00:03:03 Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9-a1-135-gabba48c (32) 00:18:46 Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9-a1-135-gabba48c 00:20:44 -!- ZChris13_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:24:29 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:24:40 -!- ZChris13_ is now known as ZChris13 00:32:09 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:39:58 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 00:43:04 -!- ophanim has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:13:36 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:22:12 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]] 01:22:48 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:48 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:33:06 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:50 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:02:47 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:10:04 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:10:15 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:20 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 02:14:35 hey 02:18:08 hiii 02:37:13 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 02:37:39 -!- Zannick has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:37:55 -!- Zannick has joined ##crawl-dev 02:38:16 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 02:44:57 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:48:56 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 02:51:23 !time 02:51:24 Time: May 13, 2011, 07:51:24 AM, UTC. The 2011 0.8 tournament starts in 16 hours, 8 minutes and 35 seconds. 03:09:38 -!- evilmike has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:15:00 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:19:03 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 03:21:12 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 03:22:43 why kraken tentacles are marked as stationary? 03:30:10 because thhey're moved manually, i believe 03:30:13 rather than via ai 03:30:18 well, rather than directly with ai 03:33:56 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:38:37 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 03:49:16 ok, thanks 03:51:06 it's something like that though -- it's to prevent them from moving on their "own" 03:51:59 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:54:00 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:02:18 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:06:43 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:55 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:21:47 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:22:25 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:20 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 04:37:08 -!- xyblor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:37:23 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:02:35 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:05:49 -!- xyblor_ has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:07:37 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 05:23:22 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24:22 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 05:28:15 -!- Uncrawl has quit [Quit: okay bye] 05:33:53 -!- Uncrawl has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:16 -!- Zaba has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 05:46:16 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:47:01 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:01 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Please try out tiles online: http://crawl.develz.org/webtiles | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:48:28 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:52:22 Napkin: the webtiles repository is not mirrored on CDO 05:52:32 no, not at the moment 06:23:44 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:26:23 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:28:37 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 06:31:52 -!- Guest91921 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:14 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:44:21 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 06:58:36 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 07:01:00 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:01:22 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:03:53 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:31 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:09 bat is a boring name. Let's rename them to giant bats. 07:16:43 -!- xyblor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:01 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:18:49 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:19:09 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:04 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 07:24:45 Morning 07:27:35 Anyone have an opinion / knowledge as to why every form gets bonuses to hit (excluding pig form), I fail to see the connection with "all forms are better at melee combat than non-transformed players," furthermore, the bonuses are almost identical (maybe_random2(num [num ranges from 9 to 12]). 07:28:38 no idea. But since they already have great damage, they don't need an accuracy boost on top of it. 07:32:39 -!