00:01:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1183-g99ff13c (32) 00:03:14 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1183-g99ff13c (32) 00:18:30 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1183-g99ff13c 00:25:23 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 00:27:12 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 00:29:11 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:42:48 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 00:52:15 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 00:52:58 -!- greatzebu has quit [Quit: greatzebu] 00:57:11 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 01:09:22 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 01:10:00 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 01:14:05 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:06:50 -!- mikee_ has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 02:07:58 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:46:20 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:20:01 now i can train evocations for no discernable reason again 04:20:16 after just going past an ash altar and picking up that animate skeleton book 04:23:02 -!- Mottie has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:00:04 OSX builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.10-a0-1160-g5c90495 05:02:50 -!- ZorbaBeta has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:02:57 Melee strikes cause bleeding with gloves put on (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4704) by hayenne 05:03:01 -!- ZorbaBeta has joined ##crawl-dev 05:10:43 morning! 05:14:01 Is current version of master safe to have all games moved too? 05:36:01 -!- alefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:07 hi 05:46:19 -!- Torokasi has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:08 -!- rejuxst has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:57 Napkin: there's the food disaster ("reform"), but code-wise, all should be ok 06:40:58 hehe 06:40:58 including many skill bugs fixed 06:40:58 there are like.. 30 versions installed right now.. could use some cleanup :) 06:44:01 I got some more ideas for a holy pan level. A temple of zin with a silver prison in the middle (3x3) guarded by a special angel. You kill it, and the prison falls, releasing a pan lord (just the normal kind). Which will be grateful, but will of course try to kill you anyway 07:08:53 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:10:45 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:27 -!- rejuxst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:33:14 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:35:04 -!- evilmike has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:42:03 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 08:44:15 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 09:02:40 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:00 Hi 09:12:31 -!- capablanca has joined ##crawl-dev 09:12:36 -!- mikee_ has quit [Disconnected by services] 09:12:37 -!- capablanca is now known as mikee_ 09:31:27 not much going on, eh? Later 09:31:30 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 09:31:34 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:31:51 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:42 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:55:23 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:55:59 kilobyte: you around, by chance? 09:57:24 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:03:12 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:05:20 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:15:22 -!- rejuxst has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:54 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:53 -!- Pacra has quit [Client Quit] 11:01:36 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:38 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:58:13 -!- Mottie has joined ##crawl-dev 12:06:36 -!- mikee_ has quit [Quit: Try HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <-] 12:09:48 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 12:11:26 Any comments on the slaying vs to_dam issue? 12:12:27 having slaying and to-damage work differently is really confusing and unintuitive 12:12:43 hmm, but if they don't, why have weapons of slaying at all? 12:13:07 SamB: did you get my email? 12:13:42 seems I did 12:13:48 I didn't know that until now, of course 12:14:08 * SamB waits for gmail to finish loading or something 12:15:34 dpeg: what's with the direct mailing? 12:15:53 isn't that kinda painful? 12:15:59 I don't know if everyone (for example you) is one the c-r-d list. 12:16:06 I am, actually 12:16:21 And if I do it via wiki or irc, there's always someone left out. 12:16:34 But couldn't someone set up a list and manually add everyone, whether they like it or not? 12:16:41 Since I thought the weapon issue might be uncontroversial, I chose the mail. 12:17:04 I'm 99% sure mailman allows that, though perhaps not in sf.net's configuration 12:17:36 c-r-d is better, because many more read it, yes 12:18:03 I'ma going to have to add a filter just for you 12:19:42 perhaps we should just call the normal damage enchantment on weapons Dam+ in verbose mode? 12:19:59 That is, when you actually examine the thing 12:22:40 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:23:05 hm, perhaps 12:23:12 always a little confusion about that 12:23:54 does the other chanment act like Acc+? 12:24:26 weapon accuracy pluses work the same as slaying accuracy i believe, yeah 12:32:34 -!- rejuxst has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:35:38 -!- valrus has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 12:36:14 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 12:44:56 MarvinPA: good to know -- should we treat them the same then? 12:50:46 dpeg: I proposed displaying them as Acc+ in the description screen 12:52:16 yes 12:53:34 obviously this wouldn't do for the inventory line or the status area ;-) 12:54:06 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:28 SamB: it is an old (and imo good) proposel to rename scrolls or EW I and II to "increase accuracy/damage" but we always got stuck with EW III :) 12:56:41 Enhance Weapon Thoroughly 12:57:18 at least the descriptions for those tell you what they do, though 12:57:59 That was the one way I knew I could check which plus was which in-game 12:59:10 so it really wouldn't be helpful without also providing a clue on the weapons' description screens :-) 13:01:45 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:02:56 03SamB 07SamB/issue-3899 * r2d79c92c1be5 10/crawl-ref/debian/rules: Build with debugging, and with V=y so I can see what's going on. 13:03:21 this is just a branch where I was trying to reproduce issue-3899 13:03:31 don't really bother paying any attention 13:03:40 it didn't really work anyway 13:04:17 scroll of increase accuracy+damage ???? 13:04:29 st_: or that 13:04:42 but shouldn't "weapon" be in there somewhere? 13:08:49 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:50 Altar to Okawaru and associated metal walls use the wall of green crystal tile (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4705) by smock 13:21:19 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:17 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:24:17 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 13:28:53 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:30:06 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:06 -!- jlewis has quit [Changing host] 13:30:06 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:37 -!- edlothiol has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 13:37:26 -!- greatzebu has joined ##crawl-dev 13:59:12 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:03 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 14:07:39 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:24:26 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:35:01 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 14:44:11 03N78291 * rbec3f7584b80 10/crawl-ref/source/ (9 files): Add Death's Door and Regeneration as monster spells; give both to Nergalle. 14:44:12 03GreatZebu * r949c6d88a68f 10/crawl-ref/source/fight.cc: Add custom crit messages for skeletons 14:44:12 03GreatZebu * r5f9885df8fca 10/crawl-ref/source/player-act.cc: Fix berserk hunger check 14:55:25 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:23 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 15:32:07 03dolorous * rb42df44d5689 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Add formatting fixes. 15:32:17 03dolorous * rfe4b32573648 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Use simple_monster_message() where appropriate. 15:36:24 semsete (L13 CeHu) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1071 failed. (Lab) 15:37:20 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 15:39:37 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:41:05 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:25 hi 15:43:52 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:46:48 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:48 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:48:08 03galehar * r9a5683f9dfd4 10/crawl-ref/source/ (initfile.cc wiz-fsim.cc): Fsim: don't change stats and xl if the option isn't set. 15:48:08 03galehar * r4f23510a2b6a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/abyss.des: Greatly increase the chance for an abyssal rune vault. 15:48:08 03galehar * r30b7557045f7 10/crawl-ref/source/artefact.cc: Fix evocations being trainable with some randart books (#4693). 15:54:15 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:02:44 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 16:10:07 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:11:27 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:13:10 -!- Brannock has joined ##crawl-dev 16:13:40 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 16:20:17 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:59 Glow idea: Perhaps the use of glowing effects, like Haste, could incur its entire contamination penalty at the onset of the effect, and simply prevent dissipation while active 17:00:27 This'd allow there to be a y/n prompt if the player tries to use something that'd put him or her into mutagenic levels 17:04:57 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:09:59 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:21:03 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 17:22:28 oblong (L27 NaWz) ASSERT(feat_is_solid(feat)) in 'beam.cc' at line 1114 failed. (Coc:7) 17:23:23 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 17:25:10 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:25:44 -!- Pingas has quit [Client Quit] 17:27:17 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 17:30:07 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:38:01 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:38 Zaba: are layout vaults any special compared to regular ones? There's "TILE: b = something" in layout_twisted_cavern, and it fails to get cleared when a vault gets placed. 17:40:11 I guess this is likely to happen when overwriting any vaults, though 17:46:59 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:54:30 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:02 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:55:22 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:56:05 -!- Pingas_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:23 -!- Pingas_ has quit [Client Quit] 17:57:04 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:57:24 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:34 -!- Pingas has quit [Client Quit] 17:57:43 -!- Pingas has joined ##crawl-dev 17:58:09 03kilobyte * rc269afc1d768 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: Set rather than increase penance on excommunication. 17:58:19 03kilobyte * r970ddb311acd 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Fix a crash in a game after a tutorial (kittel) 17:58:19 03kilobyte * r086c528e1aee 10/crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc: Spam the player if training a magic skill under Trog. 18:20:08 03dolorous * r28e2052dd017 10/crawl-ref/source/godconduct.cc: Add wording fix. 18:52:38 Scroll of Identify can be used on Stone of Earth Elementals (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4706) by SouthernSpade 19:05:51 -!- greatzebu has quit [Quit: greatzebu] 19:12:18 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:13:12 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:14:54 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 19:18:21 -!- PlasticMars has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:43 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:29:27 -!- Pacra has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep] 19:40:48 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 19:52:14 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:58:10 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 20:07:09 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:53 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:11:53 -!- bmh has quit [Changing host] 20:11:53 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:01 evening 20:12:11 03SamB * r69536f320e56 10/crawl-ref/source/Makefile: Fix PCH dependencies and ccache interaction. 20:14:13 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:23:53 SamB: isn't CCACHE_SLOPPINESS = time_macros a no-op unless __DATE__ or __TIME__ are actually used? 20:24:29 kilobyte: With regards to your particle deposition algorithm for terrain generation -- did I ever suggest using a levy flight to guide the particle? 20:26:17 kilobyte: not, it seems, with precompiled headers 20:26:39 it doesn't know how to tell if they use __TIME__/__DATE__ or not 20:27:53 kilobyte: anyway, that's what was suggested in the "precompiled headers" section of ccache(1), so... 20:30:36 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:27 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:32:44 bmh: I'm not sure what you're talking about -- I don't use any "particle deposition" anywhere in map generation 20:33:00 kilobyte: In one of your experiments. Place a particle and roll it down hill. 20:33:56 ah, that's just what that nolithius guy does. Wouldn't help, it's just a fancy version of slightly noisy distance from borders. 20:34:13 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34:31 that whole step could be tossed away, there's enough randomness in perlin itself 20:36:12 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 20:36:45 kilobyte: fun with perlin noise: http://i.imgur.com/IPC3A.png 20:42:31 SVG has perlin built into the format, its uses can be fun: http://angband.pl/tmp/aura.svg 20:42:54 oh. whoa. Is it consistent across implementations? 20:43:38 yeah... all except MSIE which doesn't do SVG 20:44:06 seems to be even hash-compatible 20:44:24 Oh. That's nice. 20:45:56 it has a Z dimension, slowly increasing it could produce a nice animation 20:50:10 uhm no, it breaks in Chrome 20:53:02 I notice a patch I made that updates a few abyss vaults was added yesterday, but another (very similar) one I made for a crypt vault is still on mantis. Is there anyone I should bug about that? I don't care how long it sits on mantis btw, I just want to make sure it isn't unnoticed 20:53:25 In what way does it break in Chrome? 20:53:28 oh i was going to push that one actually 20:53:32 I made it mostly to make it prettier in tiles (new crypt tiles make some of the old ones I defined there a bit ugly) and also because profane servitor would fit with the yred theme 20:53:37 then i got sidetracked, thanks for the reminder :P 20:53:40 np 20:53:55 speaking of abyss vaults, could these either be accepted or rejected: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4626 20:54:15 I asked dpeg a few days ago about new vaults, he told me he'd get around to them but he's busy now and it would be a while 20:54:56 Aerdan: when thresholding, it somehow includes some areas that have zero or near-zero values 20:55:53 Okay. Could you rephrase that in visual terms so I know whether what I'm looking at is what it ought to look like, please? (I don't have Fx installed on my laptop, nor am I going to.) 20:56:23 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:56:43 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:56:57 Aerdan: seems any other SVG implementation agrees with Firefox, even if they wildly disagree about font mapping, line thickness or backgrounds 20:57:03 s/agrees/agree/ 20:58:15 * Aerdan switches to desktop, since at least there he has a relevant VM. 20:59:04 …Huh. It works fine in beta, assuming the figure's supposed to turn up in the bottom four but not the topright one. 20:59:17 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 20:59:21 ((latest beta, that is. I /think/ my laptop's running stable.)) 21:00:11 nope, just a stale copy of beta. 21:00:12 03evilmike * rdea44a6899e3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/crypt.des: Update evilmike_haunted_forest crypt ending. 21:01:07 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 21:01:45 * Aerdan cross-references with inkscape. 21:01:54 kilobyte: Would you mind filing a bug on crbug.com? 21:03:10 Aerdan: http://angband.pl/tmp/aura/ 21:03:59 Yeah. I could file a bug with that, but you're the one who turned it up. ;) 21:05:20 Who got it right? 21:05:27 mroovka the Grappler (L12 KeWn) ASSERT(prog >= 0) in 'skills2.cc' at line 152 failed on turn 17348. (Lair:4) 21:05:37 bmh: Everybody except Chrome & IE8. 21:05:46 ((Yes. IE8 supports SVG these days. /Terribly/, though.)) 21:06:01 mroovka the Grappler (L12 KeWn) ASSERT(prog >= 0) in 'skills2.cc' at line 152 failed on turn 17348. (Lair:4) 21:06:14 I'm happy that I'll never need to support IE6 ever again. 21:07:07 Aerdan: that site requires sign-up, and wants a phone number just to register :p 21:07:33 You big baby. Fine, I'll file it. 21:07:46 Just as soon as Chrome stops misbehaving, that is. 21:07:52 heh :p 21:07:55 kilobyte: just give them my phone number. 21:07:55 -!- jeanjacques has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:08:40 actually, I still have a couple of temporary SIM cards that were not used with Google before, might be even not expired yet 21:09:50 including a Bosnian one, should work over international roaming well enough for a SMS :p 21:11:29 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=99610 ← And here you go. 21:20:31 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:25:17 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 21:31:17 -!- alefury has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:31:48 -!- Twilight13 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:48 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:34:10 03MarvinPA * r595a2e93afdb 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/gods.txt: Add more details for Vehumet to the ^! religion screen 21:40:12 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:46:21 -!- jeanjacques has joined ##crawl-dev 22:03:15 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:04:45 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 22:04:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:17 -!- greatzebu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:47 -!- Pingas has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:17:33 -!- Twinge_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:20:28 -!- PlasticMars has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:20:35 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:28:20 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 22:59:05 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:59 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:05:32 -!- Brannock has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 23:06:47 -!- mikee_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:12:46 03dolorous * ref37778818f7 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/gods.txt: Tweak wording. 23:26:10 03SamB * r1930a6b2edf9 10/crawl-ref/source/ (food.cc food.h itemname.cc): Preliminary food edibility labeling. 23:29:07 Ghouls can't eat hcl chunks under the new food rules. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4707) by ebarrett 23:33:19 -!- Torokasi has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 23:36:12 Lua error: /home/naesten/hacking/crawl/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/builder/food.des:9: Bad item name: 23:36:13 _'bread ration' x25 23:38:01 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:16 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 23:50:51 -!- greatzebu has quit [Quit: greatzebu]