00:00:07 -!- ZChris13 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:01:46 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:31:14 -!- ZChris13 has quit [Quit: Page closed] 01:08:45 destroy weapons description doesn't indicate what it's actually used for 01:09:06 I guess it's in the ^ screen 01:15:47 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 01:20:32 -!- Moriasc has quit [Client Quit] 01:30:53 the sewer with mosquitos needs revision 01:31:17 (they are more than 50% faster, deal more damage, and now vampiric) 01:31:21 (also omniresistant) 01:31:38 I just entered a sewer and there were multiples of them right at the entrance 01:32:18 due: you owe me a mfhe 6 01:32:19 :( 01:39:47 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:43:27 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:44:19 moin guys 01:44:24 great, due :) 01:45:03 BRed it 01:47:10 TGWi: Congrats on being first victim 01:47:28 greensnark: >:( 01:47:36 vampire mosquitos in sewer (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3329) by TGW 01:48:15 !killsby vampire mosquito 01:48:15 One game for * (ckiller=vampire mosquito): 1x TGW 01:48:24 ??tgw[6] 01:48:25 tgw[6/6]: First vampire mosquito victim. In a sewer. 01:48:25 ??tgw 01:48:25 tgw[1/6]: (3:22:37 AM) Aladar: he's doing it out of spite (3:22:38 AM) Aladar: basically (3:23:07 AM) Aladar: i think that might be all tgw ever does. 01:48:32 Damn, you already added it? :P 01:48:40 I can delete it so you can 01:48:48 Next time 01:49:13 next time someone replaces monsters in vaults with new extremely OOD ones 01:49:31 Yes! 01:49:41 I feel like making some vaults and I notice the abyss still lacks them. Should I make some? 01:50:12 Go for it 01:50:18 And if so, are there any guideliens I should follow? I don't really have much to go on, since there are like 4 abyss vaults 01:50:20 is it even possible? 01:50:29 ah, nvm 01:50:37 evilmike: "Keep them smallish" 01:50:38 hi 01:50:38 due: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:50:40 !messages 01:50:41 (1/1) greensnark said (2h 50m 38s ago): Vampire mosquito <3 01:50:44 hi due 01:50:46 greensnark: :D Eronarn! 01:50:46 due: You already have a victim :P 01:50:49 1tell due vampire mosquito What about runes? Some of them have runes, but I'm wondering how often that should be the case 01:50:56 !lg * killer=vampire mosquito 01:50:57 1. TGW the Pacifier (L6 MfHe), worshipper of Elyvilon, slain by a vampire mosquito in Sewer (sewer big baddie) on 2011-01-29, with 668 points after 9316 turns and 0:25:12. 01:50:58 TGW? 01:50:59 I left you an irate BR 01:50:59 LOL. 01:51:08 you replaced the ones in sewers 01:51:12 it's a bit of a problem 01:51:31 yes, I know 01:51:35 I meant to reduce their speed and HP 01:51:43 as the attacks are not that much different 01:52:02 evilmike: If the vault is tagged "abyss_rune" you get to put in a rune. 01:52:33 in which case if the builder wants to place a rune it may use your vault instead of placing the rune directly 01:52:48 Yeah, I just don't know if I should pay more attention to making those, or to regular vaults that can't have runes 01:52:49 General "abyss" tagged vaults are used as scenery, and "abyss_exit" for exits 01:52:56 evilmike: Your call! 01:53:08 alright 01:53:10 If you add enough rune vaults we can drop the dummy's chance 01:53:19 can you place eldritch tentacles in vaults? 01:53:23 Right now rune vaults have only 10% chance of being used because there are so few 01:53:39 monqy: I want to do that, I dunno how though 01:53:55 due: can you place eldritch tentacles in vaults? 01:55:13 it would be cool to have like, a big blob of flesh (using those tiles from that wizlab) with a bunch of tentacles radiating from it 01:55:27 greensnark I... don't know. 01:55:46 evilmike: you'd have to modify the tile 01:55:47 FR: tentacle zig level 01:55:59 fr: tentacle branch 01:56:03 :P 01:56:06 I *can* code a Lua marker that you could place which would mimic malign gateway. 01:56:14 Without timeouts, etc. 01:56:19 malign gateways, krakens, and whatnot 01:56:26 malign kraken 01:56:34 malign whatnot 01:56:36 Ooh, kraken zig level is an excellent idea. 01:56:41 kraken gateways 01:56:49 megakraken 01:56:50 malign krakenways 01:57:13 summoning spell that fills up a pool and summons kraken into it 01:57:39 Hill giant wields weapon inappropriately (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3330) by Curio 01:57:48 an aquatic summon would be interesting imo 01:58:36 Haha, hill giant wields weapon inappropriately 01:58:43 I wonder what weapon that might be 01:58:49 greensnark: a dildo! 01:58:55 is that the second or third duplicate 01:59:01 reflavour hill giants as being telekinetic 01:59:29 also rename them to hill megapersons 01:59:41 megamosquitoes coming right up 01:59:45 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 01:59:48 hill übermensch 01:59:54 regarding modifying the tile: I didn't know malign gateway had a tile yet :P. I downloaded the 0.8 tiles version recently and it just shows as ? for me 01:59:59 well, a ? with a heart 02:00:28 evilmike: :o 02:00:38 evilmike: oh, i meant you'd have to modify the wizlab tile 02:00:41 on the hill giant bug, the original reports were closed due to the bug being fixed 02:00:42 hill megamensch* 02:00:44 evilmike: also, they have tiles but jpeg hasn't coded them. 02:00:57 so I'm guessing it's either a regression or curio didn't know it's fixed 02:01:02 Oh I see 02:01:15 and based the report on an old screenshot 02:01:30 03greensnark * r4d515aeb319b 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Sheep catch fire, instead of catching on fire. 02:02:04 is that correct? 02:02:12 I always say "catch on fire" 02:02:17 You'd be wrong 02:02:23 catch fire is correct 02:02:32 03due * r71b7a5fe9196 10/crawl-ref/source/show.cc: Fix trapdoor spiders being hinted at with } glyphs. 02:02:38 x is on fire, x catches on fire 02:02:44 Something catches fire, not catches on fire. 02:02:53 Aw, so those trapdoor spiders weren't squirming eagerly to eat monqy's kidneys? 02:03:06 they squirm stealthily 02:03:50 * due eats greensnark's kidney. 02:04:09 greensnark: re: your email. You get to write the doxygen preprocessor, thanks for offering. :D 02:04:19 Hahahaha 02:04:21 @??jelly 02:04:22 jelly (04J) | Speed: 9 | HD: 3 | Health: 15-30 | AC/EV: 0/2 | Damage: 808(acid:7d3) | Flags: amphibious, see invisible | Res: 06magic(12), 03poison, 08acid+++, asphyx, 12drown | XP: 22. 02:04:31 @??vapire mosquito 02:04:31 unknown monster: "vapire mosquito" 02:04:32 I'm about to go sit on the roof and read Steven Erikson 02:04:35 @??vampire mosquito 02:04:36 vampire mosquito (07y) | Speed: 19 | HD: 5 | Health: 17-39 | AC/EV: 2/15 | Damage: 507(disease), 805(vampiric) | Flags: 07undead, evil, fly | Res: 06magic(20), 03poison, 12drown, 04rot, 13neg+++, 13torm | Vul: 08holy++ | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 179. 02:04:49 I have zero responsibilities to Crawl :) 02:05:14 me neither ): 02:05:15 *:) 02:05:27 I just enjjoy codin gfor it. 02:05:29 Does holy vul actually use multiple levels of vul? 02:05:30 This too shall pass, etc. 02:05:32 Yes. 02:05:35 Ah 02:05:42 It's horrible, horrible code. 02:05:49 I have a warrant from dpeg to do whatevere I like with it. :D 02:06:01 due develops crawl because he hates me, personally 02:06:03 (There was a lot of "oh it should go on the wiki" but I am going to unify and standardise it all.) 02:06:06 I bet that's it 02:06:07 TGWi: that too 02:06:30 TGWi: We all work on Crawl because we hate you, it's the one thing that unifies the team! 02:06:31 !messages 02:06:31 No messages for ortoslon. 02:06:31 another vault related question: is there a list somewhere of what all the tiles are called? I've just been looking through the des files to see what they are called but there has to be a better way 02:06:39 for example floor_rough_red and wall_vines and stuff like that 02:07:08 but you are listed in the credits in stone soup team, greensnark :-P 02:07:14 Napkin: Please remove my name! 02:07:19 evilmike: rltiles/dc-*.txt 02:07:26 thanks 02:07:29 evilmike: actually 02:07:53 Napkin: I'm strictly retired, and I don't want people at work checking on my online activities 02:07:56 evilmike: if you build the tilegen.elf tool and then use that to build all the relevant dc*.txt files, you will get a .html with a name + image. 02:08:16 Very few people know greensnark = me, but a lot of people know my real name 02:08:19 uuuh, now you're playing the dpeg-card! 02:08:31 Hm, okay, so, development or cufflinks? 02:08:33 cufflinks win! 02:08:56 Napkin: It's a handy card to play :) 02:08:59 !learn edit devteam[4] s/$/ Claims not to be: greensnark./ 02:08:59 devteam[4/4]: Former Soup devs: Erik Piper / - / erisdiscordia. Former maintainers: Linley Henzell, Brent Ross. Never has been: cbus, Eronarn, LordSloth, TGW. Claims not to be: greensnark. 02:09:07 Ass 02:09:13 :( 02:09:28 !learn edit devteam[4] s/ Claims not to.*// 02:09:28 devteam[4/4]: Former Soup devs: Erik Piper / - / erisdiscordia. Former maintainers: Linley Henzell, Brent Ross. Never has been: cbus, Eronarn, LordSloth, TGW. 02:09:43 well, you got the same result: Darshan S. ;) 02:10:05 Napkin: Expunged! Stricken from the records! Foundations sown with salt! 02:10:20 hehe 02:10:23 four commits two hours ago 02:10:53 watch it, otherwise i'll another "special thanks" to the most active retiree ;D 02:11:45 Typo fixes and adding messages don't count as commits 02:11:51 Neither do one word fixes 02:11:57 curious why your job would care that you participate in an effort to write a free software game 02:12:06 greensnark, you might be retarded, but you're still one of the few developers capable of making major _and_ meaningful changes ;p 02:12:12 oops, I meant retired 02:12:19 hahaha 02:12:21 Zaba: I like your compliments :P 02:12:22 ahahaha 02:12:22 * Napkin giggles * 02:12:30 -!- greensnark is now known as Crazy_Yiuf 02:12:39 watch your split personalities :P 02:13:13 I'm off to lunch with a walrus. Later. 02:13:24 enjoy! 02:13:24 s/lunch with a/lunch on a/ 02:13:51 but now we know that Zin and Crazy_Yiuf are actually two completely orthogonal sides of a single person 02:13:55 the mystery has been resolved 02:16:16 Zaba: so my overhaul to shops and unique handling were neither major nor meaningful? ;) 02:16:54 due, greensnark was the coding mastermind behind them both and you know that :P 02:17:25 for what it's worth, my refactoring of dungeon.cc is minor and meaningless 02:17:26 shops and unique handling? 02:17:50 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:17:52 due, anyway, I said 'one of the few', not 'the only' 02:17:59 yes, and i was teasing :) 02:18:14 what counts as a "major" bug, anyway? 02:18:20 those who believe that they make major and meaningful changes to the code might continue believing that 02:18:22 besides not vampire mosquitos 02:18:25 your refactoring dungeon.cc is neither minor nor meaningless; it means we can understand it! ... a little. 02:18:40 due, that is more of a harmful consequence than a good thing :P 02:18:43 it does things to your mind :P 02:19:17 it's minor because it solves none of the root problems in dungeon building, and it's meaningless because it doesn't really get us closer to solving them :P 02:19:51 it's meaningful because now we know that you understand it andwe can hassle you :D 02:20:05 haha :D 02:20:48 just finished my first game on pre-0.8 and it was great 02:21:04 hooray! 02:21:46 played heavy armour char, and it felt good, maybe even a bit too strong, not sure 02:22:05 one dungeon had glass walls, that was a cool surprise 02:22:12 I _really_ should update level design docs at some point 02:22:46 i should doo 02:22:48 the new skills screen is very nice - just the shortcut legend at the bottom needs to be consistencified ;) 02:23:04 i've changed the shop syntax a lot but not updated it, sigh. 02:23:49 the non-giant creatures had nice names 02:24:08 03due * r1bb2f36cf58a 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/sewer.des: Fix TGW's misery. 02:24:12 did you meet any ranged monsters you had to run away from or lure around a corner? :P 02:24:14 *former giants 02:24:19 03due * ra5db03f97e5e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/sewer.des: Resolve #3297: further glyph issues in sewers. 02:24:34 i had one centauer with disperal bow - that one was very tough 02:25:02 which i had to lure around a corner, not just into a corridor - nice 02:25:11 okay, so two major overauls to-do... 02:25:29 can anyone think of a way to marshall a function pointer vector? 02:26:09 I suppose an enum would be better. 02:45:04 lol, tgw's ghost got me 02:45:27 pity, didn't want to leave that new sewer vault i never saw before ;) 02:46:21 tgw has his ref=venge on the vampire mosquitoes :) 02:46:36 :D 02:47:09 *revenge, even. 02:53:20 anyone know about fight.cc? 02:54:19 monqy: know what about it? 02:54:52 I'm contemplating implementing monster spines. is there any good equivalent of melee_attack::player_sustain_passive_damage() for monsters? 02:55:03 i could only think of marshalling a string with the function's name to look up 02:55:25 like jellies, monqy? 02:55:26 that is, unless someone else is already on monster spines 02:55:34 they burn you when you hit them 02:55:38 Napkin: yes, that's how it does it 02:58:11 oh there's mons_do_spines; I guess I could make that a bit more general 02:58:39 RjY: i am basically doing that 02:59:00 monqy: there are no monster spines yet but please do them :D 02:59:10 monqy: and yes, jelly passive damage is a good place to start. 02:59:16 yeah I've been looking at that 02:59:54 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 03:00:46 good luck andhope you have your sanity later 03:00:52 heheh 03:02:46 oh dear, mon-class-flags.h 03:03:44 hahahaha 03:04:22 consider not making it a class flag 03:04:37 then what do I make it? 03:04:54 well, class flag is probably the best bit in tihis instance 03:05:02 i'm not sure if we're out of bits yet 03:05:54 looks like it's currently at 41 out of 64, if I'm interpreting it correctly 03:06:10 i always get it wrong 03:06:13 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:08:00 argh death queue is a nightmare will ned to draw it on paper to understand it 03:08:11 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:08:52 do i want to try shop inventories? 03:08:55 no, not brave enough 03:13:01 Black pixels in new lair tiles. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3331) by co 03:14:48 is there some non-air spell to help you against ranged attacks? 03:14:49 Did anyone else get a sourceforge email? 03:14:57 yes, me too, due 03:14:58 Napkin: phase shift, kinda. 03:14:59 евж 03:15:01 yes 03:15:09 sourceforge got hacked, supposedly 03:15:31 anything else, due? 03:16:07 because i'm wondering.. how can you survive ranged attacks as a spellcaster without learning repel/deflect missiles? 03:16:37 shouldn't there be some earthy spell to help against ranged attacks too? 03:17:19 phase shift, kinda 03:17:21 LCS? :D 03:17:21 Napkin: controlled blink, control teleport, a bunch of summoning spells 03:17:49 polymorph other (heh heh heh) 03:18:05 and on that note, cigotuvi's degeneration, banishment, LCS, firestorm 03:18:18 seriously? 03:19:15 I don't see how it's bad that you have to go air if you want straight protection from ranged attacks 03:19:46 killing stuff fast is always a good solution to ranged attacks 03:20:13 also i think rmsl is easy to cast even if you have no air at all, it's only level 2 03:20:54 rmsl helps you against yaktaur crews in an open field? 03:21:39 other things that help: summon butterflies, shatter, killdudes, evaporating water 03:21:47 (s)cblinking into them 03:22:08 how does shatter help aside from killing things? 03:22:16 killing them all 03:22:35 fire storm's vortices are a nice extra bonus if they somehow survive 03:23:46 03galehar * rabea8293473f 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/sewer.des: Add missing ENDMAP in sewer.des. 03:23:49 03galehar * r55f503d985b1 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-cast.cc spl-clouds.cc spl-clouds.h): Fix casting cloud spells on (and through) walls. 03:23:51 i tried summonings - and they just got shot down faster than I was able to create them 03:25:18 controlled blink or controlled teleport is another specialized option only, like deflect missiles, isn't it? 03:25:39 speaking of cloud spells 03:25:44 can you still cast them anywhere in los 03:26:06 Napkin: what do you mean by specialized? 03:26:22 aren't they high-level spells too? 03:26:41 I tried to put a kraken in an abyss vault, caused an assert when its tentacle reached around the edge of the map 03:27:48 control teleport is only level 4 tloc/charm and you can use it pretty well with normal blink 03:32:44 what does as_monster() do? at a glance, it looks like for monsters it's just a self-reference and for players it returns NULL 03:34:41 it's for use on actors 04:03:15 Assert failed when kraken is placed in abyss via a vault (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3332) by evilmike 04:08:29 evilmike: lol cool 04:08:55 monqy: it's an actor member 04:09:17 monqy: player and monster subclass actor which defines common methods. in a lot of instances you want to accept actor* act rather than monster* mons. 04:09:33 monqy: this is good for forwards compatability too: gods may eventually become actors. 04:10:14 hmmmmI placed that vault in the normal dungeon and got the same assertion, I guess it's not abyss related 04:10:45 due: it's just that I'm noticing it in places where using a normal actor is type-safe, if I have my C++ correct 04:11:06 a general actor, I mean 04:11:46 unless these cases are simply meant to dereference null pointers in case of misuse 04:14:49 monqy: such as? 04:14:51 -!- Crazy_Yiuf is now known as greensnark 04:15:38 attacker->as_monster()->hurt(etc.) 04:15:51 monqy: Where's this code 04:15:59 fight.cc 04:16:09 If it's converting to monster just to access actor methods that's silly 04:16:19 yeah that's what confused me 04:16:23 mons_do_spines() I think 04:16:32 fight.cc:1376 is "lol wtf" 04:17:15 Looks like there's a lot of code doing that, ugh 04:17:28 some of the methods aren't actor methods but probably should be 04:17:37 for instance as_monster()->friendly() 04:17:39 Well, pos() totally is :P 04:17:55 hence why my forinstance was friendly ;) 04:18:35 how costly is it to call as_monster()? 04:19:05 It's not very costly 04:19:10 okay, good 04:19:16 because it's called a million times in fight.cc alone 04:19:33 I wouldn't worry about the cost, but rather the fact that it makes the code monster-specific 04:19:57 yes, it is annoynig. 04:20:35 And if it's going to be used three times in three lines it would be nice to assign it to a variable 04:20:43 I should stop looking at this code 04:20:48 The worst part is that this is all new code :P 04:20:55 You can't even blame it on 4.0 :P 04:21:04 but how much of it predates actors? 04:22:11 How much of the logic: fair bit. How much of the code: zero. 04:22:42 Everything in melee_attack is >= 0.1 04:22:47 So are actors 04:23:00 i am not familiar with <0.5 basically. 04:25:02 evilmike: I like your vault idea :D 04:25:10 evilmike: Maybe you should use a spectral kraken though 04:26:03 And it's not crashing here 04:26:21 a new eldritch monster that's basically a kraken but with malign gateway tentacles 04:26:55 I didn't know you could get deep dwarf fetuses in the abyss 04:27:18 what is the assert? 04:27:41 huh, fixedvector asserts are odd 04:27:45 are you sure you havne't done any changes? 04:28:42 Also debug message spam around kraken is fierce 04:30:19 i could add a spectral kraken as a variation 04:30:49 I might make it a rune vault instead, because wading into the middle of a kraken pool is a tad suicidal 04:31:40 uh 04:31:47 yeah :D 04:31:52 No crashes here 04:32:28 wtf@ghosts ... 04:32:45 did they finally get their spells back? 04:32:53 <- 0.7 04:32:56 oh 04:33:35 fight against mephitic cloud in d2 04:34:06 can't even read your scrolls when confused permanently *sigh* 04:35:47 -!- edlothiol has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:02 to produce the crashes I've basically just been dancing in circles around the vault, usually the tentacles are pretty long when it happens 04:36:18 and its just an unmodified windows tiles build, downloaded it just a few hours ago actually 04:36:35 Do the tentacles have to bend around walls and stuff before it crashes 04:36:50 Because this kraken has more tentacles than Mu_ and I still have no crashes 04:37:00 hmm, possibly. I'll mess around with it a bit more 04:37:30 oh wow, AE's shock is penetrating? :-O 04:38:05 Napkin: I had a similar question once, when I was doing my first French course and three months into the course I asked my teacher the difference between venir and aller 04:38:24 Never seen anyone's jaw drop like that 04:38:33 hehehe 04:40:40 definitely not happening because of walls 04:45:21 here's a screenshot: http://i53.tinypic.com/iz9dt3.jpg 04:46:02 Did you make any changes to the vault 04:46:13 Does creating a kraken with &M crash 04:47:00 Ohh tiles 04:47:09 That explains things nicely 04:47:16 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 04:47:16 In that screenshot all I changed to the vault was add a massive floor area around it to ensure no walls got in the way. Haven't tried &M 04:47:18 Tiles has about 250% the crashiness of the ascii port 04:49:02 is that a bug or a feature? 04:49:10 ah. I selected "windows tiles" on the bug report form, but it looks like that info isn't displaying on the page (I assumed it was) 04:49:19 I'll make sure to note that in the bug report next time I submit one 04:49:22 evilmike: It's displayed if you're in the advanced view 04:49:31 Which until now I hadn't made the default in my preferences 04:49:35 oh, alright 04:49:51 The default simple view is pretty useless and Mantis should totally fix that 04:50:49 bhaak: Tiles has craptons more code than the tty port, and a lot fewer people looking at the code, so it's pretty much inevitable :) 04:51:10 And our most reliable testing team is strictly tty :) 04:51:14 I mean the folks who play on CDO 04:52:06 It doesn't help that most of the tiles players use Windows where we don't have usable crash dumps 04:52:19 Windows crash dumps would make life way easier 04:52:29 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:36 The tentacleman cometh 04:52:54 greetings 04:53:25 monqy: I see your "Really attack while unarmed" and raise you a "Really attack while wielding the +9 Sword of Power" 04:54:12 Hey Mu_, we were just talking about krakens, tentacles and orifices. 04:54:24 Well, not the last bit, but something brought it to mind 04:55:30 fractal tentacles 04:55:58 Ugh, stupid kraken killed me because I hadn't activated wizmode 04:58:22 who would wanna hack sourceforge 04:59:22 Oh, so it was you? 04:59:40 Nice try diverting suspicion 04:59:44 greensnark: yeah, you got much more code differences between the tty and tiles UI. in nh this got abstracted away as much as possible (although that restricts a bit what you can do in a window port) 04:59:46 But we're on to you 04:59:55 and ghost again... grrr 05:00:02 I would wanna hack sourceforge to install certran trac plugins 05:00:10 rm bones! 05:00:12 i was trying to break in and improve the website 05:00:18 bhaak: Yeah, there's no real windowport abstraction layer in Crawl 05:01:13 Napkin: Ghosts are delicious experience piñatas 05:01:50 well, not really 05:02:03 Oh yes, they are. I love ghosts. 05:02:08 most probably are 05:02:17 Just handle them the right way 05:02:20 but a d2 ghost? you just try to run from 05:02:32 D:2 ghosts are not possible, D:3 is the earliest 05:02:47 and when you come back later to whip their butt, their experience is not really important anymore 05:02:55 oh, sorry, yes, both d3 05:03:10 If you have a wand, use it, otherwise draw the ghost to the upstairs, go upstairs, quaff id all your potions and hope you get berserk rage or might or whatever :) 05:03:28 And there you go, 500+xp to train your skills up! 05:03:36 Ghosts are *great* 05:03:47 Apart from the drac ghosts 05:03:51 That have reached XL 7 05:03:51 not spell casters 05:04:16 solution: play trunk, where ghosts don't cast spells (unless that was fixed) 05:04:27 oh, someone broke it? Nice 05:04:32 especially not mephitic cloud casting ghosts 05:04:51 twice a row.. let's see what's next 05:05:46 Tiles are pretty, but very dark. I have to crank up my screen brightness to "Searchlight-in-face" before I can see what's going on 05:07:01 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3280 is the report 05:07:23 your monitor isn't configured properly then :P 05:08:14 cats should leave a bones file for every life lost 05:08:24 i bet that's in bad_ideas somewhere 05:08:56