00:00:02 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 00:31:11 Windows development builds on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-2312-g9eec9bd 00:49:18 -!- OG17 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:50:12 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 03:02:11 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 03:02:26 -!- OG17 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:19:16 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:38 -!- monky has quit [Quit: hello] 03:39:47 -!- Noom has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:17 amnesia scroll supposed to dont autoident+dont used if you cancel fogetting spell? 03:40:20 by escape 03:41:54 no 03:42:00 I thought I fixed that 03:42:14 hmm maby i dont transfer new ver 03:42:29 no you dont 03:44:16 what version are you playing? 03:44:36 hmm sec 03:45:07 @dump 03:45:07 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/noom/noom.txt 03:45:21 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.8.0-a0-2286-g8c8a986 character file 03:48:06 I fixed the bug just after the release of this version 03:48:11 oh 03:55:05 Noom: on CDO? 03:55:29 doh, yeah 03:55:43 sure im 03:58:50 kilobyte: how do I find out the last commit from the full version number? g8c8a986 is not a commit number, is it? 03:59:49 you can use the string provided, 0.8.0-a0-2286-g8c8a986, as an argument to git's commands 04:00:13 like, git log 04:01:32 the part after g is a hash prefix 04:01:49 ok, thanks 04:02:22 the full LOOOONG documentation is in "man git-rev-parse" 04:02:40 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-2312-g9eec9bd (31.9) 04:04:03 ok, I can confirm I introduced the bug just before the release of the 2286 version and fixed it just after :( 04:04:24 thanks for updating CDO and cleaning my mess :) 04:04:56 hey, the "unstable" version needs this from time to time to prove its name :) 04:05:13 and I for one do more than my share of introducing new bugs :p 04:05:34 the commit id is a 40 character cryptographically-secure-random hex string 04:05:47 any unique prefix is good enough for git commands 04:06:11 which is good because anything much longer than 9eec9bd would be nigh impossible to remember 04:06:46 number of required digits is statistically O(log ((repo size * repo age) ^ 2)); I think Linux is up to 9 04:14:44 the output of "git describe" is both human readable and better than the short prefix 04:15:17 since you rarely have many branches with the same number of commits, so taking 7 hex digits is actually an overkill 04:22:08 and is there any way I can find out CDO's version when I'm at "some place from where I can't connect to it"? 04:30:28 No. Any such place would necessarily be an Internet site, and if you can connect to random Internet sites you can connect to CDO. 04:30:30 grepping doy's log of this IRC channel :p 04:30:44 Unless you wanted us to email it to your corporate inbox or skywrite it 04:30:59 -!- monky has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:02 are you behind some nazi http-only proxy? 04:31:21 Even if he was he could still connect to CDO 04:31:33 CDO runs an httpd... it has a blog and everything 04:32:05 I suppose galehar's work could be blacklisting Crawl sites specifically. If this is true, I am deeply honored. 04:32:11 kilobyte: yes 04:32:27 I doubt there's the exact version number anywhere on the site. There are Windows builds, but they are not in sync with DGL. 04:32:44 exactly 04:33:03 I can connect to CDO's website, but the version number isn't there 04:33:08 and I can't ssh 04:34:09 I thought the windows builds were synced now 04:34:25 there's no blacklist, just http only 04:34:34 if you want a ssh-over-http proxy, or hell, even over DNS, just say so :p Show me a place that does filter DNS. 04:35:19 http or https? 04:35:24 I tried to set up an ssh-over-http 04:35:37 but the proxy doesn't support CONNECT 04:35:49 I can do https 04:36:11 kilobyte: you keep talking about this TCP-over-DNS tunnelling service. Does it exist anywhere other than your own head? 04:36:34 I even had some success with httptunnel, but it wasn't stable. 04:36:58 http://www.dnstunnel.de/ 04:37:28 sorear: AJAX over DNS which I repeatedly mentioned before is something else 04:38:34 TCP over DNS wouldn't help. DNS is filtered of course. I have to use an internal server. 