00:22:17 greensnark: my laptop builds crawl from scratch in 8 minutes 00:22:22 :3 00:25:14 Zannick: diaf 00:27:02 what? 00:27:16 time make finished in 7m58.480s 00:28:04 my netbook takes about 25m. 00:28:17 how old is it? 00:28:33 (and is it dual core?) 00:28:58 that might have something to do with it on my machine but i'm not sure 00:29:43 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:33:35 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 00:33:53 -!- Hehfiel has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:34:28 -!- Hehfiel has joined ##crawl-dev 00:34:45 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 00:36:09 Zannick: it's a dual core Intel Atom. 00:36:28 So... yeah. 00:36:34 iiiiiiii think i'm ready to post the next version of zinpatch :D 00:37:00 this one is actually suitable for being committed, pending people fixing where my code sucks so that it doesn't crash 01:00:10 hmm, what's the right syntax to do: 01:00:12 bool blind = looker->atype() == ACT_MONSTER 01:00:12 && looker->as_monster()->has_ench(ENCH_BLIND); 01:06:04 possibly change one or more -> to . 01:11:27 http://pastebin.com/huDNkzMQ here's the code fwiw, it won't compile with a . 01:11:36 it compiles, but crashes, as there 01:23:24 did you update the appropriate string array when you added the ENCH? 01:24:02 the ench, and muting, work fine - the crash actually occurs when i use imprison 01:24:10 and this is an imprison not using recite code 01:24:20 oh, i dunno, then 01:24:42 * Zannick -> 01:31:47 -!- Blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:33:17 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 01:35:50 -!- Blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:09 blah, well, off to bed - if anyone reads this later and wants to message me with how to fix it, please do so. it's the only thing preventing me from submitting this patch as far as i can tell 01:38:12 crashes how 01:38:45 sorear: segfault 01:39:09 ./crawl(_ZNK7monster10visible_toEPK5actor+0x2f) [0x7cadef]: monster::visible_to(actor const*) const 01:39:12 ./crawl() [0x85f639] 01:39:15 ./crawl(_Z14show_update_atRK9coord_defb+0x6ba) [0x86093a]: show_update_at(coord_def const&, bool) 01:39:50 i'm pretty sure i'm doing something wrong in those two lines of code since i didn't do many other modifications to that function 01:40:33 what did you do? 01:43:33 just adding those lines, and then adding !blind &&, afaik 01:43:48 not sure how to do a diff against master, still learning git 01:43:52 also, going to bed 01:44:04 hm 01:44:10 "git diff origin/mater" 02:15:45 moin 02:16:24 -!- Vandal has quit [] 02:19:18 -!- Blackflare has quit [] 03:06:09 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 03:06:25 hi 03:06:47 hi 03:23:25 ahoy! 03:23:36 python tiiiiime :> 03:31:20 due is the Python Padishah 03:31:36 :o 03:33:28 The only other title I could come up with was Python Provost, which seemed weak 03:37:16 Perhaps Python Pope? :P 03:37:34 Python Pope<3 03:38:48 Mark Twain wrote a book called "The Prince anad the Pauper" where the prince runs into a crazy guy in the woods who tells him he's an archangel 03:38:59 And this archangel is really ticked off because he could have been pope instead 03:43:00 -!- monky has quit [Quit: hello] 03:43:58 so, even if he's telling the truth, he'd be still crazy as the pope can't be an angel (angels and humans are clearly different beings in christianity) 03:44:53 I think he got his angelhood instead of being made pope, which is what he's annoyed at :) 03:46:19 oh, is the "humans may become angels" confusion this old? 03:46:50 Why shouldn't it be? It's not like angels are real, so anything goes :P 03:47:21 even if it isn't real, there are rules to be upheld! 03:47:58 Aha: http://tinyurl.com/62m8yz7 03:49:29 rather ironic to have a book by mark twain on a website called forgottenbooks.org 04:09:14 -!- galehar has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:38:34 @??fire crap 04:38:35 unknown monster: "fire crap" 04:38:38 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 04:38:58 due: every of those bastards nukes more than half of your scrolls 04:39:02 :D 04:39:14 and they tend to shoot before you even get to act 04:44:09 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:50:17 uhm... since when you can't read scrolls, drink potions and so on in pig form? 04:58:21 forever? 