00:04:14 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:39:50 !tell galehar https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:interface:combochoice#tgw_s_proposed_class_order has a much much nicer-looking proposal for class ordering 00:39:50 TGWi: OK, I'll let galehar know. 00:55:04 Closing without saving causes wierd things (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3566) by darkcrobat 01:16:59 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:20:20 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 01:51:48 new monster: darkcrobats 01:52:13 new monster: bats 01:52:33 new monster: lava bats 01:52:42 @??firebat 01:52:42 unknown monster: "firebat" 01:52:44 @??fire bat 01:52:44 fire bat (04b) | Speed: 30 | HD: 3 | Health: 6-15 | AC/EV: 1/14 | Damage: 304(fire:3-5) | Flags: sense invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(4), 05hellfire | Vul: 12cold | XP: 55 | Sp: flame tongue (3d6). 01:52:50 Eronarn: exists 01:53:13 due: those are fire bats, not lava bats. they're clearly different 01:53:22 we could convert them into lava 01:53:23 lava bats are Earth/Fire/Conj 01:53:36 :)) 01:53:37 (ps, did you hear that there's actually now a reasonably fleshed out lava orc proposal?) 01:54:19 no, i have been kind of snowed under 01:55:36 i might code them over the summer, i think i will have time 01:55:41 and as learndb says 01:55:43 ??lava orc[2] 01:55:43 lava orc[2/4]: If you're seeing a lava orc, that probably means you're in the orcish volcano vault (new in version .9) 01:55:47 ??lava orc[1 01:55:47 I don't have a page labeled lava_orc1 in my learndb. 01:55:49 ??lava orc 01:55:49 lava orc[1/4]: Similar to orc warriors, but they tend to have flaming weapons. Watch out for their throw flame attack! 01:55:53 ??lava orc[3] 01:55:54 lava orc[3/4]: Added as a playable race in Stone Soup 1.0. "Good at all professions," with particular aptitude in lava magic and cooking. 01:55:57 there we go 01:57:04 I'm watching akrobin and some yred wrath eidola were trying to cause fear but it was affecting monsters instead of the player 02:51:23 -!- evilmike has quit [] 02:55:45 -!- monqy has quit [Quit: hello] 03:30:05 Eronarn: they do half physical damage, so you can argue they're half Earth :p 03:30:21 (fire^Wlava bats) 03:31:01 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:43:23 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:45:08 -!- Kurper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:51:10 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 03:54:23 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:02 A spicing up of some ability descriptions, especially breathe x abilities. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3567) by darkcrobat 03:58:28 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 03:59:12 -!- ekiM has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:03:33 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:48 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:35:44 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:36:37 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:36:37 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:45:54 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:46:39 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:39 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 05:56:10 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:11 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:57:01 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:57:01 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:05:56 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:05:58 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:06:37 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:06:37 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please | Immortal Warwalrus and Crazy Yiuf forever. 06:36:53 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:56 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:57:01 -!- edlothiol has left ##crawl-dev 08:51:13 seems like the temple entry map temple_green is inaccessable in my game 08:53:25 actually no, it has secret doors... pretty bad anyway 09:03:13 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 09:04:57 Ah, the new class screen was suggested by the tavern. That explain it. 09:07:39 -!- valrus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:33:32 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:43 03dolorous * r916b54528ce4 10/crawl-ref/source/transform.cc: Add spacing fix. 10:28:06 Ice dragon hide typo (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3568) by NeckToChicken 10:36:16 03dolorous * r4bbfa1d9eb8f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc decks.cc): Fix inverted transform() logic for "You feel like a pig." messages. 11:02:16 03dolorous * r723e681af011 10/crawl-ref/source/ (religion.cc spl-data.h transform.cc): Implement Mantis 1496 (mostly). 11:03:47 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:35 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:43:29 antimagic weapons affect player invocations and evocations (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3569) by KiloByte 11:45:30 that's not really a bug is it 11:49:23 monster and player magic works completely differently 11:50:10 or are we pretending that monsters have mp even though everywhere else indicates they don't? 11:53:06 what if antimagic didn't affect player mp 11:53:10 and just debuffed success 11:54:59 that'd be interesting 11:55:52 monster magic is pretty broken, relying on dice rolls rather than AI 11:56:20 03kilobyte * rd23ca6f500f0 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/items.txt: Clarify the description of staff of enchantments. 11:56:31 03kilobyte * ra48c7465f032 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-cast.cc mon-data.h): Fix spells being unaffected by antimagic in some cases. 12:02:19 03kilobyte * r53324ded89d6 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Fix recite working through walls and squarelosish. 12:02:46 "fix" squarelos 12:04:05 yes, there are a few similar bugs, but subtlier than the recite one 12:05:37 isn't steam ball a smoke demon spell as well as a dragon breath? 12:06:36 ah, and aquamancers cast it too 12:07:50 -!- monqy has joined ##crawl-dev 12:08:22 oops, thanks 12:10:08 -!- Kurper has joined ##crawl-dev 12:13:39 Wrong tile for scroll of curse jewellery (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3570) by derrek 12:22:14 03kilobyte * r4544842b0823 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-cast.cc: Allow draconian breath under AM, don't allow steam balls for non-steam dragons. 12:22:25 03kilobyte * r3fc1cc2adb72 10/crawl-ref/source/ (target.cc target.h): Fix placing Fire Storm on a wall. 12:24:15 03dolorous * r9a32a1aabc0b 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/items.txt: Add wording fixes. 12:32:14 03dolorous * re9fcac11fe14 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc decks.cc): Revert "Fix inverted transform() logic for "You feel like a pig." messages." 13:21:15 omg @ amount of artefacts! 13:21:20 I like this! 13:32:06 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:43:35 seriously? I have average attack speed, average movement speed.. and Mennas Cast confuse on me and hits me twice with his blade? 13:47:48 what a ridiculous unique 13:53:17 Boris in Snake2, Mennas in Snake5.. is it necessary to make those panzer uniques spawn so early? 13:56:23 snake:5 isn't early 13:56:39 mennas is pretty ridiculous though definitely 13:56:57 you should be doing snake 5 about xl20 13:57:12 snake:5 is usually one of the last things I do before v:8 13:57:13 or higher. no point doing it earlier 13:58:58 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 14:03:06 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:13 Elven fighters don't start with elven scale mail. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3571) by elliptic 14:10:48 @??mennas 14:10:48 Mennas (15A) | Speed: 15 | HD: 19 | Health: 150 | AC/EV: 15/28 | Damage: 30, 20 | Flags: 08holy, spellcaster, see invisible, fly | Res: 06magic(202), 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 6578 | Sp: confuse, silence, minor healing. 14:10:50 @??angel 14:10:50 Angel (16A) | Speed: 15 | HD: 12 | Health: 82-121 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Damage: 25, 10 | Flags: 08holy, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(128), 10elec++, 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 2088 | Sp: minor healing. 14:10:53 @??shedu 14:10:54 shedu (16H) | Speed: 19 | HD: 13 | Health: 91-130 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Damage: 1908(holy), 2308(holy) | Flags: 08holy, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(52), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 3106 | Sp: heal other. 14:10:56 @??phoenix 14:10:56 phoenix (05H) | 04UNFINISHED | Speed: 19 | HD: 13 | Health: 91-130 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Damage: 1908(holy) | Flags: 08holy, fly | Res: 06magic(52), 03poison, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 2339. 14:11:40 @??pearl dragon 14:11:40 pearl dragon (08D) | Speed: 13 | HD: 18 | Health: 91-140 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Damage: 3508(holy), 2008(holy) | Flags: 08holy, sense invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(168), 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 08holy | XP: 5712 | Sp: holy breath (3d36). 