00:14:10 -!- Guest61102 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:14:17 -!- Guest61102 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:17 Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-270-g231db9a (32) 00:34:41 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:41:08 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 01:33:19 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 01:41:17 -!- Pacra has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:41:24 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 01:48:56 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 01:49:46 moin 01:53:41 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:07:05 -!- Xiberia has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:09:12 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:02 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:25:40 !seen napkin 02:25:41 I last saw Napkin at Wed Aug 17 21:27:42 2011 UTC (9h 57m 59s ago) saying gnight o/ on ##crawl-dev. 02:44:41 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:50:58 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:11 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:38 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12:40 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:31 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:18:26 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:57 due: Crawl works on arm just fine. Support for tiles on various platforms is another story. 03:30:52 due: for example, you can reliably use GL tiles if you ssh -X into a phone but not natively :p 03:31:20 with software mesa, it partially works: visual corruption and insanely slow speed 03:32:10 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:34:14 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 03:36:02 elliptic is the king 03:36:02 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 03:36:06 !messages 03:36:07 (1/1) ghallberg said (10h 54m 59s ago): The reason the implementable for auto drop isn't closed is that there are some other things under the same issue, auto-quaff/eat/read etc that someone might want to do at some point. 03:36:38 kilobyte: wtf? networked gl works, but local doesn't? i've never seen it this way around :) 03:36:42 ghallberg: what to do? 03:37:37 dpeg: Close it and I'll make a new issue with the stuff that's left, if it's even any interesintg? 03:37:37 bhaak: that's the beauty of X :p 03:38:13 ghallberg: ok, will do (and comment on interest) 03:38:22 Cool 03:38:29 the problem is, the X server needs to support OpenGL. No popular mobile platform does that -- they at most have GLES. 03:38:35 kilobyte: the beauty of X used to be the other way around :-) 03:39:42 oh, i didn't know that you had to specifically write GLES. so there is no 'take this GL code, render all that's possible in GLES and do the rest in software"? 03:40:06 I mean, what is nice is that remote access is in no way a second class citizen, unlike all other ways to access graphics hardware. 03:40:33 the direction of works vs not works in this particular case would be nicer when reversed, yeah :p 03:41:24 whats the url to the bug tracker? 03:41:54 cbus: https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/ 03:43:26 ghallberg: I am confused... is auto_drop in? Are we talking about 4204? 03:43:48 dpeg: Oh, not that one 03:44:06 which one? 03:47:01 dpeg: The one I thought you meant was already resolved, sorry 03:47:09 no sweat 03:47:11 4183 03:49:07 hm. 03:50:08 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:50:16 Zaba: what is it? 03:50:43 dpeg, did you add the minotaur bug? :) 03:51:03 why should I? Our players add their bugs themselves! 03:51:21 hehe, guess I'll wait for someone else to find it :) 03:51:31 or maybe add on lunch 03:51:32 lazy cbus 03:53:50 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:07:51 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 04:10:28 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:11:21 dpeg: what should we do with Fi/Gl starting with two-handed weapons and shields (handedness changes with race)? Don't give a shield at all? Give it unequipped? 04:11:45 kilobyte: oh, awesome 04:11:48 give a smaller weapon? 04:11:51 kilobyte: i have debian running on my archos tablet 04:12:06 due: <3 04:12:41 kilobyte: it's /really cool/. the wifi support isn't so good yet, and the on-screen GOK sucks, but otherwise it is good! 04:12:46 -!- syllogism- has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:12:53 dpeg: spears are at least 1.5-handed, this turns them into two-handers for small races 04:13:05 (I'm getting a folding USB keyboard -> crawl!) 04:13:26 ah, spears 04:13:57 kilobyte: it depends... if we say that the shield is the definitive part of Fi, then we could simply disable those choices 04:15:18 that's a third option, yeah 04:16:01 I would say it doesn't matter terribly much, I mean spears. 04:16:06 Just take the one that is simplest. 