04:38:36 sorear: the DNS tunnel carries real IP traffic, what I talked about before is doing something simpler from javascript where you can't transmit data in less than three halftrips otherwise 04:38:58 but this looks awesome to hijack public wifi 04:39:42 using the company's DNS server is just fine -- it will recurse your requests unless it is specifically configured not to 04:40:30 it's not arbitrary traffic that just happens to use port 53, it is a stream of valid DNS requests 04:41:47 ok, I'll try, thanks :) 04:42:16 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43:42 * sorear idly wonders what would happen if somebody set up a bunch of DNS-tunnelled tor entry nodes 04:45:41 heh 04:46:12 Debian has "iodine" which is an incompatible but more powerful version of the same 04:46:40 package or *.debian.org service? 04:47:02 package 04:48:51 -!- Soadreqm has joined ##crawl-dev 04:58:42 useless statistics for the day: out of 292397 objects in the Perl 5 git repo, 240 share 2 leading digits with their preceding sorted neighbor, 3840/3, 60689/4, 190412/5, 34658/6, 2383/7, 149/8, 11/9 04:59:13 so, in one of the largest git repos in existance, 12 digits suffice for all objects, 7 for 99% of them 05:00:03 what about crawl? 05:00:43 crawl is much smaller and much younger than Perl 5 (which dates to 1983 and includes a copy of the history of all of the standard modules) 05:01:08 (yes, the Perl 5 git repo is several times older than git. Ain't history migration great?) 05:01:28 yeah, I know. I mean how many digits do we need? 05:01:43 I could rerun the stats for crawl, but I can't think of a good way to get an object list 05:02:04 I'm scraping git-verify-pack -v output, but it's *slow* (~3ms per object) 05:02:16 ok, don't bother. it's really not important :) 05:03:53 huh, 160912 objects 05:04:07 I expected crawl-ref would be more like 0.2% the size, not 60% 05:04:20 I guess we're much more active :) 05:04:22 "git describe" does check if the prefix is unique and uses a longer one in that case, so there's no risk of conflicts (beyond those of SHA) 05:05:11 * sorear should ask github what the longest common prefix is 05:06:14 40 :p 05:06:41 eh? 05:06:51 github has already hit a sha1 collision? 05:06:55 not sure if any two strings which hash to the same SHA are known, though 05:07:04 did somebody brute-force sha1 while I wasn't looking? 05:07:14 (I know they did md5) 05:07:39 I mean, if such a pair is known, you can count on people injecting two such objects to public servers the very same day 05:09:31 git only hashes valid objects 05:10:09 or are you saying that any sort of distributed sha1 crack effort would focus on things formatted as git blobs? 05:11:00 does the object's hash include some metadata? I though it's purely the contents, with metadata being stored in the tree. 05:11:26 I never looked at git's filesystem closely though, so it's an uneducated belief and may be wrong 05:20:43 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 05:38:50 I did it! 05:38:56 dynamic aptitudes! 05:39:05 finally working! 05:39:06 :) 05:41:16 meow 05:42:32 galehar: Sounds like something that ought to be hardcoded to read-once everywhere. 05:43:13 I replaced crosstraining skill points bonus by an aptitude bonus 05:43:31 to avoid reskilling abuse 05:43:55 sorear: I have a probability p which is a rational number, and want to roll either p^0.9 or p^1.2 (the exponents don't have to be exact). What would be a decent way to do this using integers? A wild approximation is ok. 05:44:06 my math skills are about gone :( 05:45:06 why using integers, ooc? 05:45:52 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:14 you're right, it's not in a place where speed matters 05:47:18 the best solution I can come up with involves CORDIC-family calculation 05:47:24 which is going to be slower than the FPU 05:47:37 (how many years have FPUs been standard on PCs?) 05:49:18 you could precalculate a LUT for pow(random2(1000) / 1000, 1 / 1.2) and then compare that to p 05:49:56 I didn't mean that level of accuracy :p 05:50:14 well, FPUs came to arm just very recently 05:50:19 already 2518 so-called ??bad ideas 05:50:54 stupid and a waste of resources to carry them around... should be deleted daily 05:51:02 even not all arm v7 have hard float 05:51:23 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:24 cheers 05:51:29 !seen Napkin 05:51:30 I last saw Napkin at Thu Nov 4 10:50:54 2010 UTC (36s ago) saying stupid and a waste of resources to carry them around... should be deleted daily on ##crawl-dev. 05:51:35 Napkin: yeah... there's like 50 which are funny, at most 05:51:38 Napkin: I've implemented some of them. 05:51:59 Napkin: Hi! What should be deleted? 05:52:01 oh? so they are actually read then? nevermind me then :) 05:52:09 Napkin> already 2518 so-called ??bad ideas 05:52:11 Napkin> stupid and a waste of resources to carry them around... should be deleted daily 05:52:18 Also, Arxale implemented that piety-on-main-screen idea :) 05:52:47 It's partially my fault... I told people that bad idea #666 would be implemented. 05:53:00 galehar: about Arxale's other patches... several days ago, you said you're going to handle them. Is that still the case? 05:53:23 dpeg: deletions shift the numbers, so it's hard to say _which_ #666 05:53:44 I wasn't serious, but it made players add bad ideas like crazy :) 05:53:45 feel free to start reviewing them, I won't be able to keep the pace with him anyway 05:53:58 Folks, do we want to invite Arxale to the party? 05:54:06 I have been busy with crosstraining as aptitudes 05:54:15 Someone has to review his patches once, though. 05:54:35 sure 05:55:10 kilobyte: re Ash. Feel free to ignore my first todo topic. The others are good, I think. 05:55:38 I tried to apply his spider clinging patch, and there are some parts which he coded in a really weird way 05:55:45 Why and when did we use "spriggan" etc. for monster size descriptions? 05:55:54 kilobyte: ah, okay 05:56:00 * dpeg secretly hopes it wasn't his idea. 05:56:15 like, there's a redundant DUR_WALL_CLINGING and hacks to make sure it always lasts exactly as long as DUR_TRANSFORM to spider 05:57:05 f51a42e9ed7ae0e17c1361bb16ffbd571602c1f5, by doy 05:57:05 Still, we should encourage him to lead his youthful energy into more commits... need more implementables, I guess. 05:57:25 I don't recall the discussion before that... 05:57:44 well, committing his patches would be the first thing to do to encourage him 05:59:59 have to go 06:00:43 see you later 06:01:05 kilobyte: so yes, if you have the time to commit Arxale's patches, that'd be <3 06:04:18 Getting patches committed is indeed incentive to make more ;) (I tend to kinda go in monomanical phases in stuff I focus on; eventually I'll be back around and make another batch, most likely :P) 06:04:39 I'll go with the spider clinging one first, as I looked at it before 06:05:22 Twinge: yay! 06:05:37 kilobyte: thank you. His interface stuff will be less controversial, I think. 06:17:34 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 06:19:56 valrus: hi! 06:20:21 hello! just so you know, it's 4am here and I have to go to work in about a half hour :P 06:31:25 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:44:44 -!- galehar_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:30 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:59:27 -!- Twilight-1 has joined ##crawl-dev 06:59:27 -!- Guest84031 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:08:51 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 07:36:48 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 07:42:27 03kilobyte * r5463161aea27 10/crawl-ref/source/coordit.cc: Reduce a series of redundant comparisons. 07:42:28 03kilobyte * rc438898a13c1 10/crawl-ref/source/ (coordit.cc coordit.h): s/spiral_iterator/equidistant_iterator/g (dpeg) 07:42:32 03kilobyte * rae71d771f63a 10/crawl-ref/source/ (11 files): Don't save you.clinging nor the walls, this data can be recreated. 07:42:44 03gafrie * rd007f26fafd3 10/crawl-ref/source/ (24 files in 2 dirs): Wall clinging 07:44:00 -!- galehar_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49:16 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:53:24 kilobyte: thank you! 08:03:07 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:14:07 kilobyte: about arxale patches. I still have a few things to do before I can start reviewing them. If you have the time, I suggest you start by the first (older) ones, and when I can, I'll do the more recent ones. 08:14:18 this way we won't step each other toes 08:15:12 also, about the first one (more info when missing), as I stated on the wiki, I'm not too fond of damage punctuation when missing 08:19:09 Really?!?!!! Why???!!1!-e^iÏ€ 08:19:29 :) 08:20:46 -!- upsy has joined ##crawl-dev 08:21:30 he also said something about high dispersion of margin values making the messages too random 08:31:38 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:07 Soadreqm (L6 TrCK) ASSERT(t != NON_ENTITY && t < MAX_TRAPS) in 'traps.cc' at line 878 failed. (D:4) 08:35:24 oh nice 08:35:31 trap mimic? 08:35:39 !copysave Soadreqm 08:35:39 Usage: !copysave . Name is case-sensitive. Reason must not be empty. 08:35:45 @copysave Soadreqm 08:35:48 Damn. 08:35:59 I really need to have time to fix those. 08:36:09 Should probably disable generation for the minute. 08:36:13 I think it was a moving Xom staircase or something. 08:36:30 Really, I have no idea. 08:37:23 But it was like D:4 and I think that's too shallow for trap mimics. 08:37:31 It is waay too shallow for trap mimics. 08:37:38 Can you copy the save from the menu for me? 08:38:27 Actually, I already had time to die and start a new game. Will that be a problem? 08:40:24 Yeah, don't worry about it :) 08:40:35 But if it happens again, would you be able to do that? 08:40:48 How do I do that? 08:41:22 Oh, yeah, here. Advanced options, 'B'ackup save game? 08:41:38 Yup :) 08:42:07 Yeah, I'll try to remember that if I run into any more crashes. :) 08:51:54 Morning 09:09:38 anyone know if spider form was changed to be more ash-friendly? 09:09:57 -!- hashc has joined ##crawl-dev 09:13:17 Eronarn: I don't see how wall clinging is related to Ash 09:15:19 kilobyte: i mean the cursed item melding 09:15:33 wasn't sure if that was changed yet 09:17:37 due: you got me. "Why the hell Ash didn't announce this lab? Is something broken? It must be about to expire, I must run for it!" Boom. 09:17:52 03dolorous * r2af12ea48461 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc player.cc): Implement curare adjustments. 09:18:04 oh that reminds me 09:18:46 due: portal and trap mimics show up in zigs and it's really, really, really obvious 09:23:14 -!- hashc has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 09:30:10 how come Wiglaf sees invisible? 09:41:50 -!- monky has quit [Quit: hello] 09:47:17 -!- monky has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:55 03dolorous * r9ba6109ceb26 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Properly mark Paracelsus the unique as not having a zombie. 10:09:11 You have reached level 10! Cursed equipment will now meld into your body when transforming into a vampire 10:09:14 _bat. 10:09:15 um, really? wow. 10:16:06 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:30:44 How do you see the % of all games won in ##crawl? 10:35:26 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 10:47:18 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 10:50:34 !lg * / won 10:50:34 3364/837160 games for *: N=3364/837160 (0.40%) 10:54:22 warning when including a file with -extra-opt-last (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2806) by galehar 11:03:23 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 11:05:47 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 11:06:06 so I just saw a mail about tweaking the cross training 11:06:09 hmm, why is one of mutations I have colored in white? 11:06:21 It mentions "reskilling" 11:06:26 What is that about? :O 11:06:56 11:07:01 demonspawn race-specific are purple, the ones from the potion of mutation are red - what does the white colored mutation mean? 11:07:51 Napkin do you have a god that gives muts? 11:07:58 Maybe a polymorph spell? 11:08:01 makhleb 11:08:15 seems like it was a mutation from potions - because cure mutation removed it 11:08:30 That cures it when demons mutate you too, right? 11:08:47 maybe red = bad mut, white = good mut? 11:08:59 and there i was, thinking that demonspawn always get fire-resistance 11:09:04 i would think so now, elliptic 11:09:11 seems much more likely than remembering the source, since all non-racial muts are treated the same 11:09:52 didn't understand that question, Vandal - come again? 11:10:05 Potions, they cure demon caused mutations, right? 11:10:10 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:16 no, they didn't 11:10:21 They don't? 11:10:26 O_O 11:10:38 03kilobyte * r0cf59cb33f4d 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Remove see invis from Wiglaf, there's no reason he should have it. 11:10:39 I don't mean demonspawn 11:10:43 I mean a demon monster mutates you 11:10:48 03kilobyte * rf577fa4265ac 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/descript/spells.txt player.cc transform.cc): Remove the restriction for cursed gear blocking transformations. 