14:12:03 note the speeds 14:13:13 some could be kept, some make no sense 14:13:58 angels are probably okish, though 14:24:18 -!- DrPraetor has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 14:26:31 03kilobyte * r2625a9397401 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc: Let player elves have elven gear (elliptic) 14:26:42 03kilobyte * r5b54327aa7e6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (effects.cc main.cc spl-book.cc): Delete a misleading comment. 14:39:22 Mixed up scroll icons (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3572) by golan2072 14:58:06 -!- Keskitalo has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 15:00:02 -!- st_ has quit [] 15:02:20 -!- evilmike has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:09 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:11:03 -!- Keskitalo has joined ##crawl-dev 15:15:51 -!- dovla has joined ##crawl-dev 15:17:16 I've had a crash and now my save isn't showing up, can anyone lend a hand? 15:18:28 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 15:25:05 dovla: on a server or locally? 15:25:16 local game 15:25:39 under ubuntu 15:25:42 0.7 15:26:56 is it the version shipped with Ubuntu, or built with sources? 15:27:00 s/with/from/ 15:27:27 I snagged the deb packages from Debian servers, they weren't in Ubuntu reps when I started playing 15:27:54 if so, your saves should be in ~/.crawl/saves/ 15:28:10 they are, but they're not showing up in-game 15:28:44 if you could send them my way, I can take a look. All the files named YourCharacter-uid.* -- if you're unsure, just pack the whole saves/ dir. 15:29:16 I don't guarantee it can be recovered, but it never hurts to try. 15:29:35 file over irc or? 15:29:59 could you attach it on Mantis? 15:30:17 sure, need to create a bug report or something? 15:30:34 yeah 15:31:07 ok, need to create an account and stuff, brb 15:31:27 or drop it onto some www server if you have one 15:33:25 I do but getting to that is actually more complicated than creating an account 15:34:48 you could try dcc, but I have yet to see it working (although the only two times I tried receiving a file it was from strange Windows clients) 15:38:24 03kilobyte * r75250538766a 10/crawl-ref/source/ (AppHdr.h command.cc main.cc wiz-mon.cc): Disable ghost creation/loading in wizard non-debug mode. 15:38:38 03kilobyte * r75cf88ab19e2 10/crawl-ref/source/wiz-item.cc: Fix a wizmode crash. 15:38:50 oh cool, I have a crash file too 15:38:58 kilobyte: what build it CDO running? 15:38:59 wait while I stick it in the zip 15:39:05 *is 15:39:56 what i'm asking is: will 75250538766a concern games on CDO? 15:40:33 here you go 15:40:33 yeah, but I see no way devs could possibly use that function without affecting normal players 15:40:34 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3573 15:40:56 i'm building with WIZARD=YesPlease and EXTERNAL_FLAGS_L="-g" 15:41:52 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:41:59 Hi dovla 15:42:05 hello 15:43:38 elliptic, casmith789: snake is usually the first rune I get.. in like every game.. never had such a tough opponent there yet 15:44:06 surely in 2/3s of your games 15:44:19 Napkin: creating a fake ghost to plant in on a server is not really a good idea (and if we really wanted, it can be done better locally and the ghost copied by hand) 15:44:42 Friendly monster caught in net trap infinite loop (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3573) by vladanr 15:44:58 ah, ok, i was just worried about the normal games - compiled with wizard but not having it active 15:45:28 yep, that's my bug 15:45:38 this change is to make sure people don't break their normal games by fooling around with wizmode 15:46:00 great :) 15:46:37 you'd have to knowingly compile this in (or make a debug build) which suggests you know what you're doing 15:47:37 "knowing what you're doing" sounds like it should be added to the docs ;) 15:53:00 dovla: it looks strange that parts of your save don't have uid in their filenames. I guess the Ubuntu package is configured this way, though. 15:53:42 dovla: anyway, the save loaded properly for me, but this might be because of a later fix. Could you try "crawl -name SLouchXLII" ? 15:53:57 or by typing the name on the name prompt 15:54:02 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 15:54:33 thanks for taking a look 15:54:59 I'm rather worried it will simply generate a new character if I pick the same name 15:55:05 this has happened before actually 15:55:17 if so, you have the save backed up :p 15:55:31 however, if the savegame works normally I should perhaps try reinstalling it 15:55:48 I think the problem may be down to my unusual way of installing the game in the first place 15:56:06 (getting .deb files from Debian servers before 0.7 made it to ubuntu reps) 15:56:22 shouldn't, dovla 15:57:01 why not Napkin? 