04:16:39 no shield would rob them of the extra part of equipment and associated skills, making jobs with weapon choice but no shield (warper, skald, god ones) strictly better 04:16:48 yes, I agree 04:16:59 so either no shield but a skill boost or no spear choice at all 04:17:12 easier no spear choice 04:17:21 m'kay 04:18:10 kilobyte: otherwise we need to think about the compensation etc 04:19:59 kilobyte: does the debian package repo have armel in it, or will i need to compile it myself? 04:22:27 due: 0.7.1 in squeeze, 0.8.0 in squeeze backports, 0.8.1 in wheezy, 0.9.0 in unstable 04:22:47 -!- timecircuits has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:47 -!- timecircuits1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:23:23 that's the official repositories, ours has 0.8.1 and 0.9.0 (trunk is currently disabled and an alias to 0.9) 04:24:42 dpeg: oh, actually only spriggans have all spear-class weapons 2-handed. With halflings and kobolds, it's more tricky: spears are 1.5-handed but everything better is strictly 2-handed. 04:25:17 so if you use a shield, you're stuck with no upgrade path (or you can dump it and lose the skills) 04:25:19 hm, nice 04:25:22 kilobyte: then let's say no spear choice for Sp,Ha,Ko 04:27:38 -!- timecircuits1 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:27:38 -!- timecircuits has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:32:12 -!- evilmike has quit [Quit: something happened] 04:33:08 dpeg, is #4392 intended behaviour? 04:33:43 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 04:33:55 Zaba: yes, I made a test run with 100 tries and a comment 04:34:00 the behaviour is rare, but okay 04:34:30 should probably be closed as such, then. 04:35:25 yes, thank you 04:37:04 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:26 galehar: hi! Good work with the mimics. 04:38:02 hi 04:38:27 yeah, not finished, the bulk of it is there 04:40:07 03kilobyte * rb2ad2dccd2cb 10/crawl-ref/source/libutil.cc: An assertion check against infinite loops in replace_all() and friends. 04:40:07 03kilobyte * r09d61ff083b4 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-restr.cc: Disallow polearms as a weapon choice for {Sp,Ha,Ko}{Fi,Gl}. 04:40:07 03kilobyte * r80812af1774e 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Fix a crash on some randart properties. 04:40:48 due: what's your archos tablet? 04:41:33 galehar: archos 101 04:41:56 awesome 04:42:03 I have a 70 04:42:19 how did you install debian on it? 04:42:27 um... pretty easyy, actually! 04:42:41 you install the SDE, and then download and replace the rootfs.img with that one. 04:42:51 then when you boot into the "developer" edition, et voila! you have debian. 04:43:05 http://www.debian-archos.com/ 04:43:30 hm. distcc <3 04:43:33 great, I'll try that 04:43:45 and is crawl running? 04:43:56 I haven't tried it yet, only just got in about half an hour ago 04:44:20 i have vim and vim-gnome and i managed to get inform6 compiled and running! 04:45:18 'make -j4 debug' takes 2 minutes on my netbook 04:45:30 Zaba: nice! 04:45:49 that's with distcc, using my homeserver for two more jobs 04:45:51 Zaba: distcc still needs like 10 minutes to link. Cross-compilation <3 04:45:55 kilobyte, not here 04:46:46 well, I guess that by "netbook" you mean something bigger than a phone 04:46:52 yes.. 04:47:04 I don't even attempt compiling anything on my dumbphone :P 04:47:25 galehar: I was torn between an archos and an EEE tab but I went for the Archos -- I'll use it for work-related development and stuff, too, but I am no limited to this of course :) 04:48:37 I really wish there was a decent portable machine with a keyboard with up-to-date specs 04:49:09 Yes, that would be /nice/. 04:49:16 I was tempted by the eeepad but it's just... too chunky. 04:49:49 I'm pretty happy with my netbook (a thinkpad x120e) 04:50:26 that's luggable rather than portable 04:50:35 I have an EEE PC (1000HA) but... yes, luggable rather than portable. 04:50:44 So long as this folding keyboard isn't /too/ large, the Archos will be very portable. 04:52:39 I dunno, it's portable enough for my purposes 05:05:18 profreshinal (L9 HaAr) ERROR in 'tileview.cc' at line 916: non-door tile (Bailey) 05:34:27 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 05:50:27 -!- Galefury has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:54 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:59:33 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:59:33 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:13:24 -!- galehar_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:20:54 Napkin: could you mark 0.8 in Mantis as old, 0.9 as stable, 0.10 as devel and switch the default resolution to "fixed in 0.10"? 06:22:05 03galehar * r265ec2af9380 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Fix aborted drop using a turn (#4402). 06:22:06 03galehar * r3d2ab66fdd5b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (items.cc items.h): Fix drop last using a single turn. 06:22:07 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * ra5739e890afc 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Fix aborted drop using a turn (#4402). 06:22:07 03galehar 07stone_soup-0.9 * r1b13fe2cb762 10/crawl-ref/source/ (items.cc items.h): Fix drop last using a single turn. 06:22:30 yes, in a minute 06:24:47 Patch for choosing a weapon for hunters (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4405) by Voker57 06:25:06 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 06:29:51 edlothiol is developer now, right? 06:29:59 yes! 06:30:29 ok, mantis adjusted then, I think 06:32:32 <3 06:32:42 thank you! 06:32:44 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 06:33:06 (I kept marking random things with a wrong "fixed in" tag) 06:33:19 yeah, i can imagine 06:33:37 well, i can't really say sorry for being on vacations ;-P 06:33:50 btw, dpeg - how about adding Adam as manager to mantis? :> 06:34:00 or Administrator even 06:34:09 Napkin: sure! 06:34:51 so, what about #4405? Letting hunter choose a starting weapon. Sounds good to me. Anyone opposed? 06:34:53 dpeg: Terpsichore. She's currently disabled as she's either a pushover or a Sigmund, and encourages mucking with stealing her weapons. 06:35:33 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:35:35 galehar_: it's okay, but ammunition should be not constant, rather linked to mulch rate 06:35:39 solutions: 1. declaring her a failed experiment or doing to her what should be done with halflings, or 2. trying a controlled environment (wizlab?) 06:35:51 kilobyte: please remind me what her trick is 06:35:53 s/or/and/ 06:36:07 dpeg: Tukima's Ball 06:36:13 ah 06:36:31 yes, she would make good wizlab material 06:36:38 where are our wizlab hounds? 06:36:54 if there's plenty of weapons lying around -> oy vey gevalt. So you need to drag her somewhere else. 06:36:57 hounds? 06:37:01 masters 06:37:35 manager it is, dpeg - otherwise he'll complain about the "new account registered"-emails ;) 06:38:20 and yes, I hope to get 0.9 ready for webtiles today.. yesterday the backup/moving of 0.6 took quite a while 06:39:04 Napkin: what did you do with 0.6? 06:39:09 saved away? 06:46:30 dpeg, reported the Mi bug 06:48:34 do I get a cookie? 06:49:44 !cookie cbus 06:49:55 Minotaur take extra damage from silver (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4406) by cbus 06:50:03 moved it out of the DGL installation, dpeg 06:53:52 -!- galehar_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:54:15 napkin, :) 06:54:19 !coffee napkin 06:54:22 * Henzell hands napkin a mug of café au lait, brewed by Gastronok. 06:54:51 ;) 06:59:23 cbus: thanks 07:01:28 np 07:01:32 hope its easy to fix :) 07:07:48 hrm, IPv6 between ffm-b2-v6.telia.net and hetzner-ic-134650-ffm-b2.c.telia.net takes over 200ms 07:09:33 of course, as any ex-mudder will tell you, having two routes to choose from is a godsent; it's just that some folks don't know how to avoid the lag here 07:10:15 so Str+1 makes you demonic? 07:10:17 I don't get it 07:10:39 silver damages chaos, not demons 07:10:47 ahh k 07:10:48 and mutations make you chaotic :P 07:11:02 weird but ok :) 07:11:31 it's just a tiny bit of damage 07:11:38 but its an entire line of text! :) 07:12:49 5% per mutation, maxing at +75% 07:13:58 -!- ixtli has quit [Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.] 07:15:19 but Zin doesn't dislike potions of gain foo 07:15:41 so maybe those mutations could be special cased 07:19:22 hm, that's true i guess 07:25:46 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:34:42 should delegate that to dolorous 07:57:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 07:59:47 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:01:56 what kind of misc functions should go into mon-util.cc and mon-stuff.cc? Is there a difference? 08:04:31 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:09 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:09:32 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:53 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:28:18 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:29:13 -!- hoody has quit [Read error: No route to host] 08:29:32 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:21 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 08:34:49 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:39:32 galehar, nope, there's no strict difference. That code is poorly organized :p 08:39:41 galehar, as is any code that has 'misc' or 'stuff' in it :P 08:40:19 -!- Euph0riaX has joined ##crawl-dev 08:43:12 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:31 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:53 you can distinguish fake rakshasa with ash monster detection. Fake ones are "trivial" since they give no xp. 09:05:23 galehar: do we want that? 09:05:35 if so, it should be clear (i.e. obvious on the main screen) 09:05:47 no I don't think it's fine 09:06:11 and fake rakshasa are almost as dangerous as real ones, so the threat level detection is misleading 09:06:35 then we need to camouflage the fake ones 09:06:35 but making a exper_value() function which works with monster_info doesn't look very fun 09:07:12 would be needed if we were to make threat level public (in description) 09:07:16 hm, couldn't fake R's be special cased to be tiered as ordinary rakshasas? 09:08:24 it's not that simple. Tier is calculated from experience value. 09:08:34 yes, I know 09:09:03 but within that calculation we could make a special case for fakes, telling them to use the ordinary rashasa value instead 09:10:40 perhaps I am missing something... just doing Tomb:3 09:12:15 concentrate, that's where you failed during the last tournament :) 09:12:26 I already forgot :) 09:13:17 changing the monster type isn't enough. exper_value() uses a bunch of parameters which it takes directly from monster 09:25:56 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 09:40:52 -!- st_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:42:41 Why does the message say "You find a trap!" instead of "You find a [foo] trap!" ? 09:43:04 because [foo] is a silly word 09:44:22 I assume you know what I mean. 09:44:59 I need more help with my rc file 09:45:32 what is it? 09:45:36 stat_colour 09:45:54 stat_colour = 2:lightred, 5:red, 15, 20:blue, 25:lightblue, 30:green, 35:lightgreen, 72:yellow 09:46:00 says it's invalid 09:46:12 what is the 15 doing there? 09:46:21 I figured that was the problem 09:46:29 what's the default color? 09:46:34 lightgrey? 09:46:36 you have to try several versions, it's like coding 09:46:37 yes 09:47:02 I prefer documentation over trial and error. 09:47:23 I prefer to clear Tomb:3. 09:47:42 It just makes me feel like a monkey throwing poo at a wall 09:47:50 that is also made of poo 09:48:00 why do you think coding is different? 09:48:27 ZChris13, what's the color you see by default? Looks a lot like lightgrey to me. 09:48:35 it's common sense :P 09:49:54 Thanks for the help 09:49:59 I think I got it fixed. 09:50:07 lol 'common sense" 09:50:48 okay, it's basic deduction. Call it whatever you want ;p 09:50:54 When the actual color can vary wildly by your console implementation and monitor. 09:51:14 and your color perception 09:51:23 and your color settings 09:51:37 * dpeg bows to Kikubaaqudgha. 09:51:59 are you actually doing Tomb right now dpeg 09:52:08 just finished 09:52:14 high five! 09:52:34 third rune is golden 10:05:36 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:09:51 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:04 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 10:27:01 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:35:24 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:35:50 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 10:37:51 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0.1/20110707182747]] 10:37:52 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:40:11 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:53:38 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:08:53 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:19 -!- timecircuits1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:17:59 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 11:19:16 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:00 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 11:33:54 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:52:31 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:05 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:58 -!- Guest61102 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:14:17 -!- Guest61102 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:14:55 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:16:51 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:57 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:30:13 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:30:38 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 12:34:55 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:35:54 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 12:38:02 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 12:43:03 heh, a purple drac got hit by his own breath (reflected) and started wandering 12:45:12 again, every time 12:51:51 Infinite loop after identifying randart ring (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4407) by OrangeXP 12:54:48 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:55:12 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:29 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 13:17:05 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 13:17:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 13:22:20 03dolorous * re90866568ffd 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Comment fix. 13:22:35 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 13:22:51 "stale processes" ... what do I have to do to keep my game? 13:23:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:35 dpeg: what is the full message? 13:23:50 There are some stale SSTrunk processes... 13:23:59 ok, time's up, game's back 13:24:01 sorry for mess 13:24:21 yeah, I always just wait for the 10s or whatever 13:24:30 I don't actually know what happens if you don't 13:24:39 nothing 13:24:41 it quits 13:24:49 the game keeps running 13:25:54 yes, it goes back to the main screen 13:40:00 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:42:56 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:05 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:43:32 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:14 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:53 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:11:29 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 14:12:42 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 14:28:54 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:23 Throwable starting weapons should be automatically inscribed with "=f" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4408) by SamB 14:49:53 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: zzz] 14:50:26 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:51:38 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:01:15 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 15:15:51 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:32:52 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 15:34:24 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:39:31 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 15:39:43 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 15:39:49 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 15:40:42 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 15:40:44 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 15:41:52 you figure he would quit trying 15:42:41 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 15:44:38 ups there he goes again 16:03:36 -!- ussdefiant has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:05:14 Prono the Eclecticist (L18 VpSu) ASSERT(feat < NUM_FEATURES) in 'feature.cc' at line 24 failed on turn 88100. (Abyss) 16:07:28 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:55 -!- Galefury has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 16:23:29 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:28:00 Auto-explore + butterflies + launcher = annoying prompt (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4410) by SamB 16:28:00 Ally melee weapon pickup doesn't work (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4409) by 78291 16:54:45 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:55:10 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:50 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:03:57 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 17:04:23 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:07:41 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:13:53 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:15 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:24:39 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:11 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:33:21 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:10 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:38:59 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:23 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:39:49 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 17:43:38 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 17:51:49 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 17:56:05 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:02:18 03galehar * r839935c1e6cf 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.cc: Fix a mislead leak with fake enchantments. 18:02:18 03galehar * r91b6bb221671 10/crawl-ref/source/ (godpassive.cc mon-stuff.cc mon-util.cc mon-util.h): Add a mons_threat_level function to be used by ash tiers. 18:02:18 03galehar * rbf8c7df88d4e 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-info.cc: Clean up some obsolete code in mon-info.cc 18:02:18 03galehar * r07a99e4cac07 10/crawl-ref/source/output.cc: Monster list: hide health indicator if monster don't display damage. 18:02:18 03galehar * r8a86b7c65546 10/crawl-ref/source/misc.cc: Print the trap type when trap is discovered. 18:17:35 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:30:19 OrangeXP the Imperceptible (L24 KoBe) (Elf:5) 18:31:03 !lm * crash -log 18:31:04 1420. OrangeXP, XL24 KoBe, T:95063 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/OrangeXP/crash-OrangeXP-20110818-233018.txt 18:33:03 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 18:33:42 Entering a bazaar from a Trowel card causes a crash. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4411) by AStranger 18:40:41 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:43:46 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:44:21 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:52:08 03kilobyte * r24ac8eed4303 10/crawl-ref/source/godpassive.cc: Remove an useless calculation. 19:03:34 -!- GreatZebu has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:37 do you guys need someone to pick up the mac build for 0.9, or has someone volunteered already? 19:10:37 GreatZebu: if you build it, they will play 19:10:50 which is to say I have no idea, but I don't think bmh is around 19:11:17 so it couldn't hurt to make a build and offer it to the devs :) 19:11:28 ok, I was thinking about taking a closer look at it this weekend, but I don't want to duplicate effort if someone else is already on top of it 19:17:58 -!- st_ has quit [] 19:27:32 Query: Whenabouts does a Demonspawn get his full set of mutations? 