00:14:06 -!- Guest52582 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:15:12 -!- Guest52582 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:26:58 -!- CoffeeOblivion has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 00:27:52 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:30:37 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:14 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-349-g7a3c6d3 (32) 00:40:43 Possible Labyrinth Tiles (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4438) by ontoclasm 00:42:54 -!- voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:05:46 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:32 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:09:57 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:11:37 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: No route to host] 01:11:49 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:17:07 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:31 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:18:55 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:21:13 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22:53 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 01:23:14 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:27:11 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:50 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 01:48:07 -!- RichardHawk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:36 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:56 moin 02:40:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:28 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:42:44 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:43:13 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:34 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:46:33 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:47:26 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:48:40 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:49:12 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:50:43 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:54 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:52:40 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:53:28 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:55:03 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:56:01 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:57:02 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:57:42 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 02:59:02 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 02:59:53 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:01:05 -!- MarvinPA__ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:01:41 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:03:22 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:41 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:06:08 -!- MarvinPA__ has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:06:09 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:15 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:08:32 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:10:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:54:59 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:28:10 -!- voker57 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:28:56 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:32:46 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:21 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 04:39:11 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51:35 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:04:57 Tralala (L14 HaIE) ASSERT(!monster_at(p) || monster_at(p)->submerged() || fedhas_passthrough(monster_at(p))) in 'player.cc' at line 414 failed. (D:13) 05:15:03 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:18:06 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:18:06 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:31:01 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:32:05 -!- RichardHawk has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:15 flashdoom (L12 MuBe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 104: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef)) 06:00:19 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 06:09:49 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:10:57 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:10:57 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to 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'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 104: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef)) 06:30:48 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 06:31:31 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:34:33 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:41:14 flashdoom (L17 MuBe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 104: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef)) 06:41:15 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:42:02 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:02 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:52:13 flashdoom (L19 MuBe) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 104: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,48) (the Orb) (D:1 (ZotDef)) 06:52:23 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:53:27 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:53:27 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:57:21 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:04 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 07:02:05 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Client Quit] 07:12:20 -!- |amethyst has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:12:23 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 07:13:18 -!- Ashenzari has joined 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is now known as st_ 08:47:45 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:01:19 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 09:01:46 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:01:53 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:36:05 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 09:36:07 -!- Adeon has quit [*.net *.split] 09:42:57 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:44:16 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:12:06 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:24:14 03kilobyte 07layout * r848d241774fd 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dgn-forest.cc dgn-forest.h main.cc): A failed attempt at a generator for the Forest. 10:26:07 03kilobyte 07layout * r94b411b72f11 10/crawl-ref/source/ (coord.cc coord.h): A definition of Compass. 10:26:08 03kilobyte 07layout * r0d46bedc2535 10/crawl-ref/source/ (coordit.cc coordit.h): Don't let iterator++ return a value. 10:26:08 03kilobyte 07layout * rbd0bcedb04c7 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dgn-delve.cc dgn-delve.h main.cc): Reimplement Kusigrosz' layout_delve. 10:26:15 03kilobyte 07layout * r10707ab65bdb 10/crawl-ref/source/AppHdr.h: Use more randomness than just time(), even in this mock-up. 10:35:43 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:03 kilobyte: do you have a plan where to apply kusigrosz' algorithm? 10:39:12 dpeg: for Spider, and perhaps even connecting between subvaults on Dwarf 10:39:25 ah, great 10:39:37 this generator has a number of knobs, playing with them can produce greatly distinct results 10:39:45 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:39:49 kilobyte: could we use this within a branch? 10:40:14 among the WIP branches, is one of them advanced enough to be planned for 0.10? 10:40:15 I love it when the branch depth matters in some way (not just monster difficulty) 10:40:20 I'd have to talk to Zaba how he'd like me to interface with his map stuff 10:40:42 galehar: I hope Spider requires just a map generator 10:40:52 there should be enough monsters, yes 10:41:16 a lua function for the layout, that takes all the knobs as arguments, plus a layout vault that calls it 10:41:19 I guess 10:42:00 my plans for Forest were probably too ambitious, with different rules for every floor (one with 546988 subvaults, one or a few that regenerate out of LOS, one with darkness, etc) 10:42:24 Zaba: yeah, but that can't postprocess after other vaults are placed, right? 10:42:45 right 10:43:04 I mean, when several vaults are placed, it'd be nice to have the layout spill out of their connectors rather than use straight lines 10:43:38 kilobyte: I see. My idea of convergence within a branch is more continuous... for example, Orc:1 could have a tendency for small bubbles (the stair issue notwithstanding) up to Orc:4 being in general just one bubble. The corridors in Vaults could become wider with depth (likewise for dungeon) etc. 10:44:09 kilobyte, a special connectivity function would be needed for that 10:44:13 Zaba: still, I tried to make this code use as few references to underlying storage as possible, so we could try simple map_lines first 10:44:14 We have something a little like this with the Slime walls: they get more dangerous the deeper you go. 10:44:35 kilobyte, as an alternative to _connect_vault_exit and _connect_spotty 10:46:22 kilobyte: regarding TSO and reflection, would you agree to just mark the shields as dangerous items (and give an explanation in the description). 10:46:34 That seems like the easiest solution to me, and TSO can take it. 10:48:33 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:45 I think they should be treated as indirect kill, like the ones of summons 10:49:50 kilobyte, several vaults can only be placed as secondary anyway, and the layout generator is done at that point 10:50:00 same for enslaved monsters killed by hostile 10:50:42 kilobyte, and reinventing that with subvaults within the level generator would be... impractical 10:50:53 that being vault placement 10:53:09 galehar: currently they are full kills (full xp)? 10:54:01 dpeg: yes. I would change that to half XP and no blame (not angering TSO and no mummy curses) 10:54:52 not so sure about it, reflection is already considered the weakest shield brand 10:55:43 and it used to not cause blame until a recent regression 10:56:07 so you're thinking no blame but full XP? 10:56:48 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:49 oooh, the set of Lab tiles ontoclasm made looks great 10:57:04 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 10:59:02 yes they do 11:00:24 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:08:06 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:20 kilobyte: reflection is considered weaker than protection? 11:16:53 I wouldn't personally say that, I think folks on ##crawl underestimate it a bit 11:17:56 so the question is whether to buff reflection (no blame, full xp), nerf it (blame, indirect kill) or nerf it only for TSO 11:19:46 no blame, full xp would make it a strange exception (at least i don't think anything else works like that?), it'd be nice to stay consistent in terms of that i'd say 11:19:48 indirect kills still give full XP (poison, clouds, ...) -- I guess you meant treating it like an ally kill 11:20:02 MarvinPA: sure. What would you choose? 