15:57:37 because it's not such an unusual of installing a deb 15:57:43 you'd have to get pretty bad filesystem corruption for that to possibly make a difference 15:57:59 -!- Twilight13 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:58:38 I know but I figure there may be a dependency problem and I haven't added repositories either so the game isn't going to update either 15:59:19 nah 15:59:46 ERROR in 'fixedvector.h' at line 72: FixedVector out of bounts (17 / 17) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3575) by XuaXua 15:59:46 Crash (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3574) by golan2072 15:59:48 it would fail during startup -- and dpkg would complain when installing, too 16:00:14 #$%"! ubuntu STILL hasn't added 0.7 16:00:16 anyway, did trying to start without the save browser work? 16:00:30 -!- Guest25425 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:01:16 it's in "natty" 16:01:18 just a sec, digging through the system 16:01:36 yeah but natty is still in beta 16:01:38 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:14 Ubuntu don't generally change versions of software included in distro releases that have already been released, except bugfix versions of the software 16:03:59 well I was hasty and removed them, downloading debs again 16:06:11 Chei is going to put me under penance 16:06:56 a-ha, it loaded 16:07:23 just by selecting the same name, no matter the char wasn't listed under saves 16:07:51 save game now - maybe it will show up in the list now? 16:08:25 yep, already tried, works normal now 16:08:46 I suppose the bug report isn't a total loss as it did crash over the looping message? 16:09:10 we should relly do deb builds soon, kilobyte 16:09:17 maybe I have time tomorrow 16:09:57 that is a good idea, would be plenty helpful for linux-lite users such as myself 16:10:37 I like the way that nowadays you can build a deb but not an rpm without starting a holy war 16:12:02 ais523: building RPMs could be good too, but I have no clue about them 16:12:05 user bases shifted ;) 16:12:40 a monolithic package can be converted well with alien, my builds are split into crawl(-console), crawl-common and crawl-tiles though 16:13:18 what was the compile parameter again for a monolithic build? 16:15:11 he just got caught in the very same net and didn't crash this time 16:15:17 there's none 16:16:01 by "monolithic package" I meant one without any parts that depend on each other 16:16:19 ah ok, sorry 16:16:32 i meant a static build 16:17:20 you'd need static libraries, and these are not shipped with any distribution anymore. So you'd have to build everything yourself. 16:17:44 they are not in -dev packages anymore? 16:17:46 seriously? 16:18:19 what would you want them for? 16:18:33 to build static binaries, of course 16:18:43 what they have always been used for 16:19:52 Crash while auto-exploring with zombies following (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3576) by wesleyshaver 16:20:49 btw - what about LUAJIT? 16:21:07 should I enable that? 16:22:43 it's likely to make the program faster for pretty much no loss at all, unless it makes the file size much larger 16:22:51 a static binary is processor-dependent anyway 16:24:04 Anyway, thanks kilobyte, and you Napkin 16:24:16 :) 16:24:39 I better be off getting killed again 16:24:42 hey kilobyte? building with make TILES=YesPlease WIZARD=YesPlease NEED_STATIC=YesPlease BUILD_ALL=YesPlease USE_LUAJIT=YesPlease should give me "tool/tile.cc:8:23: fatal error: SDL_image.h: No such file or directory", right? 16:24:49 hehe, enjoy, dovla :) 16:24:49 Keep up the good work 16:24:57 ;) 16:25:00 -!- dovla has left ##crawl-dev 16:25:03 *should not give me 16:25:48 Napkin: sounds like your include path is set up incorrectly 16:25:59 of course it does ;) 16:26:48 gah, I'm in my "immediate advice upon build errors" mode without checking who I'm talking to 16:26:54 I knew you knew that... 16:27:09 but well, ok - tool/tilegen.elf which is only needed during build-time is not really required to build from contrib libs - but if should, of course 16:27:24 *it should 16:27:38 ais523 :) 16:28:15 sorry, I'm tired, I just spent two days writing a compiler from scratch because my boss wanted one 16:28:49 !coffee ais523 16:28:50 * Henzell hands ais523 a cup of irish coffee, brewed by Gastronok. 16:29:09 I don't drink caffeinated drinks, but thanks anyway 16:31:18 also, the line i posted results in "-Icontrib/install/include/SDL -Icontrib/install/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/SDL" 16:31:58 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 16:32:22 where is SDL_image.h actually? 16:32:30 it's in /usr/include/SDL for me 16:32:42 uhm, yes no 16:32:45 also source/contrib/sdl-image/SDL_image.h inside my Crawl repo 16:32:54 tilegen.elf had different includes 16:33:14 those last includes where from crawl itself 16:33:34 That reminds me... 16:33:40 * due goes off to do something sneaky. 16:33:45 which are ok, just not what i expected 16:33:50 moin due! :D 16:33:52 Napkin: does it need changing? 16:34:05 not sure yet - still testing 16:36:44 Hm, no dpeg. 16:45:59 Napkin: do you have a Debian repository somewhere? 16:46:23 i think 16:46:37 but i created it before the debs where signed 16:46:48 haven't created one since 16:47:00 but we can do it quickly 16:47:15 I mean, with proper uploads, signing and Packages file 16:49:07 not sure what you mean with "proper uploads" - it had a packages file, of course 16:49:19 but i may also have deleted it already 16:49:29 i was hosting centericq and exim/openssl for a while 16:51:11 but you generated it by hand, using dpkg-scanpackages and such, right? 16:51:19 (that's the feeling I get) 16:51:20 yes 16:52:35 but i removed it already 16:52:43 but i'd like to set one up 16:53:13 I use reprepro... but looking around, there are _9_ DAK-like tools 16:53:41 http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository 16:54:29 at a glance, it appears that reprepro fits what we need best... (and I have a basic clue about it) 16:54:45 sounds great 16:55:02 ERROR in 'fixedvector.h' (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3577) by Mychaelh 16:55:26 We really need a notice that says "FixedVector errors are not errors but symptoms of other errors" somewhere. 16:56:00 due: yeah, they're just a safer version of segmentation faults... 16:56:20 Is there a way we can provide more information when they happen, perhaps about the array that's out of bounds? 16:56:24 The index being accessed, etc? 16:56:55 due: I added it 16:57:03 Oh <3 16:57:06 all the reports seem to have 17/17 16:58:37 with macro hackery we could get the type of the array's elements 16:58:55 not sure if that's really useful, though 17:01:44 Napkin: could you install reprepro on CDO? I would then configure it. 17:02:34 can't reproduce this crash... and it's really popular now 17:02:37 remember - server is still lenny.. i can install 3.5.2-6 or 4.2.0-1~bpo50+1 17:02:47 backport one, I guess? 17:03:36 I can't recall when I upgraded the vserver that has mine to squeeze... but indeed, the backported one might be safer 17:04:20 * due backports Napkin to 1803! 17:04:27 * due wipes face. 17:04:29 :D 17:04:30 :-P 17:04:34 all of the crashes seem to be on Windows 17:04:54 well, I should really get started to setup that new server.. which will have squeeze 17:05:00 just sooooooooooo unmotivated 17:05:08 I have time until end of April 17:05:26 tiles, too 17:05:39 Napkin: what's wrong with dist-upgrade? 17:05:43 -!- ekiM has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:05:56 > ps -ef | wc -l 17:05:56 388 17:05:59 that is, kilobyte 17:07:01 done - and ~/debian -> /var/www/crawl.develz.org/htdocs/debian/ created 17:08:03 Crawl has hardly any needs above glibc and locales, not sure about other stuff you run 17:08:19 lots of other stuff 17:09:09 and of course, when doing the move i'd also like to rearrange some things 17:09:10 you could do the upgrade piecemeal, too 17:11:08 not worth it - switching the server anyways 17:11:35 I'd preach to you about the awesomesity of btrfs, but then, squeeze has an ancient kernel which has good for nothing btrfs support 17:12:01 well, it's not a desktop, kilobyte ;) 17:12:03 you snapshot a directory, do an upgrade there, switch it over the old version 17:12:12 i ran 2.6.37 on the server for a while 17:12:36 but it only comes with LXC support which is not acceptable yet 17:12:56 additionally i need a security-supported kernel 17:13:55 LXC? I've been very, very happy with vserver but due to some politics it not only won't get merged in but also is going to be dropped from Debian :( 17:14:06 exactly :( 17:14:14 but they say LXC is an almost identical thing 17:14:18 i tried LXC.. 17:14:37 when inside a container.. you remount the parition which holds the container! 17:14:44 *you can 17:14:54 cool 17:15:10 with btrfs subvolumes, you do a lot of remounting 17:15:28 so all this blabla about "hey, mount /lib and /usr read-only into it" is useless 17:16:01 since currently you can't atomically move a whole directory tree -- just either a single file or a subvolume (which is a directory tree, but with some restrictions) 17:16:56 can you stop this capability? 17:17:13 not that i'm aware of 17:17:28 anyways - i compiled a tiles version of crawl 17:17:30 like, with vserver you can give root to someone hostile to you and they can't break your system in any way 17:18:06 (assuming you put in memory/# of processes/disk quotas) 17:18:23 imagine my face, when I init 6 the container and it remounted /var as read-only... 17:18:37 /var on the host! 17:18:50 not pretty... 