27 or earlier? 19:41:09 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 19:42:12 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:24 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:44 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:43:55 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:44:19 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 19:45:27 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 19:47:19 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:48:27 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:50:51 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 19:53:56 -!- hoody has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:54:08 -!- ixtli has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:21 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 19:58:35 -!- hoody has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:59:51 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:02:32 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:03:48 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:23 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:13:28 -!- GreatZebu has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:17:32 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 20:19:32 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:21:49 -!- GreatZebu has joined ##crawl-dev 20:28:46 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 20:35:00 -!- dtsund has quit [Quit: dtsund] 20:37:20 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 20:37:55 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 20:43:54 -!- dtsund has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 20:56:24 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:57:41 -!- ZChris13__ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:58:07 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:58:32 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 20:58:36 -!- ZChris13__ is now known as ZChris13 21:01:31 -!- ZChris13_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:02:28 -!- diazepan has joined ##crawl-dev 21:54:47 description for white draconians missing a period (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4412) by Maha 21:59:48 ; picks up gold (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4413) by Kyrris 22:08:49 -!- GreatZebu has quit [Read error: No route to host] 22:09:20 -!- GreatZebu has joined ##crawl-dev 22:10:51 i made a set of mac binaries. anyone interested in testing them? 22:12:10 * due doesn't have a mac, sorry. 22:13:04 thanks anyway, i'll try to recruit a few testers before i try to get them accepted for distribution 22:21:28 -!- dtsund has joined ##crawl-dev 22:24:56 Maurice stealing blood potions can cause coagulation timer to throw an error (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4414) by Kyrris 22:43:51 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:05 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:04:31 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:05:14 -!- GreatZebu has quit [Quit: GreatZebu] 23:06:22 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:20:14 Patch to implement "Improve on shop modes" from interface implementables (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4415) by blueDave 23:21:37 Was it 0.8 or 0.9 that removed Abyss wrapping? 23:21:59 -!- GreatZebu has joined ##crawl-dev 23:22:43 abyss wrapping never really existed 23:23:03 hmm? 23:23:06 certain features would wrap but not monsters... and it was all caused by a bug 23:23:37 not sure which version fixed it, but my memory says 0.6 or 0.7 23:25:15 the commit is this one, I believe: http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=2897d3537f6904d23672f9a049ed3c1600b06319 23:25:16 So the abyss is supposed to be infinite? 23:25:20 so was 0.7 23:25:57 0.7 was supposed to be infinite? 23:26:09 -!- GreatZebu has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 23:26:11 what do you mean by infinite 23:26:23 I just asked you 23:26:28 ... 23:26:33 like pi 23:26:39 nonrepeating 23:26:55 but it goes on forever 23:27:12 the way the pre-0.10 abyss works is the following: 23:28:06 when you move near the edge of the map, stuff on the opposite side of the map is deleted and the map is recentered on you 23:29:43 oh 23:29:46 that's how you do it 23:32:09 -!- diazepan has quit [Quit: Saindo] 23:36:31 Just askin' because I'm pondering the implementation of an idea. 23:37:50 (Short version: prospective allruners will need to take a relatively early Abyss trip to find the key to Hell) 23:42:29 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 5.0.1/20110707182747]] 23:42:45 -!- kilobyte has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:43:25 I don't know what you have in mind there but lots of people do pan+abyss before hells anyway 23:44:02 I mean "timed portal the floor after Lair entrance" 23:44:12 -!- kilobyte has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:56 Doable, I think, but scary; also incentive to finish up the early Lair branches early (even if it's not strict enforcement)