11:20:13 kilobyte: galehar proposed that 11:20:14 MarvinPA: confusion for example 11:20:35 as in confusion drownings? 11:20:41 or confused monsters hitting other monsters? 11:20:43 he also suggested that confusion etc should give xp/2 11:21:28 We just need some solution that works for TSO+reflection. 11:22:09 are there any attacks other than poison ones that you can reflect and TSO dislikes? 11:22:22 bolts of draining? 11:22:45 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:00 could even say that whenever you would have reflected something that would cause penance, you just block it instead (or deliberately miss with the reflection, or whatever) 11:23:23 MarvinPA: sure, that is still another proposal 11:23:46 since there's a sort of precedent for that, if you mutate a poisonous stinger then you're assumed to voluntarily not attack with it to avoid angering TSO 11:23:47 my suggestion was the cheapest one: just colour the shield magenta for TSOers and be done with it :) 11:23:58 but yeah, that works fine too :P 11:24:20 MarvinPA: yes, but you cannot decide not to use the stinger whereas you wear the shield voluntarily! 11:25:12 true! and it's not likely that you'll have trouble finding an alternative shield by the mid/late game, anyway 11:25:21 yes 11:28:20 hah, interesting bug: if you enter a Lab from Crypt or Tomb (via a card), stone will turn to rock in tiles 11:28:43 TSO hating a certain type of shield is a bit ridiculous even by good god standards. He doesn't care if you're unchivalric against demons/undead, why should yell at you for someone killing themselves with a vile projectile? 11:29:26 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: edlothiol] 11:31:33 RichardHawk: not sure... it is possible to reflect a projectile to someone else? 11:38:33 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:48:55 I can't get this green death to fire at me through things. 11:49:19 If you reflect a green death's poison arrow at it, there is no transgression. For naga mages TSO hates you though. 11:50:33 RichardHawk: It's a demon? 11:51:30 Green death is a demon, yes 11:51:58 Then maybe TSO doesn't care if you do evil stuff to demons? 11:52:10 Apparently. 11:52:29 Does poison do any non posion damage? 11:52:55 Poison arrow has an unresistable part. 11:53:11 Ok, was thinking it might be immunity messing with you 11:53:32 Both of those mobs are poison immune, anyway 11:53:37 ah right 11:53:52 It's reflecting a poisonous attack at a non-demonic/undead creature that triggers it. 11:54:02 Or bolt of draining, I would suppose 11:55:00 Which still strikes me as rather harsh. Gods aren't supposed to be willfully dumb. 11:55:02 I think. 11:58:17 Apparently TSO is even cool with you casting poison spells -yourself- to kill demons. 11:58:24 Necromancy is instant excommunication though. 11:58:41 he's fine with poison spells as long as you don't actually poison anything 11:59:46 Oh, wait 11:59:54 I forgot poison arrow poisons through rP 12:00:06 Necromancy is penance, only lich form is instant 12:03:10 Ah, my piety was too low then. 12:03:24 And yeah, TSO hates on you for poisoning the poisonable demons too. 12:04:10 So basically reflecting poison is not okay only if the caster gets poisoned by the reflected bolt 12:04:14 How utterly bizarre 12:06:21 Sycthos (L27 HEWz) ASSERT(feat_is_solid(feat)) in 'beam.cc' at line 1114 failed. (Pan) 12:06:53 RichardHawk: the idea of conduct is pretty clear; our choice how we turn it into rules 12:07:44 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:08:57 dpeg: I assume there is no ban on the poison school to allow for Cure Poison? 12:09:39 the idea is that you should fight chivalric 12:09:46 cure poison is not a problem 12:10:08 Well 12:10:48 The definition of chivalry is somewhat inconsistent here 12:11:01 You're allowed to attack a sleeping orange demon, but not poison it 12:12:02 On the other hand poison spells are perfectly a-okay if they don't poison the target 12:14:09 -!- Guest52582 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:56 I did not say the current system is perfect. 12:15:37 fleeing used to be the main complaint among TSO's rules 12:18:36 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:57 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 12:20:22 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest1402 12:34:15 Should TSO ban most of the hexes as well, for that reason? 12:34:36 Not that most followers will really have much use for the debuffs... 12:38:40 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:06 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 12:40:09 03kilobyte * r6dbe20eff23d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (24 files in 4 dirs): A great set of Lab tiles by ontoclasm. 12:40:19 03kilobyte * r54e086edeff4 10/crawl-ref/source/tileview.cc: Remove a nasty hack for rock/stone walls in Crypt, Tomb and portals from there. 12:40:32 dpeg: you still haven't told me what the Orb glow is supposed to do. There's a number of proposals, but you need to decide. 12:41:49 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:42:06 1. actual glow (!Invis, -EV, -Stealth), 2. slower dissipation of magical contamination, 3. etc, etc 12:45:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:03:57 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:05:59 !tell dpeg could you tell me what should the orb glow actually do? Give a corona/halo (no invis, -EV, -Stealth)? Slow down dissipation of magic contamination? Only some other effects? 