11:10:53 oh, i think so 11:10:55 always have 11:12:11 afair 11:20:36 vandal: the source of the mutation doesn't matter so long as it isn't a racial mutation 11:20:46 roger, that was what I thought 11:20:55 I was suggesting he might have gotten them from a monster 11:35:47 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:27 so in spiderform as as vampire, i'm able to drain corpses for blood; is this the vampire drain, or did spiderform finally get the ability to drain corpses 11:56:00 Eronarn, I think that's vampire drain. 11:56:54 okay, then i think the vampire drain-blood-while-biting isn't happening in spiderform 11:56:57 if one happens, both should 11:57:29 unless that got changed so it doesn't happen while above satiated, i guess 11:57:40 it's been a while since vamps were implemented so i might've missed something 12:02:07 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: Page closed] 12:02:58 03dolorous * rb444bcefee41 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add another formatting fix. 12:11:54 random feature request: if you have anything active that boosts your straight unarmed punching damage, replace 'Nothing wielded' with whatever your primary weapon is 12:12:37 blade hands already does this, but trolls/felids/ghouls could get 'claws', spider form could get 'venomous fangs', etc. 12:13:01 it would help to indicate that you're in a form where fighting unarmed is better than normal 12:14:27 also, anyone have an idea why q - 6 scrolls of detect curse 12:14:33 is showing up on my wield list? 12:38:32 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:39:42 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 12:52:16 -!- blabber has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:58:02 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 12:59:58 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 13:33:25 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 13:37:55 -!- Kurper has joined ##crawl-dev 13:41:24 lots of new names today 13:46:50 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:50:09 -!- Soadreqm has quit [Quit: Lähdössä] 13:50:57 oh what the hell 13:51:13 death oozes in lair? :I 13:51:32 jelly room or did they come up from Slime 13:51:39 or part of a slime entry? 13:52:17 a jelly room, with 4 of them 13:55:17 death oozes in lair have always been possible 13:59:34 oh neat, scroll of detect curse is a weapon now! 14:01:34 Kurper: knowledge is power 14:02:18 wield-evoke instead of reading? 14:02:20 heh 14:03:16 Zannick: idk, but pressing w includes my scrolls of detect curse and potions of agility along with my swords 14:03:32 nothing else though 14:06:25 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:08:36 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:22 -!- valrus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:58 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 14:18:26 something is wrong with scroll of curse jewellery frequency 14:19:13 my game has had 12 scrolls of curse jewellery and 0 scrolls of curse weapon or curse armour 14:23:43 http://crawl-ref.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=crawl-ref/crawl-ref;a=blobdiff;f=crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc;h=c66801ab852787a9f28a6ab3f25a9cd15302681f;hp=f4ddce0f4d17b3de2303ed0c84479050e5abcd90;hb=bb817e56d72c47585c14c5c071740a2b2ba755ea;hpb=04e10fe3d2df630527b3164d0b01b107d5321ed7 14:23:46 this looks fine to me 14:24:27 yeah, I don't see anything wrong with the code either, so maybe I'm just hitting the 3^(-12) chance of this happening 15:11:15 -!- blabber has quit [Quit: leaving] 15:30:35 -!- blackflare has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:36:25 -!- blackflare has joined ##crawl-dev 15:51:04 Potion of Agility and Scroll of Detect Curse show up in wield screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2807) by kurper 15:56:24 03galehar * r179f00214b6f 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc: Move the call to init_skill_order() after skill points have been distributed 15:56:27 03galehar * r9840592f7d62 10/crawl-ref/source/ (7 files): Get rid of the old species_skill() function 15:57:29 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:00:26 -!- galehar has joined ##crawl-dev 16:59:10 03kilobyte * r1d3c2f70c92d 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/portals/trove.des: Fix outdated comments. 16:59:14 03kilobyte * r96193c7807d6 10/crawl-ref/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Don't generate outright useless troves. 17:01:29 Ghoul hunger bug(s) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2808) by Mental Mouse 17:12:06 -!- galehar has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630]] 17:16:34 Ghouls rip corpses, *then* get prompted for weapon. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2809) by Mental Mouse 17:26:56 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Quit: Computer went to sleep] 17:31:02 what would be a decent interface for scrolls of acq for Felids? 17:32:21 just don't list all the types they can't use? 17:32:51 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 17:33:40 since acquirement is rare enough that the letters being different probably wouldn't matter 17:33:41 it looks a bit silly 17:34:30 reordering the letters would take more work 17:34:56 oh, so you just have gold/book/food etc floating on the right of the message area? 17:39:29 all right, up to 15 scrolls of curse jewellery and 0 scrolls of curse weapon or curse armour 17:39:37 the message merging breaks it: 17:39:40 [c] Jewellery [d] Book; [g] Miscellaneous [h] Food [i] Gold 17:39:54 I wonder if floating to the right would look better 17:41:00 elliptic: I checked it before in my game, noticed I know the scrolls so they must have generated, but now I realized Ash brings knowledge of those... 17:41:24 elliptic: do you have curse weapon and armour in your stash filter? 17:41:35 marvinpa: no, I commented out those lines long ago 17:41:36 they're in it by default but jewellery isn't 17:41:38 ah 17:42:27 stuff like noise and immolation gets found by ^F as normal 17:42:38 and I'm pretty sure they just haven't generated 17:42:51 but the code looked okay when I took a quick look, so I don't know 17:46:44 Freed slaves do not shout when they notice enemies (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2810) by camino 18:00:11 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:06:11 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:23:57 -!- hashc has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:02 kilobyte: mwahahaha 18:32:19 yay, finally found a scroll of curse armour ... they do exist! 18:35:34 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:51 Paracelsus sucks halfling extremities... even if the concept of an alchemist unique is promising. 18:41:49 Is this a proposal or did somebody just slip up and implement it? 18:41:54 the name is bad as well... unlike Nikola who uses a name that's popular in some regions, and was used by a crapload of kings and what not, there was only one person named Paracelsus 18:41:56 * sorear is still waiting for Nikola to be fixed 18:42:48 sorear: he's in trunk as a part of blue_anna's Dwarf branch that was recently scaled down 18:42:53 kilobyte: berserk seems to be broken, I spent 30 some turns walking around waiting for it to end, and it only did once I pressed "s" 18:43:23 I berserked from the spell if it matters 18:43:54 st_: how did you walk? 18:44:20 st_: considering that I recently split it from Haste, that's pretty damn likely 18:44:26 delayed actions, like butchering and autoexplore, have never triggered berserk penalty 18:44:43 I was just walking normally 18:45:17 actually, it's anything other than butchering and fighting 18:46:35 sorear: shouldn't autoexplore be functionally identical to walking? 18:48:25 can someone help me make a patch correctly 18:49:59 TGWi: it is, it uses real walking 18:50:01 TGWi: should yes 18:50:23 kilobyte: (7:44:25 PM) sorear: delayed actions, like butchering and autoexplore, have never triggered berserk penalty 18:50:49 any time I say something like that, assume I added "... before I left the project" 18:50:56 it's possible this has been fixed since then 18:53:52 actually, there IS a bug 18:54:06 repeating commands with ` fails to trigger the penalty 18:54:20 er, no, I'm wrong 18:55:11 ` merely places the command to do in the buffer and then ends the 0-duration turn so the command will be executed next, with proper penalty 19:07:14 03kilobyte * r172ec7fd8bc6 10/crawl-ref/source/acquire.cc: Felids: disallow weapon/armour/staff/wand acquirement via scroll/genie. 19:07:30 03kilobyte * rbcac6ba5b689 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Fix infinite berserk walking. 19:08:06 -!- Moriasc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:08:36 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:08:43 -!- Moriasc_ is now known as Moriasc 19:09:00 I'm updating CDO so people won't abuse the berserk thingy. 19:13:27 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-2327-gbcac6ba (31.9) 19:13:45 yay! 19:13:50 forms allowing merging! <3 19:14:06 uhhh 19:14:19 I transfered, and I think it's crashing on loading my save 19:14:27 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14:29 where are my crash milestones 19:14:30 :( 19:14:49 do segfaults fail to produce milestones? 19:14:55 monky: could you !copysave? 19:15:14 http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/MrMisterMonkey-bcac6ba-101105-0015.tar.bz2 19:15:28 ASSERT(which_species >= 0 && which_species < NUM_SPECIES) in 'species.cc' at line 116 failed. 19:15:31 thanks 19:17:15 hrm, no crash for that save on my box 19:17:21 hm 19:17:43 ZChris13 from ##crawl seems to be crashing on startup too 19:17:49 mine is crashing also: http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/clouded-bcac6ba-101105-0017.tar.bz2 19:21:02 yeah, same with me 19:22:00 I can't seem to reproduce this in any way... yet it's quite obvious what could be the cause 19:22:27 I'll plug it blindly for now and then continue thinking without a need to hurry 19:24:01 03kilobyte * rf7e4a11785d7 10/crawl-ref/source/maps.cc: Don't try to match racial tags if the race is invalid. 19:25:21 Unstable branch on CDO updated to: 0.8.0-a0-2328-gf7e4a11 (31.9) 19:29:14 Your transformation has ended. 19:29:14 You feel resistant to cold. You fall off the wall. 19:29:15 awesome 19:29:40 also, i didn't get a boundedness message chance when i tmuted, so either it's not displaying messages due to merging, or merging isn't affecting the # of cursed items worn for ash 19:29:59 i don't think merging affects it, which makes sense 19:31:03 if you have them melded, you still can't remove them 19:31:31 plus, having different formulas while transformed would make the logic really complex 19:31:56 keeping forms on permanently to maintain boundedness seems undesirable 19:32:02 it should just count merged stuff 19:34:11 it does 19:34:28 yeah but you can't expect me to read ten entire lines of text to figure that out 19:41:21 -!- Kurper has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:42:43 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:55:34 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:55:57 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:05 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:58:20 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 20:24:14 -!- Twinge has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 20:37:42 Airstrike doesn't complain about lack of enemies (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2811) by xyblor 20:45:58 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 21:02:48 -!- enne has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:08:05 kilobyte: when you did the speed change, did you change random panlord speeds? 21:08:12 because they can get up to speed 24 21:11:08 -!- enne has joined ##crawl-dev 21:27:25 03dolorous * r8635456a1ef8 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-goditem.h: Make the prototype for cast_smiting() match the function. 21:52:42 anyone able to help with a git question? 21:53:33 -!- MarvinPA has quit [] 21:57:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 22:02:55 03dolorous * rdb7c4a34efaa 10/crawl-ref/source/mgen_enum.h: Add comment. 22:09:23 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 22:16:05 -!- valrus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:27:53 -!- upsy has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:45:07 -!- Noom has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20:41 -!- Eronarn_ has joined ##crawl-dev 23:21:36 -!- Eronarn_ has quit [Client Quit] 23:32:30 -!- TGWi has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:34:01 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:44:56 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 23:58:12 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev