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seconds] 04:11:24 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:13:59 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:02 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:38:11 Sif Muna gifts way, way too many books (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4362) by kurper 04:39:16 heh, there's a Dungeon Crawl forum mafia game on SA 04:47:23 -!- moocowpong1 has quit [Quit: moocowpong1] 05:02:26 -!- celeborn has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:37 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 05:16:46 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:16:47 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:17:09 Blurry eyes mutation vs. Ashenzari "clear vision" perk (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4363) by Grmpf 05:20:33 03MarvinPA * r4e505a77ba80 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/traps/monster_doors.des: Fix a vault typo 05:20:34 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r619469a5cd75 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/traps/monster_doors.des: Fix a vault typo 05:20:42 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r1aec2331f046 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: More changelog updates 05:20:42 03MarvinPA * rdcb959c9c06a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/traps/beogh_trap.des: Don't mark a Beogh trap vault as an overflow altar 05:20:43 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.9 * r857bf7ab6f0a 10/crawl-ref/source/zotdef.cc: Tweak the wraith wave message for ZotDef: not all player species have hair. 05:20:43 03MarvinPA * re5adfc5dcc71 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: More changelog updates 05:20:43 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * re256dc635f8f 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/traps/beogh_trap.des: Don't mark a Beogh trap vault as an overflow altar 05:20:43 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.9 * r2d9a81ee4433 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monspeak.txt: Add punctuation fix. 05:24:28 -!- bmh has joined 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People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 07:20:44 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 07:26:43 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:27:30 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 07:27:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 07:29:45 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 07:45:20 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 07:52:57 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 07:55:09 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 08:04:06 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:18:21 -!- syraine has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 08:21:15 edlothiol: having a private crawl server is really engaging and motivating, i think making a guide to setting up private servers (and making it easier) would be a good idea :) 08:22:06 alternatively, private "realms" on CDO might be an option. 08:41:22 -!- syraine has joined ##crawl-dev 08:59:33 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:00:18 -!- petete has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32:20 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:14 -!- bmh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:51:14 -!- bmh_ has quit [Changing host] 09:51:14 -!- bmh_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:52:51 -!- bmh has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 09:52:51 -!- bmh_ is now known as bmh 10:38:39 -!- edlothiol has quit [Quit: edlothiol] 10:39:00 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:40 -!- moocowpong1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:02:47 -!- celeborn has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 11:02:48 -!- Guest14970 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:14:30 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 11:15:10 -!- 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!tell kilobyte I'm moving to the other side of the world at the end of the month, so I won't have much time to polish up the abyss. 14:55:15 bmh: OK, I'll let kilobyte know. 15:10:44 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 15:19:45 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:57 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:26:03 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:34:37 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 15:39:05 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 15:44:36 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:07 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:25:39 [PATCH] Describe tentacles in spider form as "front/hind leg" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4365) by jpeg 16:45:13 !tell bmh New Abyss rocks 16:45:14 greensnark: OK, I'll let bmh know. 16:47:32 <3 new abyss 16:50:15 -!- ussdefiant has joined ##crawl-dev 16:50:43 query: It possible for trunk downloads to have bad CRCs if i catch them in the middle of updating or something? 16:51:53 had to download tiles/normal Windows builds a few times before i stopped getting CRC errors on crawl.exe, miscname.txt, and the changelog 16:52:28 ah, the changelog *was* just updated recently, that could be the culprit 16:52:50 (trying to help because I don't know if anyone else is here right now) 16:53:12 were the errors just on extraction? does the game work? 16:53:25 extraction, didn't try running it yet 16:53:35 the last set i downloaded extracted without error, so... 16:54:32 I'll download and try extracting it myself 16:58:32 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:01 -!- petete has joined ##crawl-dev 17:01:32 it all seems to work fine for me 17:01:53 I'll ask the next time there are any devs around who might know what's up 17:02:15 eh, it works fine now, no big deal 17:24:21 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:09 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:12 -!- Pacra has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 17:33:19 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:36:28 03dolorous * rabfd388ab322 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Attempt to fix Mantis 4164. 17:36:38 03dolorous * ra669b8ac41bd 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Add spacing fixes. 17:39:29 -!- Euph0riaX has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:52 -!- syllogism has quit [] 17:51:36 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 17:54:08 03elliptic * r525711e1e6d7 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-pick.cc: Make catoblepae a little less rare in Lair. 17:54:44 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:55:05 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:55:22 Is the "monster ideas" submissions in learndb irrelevant? 17:55:33 yes 17:55:34 Eronarn: You have 33 messages. Use !messages to read them. 17:55:45 Euph0riaX: there is a huge list of monster ideas on the devwiki, try there instead 17:55:55 that reminds me, I need to remove catlobes from that list 17:56:16 Yeah. I was just wondering where the correct place would be to make a submission. 17:57:15 do it there, people will actually see it once in a while 17:57:17 ??devwiki 17:57:17 dev wiki[1/1]: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start 17:57:35 Euph0riaX: if you have a really good idea, like say for a yak that breathes petrifying clouds, your best bet is to code it yourself 18:06:11 didn't get an option to eat from floor while berserk (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4366) by Maha 18:11:13 Wensley: not quite like that... 18:11:21 I added a monster suggestion to the wiki https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:monster:new_monsters 18:11:30 Hope I did it right. 18:14:10 Euph0riaX: that sounds pretty cool. I think there is promise for more types of enemies generated from morgues, but first it would be nice if player/monster asymmetry was reduced 18:22:03 Mu_ Are there any other monster types that shouldn't go under "new monsters"? I guess I was under the impression that all new submissions went there. 18:23:07 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 18:23:08 don't worry about that. i think it's just the abyss that has its own monster ideas page. 18:23:36 oh there's one for demons too somewhere. 18:24:07 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:monster:demon 18:24:11 I think there might be one for plants too 18:24:17 or was that just a section 18:25:03 I see. So if I find a category that is more specific to a monster type, just use that instead of new monsters? 18:28:30 there was a larger goal generally of differentiating hell/pan/abyss from each other which is why those happen to have specific pages, unless you're suggestin something demonic the general new monsters page is prolly fine 18:29:13 Great, thank you. Still learning! 18:37:14 -!- Pacra has joined ##crawl-dev 18:38:47 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:45:18 -!- ainsophyao has joined ##crawl-dev 18:46:03 ok, to make a map and custom monsters do I need the get the source? 18:46:52 -!- ainsophyao has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:47:37 pete: Yes. 18:47:41 petete: Maps, no; custom monster, it depends. 18:47:56 petete: You can define "customised" monsters in map definitions, but if you want something more solid than that, you need the source. 18:48:19 petete: just warning you, might want to run your idea past someone first before you devote too much time to it :P 18:49:41 as you said I could start with a frog sewer map 18:49:57 the frog kingdom branch would be for later :P 18:50:05 Frog king unique <3 18:50:11 (No, not really.) 18:51:47 crannogmen 18:51:51 due: at some point, prince ribbit must ascend the throne 18:51:57 that'd be a sweet level ide 18:51:58 a 18:52:01 a crannog village 18:52:17 well, Ribbit is looking for the orb to break the curse on his kingdom 18:52:24 that makes total sense 18:52:55 whats a crannog? 18:52:59 nobody has any idea what the orb does, any reason makes sense :P 18:53:09 i know what the orb does 18:53:17 it spawns a ton of demons and makes your life hard 18:53:19 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TZAyyKQsuKQ/TV5z-rrejeI/AAAAAAAAET8/4X36I9D_wQ4/s1600/crannog1.jpg 18:53:37 evilmike: and it messes with teleport! 18:53:43 petete: an artificial island, made of wood, usually separated by wooden bridges into villages. 18:53:59 basically the orb is a scam, no one in their right mind would want that thing around... 18:54:13 give me the amulet of yendor any day 18:55:00 !send nethack pacra 18:55:00 Sending pacra to nethack. 18:55:02 evilmike: the goal of crawl is to bring the orb back to the surface and give it to your business rivals 18:55:11 haha 19:00:44 you should look at the orb, realize it's useless, and throw it back down a chasm to Zot 19:00:53 for the next poor sod 19:01:33 I thought the official line in Crawl was that the orb was desired for reasons unknown, but the gods definitely didn't want it, so as to be arbitrarily different from NetHack 19:05:34 haha 19:08:20 Elyvilon approves of your offer of peace. 19:08:20 The hellephant turns neutral. 19:08:20 screw you, elf:4 vault 19:11:34 it's an... elephant... door vault? 19:15:55 Added another new monster suggestion, probably too ambitious, but I love the concept. 19:20:22 Euph0riaX: once again, unless a dev really falls in love with an idea, you're 1000 times more likely to see it in-game if you code it yourself :P 19:22:38 Knowing nothing about coding, that would be rather impossible. Are you suggesting I shouldn't waste my time making suggestions? 19:23:12 I guess I was under the impression that it was encouraged. 19:25:56 everyone knew nothing about coding at some point 19:27:01 Euph0riaX: it's not that suggestions are discouraged, it's just that there are a *lot* of them 19:29:38 Is that a bad thing? It seems as if the tone is that suggestions are not really welcome because there are a lot? 19:30:15 I think you're reading too much into what wensley actually said, unless there was an earlier convo I missed 19:30:49 the point is that dev's attention is limited and fragmented 19:30:56 Euph0riaX: not at all! :D I'm just saying, there is a big backlog 19:30:58 "not really welcome" is not the same as "not likely to be implemented" 19:31:11 your suggestion will be read by devs 19:32:39 It's just an idea for the pool. Which is what brainstorming is, I thought. I don't expect anything to be implemented, even if I coded it myself and submitted it. As far as I can see from the other suggestions, mine are somewhat unique, though I could be mistaken. 19:33:47 I don't presume to know what will be accepted or rejected and I have no expectations other that to contribute an idea. 19:36:09 03dolorous * r5eef818128e9 10/crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc: Apply jpeg's patch in Mantis 4365 to handle tentacles for spiderform players. 19:36:10 03dolorous * rfbdabe32a4ec 10/crawl-ref/source/itemname.cc: Use your_hand() properly in one more place, and fix missing space in "hindleg". 19:36:10 03dolorous * r31107b828016 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Apply jpeg's patch in Mantis 4365 to differentiate now and already empty-handed. 19:36:20 03dolorous * re1ff96083ba7 10/crawl-ref/source/stuff.cc: Add minor cosmetic fix. 19:36:20 03dolorous * r175364b04275 10/crawl-ref/source/ (monster.cc player-act.cc): Resync player::arm_name() and monster::arm_name() as much as possible. 19:36:20 03dolorous * r9210185d7efa 10/crawl-ref/source/player-equip.cc: Make the wielding message for pain weapons properly use player::arm_name(). 19:36:21 03dolorous * r9eac88396738 10/crawl-ref/source/ (15 files): Consolidate your_hand() into player::hand_name(). 19:36:22 -!- hoody has joined ##crawl-dev 19:46:51 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:49:18 -!- Euph0riaX has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:25:05 -!- Euph0ria_MuWiz has joined ##crawl-dev 20:27:44 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 20:47:01 Crash on trying to access religion screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4367) by wolfechu 20:49:18 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:51:24 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 21:31:47 ajhager the Nimble (L11 TrBe) (Lair:5) 21:31:56 ajhager the Nimble (L11 TrBe) (Lair:5) 21:41:09 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:22:13 -!- Euph0ria_MuWiz is now known as Euph0riaX 22:40:12 03dolorous * r862ff195806a 10/crawl-ref/source/ (describe.cc religion.cc): Fix Mantis 4367. 22:44:09 03dolorous * r09a3e4651fb9 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Add spacing fix. 23:02:52 -!- Guest38432 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:37:53 Box of beasts and tome of destruction still have a pointless unidentified name (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4368) by Tonfa 23:42:04 03dolorous * r759742682743 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monspeak.txt: Add more monster speech fixes: capitalization and unneeded blank lines. 23:56:04 03dolorous * re3eb8cb355e1 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monspeak.txt: Add still more monster speech fixes: unneeded blank lines and unused "VISUAL:". 23:58:03 03dolorous * r4b09d4e5dbeb 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/monspeak.txt: Properly capitalize starting @foe_god@ in monster speech.