- xyblor_ has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:33:25 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 07:33:28 galehar, that was my opinion, especially for all transformations (except maybe blade hands, but even then, the damage is pretty sick so not contributing to acc might not be a bad idea) 07:35:09 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:10 -!- elly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 07:41:26 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: No route to host] 07:41:32 -!- elly has joined ##crawl-dev 07:44:00 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:48:50 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:04:58 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:06:04 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:46 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:26 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:21:39 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:05 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:22:47 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 08:23:31 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:23:35 !won edlothiol 08:23:35 edlothiol has won twice in 18 games (11.11%): 1xHEIE 1xSpEn 08:23:48 second webtiles winner :D 08:24:02 no, I think Eleclight won, too? 08:24:05 !won Eleclight 08:24:06 Eleclight has won once in 25 games (4.00%): 1xMfCr 08:24:19 !lg Eleclight 08:24:19 25. Eleclight the Conjurer (L6 DrCj), slain by a slave (led by Pikel) on D:5 on 2011-05-12, with 680 points after 5041 turns and 0:19:10. 08:26:14 ah, third win then :) 08:26:49 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:37:56 -!- xyblor has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:38:31 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 08:50:58 -!- ais523_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:53:33 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:53:42 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:54:14 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:50 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:06:30 -!- ophanim has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:52 -!- elly has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:28:48 If I want to mail something on CRD, do I need to mail it to CRD or CRD-request ? 09:41:57 -!- elly has joined ##crawl-dev 09:45:48 Cryp71c: you always write to CRD directly, Cryp71c 09:46:07 but if you are not registered there, you will need for someone to approve the email 09:46:16 easier to register first 09:52:59 Napkin, k, that's what I did :P I figured 09:53:23 good :) 10:01:51 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 10:22:48 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:43:54 Warning message when detecting traps while flying (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3966) by LunarHarp 10:49:06 Napkin, will I get a copy since I sent it? 10:49:36 depends on how you configured it after sending 10:49:40 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:49:41 *after registration 10:49:51 but, registration needs approval too 10:51:25 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 10:51:28 -!- |eith| has joined ##crawl-dev 10:52:42 Napkin, well, I'm already registered, I've sent messages before, so..just waiting on message approval I guess. 10:53:33 and you used the correct email address as sender address? 10:53:47 then you are probably caught in the wonderful world of grey-listing ;) 10:53:52 aka wait 15 minutes 10:54:38 Napkin, when I registered? I think so. 11:10:39 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:12:19 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 11:14:16 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 11:25:05 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:28:09 03Cryp71c 07unified_combat_control * r50ed94da32ef 10/crawl-ref/source/ (attack.cc melee_attack.cc melee_attack.h): Merge mons_attack_you and mons_attack_mons into monster_attack 11:32:42 hmm, the Let's Play of Crawl (that I think was linked from the homepage once) has started up again 11:32:52 but the person doing it has refused to upgrade to 0.8, entirely because of Mennas 11:33:10 lol? 11:34:25 ais523: link anyway please 11:34:58 http://www.gamespite.net/talkingtime/showthread.php?t=8309 11:35:15 it was on hold for ages, a different LPer has taken over 11:35:18 and is just starting it up agan now 11:35:19 *agan 11:35:22 *again 11:35:29 (it was on the latest version at the time, 0.5, when it started) 11:35:56 damn it seems like 0.3 was just yesterday 11:35:58 time flies by 11:38:24 that LP thread is currently having a debate as to whether katanas still exist or not 11:38:38 you'd think that'd be easy enough to verify from the source... 11:40:45 has there been a screenshot DCSS LP that resulted in a win? 11:41:43 -!- ion has quit [Quit: moving hardware] 11:42:49 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:55 not that I know of 11:44:39 -!- joosa has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45:17 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:38 -!- ais523 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:52:13 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:41 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:00:19 -!- |eith| has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:01:20 -!- xyblor has left ##crawl-dev 12:19:55 Napkin, hrm, I've still not gotten the email I sent out. Still think I was grey-listed? 12:21:23 what was the topic of that email, Cryp71c? 12:22:45 Combat Rewrite Notes 12:22:51 then it arrived 12:23:04 ah k, I guess I won't get a copy since I sent it myself. Thanks! 12:23:07 and your settings prevent the email from reaching you 12:23:12 well, configure it, Cryp71c 12:24:21 go here, Cryp71c: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/crawl-ref-discuss 12:24:34 that link is kinda hidden from the sourceforge page 12:25:32 Napkin, I don't see anything on that site that would keep me from getting my own message. 12:26:07 well, did you click that button at the very bottom called "Unsubscribe or edit options" yet? 12:27:04 once you've logged in, there is an option called "Receive your own posts to the list?" 12:27:26 set it to "Yes" and don't forget the "Submit My Changes" button at the very bottom ;) 12:29:57 Napkin, yeah I wasn't in the right place, but the "Receive your own posts" was already at "Yes" so I'm not sure. In any case if you got it, I'm fine. 12:30:30 maybe it landed in your spam-folder? 12:30:55 but yeah - I received it about 5 hours ago 12:31:17 had I known the relation between Robert B. and Cryp71c - I would have told you earlier ;) 12:57:06 Napkin, hehe, np. 12:57:21 dead in here today 12:57:42 friday - seems people are just trying to get over with it ;) 12:57:55 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:58:59 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 13:11:30 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 13:11:45 I think this may be a felid bug -- Crazy Yiuf killed my felid and his weapon was identified to me 13:15:31 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2720 13:15:56 that's an old one. 13:18:24 I'll see about fixing it 13:30:24 ok. I think I got it 13:30:48 the death message is getting logged out before it checks if the player still has lives 13:38:37 miss. 13:44:16 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 13:45:29 -!- ais523_ has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:45:54 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:48:20 Stable branch on tiles.crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.8.0-151-ga56b52c (32) 14:20:58 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 14:32:40 Napkin, guess a bad day to send out CRD :P 14:32:49 hehe 14:32:54 patience :) 14:41:28 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:42:06 I haz none! 14:42:07 :) 14:44:12 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/webtiles-and-online-player-status 14:48:50 FR: Gold display on main screen. 14:50:00 ghallberg: show_gold_turns 14:50:16 upsy: Oh, so that's what it does :P 14:54:59 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:55:38 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 15:16:13 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:53 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:19:02 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:21:29 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:27:23 -!- Cryp71c_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:28:51 -!- Cryp71c_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:02 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:33:15 -!- Cryp71c_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:34:22 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:34:33 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:45:22 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:30 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:35 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:23 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:53:07 TheMICu (L3 MiBe) (D:2) 15:59:10 !time 15:59:19 Time: May 13, 2011, 08:59:19 PM, UTC. The 2011 0.8 tournament starts in 3 hours and 40 seconds. 15:59:56 strange starting time 16:00:42 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 16:00:48 you mean because it isn't the start of a month? 16:00:59 it starts at 00:00 utc 16:01:03 that's normal! 16:01:29 02:39 CEST == 00:00 UTC ??? 16:02:01 oh! SECONDS 16:02:18 bhaak: yes that was just adeon 16:02:24 and his finnish time 16:02:38 oh wait 16:02:49 ignore me :) 16:03:08 my detector plates are receiving large amounts of failure 16:03:13 * bhaak mumbles programmers and their inability to use dates sensibly 16:03:59 !time 16:04:11 Time: May 13, 2011, 09:04:09 PM, UTC. The 2011 0.8 tournament starts in 2 hours, 55 minutes and 50 seconds. 16:07:44 you just have to love online repositories: https://github.com/greensnark/dcss_henzell/blame/0a70b5b1c3b8c56379f74519b605ceb9c95bf230/commands/xtime.py 16:10:28 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:01 bhaak 16:30:13 Napkin 16:30:34 the point are the distributed scm repositories :D 16:31:09 of did you ever see a "check out now" button when subversion was the top of the art? ;) 16:31:24 *or 16:31:26 what? you mean they are not online to blame the programmer if they tried again to be too clever? 16:31:46 ;-P 16:32:06 because this you also could do with online subversion repositories :) 16:32:39 nobody would have put it in one though ;) 16:33:09 sourceforge has a "blame" option :) 16:33:25 they call it "annotate" IIRC but it's there :-} 16:33:46 hehe 16:36:07 the tournament should start at 0000 UTC+1 16:36:17 There is no true time other than the time at Greenwich. 16:36:25 pah 16:36:44 it should start at 0000 Bhaak Central Time! 16:38:50 I need to rally up my clan 16:40:33 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 16:43:38 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 16:46:06 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 17:09:57 I found something that might be a bug: Only the first artefact in each shop shows up when you search for "artefact" 17:10:15 Or hmm, that might be wrong... 17:10:32 it probably says something like 17:10:36 artefact (x3) 17:12:37 same with stacks, I believe 17:13:08 seems like reasonable behavior 17:15:48 yeah the only time I find its a problem is when you search for "lev" and you get the "young poisoner's handbook (x3)" and the item you want is hidden in there 17:16:32 and yes that actually happens :P 17:18:13 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:19:59 it's reasonable behavior, although sometimes it is a bit annoying 17:20:42 for example, there are times when I want to forget a spell, so I search for the spell name to see which books I can use to forget it, but all my books are in a pile in my stash 17:21:41 yes, most of the time, it would be more useful if the search returned a list of items instead of a list of stashes 17:21:43 but yeah, the ctrl+f is designed to find a location rather than a specific item, which is fair 17:22:32 galehar: I disagree, I prefer the current behavior usually 17:22:32 after playing nethack ctrl+f is awesome 17:22:39 we should add a toggle to switch between items and stashes. I'd make item the default unless your doing a level search (ie: D:2) 17:23:02 a toggle is a good idea but I would leave the current behavior default 17:23:25 we can also use an option for default but the toggle would be useful (and not trivial to code) 17:23:50 if it listed every item then that would usually just mean a lot of added clutter, I don't think you actually want that often 17:23:58 the current default is more useful for travel purposes 17:24:15 also for finding anything that isn't in your big lair:2 stash 17:25:15 there are alternatives that might be better than a toggle, actually... it would be sufficient if examining the stash kept the filters 17:25:37 that would be great 17:25:42 the level indicator would still be there in item mode. It's just that every item matching the search would be listed instead of just the top one 17:26:13 elliptic: great idea. And that's probably easier to code. 17:26:15 so you would search for something, see "young poisoner's handbook (+5)", press the keys to examine that stack, and then just see the six items matching the search instead of every item in that pile 17:33:22 -!- bmh has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:33:22 -!- Wensley has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 17:33:52 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 17:36:11 -!- Adeon is now known as adeon 17:36:52 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:36:56 -!- adeon is now known as Adeon 17:41:26 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 17:44:04 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 17:45:18 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 17:48:41 vandra (L6 DEWz) (D:5) 17:49:20 https://gist.github.com/971456 17:49:35 (Xom overflow altar, as patch) 17:49:58 !lm vandra type=crash -log 17:49:58 1. vandra, XL6 DEWz, T:5802 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.8/vandra/crash-vandra-20110513-224836.txt 17:50:11 webtiles... 17:50:16 -!- Hehfiel has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:29 bmh: are you supposed to be able to open more than one door? 17:52:47 kilobyte: Yeah. I don't see a point in prohibiting it. 17:57:30 -!- eith has left ##crawl-dev 17:58:41 !time 17:58:42 Time: May 13, 2011, 10:58:42 PM, UTC. The 2011 0.8 tournament starts in 1 hour, 1 minute and 17 seconds. 18:00:20 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:27 I kind of can't see what's the point in warnings on the doors then 18:02:43 it's a nice inversion to have the goat be the _good_ thing though :p 18:03:23 kilobyte: I guess I just want an auto-travel blocker so you don't accidentally unleash the jelly once you've cleared it 18:04:21 known bug in nettiles that with multiple spectators the names start to print over each other because there is not enough room? 18:07:39 yes 18:12:53 we have 7 spectators in one game because everyone keeps coming in to see why there are so many specs lol 18:20:30 03galehar * rb480a0fd77ef 10/crawl-ref/source/ (player.cc trap_def.h traps.cc travel.cc): Add an is_safe() method to trap_def. 18:20:30 03galehar * r8df6e7f64be7 10/crawl-ref/source/skills2.cc: Also show boosted skills in dumps. 18:20:30 03galehar * rd1c4d8764222 10/crawl-ref/source/ (misc.cc mon-util.cc mon-util.h tilepick.cc): Fix tentacles being considered safe. 18:21:44 cia is back? 18:21:47 cool :) 18:23:36 * kilobyte hugs CIA-60 18:23:36 * CIA-60 hugs kilobyte 18:23:47 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 18:24:38 Fix tentacles being considered safe. @ http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=d1c4d8764222df75a2d594303aac0b81f46e04a5 (by Raphael Langella ) 18:24:38 Also show boosted skills in dumps. @ http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=8df6e7f64be757496acd00c6e294ccef8e2d3474 (by Raphael Langella ) 18:24:42 Add an is_safe() method to trap_def. @ http://git.develz.org/?p=crawl.git;a=commitdiff;h=b480a0fd77ef138fdf98198f2bb99dd70673d1fc (by Raphael Langella ) 18:25:53 :/ 18:25:57 this one is too spammy and brings no new information 18:26:02 cia is more discreet 18:26:05 -!- edlothiol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:26:55 if you wanted the diff, there are three fast ways already 18:27:12 the URL is likely to wrap, too 18:27:49 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 18:27:58 who runs uncrawl? 18:28:39 (is it bhaak) 18:31:22 Added a few handy Lua-callable functions (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3967) by rriegs 18:31:42 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:32:36 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:34:02 -!- Wensley has joined ##crawl-dev 18:35:54 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:37:21 -!- edlothiol has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:55:00 -!- casmith789 is now known as megabat 18:55:18 -!- megabat is now known as megabat789 18:59:49 -!- galehar has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:10:24 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 19:12:02 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:21:15 the crawl "speedrun" bot is cool in theory but kind of annoying to be used online 19:21:21 especially in the tournaments 19:22:56 It is a ruling we should probably make for August. 19:25:51 rax, what was that delay -1 option? 19:27:56 I don't remember where it is in the options file offhand, and logging in to look woul dbe counterproductive. But there's a delay in moves in autotravel, and by default it shows like ten frames a second or something, and setting it to -1 just doesn't draw the intermediate frames at all. 19:28:06 Better for ttyrecs, bandwidth, and lag limitation. 19:28:22 It used to be the default; I may silently configure it when the load is down a bit. 19:29:02 yeah, I remember how I never used to see the intermediate frames when autoexploring, playing local for the first time was quite a shock :P 19:30:51 I've used -1 for a long time and actually prefer it now 19:31:19 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31:20 although it gets weird sometimes when you autotravel and the server lags 19:31:33 it looks like the game locked up for 5-10 seconds 19:32:21 according to the options guide, you need to set both explore_delay and travel_delay to -1 19:38:23 -!- megabat789 is now known as casmith789 19:39:08 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 19:52:44 rax: Do we not already have a "no bots during tourney" rule? 19:53:17 We do not. 19:53:56 Hm. 19:54:14 Should we? I dunno. 19:55:51 I mean, if so, we'd have to come up with some reasonable definition for bots. I don't think we want to ban all lua. 20:02:02 "Automatic or mostly unassisted play"? 20:03:22 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:05:07 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:53 it's sort of an interesting spectacle, and definitely draws attention to the tournament, but if it's causing undue stress on the server then restricting its use seems reasonable. but yeah, a workable definition might be hard to come by 20:09:09 might need to just be a sort of good-faith rule 20:10:47 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 20:20:28 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 20:35:24 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 20:38:31 -!- lorimer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 20:42:48 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 21:32:50 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:37:08 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 22:05:54 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 22:09:39 I just encountered the error where you enter Zot, and you appear on Zot Level 28. Is this a known error that has been entered into Mantis? I couldn't find it, but I'm almost sure I read about someone else having the same problem somewhere. Maybe on a Tavern thread? 22:11:35 I've heard of it before, I think it's on the mantis but I can't be sure 22:12:00 Do you remember how to find it? I looked up "Zot" and didn't notice anything right away, but I just skimmed it. 22:12:32 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 22:12:43 I don't suppose there's a fix, incidentally? 22:13:00 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3927 22:13:04 go up until you find zot 5 :D 22:15:01 Sounds like an adventure! I just didn't know if it would crash out irrecoverably if I started going up. 22:15:23 OK, I'll work my way up. Thanks! 22:22:03 so...whose fault is square halo? :P 22:22:40 Zannick: where? 22:22:52 0.8 cao 22:23:20 Huh. 22:23:34 Sure you're not playing EroCrawl? 22:23:46 i have circle los 22:24:20 odd 22:24:23 Game selected: Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup 0.8.0 22:25:29 zannick: that's technically a circle in the euclidean metric because 2*sqrt(2) < 3 22:25:54 yeah, i figured 22:26:02 it was doing other circle approximations as it grew 22:26:04 oh, what size is it? 22:26:12 it just looks silly with circlelos 22:26:14 2x2 22:26:18 yeah 22:26:19 er, 5x5, centered on me 22:26:25 circlelos looks silly if you think about it too much :P 22:26:26 small haloes look a bit odd currently 22:33:54 Going up to Zot "26" crashes on me. Guess that's a game down the drain... Ah well. 22:39:11 due: there's a pretty easy fix for that 22:39:17 i made a branch for it, you should check it out 22:40:02 Twilight-1: local or CDO? 23:46:13 er, haha. 23:46:23 i moved off my starting staircase and it was noted that i found a staircase out 23:57:12 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 23:57:38 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest35263 23:59:28 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]