00:09:05 <Henzell> Unstable branch on crawl.akrasiac.org updated to: 0.10-a0-131-g3e011c9 (32)
00:15:37 <Ashenzari> Hill Orc Invocations Aptitude (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4355) by Wensleydale
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00:36:10 <Syraine> Er, bug in trunk...
00:36:44 <due> OH NO! ;)
00:36:53 <due> not too surprising; what is it?
00:37:09 <Syraine> -laughter-
00:37:13 <Syraine> The old one with stash.lua.
00:37:20 <Syraine> It might be me, though.
00:37:35 <Syraine> If there's armour you can't equip on the ground, it throws an error.
00:38:48 <Syraine> One moment, I'll disable mouse input and copy it here -
00:39:44 <due> Hm, weird.
00:40:11 <due> Pastebin would be preferred, also.
00:40:23 <Syraine> It's only a line.
00:40:37 <due> oh ffs
00:40:40 <due> yeah
00:40:49 <due> damn it.
00:41:03 <due> it's a one-second fix but i don't have access to do it
00:41:06 <due> give me two seconds
00:41:12 <Syraine> mm
00:50:49 <due> okay
00:52:26 <CIA-34> 03due * rada3990f112f 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/lua/stash.lua: Hopefully resolve #4353: it.subtype is now a function.
00:53:10 <due> Syraine: hopefully fixed! sorry, that was my bad.
00:53:24 <due> i forgot to check to see what was using subtype to see how its change impacted it.
00:53:38 <due> also, that is a temporary fix. i am going to revert hat part of the patch tonight and re-do it as a secondary function/attribute
00:59:17 <Syraine> Due: Got it. I think Galehar made the same mistake before...
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01:33:42 <Syraine> Due: still not working /:
01:34:20 <elliptic> syraine: CDO doesn't update every hour
01:34:24 <MarvinPA_> it will be-
01:34:25 <MarvinPA_> yeah
01:34:26 <MarvinPA_> that
01:34:27 <elliptic> or CAO
01:34:30 <Syraine> mm
01:34:48 <Syraine> I know that
01:35:02 <due> are you playing locally or online?
01:35:42 <Syraine> I am playing online, otherwise the question would be redundant.
01:35:44 <Syraine> =o
01:38:23 <MarvinPA_> it looks fine to me, anyway
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01:40:17 <Syraine> ffs
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01:44:07 <CIA-34> 03bstriegs * r48ec7c93a52a 10/crawl-ref/source/aptitudes.h: Increase hill orc invo apt to +2
01:44:07 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA * r5721e2330165 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson3.des: Tidy up the tutorial fixes a bit
01:44:08 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * rf292ecfb43ee 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson3.des: Tidy up the tutorial fixes a bit
02:01:12 <Ashenzari> Zin's Recite checks if the victim worships an evil god twice (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4356) by Thasero
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02:44:04 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA * rd321c7f112c9 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Fix recite checking for evil gods twice (#4356)
02:44:04 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA 07stone_soup-0.9 * r219e5d47cbf7 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Fix recite checking for evil gods twice (#4356)
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05:11:15 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever.
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06:04:23 <ion> Lua error: ...l-master/crawl-git-3e011c9f1a/data/dat/lua/stash.lua:67: attempt
06:04:25 <ion> to concatenate field 'subtype' (a function value) x2
06:04:35 <Syraine> It'll update soon
06:04:38 <due> ion: it's fixed
06:04:41 <due> let me kick CDO
06:04:42 <ion> Alright, thanks
06:04:43 <due> or is this CAO?
06:04:45 <ion> CAO
06:04:48 <due> ah
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06:17:12 <cbus> hello
06:17:20 <Syraine> 'lo
06:17:25 <Syraine> decided to fix yourself dinner
06:17:32 <cbus> yeah
06:17:40 <cbus> are spiked club and giant spiked clubs no longer always generated as +0?
06:17:41 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Hi all.  Where can I make a feature request?  I've looked at the brainstorming pages, but still not sure at all how to submit a request/idea.
06:18:02 <Syraine> Randart spiked clubs and unique-generated spiked clubs break limits...
06:18:11 <Syraine> For instance, type ??12 club
06:18:47 <cbus> normal GSC spawned with Ogres and hill giants?
06:19:24 <Syraine> +0/+0
06:19:28 <Syraine> or less
06:20:12 <dpeg> Euph0ria_MuWiz: what type of FR is it? Ideally, find the proper wiki page and add it there.
06:20:33 <cbus> dpeg, hello
06:20:38 <dpeg> oh, a cbus
06:20:56 <cbus> yes!
06:21:01 <ghallberg> A wild cbus appears!
06:21:12 <cbus> check messages on #crawl I recall sending you a funny message :)
06:21:13 <Syraine> Yes. If it's an in-depth feature request, write it in the wiki and the developers will look at it. Then they'll refine it and submit it as an implementable, to be made (theoretically, although a great many *are* within a relatively short space!) by whoever has time for it.
06:21:44 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Some spell ideas regarding fire/ice skills.
06:22:06 <dpeg> cbus: I looked at the recursive demonologist madness :)
06:22:12 <cbus> haha yeah, funky stuff ):
06:22:16 <Syraine> =D
06:22:18 <Syraine> it was so good
06:22:18 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> I guess I don't know how to make a wiki submission. :(
06:22:22 <dpeg> Euph0ria_MuWiz: oh, there surely is a spell wiki page
06:22:25 <cbus> dpeg, theres a 6d bot now
06:22:26 <Syraine> i added a learndb for it
06:22:28 <cbus> dpeg, 6d blitz
06:22:29 <Syraine> on blue death[2]
06:22:33 <dpeg> cbus: 9x9?
06:22:36 <cbus> 19x19
06:22:41 <dpeg> oh
06:22:43 <cbus> or 4-5d in slower games
06:22:49 * dpeg feels all empty inside
06:22:51 <dpeg> got a link?
06:22:53 <cbus> nope :(
06:22:53 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> I'm sure there is, and I've browsed through them.  I just don't know how to properly submit.
06:22:56 <cbus> but its playing 24/7 on kgs
06:23:06 <cbus> zen19sd
06:23:07 <cbus> är something
06:23:09 <Syraine> Just make a page.
06:23:14 <cbus> they are running it with multiple settings
06:23:19 <cbus> but they all are named like zen19
06:23:32 <dpeg> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:magic:new_spells
06:23:34 <dpeg> tke this on
06:23:38 <dpeg> Euph0ria_MuWiz: ^
06:23:40 <cbus> logging in on phone to give details :)
06:25:02 <cbus> dpeg, http://gosensations.com/index.php?id=2&server_id=1&new_id=1158
06:25:14 <cbus> dpeg, android client doesn't get active game list but heres one of the bots playing
06:26:26 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Ok, I'm going to make an attempt at a wiki submission.  Be gentle if I screw it up.
06:27:39 <dpeg> Euph0ria_MuWiz: I will look at it and can re-edit, if necessary
06:27:46 <dpeg> just churn out good spell proposals :)
06:27:50 <ghallberg> Euph0ria_MuWiz: It's ok, none of us understand the wiki eithet :)
06:27:55 <dpeg> back to work
06:28:01 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> lol Thank you.  :)
06:28:05 <cbus> dpeg, btw, great work on crawl
06:28:09 <cbus> dpeg, feels fresh :)
06:28:15 <due> minty fresh!
06:28:17 <cbus> dpeg, still don't like the trap doors though ;)
06:28:18 <dpeg> hey, thanks
06:28:48 <dpeg> could've culled all traps in 0.2 or 0.3 ... now it's too late, gotta go with them
06:29:31 <cbus> dpeg, starting to think that the first quaffid of !oMut feels like maybe it shouldn't give full effect
06:29:34 <ghallberg> dpeg: cbus: What do you think is wrong with traps?
06:29:35 <cbus> or something
06:29:36 <cbus> or be gentle to the player
06:29:40 <cbus> ghallberg, trap doors not traps
06:29:52 <ghallberg> shafts?
06:29:54 <cbus> copy of nethack trap doors and are generally just annoying and makes the game boring
06:29:57 <cbus> yeah
06:30:05 <ghallberg> I'd agree with that
06:30:15 <cbus> and I'm still strongly opposed to hidden doors/teleport traps in labyrinths
06:30:24 <cbus> not sure that hidden doors are in there but I know tele traps are
06:30:28 <ghallberg> Never ran into any of those but yea
06:30:34 <cbus> but other than that crawl feels nice and fresh :)
06:30:39 <cbus> especially the fixing of uniques
06:30:40 <due> I'm only aganist axe traps.
06:30:45 <cbus> due, blade traps? :D
06:31:01 <dpeg> yes, the weapon traps are problematic: either trivial, or a source of unfun deaths
06:31:04 <cbus> don't think I've seen axe traps, whats special about them? like blade traps?
06:31:19 <cbus> dpeg, I died in crypt once because of a blade trap doing like 70 damage
06:31:20 <due> !lg ktyp=~trap
06:31:32 <Sequell> 6. bookofjude the Sneak (L2 SpNe), killed by triggering a dart trap on D:1 on 2010-02-14, with 72 points after 996 turns and 0:02:52.
06:31:35 <due> Hm.
06:31:36 <due> !lg ktyp=~trap -2
06:31:36 <Sequell> 5. bookofjude the Frost Mage (L12 MuIE), worshipper of Sif Muna, killed by triggering a hand axe trap in a Labyrinth on 2009-08-26, with 25145 points after 40665 turns and 2:25:21.
06:31:41 <due> --^
06:31:54 <cbus> due, can you see damage taken or hp after trap hit?
06:32:43 <due> !lg ktyp=~trap -2 x=hp,mhp,dam
06:32:44 <Sequell> 5. [hp=-7;mhp=79;dam=30] bookofjude the Frost Mage (L12 MuIE), worshipper of Sif Muna, killed by triggering a hand axe trap in a Labyrinth on 2009-08-26, with 25145 points after 40665 turns and 2:25:21.
06:33:02 <Syraine> Traps and Doors...
06:33:14 <Syraine> Maybe it should be given greater importance :S
06:33:22 <Syraine> No one uses Traps and Doors seriously, much like Evocations.
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06:33:37 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Ah darn it. Can't find where to make a new page.  I can edit pages (which are read only) easily enough.  lol
06:33:46 <Syraine> Log in.
06:33:53 <cbus> syraine, evocation is used by neme-chars
06:34:10 <Syraine> Apart from one god, yes.
06:34:14 <Syraine> I got distracted...
06:34:41 <Syraine> And in that case then, people do use Evocations up to Level 10 without the agency of decks...
06:34:57 <cbus> agency of decks?
06:35:27 <Syraine> Agency - agents perform tasks...
06:35:27 <cbus> does evocation affect wands?
06:35:46 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> I did login.  :)
06:35:47 <cbus> syraine, I dunno D train evo with the decks
06:35:54 <cbus> I train...
06:36:16 <Syraine> ...la
06:36:26 <Syraine> It's... useless after a bit :\
06:36:37 <Syraine> Like very high Stealth
06:37:30 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Can go to https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:magic:new_spells but only edit available and it's uneditable.  Don't know where to make a new page.  <sigh>
06:37:58 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Sorry folks.
06:38:58 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Oh the page says: Page locked  This page is currently locked for editing by another user. You have to wait until this user finishes editing or the lock expires.  Currently locked by: Anonymous Lock expires at: 2011-08-04 13:44 (6 min) This page is read only. You can view the source, but not change it. Ask your administrator if you think this is wrong.
06:39:43 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Maybe I just have to wait 6 mins... lol
06:43:17 <Syraine> you locked it
06:44:18 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> I locked it?  I wonder how on earth I did that...
06:45:15 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Sorry about that.
06:57:10 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> I think I did it.  lol  https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:magic:new_spells   Thank you!
06:57:35 <Euph0ria_MuWiz> Maybe not the best of ideas, but one of many brainstorms.
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07:24:44 <Syraine> due: I will eat you
07:27:32 <cbus> any plans to change St/Tm so that fulsome isn't in both starting books?
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08:06:02 <Henzell> doglar the Sneak (L2 VpAs)  (D:2)
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08:35:24 <Gretell> Letchik (L10 DSTm)  (D:9)
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09:48:00 <dpeg> Euph0riaX: sorry, the spells won't work :(
09:48:17 <Euph0riaX> Just some ideas.  :D
09:48:31 <Euph0riaX> Didn't really expect them to, but brainstorming is a good thing.
09:48:56 <Euph0riaX> Learned how to submit an idea at least.
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09:49:05 <Euph0riaX> Thanks to everyone who helped.
09:50:08 <dpeg> Euph0riaX: the problem is that Crawl's food clock is too lax rather than too strict. Your proposals all go in the direction of turning MP (a cheap resource) into food (also cheap, but at least limited).
09:50:12 <Euph0riaX> Where are the rejected ideas moved?   I'd hate to submit an idea that has already been rejected.
09:51:27 <Euph0riaX> I was just thinking about starvation as a sprig.  lol  I know it's probably a matter of tactics though to overcome that though.
09:53:16 <Eronarn> it's extremely difficult to starve as a spriggan
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12:32:15 <Ashenzari> level_target preserved between games (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=4357) by dtsund
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15:44:10 <aristid> is this ethlodiol's branch? http://gitorious.org/~fdiebold/crawl/fdiebolds-crawl
15:44:47 <aristid> edlothiol i mean
15:44:59 <edlothiol> yes
15:45:07 <edlothiol> but it will not give you chrome 14 support
15:45:20 <edlothiol> for that, you need a current tornado version from git, see https://github.com/facebook/tornado
15:45:22 <aristid> sorry for the question being mixed between two channels
15:45:37 <edlothiol> I was just about to answer you on ##crawl ;)
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15:45:55 <aristid> ##crawl is terribly busy
15:46:03 <aristid> have a hard time following anything there
15:46:13 <edlothiol> yes
15:46:53 <aristid> so i've forwarded the info to the guy who runs the server. thanks, i hope it'll work
15:47:08 <aristid> would main branch with git-tornado also work?
15:47:43 <edlothiol> yes, my crawl repository just includes some additional bugfixes
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15:48:25 <edlothiol> so have you actually managed to set up a server? it's ... not very documented currently ;)
15:49:59 <aristid> no, my friend did
15:50:24 <aristid> but i'm the one who uses chrome 14
15:51:35 <aristid> edlothiol: he even integrated it with his own IRC bot, actually
15:52:54 <edlothiol> that sounds great
15:54:04 <aristid> he's the kind of programmer who can use bash while avoiding race conditions ;)
15:56:03 <edlothiol> btw, while my repository includes some not yet merged fixes for webtiles, the crawl version is not that up to date, so it may actually be better to use the main repo
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16:10:01 <aristid> edlothiol: OK.
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16:30:34 <due> edlothiol: do you have commit access to crawl-main?
16:30:41 <edlothiol> no
16:30:46 <due> hm.
16:35:30 <aristid> edlothiol: why did people recommend that i ask you specifically?
16:35:43 <due> aristid: for webtiles?
16:35:49 <aristid> due: yes
16:35:50 <due> aristid: webtiles is edlothiol's baby :)
16:35:52 <edlothiol> because I wrote webtiles
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16:36:36 <aristid> edlothiol: cool
16:37:16 <aristid> edlothiol: your usage of eval on websockets is a curious design decision, but i love webtiles :)
16:37:50 <ion> O hai, aristid.
16:38:36 <aristid> hey ion
16:38:56 <aristid> edlothiol: my friend wants to know if you know of any other private webtiles installations
16:39:51 <edlothiol> no, I don't... yours is the first I hear of :)
16:40:08 <edlothiol> or rather, your friend's
16:40:45 <aristid> edlothiol: he complains that he had to fix some small bugs before it would work
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16:41:20 <aristid> i guess he didn't really complain, he just noted it :D
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16:41:55 <edlothiol> then it'd be good if he reported them ;)
16:41:55 <Christoph_> hi
16:42:05 <Christoph_> aristid: what did I notice?