13:06:16 kilobyte: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 13:06:34 -!- upsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:26 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:18:08 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 13:19:53 !seen kilobyte 13:19:53 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 13:19:54 I last saw kilobyte at Fri Aug 26 18:06:13 2011 UTC (13m 40s ago) saying !tell dpeg could you tell me what should the orb glow actually do? Give a corona/halo (no invis, -EV, -Stealth)? Slow down dissipation of magic contamination? Only some other effects? on ##crawl-dev. 13:21:15 kilobyte: thanks for pushing this. The halo effect is good and expected. What about the orb halo stopping magic contamination dissipation? Too much? You only have to take it for 32 levels, after all. 13:22:53 -!- upsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:23:27 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:05 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 13:57:12 -!- upsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:00 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:56 -!- ion has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:46 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:28:47 -!- upsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:31:33 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:39:11 -!- MarvinPA_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:53:30 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:58:13 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:04:52 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 15:54:27 -!- upsy has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:57:09 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:10 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:59 -!- RichardHawk has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 16:05:29 -!- RichardHawk has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:09 Passage of Golubria portal tile (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4439) by Denzi 16:36:56 -!- sabaki has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/] 17:13:40 -!- aristid has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:15:09 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 17:25:54 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:32:33 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 17:35:30 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:37:46 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:00 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 17:46:43 -!- petete has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:19:19 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: edlothiol] 18:30:59 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 18:37:45 -!- elliptic has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:56:41 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:57:08 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 19:24:56 -!- aristid has joined ##crawl-dev 19:26:35 03kilobyte * rb4c3ab02fd3f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Orb glow in tiles. 19:26:47 03kilobyte * r55dbf8235451 10/crawl-ref/source/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Denzi's tile for passage of Golubria's portals. 19:26:47 03kilobyte * rf8d5dca8b35b 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Notify the player that he can expect forces of Pan to try to kick his ass. 19:26:48 03kilobyte * r571e60d2acef 10/crawl-ref/source/effects.cc: Halve dissipation of glow when near the Orb. 19:47:09 -!- syllogism has quit [] 20:10:09 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:21:29 -!- pwnmonkey has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:28 -!- Napkin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:25:28 What does crawl use to render to the console on Windows? 20:25:28 -!- Napkin has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:28 -!- jlewis has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:29:15 -!- jlewis has joined ##crawl-dev 20:30:00 pwnmonkey: I know it involves SDL 20:30:21 Is it using Console? or is it just a direct SDL window 20:32:19 I think it just uses the windows console. 20:32:58 But windows console doesnt support ncurses. So what could it be using? 20:33:03 conio or somehitng? 20:33:10 i know the unix version use ncurses 20:37:07 A better terminal. 20:37:27 Um. 20:37:37 http://code.google.com/p/mintty/ 20:37:39 pwnmonkey: Crawl uses the standard Win32api. 20:37:56 With a back-end to make it act like ncurses. 20:39:32 Ah ok, thanks =) 20:40:30 ah, I thought he was referring to tiles :P 20:40:36 "render" overrode "console" 20:41:14 we could do owner-drawn rendering of the console though, it is a nice solution. 21:30:11 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 21:40:51 lua error on map generation (different versions installed) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4440) by Benzene 22:27:05 -!- DiazepaN has joined ##crawl-dev 22:35:11 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 22:42:09 Yunor the Thaumaturge (L12 MuSu) ERROR in 'mon-movetarget.cc' at line 104: ZotDef: monster it failed to pathfind to (39,52) (the Orb) (D:1) 22:55:05 -!- DiazepaN has quit [Quit: DiazepaN] 23:15:04 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 23:25:59 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:38:15 03dolorous * r613469b5773f 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Add punctuation fix. 23:48:22 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev