00:00:33 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9-a1-150-gd92f786 (32) 00:05:06 -!- due has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:10:26 -!- elliptic has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:13:05 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 00:13:11 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:18:02 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9-a1-150-gd92f786 00:21:09 -!- due has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:10 -!- due has quit [Changing host] 00:21:10 -!- due has joined ##crawl-dev 00:21:29 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 00:28:42 -!- Uncrawl_ has quit [Quit: okay bye] 00:33:26 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36:55 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:38:42 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 01:52:59 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:20:39 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:20:47 -!- Wensley_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:21:41 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:53 -!- Wensley_ is now known as Wensley 02:36:41 Zeliboba the Cleaver (L13 HOPr) (Lair:3) 02:37:37 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:57:21 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:58:21 Zeliboba> You destroy the plant! You have gained Spellcasting skill! 02:58:28 ^ very bizarre 03:03:27 indeed 03:03:29 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:10:04 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:15:00 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:21:50 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:15 -!- ZorbaGama has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:29:30 -!- ZorbaGama has joined ##crawl-dev 04:32:35 Yacc (L1 HOBe) (D:1) 04:33:42 !seen napkin 04:33:42 I last saw Napkin at Sat May 14 21:49:57 2011 UTC (1d 11h 43m 45s ago) saying or should i revert it? on ##crawl-dev. 04:35:00 galehar: You now have mantis admins right? The user RamiroRoberts just spammed the wiki, could you mute them? I would but cant login to the mantis from this machine. 04:36:13 the dev wiki? 04:37:50 aye 04:38:00 i revert the change already 04:45:36 I downgraded him to viewer 04:53:04 TheMICu (L13 MiBe) (Lair:5) 04:55:20 -!- blackpenguin has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:57:23 -!- blackpenguin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:08 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:43 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:56:44 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:57:29 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:30 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:59:52 -!- Khaki has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:44 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:17:15 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:18:19 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:26 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS Development | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:18:43 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 06:21:08 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:22:07 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:06 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:47 -!- Guest39942 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:34:06 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 06:34:32 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest55595 07:02:15 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:34 Able to Apport items behind iron grates (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3991) by lingerstink 07:47:14 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:00:54 -!- ZorbaGama has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:54 -!- ZorbaTHut has joined ##crawl-dev 08:14:51 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27:01 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:27:31 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:56:20 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:03:15 jaruokki (L16 MuWz) (D:17) 09:15:39 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:00 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:17:02 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:20 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 09:22:36 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23:37 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:36 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:24:40 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:27:21 nago (L27 NaTm) ERROR: range check error (52 / 52) (Elf:5) 09:30:31 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:32:45 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:28 Puck (L4 KoGl) (D:3) 09:41:22 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Quit: Computer went to sleep] 09:41:51 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:54 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Client Quit] 09:50:37 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 09:53:16 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:20:50 Gah, lost 4 days of unpushed commits from netbook issues. 10:21:50 push more often :P 10:59:20 -!- ophanim has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 10:59:24 -!- ophanim1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:58 shop prices are crazy. sword of jihad is in a shop for 32000 gold 11:10:58 yeah, i took a look at how item values get figured out, was hoping to make things a bit more sensible 11:11:14 wasn't really sure where to start though 11:11:30 since basically everything would need changing :P 11:12:04 I wonder how high you could get the prices 11:12:21 by making an uber artefact 11:12:23 MarvinPA: a good first step would be looking at what the max reasonable amount of gold in a game is, and not pricing anything reasonable above that point 11:13:47 ??sword of jihad 11:13:47 sword of jihad[1/1]: +12,+10 long sword of holy wrath, berserkitis, rN+, MR, EV+3, and stealth-. Before being identified, it will appear as a crystal sword. Upgraded to a eudemon blade in 0.8 trunk. 11:14:13 I can see why a computer would think that that artifact was insanely good 11:14:19 nice 11:14:27 well eudemon blade has a high base value 11:14:33 then it gets multiplied by lots for holy wrath brand 11:14:42 then it gets multiplied by lots more for the high pluses 11:15:33 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:16:11 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:18:13 -!- Guest55595 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:18:27 !learn edit sword_of_jihad s/long sword/eudemon blade/ 11:18:27 sword of jihad[1/1]: +12,+10 eudemon blade of holy wrath, berserkitis, rN+, MR, EV+3, and stealth-. Before being identified, it will appear as a crystal sword. Upgraded to a eudemon blade in 0.8 trunk. 11:18:46 !learn edit sword_of_jihad s/ Upgraded to a eudemon blade in 0.8 trunk.// 11:18:46 sword of jihad[1/1]: +12,+10 eudemon blade of holy wrath, berserkitis, rN+, MR, EV+3, and stealth-. Before being identified, it will appear as a crystal sword. 11:18:48 hassujoe (L1 FeSt) (D:1) 11:19:02 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:19:14 I totally would have bought it and converted to Ash if it was buyable 11:21:55 the whole system seems pretty awkward, archmagi multiplies the value of an item by 100 but since that only shows up on robes which have a really low base value, robe of the archmagi is still way too cheap when unidentified 11:22:10 er, identified* 11:22:25 likewise resistance or whatever 11:23:22 probably it's best to use a mix of multipliers and flat additions 11:23:34 which is why you get plate mails of magic resistance costing thousands and thousands of gold, and robes of resistance costing a few hundred :( 11:23:45 right, well it does that currently 11:23:50 but obviously just not very well :P 11:24:01 like rF+ should be worth a certain amount regardless of what you find it on, and then multiply the base value of the item by something 11:24:18 since having rF+ at all is valuable 11:24:35 but also rF+ should add more to good armor than bad armor 11:25:14 well, there you have the problem that robes are good armour and chain mail is bad armour, despite their pricing saying otherwise :P 11:26:32 i think dpeg planned on taking a look at item pricing at some point, anyway - i guess it's a prerequisite for the gold god idea at least 11:27:22 -!- Pedjt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:27:27 could be easy enough to do some minor tweaks for now though, make wand charges worth more and such 11:28:09 MarvinPA: chain mail and the like should be priced higher than robes... but not very high at all 11:28:13 since it's totally mundane 11:28:35 i don't think anything other than rare base items should be over 100 gold 11:29:42 in armour's case maybe, yeah 11:30:02 -!- Pedjt has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:08 plate mail costs a lot considering how common it is from monsters 11:30:30 whereas dragon armour and stuff can and should certainly cost lots 11:32:29 yeah, dragon armor / cpm should count as innately magical 11:32:35 also demon weapons 11:33:20 though i do think randart dragon armors are a bit overpriced right now since randart armor is so crap in general 11:49:24 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:09:00 Autoexplore/pickup of sharp weapons (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3992) by argonaut 12:09:56 WTF, I removed that... 12:10:43 -!- ghallber1 is now known as ghallberg 12:11:17 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:35 wow, webtiles has 22 spectators in one game lol 12:26:18 woops wrong room 13:22:43 -!- Khaki has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:25:12 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:51 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 13:35:42 Bubblyj (L2 DSFi) (D:2) 13:56:11 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 14:22:54 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:36:03 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 14:43:56 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 15:06:53 -!- ophanim1 is now known as awayanim 15:30:41 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:54:35 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 15:55:21 Can't see (%) in skills menu (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3993) by Astarotte 15:57:44 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:53:03 -!- awayanim is now known as ophanim 16:58:48 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:35:55 Range test inconsistent for weapons of reaching (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3994) by rriegs 17:58:40 -!- OG17 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:02:30 03galehar * rbf24cf648e00 10/crawl-ref/source/ (stash.cc stash.h): Search: when showing stash content, only show items matching the search. 18:02:34 03galehar * r2257ac7386fc 10/crawl-ref/source/ (delay.cc directn.cc godpassive.cc itemprop.cc itemprop.h): Ashenzari don't warn about not branded items carried by monsters. 18:02:38 03galehar * rbf2385473452 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Fix warning prompt for expiring form when move is impossible (#3988). 18:07:28 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:17:31 erm, my shoals has entry onto island with nothing but an upstair 18:18:21 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:25:43 zannick: you usually need to levitate or wait for the tides to go down to travel through shoals 18:26:12 -!- ghallberg has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 18:27:05 yeah, i levitated across 18:28:41 -!- ghallberg has joined ##crawl-dev 18:31:49 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:31:59 !tell napkin could we have a god column on the online player status? 18:32:00 galehar: OK, I'll let napkin know. 18:32:11 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:45:39 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:52:10 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:22:30 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 19:23:00 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:26:40 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:41:33 FIX: feat_is_statue_or_idol is wrong for swamp_tree, endless_lava (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3995) by rriegs 19:50:34 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:16:11 03kilobyte * r0a83370c5dfe 10/crawl-ref/source/ghost.cc: Allow ghosts to use Petrify. 20:16:21 03kilobyte * r7c11992ab8a8 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/float.des: Typo. 20:16:22 03kilobyte * r628cc57bdb09 10/crawl-ref/source/ (8 files): Remember the trap type in map_knowledge. 21:02:44 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 21:03:32 -!- herself has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:04:20 -!- herself has joined ##crawl-dev 21:20:04 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:12 -!- herself has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 21:32:27 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 21:32:57 -!- herself has joined ##crawl-dev 21:43:40 -!- purge has quit [Quit: .] 21:47:00 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22:35 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 23:05:18 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]] 23:11:05 -!- ophanim has quit [Quit: Leaving.]