16:42:26 <aristid> Christoph_: some context:
16:42:30 <aristid> aristid> edlothiol: my friend wants to know if you know of any other private webtiles installations
16:42:30 <aristid> [23:39:50] <edlothiol> no, I don't... yours is the first I hear of :)
16:42:30 <aristid> [23:40:08] <edlothiol> or rather, your friend's
16:42:30 <aristid> [23:40:45] <aristid> edlothiol: he complains that he had to fix some small bugs before it would work
16:42:46 <Christoph_> thanks
16:43:28 <Christoph_> yeah, I had to create an empty mysql database for the user registration. I didn't find any code that would create it automatically
16:44:17 <edlothiol> ah, yes... that's because that was written pretty much specifically for the already existing dgamelaunch installation on cdo ;)
16:45:02 <Christoph_> I just looked at what fields the server expected and created a table with all string fields
16:45:07 <aristid> haha
16:45:08 <Christoph_> CREATE TABLE dglusers ( username STRING, email STRING, password STRING, flags STRING, env STRING );
16:45:11 <edlothiol> I should write down somewhere what's necessary for running the server
16:45:29 <Christoph_> internally sqlite treats everything as STRING anyway as far as I'm aware
16:45:38 <aristid> sqlite? mysql?
16:45:40 <Christoph_> sqlite3
16:45:51 <due> mmm sqlite3<3
16:46:01 <Christoph_> I think the only exception is an integer primary key
16:46:05 <aristid> edlothiol: you use sqlite3 on the public server?
16:46:23 <edlothiol> yes, as mentioned, it shares the user db with dgamelaunch
16:46:37 <aristid> that's just the user db tho?
16:46:41 <edlothiol> yes
16:46:51 <Christoph_> another thing I had to change was the where file
16:46:57 <Christoph_> I mean the parsing
16:47:02 <aristid> sqlite3 is awesome, but it doesn't like a lot of concurrent users ;)
16:47:16 <Christoph_> because chardump.cc seems to write the where file in a different format than what server.py expects
16:47:28 <edlothiol> CDO doesn't have "a lot" of users in that sense ;)
16:47:59 <Christoph_> I had some strange LUA errors after I tried offering version 0.8 and 0.9 on the same webtiles server
16:48:01 <aristid> edlothiol: for login, it doesn't matter if you have a few milliseconds more latency, i think
16:48:14 <edlothiol> yes, there's a daemon on CDO which does the where file parsing
16:48:21 <Christoph_> no one wanted to play 0.8 though, so I just removed that
16:48:34 <Christoph_> I assume I did something wrong there, so it's probably not a real bug
16:48:38 <aristid> Christoph_: didn't Plasmo explicitly request 0.8 at first?
16:48:45 <Christoph_> aristid: yes, he changed his mind
16:48:56 <aristid> .oO(füsiker)
16:48:59 <Christoph_> I had to compile 0.8 with the 0.9 tileset though
16:49:07 <Christoph_> or funny things would happen
16:49:18 <due> really? that seems odd.
16:49:34 <Christoph_> the webserver only seems to serve one tileset version
16:49:43 <due> Ahh.
16:49:52 <edlothiol> well, it can serve multiple ;)
16:50:42 <edlothiol> there's a subfolder in static/ and templates/ named game. rename that to something version-specific, and adapt client_prefix in the game settings
16:51:35 <Christoph_> oh, I see
16:51:45 <Christoph_> I was wondering what client_prefix was good for
16:51:48 <edlothiol> I should write all that down
16:52:11 <aristid> edlothiol: but until now, nobody wanted a private webtiles server, eh?
16:52:15 <edlothiol> it's just that so far, CDO was the only webtiles server, so I could just explain everything to Napkin ;)
16:52:19 <edlothiol> exactly
16:52:24 <Christoph_> also I didn't figure out exactly how crawl locates its dat files and saves folder
16:52:47 <aristid> edlothiol: it's a lot of fun to be slain by the ghosts of people you know, and compete with them in the highscore :)
16:53:16 <Christoph_> maybe that was part of my problem, because maybe crawl-0.8 was messing with the dat or saves data of 0.9 or vice-versa
16:53:56 <Christoph_> edlothiol: but is it true that server.py expects a different file format for the where file than what chardump.cc generates?
16:54:02 <aristid> or better yet, if my ghost kills Christoph_. that's best.
16:54:08 <edlothiol> Christoph_: yes
16:54:29 <aristid> edlothiol: why?
16:54:31 <Christoph_> edlothiol: OK, so I read that part of the code correctly
16:54:39 <aristid> edlothiol: wouldn't expecting the same format make sense?
16:54:50 <Christoph_> the new where file is better in many ways (I assume)
16:54:52 <edlothiol> because CDO has a daemon which does all the parsing
16:55:06 <Christoph_> the file format server.py expects looks like it didn't contain a lot of information
16:55:28 <aristid> edlothiol: oh, so that is supposed to save work. heh
16:56:01 <edlothiol> basically, yes
16:56:02 <aristid> Christoph_: how did you write the converter?
16:56:13 <Christoph_> aristid: I changed server.py to parse the new format
16:56:27 <aristid> Christoph_: was that a lot of work?
16:56:32 <edlothiol> probably not
16:56:33 <Christoph_> the code is not very good because I don't know many python idioms
16:56:36 <Christoph_> aristid: no
16:56:39 <Christoph_> a few lines
16:57:34 <aristid> Christoph_: kinda hoped that you would write an elaborate Parsec parser ;)
16:57:44 <edlothiol> Christoph_: maybe you could submit a patch for that
16:57:50 <Christoph_> no, it's horrible because I don't know python
16:57:55 <Christoph_> not good, that is
16:58:00 <Christoph_> http://codepad.org/pYhMGKDH
16:58:08 <Christoph_> there should be a better way to do it
16:58:09 <aristid> Christoph_: you could put your code on gitorious/github anyways :)
16:58:21 <aristid> btw. gitorious sucks
16:58:22 <Christoph_> aristid: I said before the repo has >200MB
16:58:23 <aristid> :P
16:58:44 <aristid> Christoph_: so? edlothiol has a fork on gitorious, too
16:59:44 <edlothiol> ok, it could probably be done better ;) I'll save it anyway and have a look at it when I've got time
17:00:11 <Christoph_> I would love to see a better way, then I can learn something
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17:01:34 <Christoph_> oh right, related patch: http://codepad.org/MiVCWWEN
17:01:42 <Christoph_> then it looks just like on the public webtiles server
17:03:26 <Christoph_> I noticed that the public server also shows the level and race, but server.py doesn't
17:03:35 <Christoph_> it's only a cosmetic thing of course
17:03:57 <edlothiol> hm, that's based on an older version, isn't it? I fixed the second line
17:04:11 <Christoph_> it's based on the tagged version 0.9-b1
17:04:30 <edlothiol> hmm
17:04:39 <Christoph_> I have some other patches in between
17:05:17 <edlothiol> oh, yeah, that was actually not yet merge
17:05:41 <Christoph_> well, one patch: add access control to the main page
17:06:03 <edlothiol> what do you mean by access control?
17:06:09 <Christoph_> user/password prompt
17:06:18 <Christoph_> I didn't secure the websocket itself
17:06:22 <Christoph_> only the html interface
17:06:30 <Christoph_> I used apache for that with mod_proxy
17:06:56 <edlothiol> ah, ok
17:07:09 <Christoph_> so apache does the user/password thing and server.py simply checks that all http requests come from localhost
17:07:25 <Christoph_> it's not very secure because the websocket itself is still open
17:08:02 <Christoph_> basically, it's only supposed to prevent search engines from indexing it
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17:11:11 <Christoph_> pretty much the only reason I set up this server was so I would only meet ghosts from people I know and also that it's not ridiculously hard to get into the highscore list
17:11:25 <Christoph_> so far it all worked well
17:12:30 <edlothiol> that's great ;)
17:13:17 <Christoph_> in fact, it was easier to set up the webtiles server than I expected :)
17:13:57 <Christoph_> the only thing that is still puzzles me is how you run webtiles with crawl-0.8 on the public server
17:14:13 <Christoph_> the 0.8 I found in the git repository didn't seem to have any webtiles support
17:14:16 <edlothiol> there's a webtiles-0.8 branch in my repository
17:14:26 <Christoph_> oh, I guess that explains it :)
17:15:43 <Christoph_> I tried to rebase all webtiles-related commits onto the 0.8.1 tag
17:15:56 <Christoph_> it actually worked better than I thought it would
17:16:03 <Christoph_> hurray for git
17:18:04 <Christoph_> I don't know if that's relevant, but another cosmetic patch I did was http://codepad.org/NPDwZfnI
17:18:27 <edlothiol> hm, that's actually a good idea
17:18:28 <Christoph_> it draws stairs in the correct color on the webtiles minimap instead of the generic MF_FEATURE color
17:31:30 <edlothiol> some other minimap features also don't get the right color, like doors, branch entries and lava
17:32:24 <edlothiol> the minimap feature choice is implemented in a pretty hacky way anyway because the client currently doesn't have feature data
17:32:44 <Christoph_> yeah, I saw the comment
17:32:52 <Christoph_> it's using the tile data instead
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17:39:45 <aristid> it would be cool if it was possible to remap z to y, btw
17:42:26 <ais523> AceHack and UnNetHack can do that already; in Crawl, you can macro z and y to each other, that might do what you want
17:43:10 <MarvinPA_> you can rebind keys in your config, if that's what you mean?
17:43:58 <MarvinPA_> with "bindkey = [key] CMD_WHATEVER"
17:45:35 <ais523> ideally, you want to swap z and y just for movement and casting, not for other purposes (like inventory lists)
17:45:41 <ais523> that's why I thought macroing might work better
17:45:57 <ais523> (German keyboards have y and z swapped, which can make vikeys controlling difficulty)
17:46:35 <MarvinPA_> bindkey should work for that, then
17:47:16 <aristid> MarvinPA_: i mean on webtiles :)
17:47:30 <edlothiol> you can do that on webtiles
17:47:40 <MarvinPA_> right, you just put that in your config
17:47:41 <aristid> edlothiol: but then it's global for the server?
17:47:46 <edlothiol> no
17:47:55 <aristid> oh?
17:48:36 <aristid> edlothiol: but i need to ask the admin to edit the config for me?
17:49:37 <edlothiol> hm, I see rc file editing is not yet merged
17:50:45 <edlothiol> he could try cherry-picking https://gitorious.org/~fdiebold/crawl/fdiebolds-crawl/commit/f7c3d298e2139658755cbda2a30264f481a2b8f7
17:50:52 <edlothiol> or yes, you would have to ask him
17:51:04 <edlothiol> on CDO, you can click on (edit rc) to edit your config file
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17:52:36 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA * rddcd8a6fbe06 10/crawl-ref/source/transform.cc: Make Xom transformations uncancellable (#171)
17:52:46 <CIA-34> 03MarvinPA * r795523945f46 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-goditem.cc: Don't cancel Sage or Bargain with antimagic, do cancel some other missed durations
17:54:06 <aristid> edlothiol: cool feature
17:55:25 <aristid> which options would i have to set to set movement (diagonal left/up) to Z?
17:56:59 <MarvinPA> "bindkey = [z] CMD_MOVE_UP_LEFT" i think
17:57:11 <MarvinPA> docs/keybind.txt has a list of the names of all the commands you can bind
17:57:13 <edlothiol> best take a look at dvorak_command_keys.txt in the crawl settings folder
17:57:41 <edlothiol> it redefines the vikeys for dvorak layout, so it's a good guide
17:59:08 <aristid> yeah, found it
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22:08:33 <Gretell> Khashishi (L20 HaCK) ASSERT(item.base_type == OBJ_MISSILES || item.base_type == OBJ_WEAPONS) in 'xom.cc' at line 1050 failed. (Elf:5)
22:09:31 <elliptic> !lm * crash -log
22:09:31 <Sequell> 1342. Letchik, XL10 DSTm, T:13855 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.8/Letchik/crash-Letchik-20110804-133521.txt
22:26:30 <CIA-34> 03dolorous * r76edca9b2cb7 10/crawl-ref/source/xom.cc: Don't let Xom try to brand OBJ_STAVES-type staves with chaos.
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