00:01:49 <Gretell> Unstable branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-a0-323-gc7d0e26 (32)
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00:13:01 <Gretell> Windows builds of master branch on crawl.develz.org updated to: 0.9.0-a0-323-gc7d0e26
00:13:06 <Ashenzari> Freezing cloud text reads "out of range" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3898) by Gilihad
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04:54:03 <kilobyte> MarvinPA: <3 dump_message_count
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06:16:56 <ion> I wish autofight avoided excluded areas.
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07:13:33 <Napkin> is xomscumming a bot?
07:13:47 <Napkin> and moin guys!
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07:22:16 <Ashenzari> Crash finishing tutorial (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3899) by Mental Mouse
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07:29:57 <Cryp71c> Morning
07:30:02 <Cryp71c> Silly bus didn't have Wi-Fi :(
07:50:58 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: you in yet, by chance?
07:56:41 <CIA-45> 03Cryp71c 07unified_combat_control * r77b712376b5f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (attack.h fight.cc melee_attack.cc melee_attack.h): Undo revert, fix a variable mistyping, misc changes
08:01:04 <kilobyte> Cryp71c: meow?
08:01:59 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: I had to force-push unified_combat_control but did so in a manner that's cut some commits off master -_-
08:02:11 <Cryp71c> You were the last person to make any commits, according to CIA-45.
08:02:18 <Cryp71c> Can you force push them?
08:08:48 <kilobyte> force-pushing meant there were commits that you had unmerged
08:09:38 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: I force-pushed the combat rewrite because I had back'd HEAD up a commit, cutting off the revert I did yesterday or the day before.
08:09:47 <Cryp71c> I just did it in a poorly formatted way.
08:09:55 <Cryp71c> Which force pushed both master and my branch.
08:10:07 <Cryp71c> I'm really sorry, I didn't intend for it to happen, obviously..I just was careless.
08:10:17 <kilobyte> ouch, _master_
08:11:42 <Zao> </3 git
08:11:47 <kilobyte> ah, I see.  You didn't introduce any incompatible commits but forced it to go back.
08:12:15 <Cryp71c> Correct
08:12:32 <Cryp71c> I'm told that git push origin $hash:master will fix it.
08:12:33 <kilobyte> Zao: eh?  git protects you from doing that, requiring an explicit force if it detects something is wrong
08:13:00 <Zao> Out of all the VCS systems I've used and abused, Git is the one I've ruined the most reposes with :D
08:13:12 <Zao> (snugly followed by Mercurial)
08:13:27 <Cryp71c> Gits fairly protective, when problems exist in the tree, its from a user's doing.
08:13:29 <kilobyte> Zao: if you want to do something risky, it allows you to
08:14:04 <kilobyte> and when doing risky things, there's reflog which keeps every single state you had for three months
08:14:06 <Zao> kilobyte: I don't want to start a debate about it, but I find that it's very hard to find the Right Way to use Git, without having experience doing all the Fun Mistakes personally.
08:14:24 <Zao> Especially with previous brain damage from SVN and P4.
08:14:32 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: thanks <3 will be more careful.
08:15:56 <kilobyte> no problem, it might be a bit too easy to force things.  That's why SourceForge disabled forcing completely (leaving a delete+repush backdoor).
08:18:20 <kilobyte> I see: you rebased or amended commit dc95d143 (Revert "Externalize...), replacing it with 77b71237 (Undo revert, fix a variable...)
08:18:40 <Cryp71c> yes
08:19:43 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r57d622063467 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/branches.txt: Makeshift descriptions for unfinished branches.
08:19:43 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r199e348f42ec 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/database/godspeak.txt main.cc): Let Lugonu explain to Abyssal Knights what they're supposed to do.
08:19:43 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r84417ff40d60 10/crawl-ref/source/util/gen_ver.pl: Don't show hashes in versions that fit an exact tag.
08:19:43 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rf8867c99da28 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/temple.des: Make the grass greener in a vault.
08:19:43 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * re146c5cc0a7b 10/crawl-ref/docs/ (034_changes.txt obsolete/034_changes.txt): Move 0.3.4 changes to obsolete/
08:19:44 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * re5ddd780d954 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/des/builder/uniques.des mon-spll.h): Enable Ignacio.
08:19:44 <CIA-45> 03jcuffe * rf8ff9ed5f269 10/crawl-ref/source/l_you.cc: Added Lua hooks for player's burden and max_burden
08:19:45 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r1bf0e18ab2d4 10/crawl-ref/source/shopping.cc: Don't mess with the shopping list during post-mortem.
08:19:45 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * rc038912a24ff 10/crawl-ref/source/ (monster.cc player-act.cc): Make player/monster "extra balanced" checks check against SIZE_LARGE.
08:19:46 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * rea30b76e340f 10/crawl-ref/source/book-data.h: Resort the spells in the Book of Fire in ascending order by level.
08:19:49 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r2c703faabec9 10/crawl-ref/source/ (artefact.cc artefact.h spl-book.cc wiz-item.cc): Don't use random excursions for randarts.
08:19:49 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rd548d421a4bb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (artefact.cc dat/database/randname.txt): Split the db query for random armour name into robes, body armour and the rest.
08:19:59 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rc705943826dd 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Fix Pan walls being usually same as floor.
08:19:59 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rd4fa0a47a68d 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/pan.des: Axe the axe in pan_surprise.
08:20:00 <CIA-45> 03MarvinPA * r97907384f52e 10/crawl-ref/settings/menu_colours.txt: Show equipped artefacts as the same colour as other equipped items
08:20:03 <CIA-45> 03MarvinPA * rc7d0e2698fad 10/crawl-ref/docs/options_guide.txt: Update the options guide
08:20:04 <CIA-45> 03MarvinPA * r4586510fd62b 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Increase the default dump_message_count
08:20:05 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rbea2e0e990a6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Give the robe of misfortune, robe of folly and Lear's chain mail random appearance.
08:20:06 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r739b116d1f4c 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/database/randname.txt: A set of appearances for unidentified randart robes.
08:20:07 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * red698ef8c756 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Remove an obsolete hack to hide "runed" artefacts.
08:20:08 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r0f6afe6bffab 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Set the signature weapon flag for Ignacio and DDAr.
08:20:09 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * rdf2b6aa16ada 10/crawl-ref/source/ (item_use.cc player-act.cc): Remove redundant body_size() parameters matched by the default value.
08:27:48 <kilobyte> Zao: in SVN, if you do a mistake, the only way is dumping the whole repository to a text file (including binaries!), editing it and re-importing.
08:28:40 <kilobyte> in git, it is what forced pushes are for
08:31:24 <Cryp71c> What other revision control systems maintain a full history on each local checkout of a repo?
08:31:40 <kilobyte> woh... the new commit email thingy in crawl-ref-commits kicks ass.  So much better than what SF had...  There's a nice explanation of what happened.
08:31:51 <Cryp71c> (I know SVN only maintains the current @Head on the local system, and searching for other changes / going backwards has to go out to the server"
08:32:00 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: where can I signup for that/
08:32:45 <kilobyte> the "crawl-ref-commits" mailing list (still on SF, but the mails are sent from CDO)
08:32:51 <kilobyte> there are archives somewhere, lemme find them
08:34:31 <kilobyte> https://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=crawl-ref-commits
08:41:28 <Cryp71c> Was the actual crawl project on SF closed out?
08:44:42 <kilobyte> no, we still use it for stable downloads and mailing lists
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08:57:00 <doy> Cryp71c: all distributed ones do
08:57:06 <doy> darcs, mercurial, bzr, etc
08:58:26 <Cryp71c> doy: gotcha, so its only SVN that's so old that it precurses that concept, or does it lack it just because its not intended to be a distributed revision control system?
08:58:44 <doy> the second
08:59:01 <kilobyte> doy: uhm?  I am pretty sure only git allows editing history to any large degree.
08:59:16 <kilobyte> so reflog is kind of pointless elsewhere
08:59:22 <doy> kilobyte: Cryp71c just asked which ones maintain a full history in local checkouts
09:00:12 <kilobyte> "history on ... checkout".  We parsed that sentence differently :p
09:00:18 <doy> (:
09:00:27 <kilobyte> ("history of the checkout" vs "history of the repository")
09:05:53 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: anyways, thanks again on fixing that. Looks like I have a fairly good foundation of stuff done, I think. Some of the code can probably be improved down the road, but its looking and playing pretty congruent pre-rewrite, afai can tell.
09:08:13 <kilobyte> with brand-new shiny bugs! :)
09:08:24 <Cryp71c> kilobyte: have you noticed anything?
09:08:30 <kilobyte> (but seriously, it was a mess that deserved to be nuked from orbit)
09:08:32 <Cryp71c> Or are you just meaning, in general.
09:08:56 <kilobyte> no, I didn't look beyond running arena stress tests a couple of days ago
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09:16:48 <Cryp71c> k
09:28:07 <Napkin> hey, interesting email about 0.9.0-a0-301-g9bbe62b
09:28:13 <Napkin> did something go wrong there?
09:29:36 <Napkin> ok, read backlog
09:29:39 <Napkin> happens :)
09:53:21 <Cryp71c> Napkin: was that my force push that cut off part of master?
09:54:06 <Napkin> yeah
09:54:10 <Napkin> didn't see that yet
10:29:53 <Napkin> *such email yet
10:30:46 <Cryp71c> Napkin: so "interesting email about 0.9.0-a0-301-g9bbe62b" was or was not in reference to me cutting commits off master inadvertently?
10:31:18 <Napkin> it was
10:31:31 <Napkin> look at it
10:31:47 <Napkin> interesting message inside
10:32:54 <Napkin> you are registered to c-r-c, right, Cryp71c?
10:34:49 <Cryp71c> I just registered this morning, so no, let me check the archive.
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11:52:40 <Cryp71c> I return, Ubuntu 11.04 and all.
11:55:16 <Wensley> so with Cryp71c and ghallberg getting the chance to submit their first patches, is there any chance I can join in on this party and get my own (incredibly unobtrusive, one-line-of-code) patch some dev love? https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3858 :)
11:58:19 <Cryp71c> Wensley: I'm already a dev, but ...yeah :) I'll take a look at your patch in a bit if no one else has had a chance by then.
11:58:55 <Wensley> oh okay, sorry :P galehar said it looked cool, but I haven't seem him around recently
12:00:45 <Cryp71c> I'm at work, care to type up a brief synopsis until I get a break?
12:01:14 <Wensley> I'll just paste what I wrote in the mantis: Creatures with the bleeding status are now guaranteed to stain any tile they occupy for the duration of the effect. The bloodstains do not spatter and do not trigger smell_alert. Primarily just a cool minor addition for when you're chasing or kiting around a bleeding creature, e.g. megabats and fleeing snakes.
12:03:07 <Wensley> as far as the code itself, all it does is add a single invocation of the "apply bloodstain" code every time the counter on the bleeding brand decrements (which is every round)
12:03:36 <ophanim> Is there anyone around who can answer a lua question about items.equipped_at?
12:04:21 <Eronarn> Wensley: make it trigger smell_alert, not much reason not to
12:04:36 <Wensley> Eronarn: you told me not to!
12:04:38 <Wensley> :)
12:04:56 <Eronarn> huh? what i said was with regard to an extra-gore option
12:05:07 <Eronarn> i said that adding extra-gore would have gameplay effects
12:05:26 <Wensley> that's fine, just need to change a single boolean
12:06:21 <Cryp71c> Wensley: I'm about to commit and apply this, what boolean gets changed for the smell_alert?
12:06:54 <Wensley> I added a comment just above the line of code that details the invocation, but let me pull it up anyway
12:07:59 <Cryp71c> I got it, its the last boolean passed in.
12:08:10 <Wensley> right, you got to it just before I did
12:11:40 <Cryp71c> there, in trunk. It'll show up here soon by CIA-45.
12:12:27 <CIA-45> 03Cryp71c * r5fc236cb1ccd 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Mantis 3858 - Wensley's "bleeding" addition
12:12:55 <Cryp71c> There ye be!
12:13:15 <Wensley> I feel all warm and fuzzy inside :) and then my change wiped the repository, and all other repositories
12:17:01 <Eronarn> Wensley: now you get to be added to contrib.txt, if you want
12:17:38 <Wensley> I don't know if adding a single line of code is really all that noteworthy :P
12:18:16 <Wensley> at least wait until I implement this cool idea that I had: it's these orcs made of lava whose temperature raises with tension, also they have machine guns
12:18:48 <Ashenzari> Message about items in shop being found (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3900) by qui
12:20:01 <Wensley> I feel like more gods should have their own bots... Yred to announce crashes, Zin to announce bugfixes, etc.
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12:23:49 <Ashenzari> Crash "ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc'" (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3901) by tempest
12:27:53 <Cryp71c> we have crash reporting, but it doesn't have its own bot.
12:28:40 <Cryp71c> Bug fix announcements would only serve to remind us how infrequently we're fixing bugs compared to new ones being reported, we </3 depression.
12:31:15 <Eronarn> i have a bot mostly written except i need a bit more work to finish it
12:34:41 <Cryp71c> What for?
12:48:22 <Wensley> to make sigmund update his twitter account every time he gets a kill, I'm guessing
12:52:17 <Eronarn> nope, better
12:52:32 <Eronarn> donald
12:52:48 <Wensley> !lg * killer=donald s=name
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12:53:08 <Eronarn> if someone kills donald, donaldbot will start haunting them
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12:53:32 <Sequell> 91 games for * (killer=donald): 4x mafalda, 2x MarvinPA, 2x faerogue, 2x Reluctant, 2x Solvent, 2x Eronarn, 1x mitsilvan, 1x Eb, 1x Kenlaan, 1x AlienAlias, 1x Nexos, 1x bjorken, 1x cyborgemu, 1x splat, 1x polystyrus, 1x Eli, 1x tyl, 1x Tossi, 1x spriseris, 1x renegade44, 1x fakechuck, 1x coweater, 1x NightChaos, 1x Negativman, 1x saren, 1x mars, 1x spunky, 1x IanDavid, 1x oxeimon, 1x Ryak, 1x dlk,...
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13:05:00 <gvdm> which source file do i dig through if i want to investigate weapon damage (and brands, eg flame freezing)
13:05:58 <Cryp71c> gvdm: fight.cc, have fun.
13:06:02 <Cryp71c> Its notoriously disgusting.
13:06:25 <Cryp71c> gvdm: if you tell me what you're trying to find out, I'm probably familiar with the functions that contribute to it.
13:06:48 <gvdm> what damage do flame and freezing brands add
13:06:54 <Cryp71c> For monsters, or players>
13:07:01 <gvdm> players
13:07:26 <gvdm> lemme get some source familiarity too, point out line numbers as you find them
13:09:25 <gvdm> 3244-3255?
13:10:16 <gvdm> and then look in the defenders expose_to_element?
13:11:37 <Cryp71c> Sorry, got tied up w/ work for a sec. apply_damage_brand will setup the damage brand for damage and defender->expose_to_element probably applies the damage.
13:13:18 <gvdm> doesn't look like it, all it seems to do is check if cold and slow down if cold blooded
13:15:12 <Cryp71c> gvdm: the additions it makes to "special_damage" is the brand damage that gets applied elsewhere.
13:15:28 <Cryp71c> defender->expose_to_element appears to do other (irrelevant) stuff, based on a cursory glance.
13:15:54 <gvdm> yep, no adding of damage in that
13:16:23 <gvdm> calc_elemental_brand_damage??
13:17:20 <gvdm> random2 does what?
13:17:24 <gvdm> ??random2
13:17:25 <Henzell> random2[1/1]: 1dN - 1
13:17:47 <gvdm> ok, so 50% extra?
13:18:01 <gvdm> adjusted for resistances
13:18:14 <gvdm> lemme know if i came out right
13:18:48 <Cryp71c> gvdm: 2115 looks like the line where special damage is applied for players vs monster
13:20:03 <gvdm> but the damage is calculated in calc_elemental_brand_damage first?
13:20:25 <gvdm> and sets it at special_damage = resist_adjust_damage(defender, flavour, res, random2(damage_done) / 2 + 1);
13:20:39 <gvdm> which to me says, 50% extra adjusted for resistances
13:20:48 <gvdm> 2261
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13:22:30 <gvdm> umm, dropped, whats the last thing you heard from me?
13:22:43 <gvdm> but the damage is calculated in calc_elemental_brand_damage first?
13:22:45 <gvdm> and sets it at special_damage = resist_adjust_damage(defender, flavour, res, random2(damage_done) / 2 + 1);
13:22:47 <gvdm> which to me says, 50% extra adjusted for resistances
13:22:49 <gvdm> 2261
13:23:27 <gvdm> have i got it right?
13:23:45 <gvdm> and 2115 is where the damage gets applied, hmm?
13:24:03 <MarvinPA> i thought it was 25% extra adjusted for resistances
13:25:16 <MarvinPA> hmm
13:25:35 <gvdm> MarvinPA: well, i've stated functions and line numbers i found , please correct me
13:25:49 <MarvinPA> yeah, i'm taking a look
13:29:37 <MarvinPA> oh right yeah, sorry
13:29:47 <MarvinPA> it's random2(damage_done)
13:30:02 <Cryp71c> gvdm, apply_damage_brand actually calculates the damage of each brand (whatever value is assigned to special_damage), for fire / ice brands, they are adjusted based on resistances using the calc_elemental_brand_damage method.
13:30:28 <Cryp71c> gvdm: then, whatever value that's stored in special_damage is carried along through all the rest of the fight logic until execution gets to line 2115, where the special damage is actually applied.
13:30:34 <MarvinPA> so it averages out to 25% of damage
13:31:21 <MarvinPA> (but could be between 0 and 50% extra)
13:31:22 <gvdm> sorry, wheres it get halved the second time?
13:31:23 <Cryp71c> ??holy brand
13:31:23 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled holy_brand in my learndb.
13:31:28 <Cryp71c> ??holy wrath
13:31:29 <Henzell> holy wrath[1/1]: Increases damage by 75% on average against undead and demons. These folks also cannot wield it. Does not hate evil creatures which are not undead or demons. This means that holy wrath is ineffective against hell knights, and some worshippers of evil gods can wield it.
13:31:38 <gvdm> oh, right, i see
13:31:47 <MarvinPA> since random2(damage_done) is a random number between 0 and damage_done - 1
13:31:48 <gvdm> on ave, 25%, up to, 50%
13:31:53 <MarvinPA> then that's divided by two
13:31:59 <gvdm> gotcha
13:32:28 <MarvinPA> yay for confusing die rolls everywhere :P
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14:20:29 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * rc4833ebdb661 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Fix indentation.
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14:44:40 <Keskitalo> New Linley game preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VibgHnbA-1Y
14:48:19 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * ree24d4bd172d 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile.obj: Sort makefile.obj
14:48:28 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r70564e22346b 10/crawl-ref/source/startup.cc: Fix unbounded recursion on holding '?' on the startup screen.
14:48:29 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r69f58376b697 10/crawl-ref/source/startup.cc: Mark not loadable saves in red.
14:48:30 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r53ad5ca12adb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (files.cc files.h startup.cc): Offer to delete incompatible saves.
14:48:31 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * r3a53de700a19 10/crawl-ref/source/ (files.cc player.h tag-version.h tags.cc tags.h): Make the chr chunk forward-compatible, so the save browser can view all games.
14:48:31 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rd5ef3a3e1222 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files): Properly handle saves whose name doesn't match the character.
14:48:34 <CIA-45> 03kilobyte * rb09af68e6c80 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files): Simplify save file name logic now that uids are gone.
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16:58:24 <CIA-45> 03galehar * re697ad69f52f 10/crawl-ref/source/art-data.txt: Change the Spriggan's Knife from a knife to a dagger.
16:58:25 <CIA-45> 03galehar * r9228690309bc 10/crawl-ref/source/ (5 files): Fix save compat.
16:58:26 <CIA-45> 03ghallberg * r8aee19c2b39e 10/crawl-ref/ (12 files in 4 dirs): Removed knives from the game.
16:58:27 <CIA-45> 03galehar * r1fbe1cbf3f43 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/mini_features.des: Remove generation of early uncursed knife.
16:58:34 <CIA-45> 03galehar * re8879050bbd2 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Replace knife by dagger in a few vaults.
16:58:36 <CIA-45> 03ghallberg * rbf67be9671a2 10/crawl-ref/source/food.cc: Removed need for sharp weapon when butchering.
16:58:38 <CIA-45> 03galehar * rf171c2715518 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-wanderer.cc: Fix wanderers getting only crap weapons.
16:58:38 <CIA-45> 03galehar * r7a125c307662 10/crawl-ref/source/ (delay.cc delay.h externs.h food.cc invent.h transform.cc): Better butchering messages.
16:59:03 <Eronarn> yaaay
16:59:18 <doy> yay
17:00:22 <galehar> as usual, it lacks any documentation :)
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17:35:30 <Gretell> xomscumming (L27 MuCK) ASSERT(you.wizard && !you.did_escape_death()) in 'xom.cc' at line 3836 failed. (Tar:5)
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17:52:23 <CIA-45> 03galehar * r6a74e912bc14 10/crawl-ref/source/ (enum.h mon-data.h): Add a fake giant monster to be used as a genus instead of hill giant.
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18:08:19 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * r79e28fe3a402 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add comment.
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18:12:32 <CIA-45> 03MarvinPA * r806b3e648315 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/orc.des: Guarantee the ogre mages in st_orc_ogre_mass to make it comparable to the other orc endings
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18:54:19 <CIA-45> 03dolorous * r1e30ecfc1b53 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc: Fix ogre hunters' not getting large rocks and nets.
18:57:23 <ghallberg> Wee my stuff went in!
18:57:41 <ghallberg> galehar probably did alot to fix it up though :D
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