05:00:18 I haven't ever seen a pig read something 05:00:22 uhm no, I coded it myself 05:02:08 unlike paralysis which lasts a few turns, after a recent change it leaves you without defense (unless you have Dodging skill), offense (unless you do UC) and any abilities other than amulets and gods, for a few hundred turns 05:04:32 that's odd 05:04:46 so unless you fought on stairs/in a corridor, it's game over 05:04:56 commit 91d7a78a 05:06:08 you can un-bat at any time, so for bats this restriction makes sense 05:07:06 I think a pig should have similar restrictions as felids (plus the inability to speak, ie, cast spells) 05:07:31 we might block invocations as well 05:08:19 alright, official now: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/rss-feeds-of-development-builds 05:08:30 Trunk page also contains links to the feeds 05:09:29 the feeds will be updated by running update-trunk-indices.py, which is run by update-mingw-*.sh 05:09:59 Napkin: I wonder if we could get the Mac packages cross-built 05:10:15 no idea 05:10:22 -!- felirx_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:13 -!- felirx has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:12:22 I guess I should look into installing a hackintosh in VirtualBox... it didn't work without hardware virtualization, but on my new box I can try again 05:12:50 the makefile is abysmal wrt cross-building (anything but hard-coded mingw32), but this can be improved 05:13:42 and greensnark made Mac builds not require Xcode, so this could fly 05:18:02 kilobyte: that reminds me, when you test something under windows, do you cross compile, or do you compile in the virtualbox? 05:19:04 always cross compile, native builds take much longer for me -- at least that was the case on my old box 05:19:41 ok 05:20:12 forking is so slow on windows.. 05:20:15 not as big a difference as qemu-armel vs cross build (133 minutes vs 44 seconds), more of a 1.5x, but still 05:20:39 lol 05:21:43 hey, qemu-ppc takes 8 hours. 8 freaking hours. 05:21:52 holy crap, that's a lot 05:22:28 powerpc has a crapload of registers, emulating it is painstakingly slow 05:22:56 I wonder how much it takes on simh-vax 05:23:12 (you can run netbsd on that. We support netbsd, right? :P) 05:23:49 yeah, we do 05:24:04 netbsd needs games? I though porting netbsd to obscure platforms is all the fun those guys needed :) 05:24:20 our portability sucks, but there's no reason to not get it right 05:24:47 I could try installing netbsd in simh-vax, but I'm not sure how I'd go about transferring crawl's sources there 05:24:51 bhaak: what are you supposed to play on obscure platforms? The guys which do such porting tend to be the same kind as those who play roguelikes. 05:25:14 actually, I even had such a VM at some point in the past 05:25:43 -!- cw_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:25:53 kilobyte: those are also the guys you know how to use 'telnet crawl.develz.org 345' :) 05:26:04 s/you/who 05:26:07 telnet? SSH! 05:26:32 save portability relies on knowing the endianness at one point, but if you comment that out, all you lose is the ability to move saves to another platform 05:26:48 i remember when i wanted to compile dcss on solaris 5.8 05:27:11 big fail without gcc 05:27:36 oh, that kind of portability sucking. compiler dependency 05:27:39 Napkin: somehow, every time I try to install Solaris, it fails at a random moment 05:27:54 hehe 05:28:04 all but one attempt were in VirtualBox, but hey, both happen to come from the very same Sun 05:28:25 oracle... 05:28:57 I once installed solaris in kvm successfully, it worked okay 05:28:59 going downhill anyways now.. 05:29:12 but that wasn't anything obscure and/or old :P 05:29:40 solaris without sun keyboard sucks anyways ;) 05:29:44 Zaba: it's possible it doesn't work without hardware virtualization, when I tried that none of the boxes I tried had it (Intel crap) 05:30:32 kilobyte, hey, I did it in the past without virtualization, too. I lost patience quickly, but it didn't fail at anything :P 05:30:52 btw, did you manage to get crawl tty/tiles running on your n900, kilobyte? 05:31:16 Napkin: tty yes, tiles no 05:31:26 oh, awesome 05:31:50 did you build a tarball or package? 05:32:14 or rather, tiles do work if I run Crawl on n900 but with a display that does OpenGL 05:32:18 i'd like to try it myself - and host it for others 05:32:33 opengles - i remember 05:32:34 Napkin: both 05:32:42 \o/ 05:32:43 kilobyte: http://easleyk.wordpress.com/2010/02/10/cross-compiling-firefox-for-mac-on-linux/ 05:33:08 I've wanted to do that myself, because neither of my macs is always-on 05:33:12 hi greensnark 05:33:14 And one of my macs is a Hackintosh :P 05:33:25 That I also reboot into Windows/Linux 05:33:27 however, there's a regression in 0.7, it crashes badly in a few places, the most consistent one being autoexplore (~80% of the time) 05:33:43 Napking! 05:33:44 pre-0.7 it worked correctly, trunk works well too 05:33:48 !coffee Napkin 05:33:49 * Henzell hands Napkin a mug of black coffee, brewed by Kikubaaqudgha. 05:34:06 Kiku necro coffee brewed from the finest undead beans. 05:34:15 greensnark: i was wrong about only ipv6 for hetzner boxes 05:34:29 Napkin: They still give four free IPs? 05:34:41 bu ipv4 is 1 euro per month now - up to 4 in total 05:35:04 So +1 EUR for each extra IPv4 address? 05:35:26 Still pretty damn cheap 05:36:13 or a subnet - 15 euro per month, one time fee depending on size 05:36:41 yeah 05:36:41 Pretty much the nicest hosting service I've seen so far :) 05:36:41 By a largeish margin 05:36:41 thinking... maybe i could manage with 4 instead of the current 16 ;) 05:36:41 Although they do invoice me in German 05:36:41 :P 05:36:41 lol.. noobs :D 05:36:41 Actually they have an English translation underneath the German but the German always cracks me up 05:36:48 16 is really just a convenience 05:36:54 in Debian, there is a wonderful thing called xapt (only in experimental, not in unstable yet) that lets you get and convert all libraries and headers you want, so all you need is to cross-build the actual compiler, also easy now 05:37:06 when I tried half a year ago, it was a major pain in the butt 05:37:12 nice 05:38:23 too bad this works only for cross-compiling from one Debian arch to another, but that's still useful for anything that depends on an architecture's rather than OS' features 05:39:58 -!- cw_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:15 I should try setting up toolwhip on a VM, it looks like it should more or less Just Work 05:51:18 For some values of "Just Work" :) 05:53:25 galehar: hi? 05:53:33 there's no show all skills function anymore 05:53:41 hi 05:53:49 is that intentional? 05:53:53 you play in 80x24? 05:53:59 88x27 05:54:09 ok 05:54:30 this is probably caused by the ench-split adding a line 05:54:55 so, are there any plan on merging short blade with long blade or stabbing? 05:54:59 the line is gone, but also * doesn't work 05:54:59 ;) 05:55:18 ok, I'll fix it 05:55:28 :D 05:59:28 03dpeg * r1ef65a4dbf98 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson1.des: Minor addition to tutorial lesson 1. 05:59:32 * due sleeps. 06:01:04 g'night due 06:01:31 hey kilobyte, could you link be a tarball or debian package for dcss on maemo? 06:14:27 -!- felirx_ is now known as felirk 06:14:34 -!- felirk is now known as felirx 06:15:37 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:18:49 Voker57 (L11 NaFE) ASSERT(!"Bad breath type!") in 'abl-show.cc' at line 1669 failed. (D:11) 06:20:11 Napkin: I did it in a chroot, I'd need to make a native build 06:20:41 ah, no hurry then 06:21:37 Nokia's toolchain really sucks -- for one, you can't even build many things on the device, you need their scratchbox setup which requires a particular set of obsolete kernel features 06:23:03 oh, aha 06:23:11 i've never looked into that yet 06:24:55 then don't, kilobyte 06:25:04 I was just interested in trying it out 06:25:23 i'm usually playing something else when i'm bored and there is no computer around ;) 06:25:39 but if you give it a shot some time, please let me know :) 06:26:04 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 06:32:10 Napkin: playing console sucks due to the tiny keyboard... you can alter keybindings, of course, but in a game where you need so many keys it's no fun 06:32:22 it's not just WSAD + accelerometer tilting 06:33:33 that's why I looked into tiles -- clicking on a monster might be more convenient 06:35:31 usually, clicking is also difficult, depending on the size 06:42:54 Keskitalo: @Usability testing 2011 posting: according to our website the original Linley's Dungeon Crawl was released in 1995 - you say 1997 - what's correct, guys? 06:47:00 maybe he started working on it in 1995 but I think the first actual release was in 1997 06:47:18 1.1 source files are dated late 1997 mostly 06:47:26 a quick google groups search spits out http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/msg/1caef8bcaaff65d2 06:47:31 oct 3 1997 06:47:37 for crawl 1.01 06:48:15 and every few days later a new version :) almost like the current devteam 06:49:39 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 06:50:02 the official website says "Linley's Dungeon Crawl - roguelike originated in 1995 by Linley Henzell." so I guess that's where the date is from 06:50:14 from linley's posting it seems there must have been a posting about version 1.00 06:54:19 only snapshot of his old website in the internet archive, says "(c) 1997" at the bottom: http://web.archive.org/web/19990222085642/http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/7812/index.html 06:56:46 hehe, cool 06:56:48 !seen galehar 06:56:49 I last saw galehar at Wed Jan 12 11:55:18 2011 UTC (1h 1m 31s ago) saying ok, Ill fix it on ##crawl-dev. 06:58:15 galehar: do you agree to remove the "Corrupted Tiles saves in Trunk" topic? 06:59:20 you mean removing the annoucement, not deleting the topic, right? 07:00:27 galehar: I wrote a treatise on skill training in the forum. That was for you, reply welcome (not urgent). 07:00:34 I saw 07:01:33 -!- Twilight13 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:02:33 galehar: can also tell me here :) 07:02:35 this is the earliest message of linley I could find with the e-mail whith which he posted the crawl announcements: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/msg/a16013481f079161 07:02:46 -!- Twilight-1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:02:59 it seems he was coding a roguelike presumably crawl already a year before releasing 07:03:43 "Bizarre is probable the best way to describe some parts of it; that, and the occasional satanic overtone." things haven't changed much 07:04:59 -!- cw_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:05:28 bhaak: :) 07:05:46 -!- kronusdark has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:34 im trying to build crawl from source but i keep getting a message about it not being able to find the standard headers in /usr/include any ideas? 07:07:02 hey, I can count on Linley in my anti-Tolkien crusade 07:07:43 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 07:07:59 kronusdark: what platform are you on? 07:08:24 mac, but i want to install to /usr/local 07:09:14 i grabbed the source with git and im positive i have all the deps 07:09:42 hmm, the first release of crawl wasn't really obvious to find: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_frm/thread/33607726a4f4aac 07:10:15 ook, I don't have a clue about Macs... the likes of greensnark might be of help, not me, sorry 07:10:20 as a reply to somebody with a non-descripting subject "You may remember that on occasion I've posted messages here about a game I was writing, and I've finally finished it." 07:11:03 kilobyte: thanks anyways, i will lurk around and if i cannot figure it out i will ask later 07:15:12 -!- Blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:23 -!- cw_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:23:24 kronusdark: You're getting complaints about missing headers because the makefile tries to use the 10.4 SDK by default and it doesn't check that the SDK actually exists 07:23:27 -!- Twilight13 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:24:27 You can say make SDK_VER=10.5 to force it to use an SDK that is likely to be installed 07:24:28 greensnark: any way to fix it? 07:24:37 ok thanks 07:24:39 i will try 07:25:01 AH! 07:25:03 HA! 07:25:05 it worked 07:25:08 thank you very much 07:26:54 You're welcome 07:27:36 dpeg: answered your post 07:27:49 it's interesting, but off-topic ;) 07:31:34 crawl was first available from geocities? 07:37:27 yes 07:37:40 is that good mocking material? 07:38:53 not more than being around 10 years late to the game. I mean, who designs a new roguelike in the late 90s? 07:38:58 rl are so 80s! 07:39:14 Yeah, RLs don't count unless all their developers are dead 07:39:20 Like, say, NH 07:40:24 * bhaak is gonna kill himself 07:41:26 Variants don't count! 07:41:33 Especially variants that include the Blackmarket 07:41:38 * bhaak is gonna turn undead 07:41:39 They're no longer NH 07:41:43 They're totally Un :P 07:42:36 I bet an NH devteam meetup would look like a Rolling Stones concert 200 years in the future 07:43:28 Pat Rankin could do his Keith Richards impersonation 07:43:48 Are any of the original Angband team still active? 07:44:03 And what about Mike Stephenson 07:44:03 active or alive? :) 07:44:16 bhaak: Well, active. Undead devs are fine! 07:45:14 Mike Stephenson is still in the list of the 3.4 devteam 07:54:03 -!- Blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 07:55:45 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:28 galehar: no, i mean actually deleting it. I "deannounced" it already.. but there will be more and more posts like that last one. So.. we can either rename it or just delete it. 07:57:47 -!- Blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 07:57:55 good catch on 1.0, bhaak :D 08:02:58 Napkin: can't we just lock it? 08:04:30 -!- Twilight13 has joined ##crawl-dev 08:13:10 Napkin: I've locked the topic and moved it to Interface & Software 08:15:02 ok, great 08:17:36 Napkin: Oh now I want to read that post! Link? :) 08:18:06 hehehe, not that interesting.. but easy to be misunderstood as general "my tiles doesn't work" thread ;) 08:18:20 https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=182 08:19:21 Oh, ok 08:27:56 i wish i could forget all the spoilers i've read about 0.3-0.6, i'm still applying them unconsciously 08:28:59 read a scroll of amnesia 08:29:44 i bought a stack several years ago, read one and forgot where i put the rest 08:29:52 hahaha 08:29:54 and shops don't sell them anymore :( 08:30:08 you could alternatively burn the spoilers 08:30:13 might piss off sif muna though 08:31:37 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:43 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 08:40:17 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 08:41:10 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:31 Napkin: when reporting a bug, Mantis said: APPLICATION ERROR #2800 Invalid form security token. Did you submit the form twice by accident? 08:58:50 not nice 08:59:05 try again? 09:00:23 new pig form means game over (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=3196) by KiloByte 09:00:49 a few times, got the same each time. Only after reloading the page, filling all fields and pasting the report again, it worked. 09:02:28 the only thing out of ordinary is that the first page was loaded a couple hours before finishing the report (been busy with work) 09:05:43 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:47 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:14:01 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:16 kilobyte: Sounds like an expiring csrf token 09:46:07 Voker57 (L11 NaFE) ASSERT(!"Bad breath type!") in 'abl-show.cc' at line 1669 failed. (D:11) 09:50:30 yeah 09:50:38 not sure I can do anything to fis that 09:50:44 apart from raising the timeout 09:50:47 *fix 09:53:02 hey Dis:7 actually looks like a city now 09:53:04 Edmund reads a scroll. 09:53:04 _A small abomination appears! 09:53:07 omg! 09:55:04 kobold with dart of disperal, edmund with scroll of summoning.. come oooooon 09:55:09 -!- voker57_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:56:02 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2958 is still reproducible in 52beb4e on CDO, is it not updated yet? 09:56:56 omg, i survived! 09:57:48 !tell Zaba < st_> hey Dis:7 actually looks like a city now 09:57:49 greensnark: OK, I'll let Zaba know. 09:58:01 st_: Unless you were referring to the vault itself? 09:58:08 probably not, voker57_ - it's not updated per bug ;) 09:58:16 nah the part that's not the vault 09:58:45 usually I take all the guys at the start into a corridor but no dice with this layout :P 09:58:55 that bug was just fixed this morning 09:59:39 i'll initiate an update, but it'll take a while, voker57 09:59:45 thanks 10:02:58 st_, yup, I fixed that a while back. 10:02:59 Zaba: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:03:02 !messages 10:03:02 (1/1) greensnark said (5m 13s ago): < st_> hey Dis:7 actually looks like a city now 10:03:35 it has been broken since the preludes for hell ending maps were extracted into lua functions. 10:03:49 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-4521-g1ef65a4 (32) 10:06:01 (the 'dis' tag was not being correctly set) 10:06:11 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 10:06:17 Napkin: <3 the build RSS feed 10:08:05 Dis:7 still uses a different layout when compared to the rest of Dis, but meh :P 10:08:46 greensnark: :) anything you would like to have added? 10:09:03 hmm.. could do a feed for versions on CDO too 10:09:15 Good idea 10:09:32 containg just.. the last 5 versions or something.. in the same format? 10:09:40 Mainly this tells me when I should update the Mac builds :P 10:09:45 hehe 10:10:05 voker57_: update was installed 10:10:53 is there a URI protocol link for telnet or ssh? 10:10:59 yep, thanks, playing now 10:11:07 telnet://? ssh://? is that understood by any clients? 10:11:28 ssh:// is understood by git & rsync 10:11:52 hehe, true 10:11:57 and both by KDE 10:12:07 what does KDE start? 10:12:16 a terminal with ssh/telnet? 10:12:25 yes 10:12:34 funny 10:12:55 then i'll need you to beta test later - agreed? 10:13:45 ok 10:15:55 -!- Kurper has joined ##crawl-dev 10:21:26 -!- voker57_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:25:59 -!- voker57_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:16 -!- voker57_ is now known as Voker57 10:26:23 -!- Voker57 has quit [Changing host] 10:26:23 -!- Voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:32:33 off to go shovel, but http://pastebin.com/huDNkzMQ <-- if someone can help me figure out why this code is causing a segfault when something calls that function, that owuld be great 10:49:17 Eronarn: Getting a backtrace with gdb would help. There's nothing obviously broken about that. 10:49:50 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:50:00 The caller is probably feeding it an invalid actor or calling it on a dead monster or similar, so the backtrace would tell you the problem 10:57:29 null looker would be my guess 11:10:06 next time i start a kenku, i gonna sing Bird is the Word till i get one-shotted 11:11:08 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:20:41 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:22:16 greensnark, hmm.. it'd be great to split out the functionality controlled by 'build_only' out of _build_vault_impl into _build_primary_vault. Unfortunately, that can't be done easily due to the call to the postplace hook... 11:33:39 -!- Voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:39 -!- Voker57 has quit [Changing host] 11:33:39 -!- Voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:33:40 03dolorous * r59b6aa4732eb 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Simplify the message when kraken tentacles die en masse. 11:49:41 http://pastebin.com/4cb8NHCs 11:54:39 oh, i found the problem 11:54:53 had if (mons = NULL) rather than if (mons == NULL) 11:56:33 aaaand it's working now 11:57:58 -_- 12:01:57 -!- Kurper has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:02:26 -!- Kurper has joined ##crawl-dev 12:02:33 -!- Kurper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:04:25 -!- Blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:09:02 -!- Blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:04 b0rsuk is playing 12:33:26 -!- Voker57 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:42:35 what's the preferred way to format this patch before posting it on mantis? should i do one big patch, or rely on format-patch's patch-per-commit, or format-patch --stdout > bigpatch.patch ? 12:44:04 patch_guide.txt says git format-patch - 12:44:10 'a lot' 12:44:30 I believe you can do git format-patch origin/master to format patches for all commits you have but origin/master doesn't 12:45:24 'git format-patch origin/master' gets me 20 patch files 12:46:35 hmm, that is indeed quite a lot. Not really sure what's the best option for that. 12:47:41 maybe you should submit them gradually as they get reviewed and applied. But that is probably too much micromanagement for everybody... 12:48:23 last time, what i did was copy the branch in such a way that it lost the commit history, i forget the exact command 12:48:28 which resulted in everything appearing as one huge commit 12:48:51 that sounds like something that's painful to review, though 12:49:12 yes... but it might be a different, better kind of painful than 20 patches 12:49:36 or, i could do one single patch file with the --stdout... not sure if that will apply properly, though 12:51:42 ' 18 files changed, 1294 insertions(+), 202 deletions(-) 12:51:50 bleeding hell 12:51:55 that's for patch 1 out of 20 12:52:17 what's in it? 12:53:04 add new status effects, new monster (pillar of salt), lots of new dialogue (where the bulk of the lines comes in) 12:53:32 now status effects and a new monster are in a single patch out of 20? 12:54:02 yes, because i'm still getting used to git, was not committing often enough 12:54:20 the other patches are smaller and mostly fixes 12:54:22 git add -p is good for that 12:55:02 -!- Voker57 has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:38 hm, sounds neat, will have to give it a try 12:58:47 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:03:29 03j-p-e-g * r74817034b423 10/crawl-ref/source/l_crawl.cc: Handle '<' properly in the tutorial messages. 13:03:33 03j-p-e-g * r200cc9e8be88 10/crawl-ref/source/ (l_crawl.cc macro.cc macro.h): Explicitly describe uppercase keys as such in the tutorial. 13:03:34 03j-p-e-g * rd6d52ef80f12 10/crawl-ref/source/cmd-keys.h: Tutorial: Display vi keys rather than numpad keys for shift running. 13:03:35 03j-p-e-g * ra699ec633058 10/crawl-ref/source/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Add code to make leaving the tutorial trigger an end of game screen. 13:03:36 03j-p-e-g * rdf42bf32ca8b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson1.des ouch.cc): And a tutorial end screen recapping all movement-related commands. 13:03:37 03j-p-e-g * r4c5645cbd6d3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/tutorial/tutorial_lesson1.des: Tutorial: Unspam the number pad information. 13:06:05 nice 13:25:08 dpeg: zinpatch is ready!! 13:25:26 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 13:25:51 Eronarn: cool! 13:26:52 Imprison works again, I like that. 13:26:54 dpeg: how do you feel about Imprison making silver (metal) walls instead of rock walls, btw? it would feel much more zin-y 13:28:32 Eronarn: would be okay... Zin seems like to fancy colours a lot (sanctuary)... 13:28:50 I had this idea that certain monsters would just dig out of the prison again :) 13:30:02 -!- psyshvl has joined ##crawl-dev 13:30:23 i think cacodemons are the only monster that would ever be likely to happen 13:30:42 4.1 had Pan lords ue wands of digging to flee. Players loved that. 13:30:51 Why has Imprison been debuffed? 13:30:53 'loved' 13:30:59 yes, positively 13:31:04 debuffed? you mean with not doing recite now? 13:31:06 It feels like they're really smart. 13:31:18 Eronarn: I am reading your Mantis comment. 13:32:52 -!- Textmode has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:35:23 dpeg: well, it no longer attempts to recite once the thing becomes un-imprisoned 13:35:50 arguably, with pre-current-trunk-recite-fix, this would have been a buff (it was unlikely to actually affect them, and while rare, it could've hasted them) 13:36:16 in the context of recite now actually doing something, imprison not reciting is a (somewhat preemptive) nerf 13:36:43 mostly, though, one for flavor reasons: it would feel really dumb for a monster to be locked away, then get out, then immediately burst into holy flames 13:38:13 Eronarn: the idea was that the monster might leave the prison confused, angry, asleep, dead... 13:39:28 (might be better to do that with a function on its own rather than recycling Recite, of course) 13:40:19 dpeg: One idea I have had is this: 13:40:47 -the anti-heretic recite can convert enemies to Zin (as allies, rather than as neutrals, which is more the domain of Ely) 13:41:26 -you only get one attempt and it only works if they are Zin-eligible (e.g., not undead) and it is power based / not guaranteed / somewhat rare 13:42:11 -Imprison will simply cage things, unless you use it on something which is able to be converted via preaching at it: in this case, you get an attempt (even if you already have tried), at much higher power 13:42:22 -!- cw__ has joined ##crawl-dev 13:43:35 yes, in any case it'd be fun if monsters are changed after prison (sometimes only, of course) 13:44:16 yeah, the primary reason i have not implemented it yet is that i am not sure of what frequency / power seems appropriate 13:44:38 -!- cw_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:44:55 doesn't have to be often 13:45:19 anyway, got to go 13:45:21 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:45:56 hmm, how would i go about renaming/coloring placed walls, anyhow 13:53:22 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 13:54:11 just bought a +0 robe of the Archmagi for 14 gold. it was unidentified 13:55:34 huh... it loosk like imprison doesn't actually use power 13:58:06 greensnark: http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/rss/cdo.php :D 13:58:24 oh wait, it uses it for duration 13:58:48 just for the record - finding out what module in php to use to work with sqlite3.. a true pain in the butt! 13:59:58 so anyone know how this map_marker stuff works? need to figure out how i can recolor walls, but then de-color them once the effect fades 14:03:04 oh, found it, nevermind 14:03:40 Keskitalo: check the rss feed again, i think you will like it better now 14:04:40 oh, good thing i checked here 14:04:52 this is where the recite effect actually is applied 14:08:27 ...hahah. if you imprison something while it's standing next to a rock wall, it digs :| 14:08:41 it does not check to see whether the walls adjacent were made by recite 14:12:08