17:19:00 heh 17:19:11 I have trouble imagining they'd leave such a nonsense... so something must be amiss 17:19:22 but having no clue about LXC, I can't say more 17:19:30 anyways, how would I create a crawl binary, that uses /usr/share/games/crawl as data dir and .crawl as save folder? 17:20:02 it's been reported in july 2010.. supposedly fixed.. but it's not 17:23:37 > ./crawl 17:23:37 /home/chojin/Source/crawl/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/hells.des:111: Unknown error compiling chunk 17:23:48 i guess LUAJIT was not such a good idea afterall, huh? 17:24:04 O_ 17:24:15 (Oh no an eye fell out) 17:24:30 * Napkin tosses due another o * 17:30:44 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 17:34:16 kilobyte? 17:37:12 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:39:18 Napkin: whoops, been debugging the recent pile of crashes 17:39:34 oh, it's ok 17:39:36 reproduced it, too 17:40:03 just tried statifier and ermine.. both not so nice 17:40:23 where do you want to put the executable? 17:41:31 I've put some documentation at the front of the makefile 17:41:38 not the best place, probably 17:42:04 not sure about the executable yet 17:42:13 trying to build a partly static binary for now 17:42:19 failing though 17:42:50 i was wondering how to save logs/saves/morgues in .crawl as well 17:44:11 SAVEDIR=~/.crawl 17:44:48 still not fully cleaned after dropping multiuser installs 17:45:16 hmm.. can't even get it to use the contrib SDL 17:45:18 /usr/bin/ld: contrib/install/lib/libSDL.a(SDL_sysloadso.o): undefined reference to symbol 'dlclose@@GLIBC_2.2.5' 17:45:21 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'dlclose@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in DSO //lib64/libdl.so.2 so try adding it to the linker command line 17:48:08 dlopen() is not exactly static... Nor is anything that touches .so files. 17:48:48 it's trying to link libSDL.a 17:49:09 removing that in hope to link libSDL dynamicly gives the same error.. 17:49:22 i'm too noob for this statis/shared thingy 17:50:47 -!- valrus_ has joined ##crawl-dev 17:52:02 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:07 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:53:24 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:11 -!- syllogism has quit [] 18:30:29 03kilobyte * rce4dbcfd8506 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Temporarily revert d57c28b0 (fix monster trails) in tiles. 18:49:59 Windows development builds on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-5703-gce4dbcf 19:30:59 -!- Whitewater has joined ##crawl-dev 19:33:25 -!- Whitewater has quit [Client Quit] 19:49:09 -!- ekiM has joined ##crawl-dev 19:54:48 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:56:08 -!- ekiM has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:04:32 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 20:12:59 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:56 -!- edlothiol has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:46:20 -!- Twilight13 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:21 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:13 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 20:55:21 why was 3329 closed? 20:55:28 there is a vault that places multiple vampire mosquitos on D:6 20:55:31 which is BS 20:55:56 honestly, giant blowflies should return 20:57:30 vampire mosquitos are fine but replacing every single mosquito ever with them was a bad call 21:03:41 "oh no, whatever will we DO???" 21:03:50 it's not that difficult ot submit a patch fixing early mosquito placement. 21:05:12 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:14:38 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 21:51:17 -!- valrus_ is now known as qalrus 21:51:25 -!- elliptic is now known as elliptiq 21:54:25 -!- elliptiq is now known as elliptic 21:56:16 -!- Twilight has joined ##crawl-dev 21:56:42 -!- Twilight is now known as Guest70564 22:06:04 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:04 -!- Guest70564 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:17:28 -!- ThisIsNotQyrris has joined ##crawl-dev 22:17:42 I'm getting magic mapped floor everywhere 22:17:45 any idea what that is? 22:17:56 at the edge of my los... I think it's related to the monster trail thing 22:17:56 I get that too 22:30:09 -!- ThisIsNotQyrris is now known as TGWi 23:07:34 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:13:38 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:14:01 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev