 03:16:18 that's how tried by monster and such work 03:16:23 I'm slow >_> 03:18:20 Uninscribed things go into the first inscribed stack in your inventory. 03:18:31 The same item with different inscriptions stay separate. 03:19:26 i have done some manual inscriptions with portal loot but i admittedly was doing spoilery things 03:35:19 i wish i could designate the colour/name of items in a vault 03:37:34 why would that ever be a good idea? 03:38:19 it's a themed vault, the item name/colour could be set to fit a theme 03:39:13 it would be an interface kludge 03:39:32 you can give randbooks names. I think that's the only case where that's possible 03:39:51 I can only think of two cases where that's used 03:40:32 (also the only places where that sort of thing is justified) 03:55:00 I hate miscoloured items, in console at least. 03:56:13 I once found an item that was coloured black (somehow) 03:56:34 Robes from wights that look like cloaks are my nemesis :D 03:56:41 wraiths? 03:56:45 something like that. 04:03:38 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Like it? Visit #hydrairc on EFNet] 04:14:05 03evilmike * r5ceb0ce87531 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/ (branches/vaults.des variable/mini_monsters.des): Fix Lemuel's jelly drop vaults. (uh oh) 04:14:05 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 04:21:55 evilmike: you bastard! :p 04:21:55 kilobyte: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 04:22:42 haha 04:24:35 hey guys 04:24:35 Napkin: You have 4 messages. Use !messages to read them. 04:24:52 Hi Marc! :) 04:24:59 Eino :) 04:25:02 How's it going? 04:25:14 did evilmike's status get fixed yet? 04:25:24 I was having some *really* weird issues earlier 04:25:39 i couldn't take a look yet 04:25:47 was talking about it about 2 hours ago 04:26:46 ah, someone added you as "updater" to the dcss project previously in a non default way 04:27:21 which was overriding the system-wide setting of "developer" 04:27:25 try again now, evilmike 04:27:41 works, thanks 04:28:08 what about this item: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4849 ? 04:28:18 I cant see it on the main listing, and it randomly found its way to my email 04:29:13 the guy filed it on the wrong project ("Mantis") 04:29:34 select "move issue", evilmike 04:30:00 oh, didn't see that. thanks 04:31:53 ahhhh 04:35:57 no problem, quite difficult to see if you're not used to it 04:36:13 after you move the issue, could you please update the version/branch information, evilmike? 04:36:25 otherwise it'll not show up properly in the stats 04:39:37 oh, sure. updated 04:39:54 I picked 0.10, benraven didn't really suggest whether it was trunk or stable 04:50:56 webtiles are 50/50 04:51:12 the server.py is from trunk, the game itself is 0.9 04:51:29 so 0.10 is correct :) thanks! 04:54:17 Request for new floor tiles (pandemonium, dis, tartarus), and wall tiles (pandemonium) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4853) by evilmike 04:55:24 napking <3 04:56:00 due! :) 04:57:19 goddamn crypt is annoyoig 05:00:22 theres a lot of high ac stuff there, fighting stuff with a quickblade (even a +9 one) tends to be painful 05:00:53 yes 05:00:54 i know 05:01:00 I don't go there if I worship Trog, you don't get piety. 05:01:07 I want the loooot 05:01:32 dont you still get piety from skele warriors? 05:02:05 @??skeletal warriors 05:02:05 unknown monster: "skeletal warriors" 05:02:07 yeah 05:02:09 @??skeletal warrior 05:02:09 skeletal warrior (10z) | Speed: 10 | HD: 10 | Health: 54-76 | AC/EV: 15/10 | Damage: 25 | Flags: 07undead, evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(93), 02cold, 03poison, 12drown, 04rot+++, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | XP: 813 | Sp: animate dead. 05:02:14 and vampires 05:02:20 and necrophage corpsees 05:02:26 oh, heh :) 05:02:33 not a huge amount of piety 05:02:44 Liches? :D 05:03:15 and nceromances! 05:03:20 ghallberg: just boris so far 05:03:22 motherfucking boris 05:04:21 I was of the opinion that skeletal warriors' Animate Dead wasn't a spell but an intrinsic ability, but that lost out I suppose. (small thing anyway) 05:06:38 HEY COOL, antimagic is awesome on liches :) 05:07:17 antimagic is a great brand. Also, it's antimagic, not antispellcaster. Pretty much anything magical is affected 05:07:26 I don't even really need to berserk normal liches 05:08:25 hey, Napkin, did i ever report that i have to press l or r twice to get the menu on CDO? on CAO it works flawlessly. w and q also just work on CDO. 05:08:51 s/the menu/the entry fields that those keys are supposed to trigger 05:09:01 should I have an orange name on the tavern now? 05:12:37 yay tedium joy 05:14:03 yeah, we've been hunting that bug without any success yet - we can't even reproduce it properly 05:14:05 bhaak: 05:14:21 apart from the keymappings missing on CAO, of course 05:14:25 Napkin: unicode stuff? 05:14:28 no idea 05:15:54 i bet it's the same bug, that once cause a black screen when connecting and only showing the menu after a key 05:15:54 *caused 05:15:55 remember that one, due? 05:15:55 i think you and me did some changes to hunt that down 05:16:09 oh, maybe not you - well, i don't know anymore 05:16:18 too long ago 05:16:45 hm 05:16:49 not me, I doin't think 05:20:12 -!- Ragdoll has joined ##crawl-dev 05:20:19 alright, so, broken you say 05:20:22 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:04 atleast thats a fair assumption to make 05:22:04 testing it right now, in debug mode 05:22:04 Ragdoll, what was it 05:22:04 alright, first problem: the weight is way too damn high 05:22:04 can you relink? 05:22:04 http://pastebin.com/cMweaVgC 05:22:04 yes, weight is too high 05:22:04 it's probably easier if you ignore weight and use PLACE: D:2 (this will practically guarantee it on d:2) 05:22:13 are you using debug mode? 05:22:13 CHANCE: 100% is also good 05:22:16 Weight is a little too high 05:22:18 ah. i wanted to eb extra sure i got it. thats all 05:22:21 9,999,999 05:22:32 it was the perfect plan 05:22:45 Ragdoll, the orc with the chaos spear is horribly dangerous 05:22:46 Ragdoll: if you're using debug mode, &L is good too 05:22:53 whereas the other two are moderately trivial 05:23:21 Ragdoll: with the weight issue fixed, the rest seems to work 05:23:43 no 05:23:44 excellent. trying to place things now in a des file 05:23:51 you need to l_uniq it 05:24:04 er, actually, just uniq_yiuf 05:24:10 there should be instructions in the unique.des file on exactly how to do it 05:24:14 I think purgy is a good example 05:24:27 my advice, from when I was tinkering with vaults 05:24:32 Ragdoll: also, the second MONS line is unused 05:24:36 get an existing vault from a trunk .rar 05:24:40 open it 05:24:42 then edit it 05:24:45 you need a 2 somewhere in that vault if you want the orc to be placed 05:25:14 (Otherwise there is a chance of placing a secondary vault for a unique -- without that unique in it. This is fine for transparent single-square vaults, but not Yiuf's.) 05:25:39 yeah, the original vault should get uniq_yiuf 05:25:42 and the new one 05:26:16 do i want a orc to be placed though 05:26:36 And the depth needs to be the same as the currnet Yiuf one. 05:28:15 yes, true. im still attempting to test this ingame though. didnt think of just vault placing it with wizard mode 05:28:15 one problem with the orc is it might be about as strong as yiuf himself (a bit weaker, I suppose) 05:28:15 chaos is dangerous, though 05:28:15 which orc? 05:28:15 oh, that 05:28:15 the orc you define in the MONS line 05:28:15 sorry about that, you can ignore that. it was reference for branding 05:28:24 last i checked yiuf does not have orc buddies 05:28:32 Orc buddies are a bit out of place. 05:28:36 gnoll buddies are fine, though. 05:28:41 Napkin: interesting, under cygwin, I see that it does it too, but i see also that it refreshes the screen. maybe a ctrl bit stuck somewhere? 05:28:44 also, I think you can just use "MONS: orc ; club ego:chaos | dagger ego:chaos | spear ego:chaos" for this kind of thing - no need to have 3 orcs 05:29:20 alright. ingame i am unable to find the vault with &L 05:29:33 what I like to do is name vaults I'm testing L 05:29:41 then I just need to hit &L and L again 05:29:50 where do i place the vault, just to be sure? 05:29:58 in the folder that is 05:29:58 please figure it out, bhaak :D 05:30:04 evilmike: Yeah, you should be orangified there, but I suppose someone needs to flick another swtich on the forum side. I'll check.. 05:30:08 i can't reproduce it though, unfortunately 05:30:15 Ragdoll: just stick it in any des file 05:30:19 Napkin: pff :-) 05:30:23 Ragdoll: don't create a new des file though, that doesn't seem to work 05:30:27 neither putty nor gnometerminal show that behaviour here 05:30:55 why doesn't creating a new des file work? 05:31:08 for some reason the game won't recognise it. need to recompile or something 05:31:13 no. 05:31:13 really? 05:31:17 no, it shouldn't 05:31:19 should just work 05:31:19 I've had this problem before 05:31:21 Hmm, I possibly don't have admin rights in the Tavern. 05:31:36 was it a new .des file or a new client .lua file? 05:31:45 I was trying to add a new sprint map 05:31:52 probably not, Keskitalo 05:31:55 map wouldn't show up in the menu - also wasn't able to find it with &L 05:32:02 alright, sweet, it works now 05:32:08 it was requested to keep permissions separately 05:32:09 Hm 05:32:19 I'm going to test this again - see if I can reproduce it 05:32:20 just tested, it picks up a new des file with no external intervention 05:32:27 Napkin: make sure not to give me forum rights,I will go ban people ;) 05:32:34 hehe 05:32:41 how are the mods doing their jobs? 05:32:54 no, I am just despotic like that! 05:32:56 you know me :0 05:32:58 *:) 05:33:02 Zaba: hm, ok. I guess whatever I was getting was some other issue 05:33:05 hehehe 05:34:46 !vault dat/des/builder/uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage 05:34:47 Couldn't understand /des/builder/uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage 05:34:57 !vault /des/builder/uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage 05:34:58 Couldn't understand /des/builder/uniq_crazy_yiuf_cottage 05:35:05 but but 05:35:18 !source dat/des/builder/uniques.des 05:35:21 Lines pasted to http://paste.scsys.co.uk/156277 05:35:24 good enough :P 05:35:25 oh right. 05:36:22 add uniq_yiuf to your vaults tags. That will also get added to the original yiuf vault, to make sure only one of them ever gets placed in a game 05:37:21 evilmike: I just did your evil halls map 05:37:31 nice 05:37:39 will do. 05:37:42 that's part of a set of 5. there's still a 6th I want to make (yred) 05:37:46 it was pretty easy at XL5 05:37:48 er 05:37:48 27 05:38:07 yeah, the monster set is highly based on depth, so the d:19 set should be easy at that point 05:38:22 lots of deep elf annihilators 05:38:40 did you get a unique? you can get nikola or frederick I think 05:38:44 yeah 05:38:46 nikola 05:38:52 haste+stab :) 05:39:21 hmmm 05:39:32 the fire room there is just a practical joke 05:39:49 you could use it as a weapon, possibly. 05:41:13 -!- jle_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:41:53 so, regarding orange name on tavern, an admin needs to do that right? That means either napkin or danr 05:44:08 hmm, what "orange name"? 05:45:48 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 05:45:49 devteam members (at least ones that post there) get orange names on the tavern 05:46:15 ah, that's something danr did 05:46:22 it would be a bit useful; I just made a post officially asking for new tiles for pan/dis/tar 05:46:28 could you send him an updated list? 05:46:43 I could send danr a message, sure. he hasn't been around for a while though 05:47:07 send it to me then (napkin@develz.org) 05:47:14 i'll post it in the moderation board 05:47:23 oh actually, he still visits (last visit Friday, 28th October 2011, 21:29) 05:47:26 so I'll message him 05:47:31 roger :) 05:50:33 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:04 Hmm, is WebTiles pretty much It Just Works for players, now? 05:56:22 No need to have a specific browser version or fiddle with security settings? 05:56:57 Or specific browser? 05:57:05 -!- heteroy has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.23/20110920075126]] 05:57:06 often both 05:58:16 ??webtiles 05:58:16 webtiles[1/3]: Play with tiles on cdo: http://tiles.crawl.develz.org. Use Chrome 4+, Firefox 6+ or Safari 5 for easiest access. Also works in Firefox 4/5 and Opera 11, but you have to change the browser's settings. 06:00:20 Ah, ok, that hasn't changed. Thanks! 06:04:11 webtiles seems to work really well for most people. People sometimes complain about latency though 06:05:08 usually such folks are on the wrong side of the pond 06:05:14 I know there was someone interested in setting up an american server, can't remember who though 06:06:32 with local tiles hardly ever working, though, it is tempting to have local webtiles 06:06:51 what does make WEBTILES=y do locally? 06:07:52 you'd need to install a bunch of things and patch python-tornado, but it mostly works 06:08:14 as in: works but doesn't hide some parts that make sense only on a server 06:09:56 with such huge ping times one gets over the loopback interface, though, the reason webtiles uses websockets no longer applies, though 06:10:49 so it would be doable to drop all python and tornado stuff, serving http either directly from Crawl or from a tiny helper process 06:11:23 and it would work with any browser with Canvas (ie, any other than Dillo, Amaya or IE <=8) 06:13:49 It's an interesting idea. Webitles is almost ahead of local tiles in terms of features, by the sounds of it 06:14:06 I think the major thing it still lacks is mouse support 06:14:47 Duvessa don't go berserk when Dowan is killed (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4854) by Scalding Steam 06:18:15 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:00 * due yawns 06:21:50 how do i make the chance of a vault appearing higher 06:21:54 or, well, guaranteed= 06:22:10 CHANCE: 100% usually works. or you could use PLACE: wherever 06:23:52 chance�100% didnt work, oddly enough 06:24:19 Keskitalo: which browser did you try? and did you have to change settings? 06:24:30 Ragdoll: try using PLACE 06:25:52 did. that worked! 06:29:47 -!- stabwound has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 06:32:23 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:57 evilmike� http://pastebin.com/LBgftXQZ 06:34:05 nice +- 06:34:18