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01:46:22 <Ashenzari> Vampire cannot evoke invisibility from items while bloodless (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2294) by Matekoni
01:51:24 <Ashenzari> rename nightstalker (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2295) by TGW
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02:14:20 <doy> alright, 5 runes collected, options down to slime, blade, and the mara/angel/curse skull area
02:15:27 <doy> down 10 maxhp, and the only healing available is a single potion of healing
02:15:50 <casmith789> is this the MiMo of makhleb?
02:16:12 <doy> !lm sprint
02:16:12 <Sequell> No milestones for sprint.
02:16:17 <doy> !lm . sprint
02:16:17 <Sequell> 217. [2010-08-17] doy the Politician (L16 SpEn) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 15783. (Sprint)
02:16:24 <casmith789> ah.
02:16:33 <Ashenzari> Allow small_more regardless of clear_messages settings (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2296) by OG17
02:18:15 <Henzell> trucutru the Fencer (L27 SEAs) ASSERT(!(flags & SPFLAG_TARGETING_MASK) || in_bounds(pbolt.target)) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1735 failed on turn 120462. (Zot:5)
02:18:33 <Henzell> trucutru the Fencer (L27 SEAs) ASSERT(!(flags & SPFLAG_TARGETING_MASK) || in_bounds(pbolt.target)) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1735 failed on turn 120463. (Zot:5)
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02:44:17 <doy> mennas is serious business
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03:07:49 <kilobyte> yay, termcast is down, can't watch splats :(
03:08:16 <Adeon> do not use "yay" and ":(" in the same line
03:08:33 <Adeon> it will confuse the robots
03:17:35 <due> why do monsters get a free turn after being stabbed?
03:17:43 <due> you stab, then they wake up and can kil you.
03:29:25 <by> first you move, then they move if they're not dead
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03:35:56 <by> silence radius is hard to see if you're in water
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03:41:05 <by> !lm crash -log
03:41:05 <Sequell> No milestones for crash.
03:41:09 <by> !lm * crash -log
03:41:10 <Sequell> 102. trucutru, XL27 SEAs, T:120463 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/trucutru/crash-trucutru-20100817-071832.txt
03:48:47 <by> looks like an orb of fire somehow ended up with a bone dragon as foe but no target
03:48:57 <due> strange
03:52:38 <by> !tell greensnark termcast.org seems to be back up, but FooTV is missing -- could you restart or make it reconnect?
03:52:38 <Henzell> by: OK, I'll let greensnark know.
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04:39:17 <due> hi muuu
04:39:29 <Mu_> helloo
04:40:53 <by> Mu_: great work on the sprint map -- it's come quite a long way since when I tested it a bit
04:41:04 <Mu_> thanks :)
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04:49:07 <due> it's amazing, imho
04:49:10 <due> and terrifying
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04:56:07 <casmith789> can we change the name to crawl marathon instead of crawl sprint :p
04:57:31 <Ashenzari> Dead slaves cannot thank you for their freedom (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2297) by Nexos
05:02:10 <bhaak> a crystal ball and a seance would fix that
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05:57:05 <greensnark> FooTV is back up now
05:57:05 <Henzell> greensnark: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
05:57:34 <by> cheers
05:57:50 <by> !lg stabwound -tv
05:57:50 <Sequell> 755. Stabwound, XL21 HaTm, T:70000 requested for FooTV.
05:57:55 <by> !lm * crash -tv
05:57:56 <Sequell> 102. trucutru, XL27 SEAs, T:120463 (milestone) requested for FooTV.
06:02:17 <by> hrm, that wasn't very helpful
06:02:40 <greensnark> Out of LOS action
06:03:15 <due> hi
06:03:21 <by> somehow an orb of fire got a friendly bone dragon as foe without having target set to a sensible value
06:05:03 <greensnark> That's unsurprising, the foe/target code is such a mess
06:06:02 <greensnark> The entire monster AI code is some of the worst code remaining in crawl
06:10:19 <greensnark> I see casmith789 finally got the third sprint win :)
06:11:23 <casmith789> :)
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06:30:24 <blue_anna> hey -- anyone on?
06:31:59 <casmith789> 56 people
06:32:08 <blue_anna> :) good morning
06:32:26 <casmith789> afternoon!
06:32:31 <blue_anna> so I had an idea for an item -- how can I create an item?
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07:18:26 <by> blue_anna: what kind of item?
07:32:16 <blue_anna> by, a randart ring - makes sense at first just to copy another item, then work on adding the unique properties
07:32:40 <by> yes
07:33:24 <by> randarts are defined in art-data.txt
07:33:24 <blue_anna> I want to make a new item property {charm} that gives the befriending effect for your race, like Beogh gives - and also gives a tiny chance each turn of summoning a major hostile demon
07:33:54 <blue_anna> then its "the ring of Charms"
07:33:56 <due> ... what's the major hostile demon for?
07:34:12 <blue_anna> its not entirely a boon item
07:34:47 <due> but major hostile demon basically makes it useless.
07:35:04 <due> better to have it aply enslavement
07:35:07 <due> and have it wear off.
07:35:56 <due> passive enslave sounds kinda cool
07:37:16 <blue_anna> due thats more or less the idea yea :)
07:40:16 <blue_anna> where are regular items defined?
07:46:06 <due> hm
07:46:15 <due> defining it as a randart would be easier
07:46:55 <due> as you could then use the passive effect hook
07:48:30 <Moriasc> Just bark at me here if I've done something stupid in my bug report, okay? :)
07:48:33 <Ashenzari> Server hiccup & unable to search stash outside of current branch. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2298) by Moriasc
07:51:57 <blue_anna> hmm
07:55:41 <syllogism> !lm * type=crash
07:55:42 <Sequell> 102. [2010-08-17] trucutru the Fencer (L27 SEAs) ASSERT(!(flags & SPFLAG TARGETING MASK) || in bounds(pbolt.target)) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1735 failed on turn 120463. (Zot:5)
07:55:43 <syllogism> !lm * type=crash -2
07:55:44 <Sequell> 101. [2010-08-17] trucutru the Fencer (L27 SEAs) ASSERT(!(flags & SPFLAG TARGETING MASK) || in bounds(pbolt.target)) in 'mon-cast.cc' at line 1735 failed on turn 120462. (Zot:5)
07:55:45 <syllogism> !lm * type=crash -3
07:55:45 <Sequell> 100. [2010-08-05] Ferret the Grappler (L12 TrHe) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 884 failed on turn 19471. (Lair:7)
07:58:20 <blue_anna> due, that's BOOL I take it? where are BOOL and OBJ defined?
08:02:57 <due> art-data.txt or one of those files should explain allof the different fields and values.
08:03:10 <due> passive effects might not work for worn jewellery and so-on, though...
08:03:38 <due> check out the documentation folder, and read some of the passive effect examples.
08:03:42 <due> i must run now, bye.
08:03:58 <blue_anna> none of this is in the documentation folder :P
08:04:05 <blue_anna> thats for des  -- thanks due
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08:06:14 <Nexos> odd: as a Troggite, I visit a book shop where everything is read besides "k - " in "k - a book of Cantrips" which is in green
08:06:49 <Nexos> Any explanation?
08:11:03 <Keskitalo> greensnark: felirx expressed interest in rewriting monster AI
08:13:13 <Keskitalo> Dunno if he looked at the existing code first, though. =)
08:14:45 <Nexos> Should I !copysave and create a bug?
08:15:45 <elliptic> nexos: I don't remember what the colors mean in shops but is it possible that the cantrips book is the only one you can afford?
08:16:17 <rwbarton> oh yes, I misread your question at first but that's normal
08:16:25 <rwbarton> the books are red because you're under trog
08:16:35 <rwbarton> the letters indicate what you can buy
08:16:56 <Nexos> ah ok... got it
08:17:08 <blue_anna> where is Beogh's passive to befriend orcs you meet defined?
08:18:00 <Nexos> thx
08:50:28 <blue_anna> I did come back
08:50:53 <blue_anna> oop, mt
08:51:22 <greensnark> Keskitalo: An AI rewrite would be pretty nice, yeah
08:51:27 <greensnark> But it's a major task
08:52:01 <blue_anna> how can I define a passive (I guess mutation) that doesnt get picked up as a regular mutation?
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09:00:00 <by> mutations that don't get picked up regularly would just need to have rarity 0: mut-data.h
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09:18:45 <by> going into water ends hog form as a merfolk
09:18:57 <Moriasc> Anyone have any suggestions regarding my stash amnesia? It makes it sort of hard to gear up for the postgame.
09:20:22 <by> Moriasc: haven't had a look yet, but will in a moment; it's unlikely your stash will be restorable easily though
09:20:44 <by> does the tracker not work at all anymore, or did it just lose the old stuff?
09:21:03 <Moriasc> Just lost my old stuff.
09:21:47 <Moriasc> I've gone back to D, and it's successfully finding new items in the old branch, but not any that I discovered prior to yesterday's session.
09:21:57 <by> I'd suggest to continue playing and revisiting the places with stashed stuff manually unless you're desperately low on food
09:22:48 <by> greensnark: do you have a moment to attach Moriasc's copysaved game to https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2298 ?
09:29:42 <by> Moriasc: have you made a character dump and looked at the .lst file? I would assume it's just as incomplete as in-game, but would still be good to know?
09:29:45 <Henzell> Ebonnov the Geomancer (L11 DSEE) ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed on turn 23813. (Volcano)
09:29:59 <Moriasc> by: I'll try!
09:31:01 <by> !lm Ebonnov -log
09:31:01 <Sequell> 54. Ebonnov, XL11 DSEE, T:23813 (milestone): http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ebonnov/crash-Ebonnov-20100817-142945.txt
09:31:53 <Henzell> Ebonnov the Geomancer (L11 DSEE) ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed on turn 23552. (Volcano)
09:32:31 <Moriasc> by: I've seen the log, but how exactly do I find my .lst file? I have no encountered this before.
09:32:51 <by> !dump moriasc
09:32:52 <Henzell> Dump for Moriasc does not exist.
09:32:53 <rwbarton> replace ".txt" by ".lst"
09:33:00 <rwbarton> !dump morri
09:33:02 <Henzell> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Morri/Morri.txt
09:34:49 <Moriasc> Oh okay.
09:35:10 <Moriasc> http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Morri/Morri.lst
09:37:23 <Moriasc> Yes, and it's just as empty.
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09:41:46 <blue_anna> does anything get called when a creature comes into view?
09:45:44 <CIA-42> 03by * rd5ae3bba2042 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Fix a crash when Jiyva worshippers spawn jellies for non-monster-damage.
09:45:51 <CIA-42> 03by * r6b533183f098 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc: Assert that foe is set to a valid value in monster generation.
09:47:36 <by> blue_anna: best look at the Beogh conversion stuff, that occurs on coming into view
09:50:07 <by> !tell greensnark d5ae3bba2042 fixes an 0.7 crash; 6b533183f098 might introduce new ones so don't pick that
09:50:08 <Henzell> by: OK, I'll let greensnark know.
09:51:44 <blue_anna> by, I thought that -- it looks lsike what actually happens is that it generates monsters every so often, as if they are coming into view
09:51:59 <by> no
09:52:25 <by> view.cc::seen_monsters_convert
09:52:33 <by> s/convert/react/
09:53:56 <blue_anna> by hmm ty
09:59:51 <CIA-42> 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r825795062f2c 10/crawl-ref/source/ouch.cc: Fix a crash when Jiyva worshippers spawn jellies for non-monster-damage.
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10:12:20 <st_> I'm getting an error trying to play sprint on cdo... it says "Couldn't find selected Sprint map 'dungeon_sprint_mu'"
10:12:52 <syllogism> trunk?
10:13:23 <st_> doing it from either the main menu or the 0.7.1 menu doesn't work
10:14:27 <Ashenzari> Ghosts should wish luck when dying (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2299) by Voker57
10:14:30 <st_> trying from the trunk menu gives a selection of the first two maps
10:14:45 <greensnark> st_: Oops, I just upgraded CDO, need to schlep in the .des file manually
10:14:45 <Henzell> greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
10:15:18 <syllogism> oh, worked when i tried
10:15:20 <syllogism> maybe you had already done it
10:15:24 <greensnark> No
10:15:27 <greensnark> And I don't have permissions to do it
10:15:43 <syllogism> oh but that was a lugonu character :P
10:16:26 <greensnark> !tell Napkin Can you copy the new sprint .des to CDO 0.7.1 for 8257950
10:16:27 <Henzell> greensnark: OK, I'll let Napkin know.
10:16:48 <greensnark> I forgot that upgrading CDO would leave the .des behind in the old dir
10:19:01 <greensnark> I don't know if Napkin is around, so until he gets to that you'll have to play on CAO :(
10:19:08 <greensnark> CAO really doesn't need the extra load :P
10:22:36 <doy> whew
10:22:46 <doy> where did mennas come from anyway
10:22:52 <greensnark> He's spring loaded
10:22:54 <blue_anna> is SP_ELF set any time you play any ELF, along with the SP_DEEP_ELF or whatever?
10:23:53 <greensnark> blue_anna: No, SP_ELF is unused
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11:07:31 <Nexos> Is it intended that, when you select some 'x - foo' content in a shop to put in the shopping list, all similar entries in the shop are also included?
11:08:35 <greensnark> Nobody really knows what the shopping list is intended to do, since it was written by a person of singularly inscrutable intent and motivation :)
11:08:43 <greensnark> So if it looks odd to you, file a bug
11:08:49 <syllogism> who? :P
11:08:59 <greensnark> syllogism: zelgadis/Matthew Cline :)
11:09:05 <syllogism> assumed as much
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11:19:33 <Nexos> @?ice statue
11:19:34 <Gretell> ice statue (128) | Speed: 16 | HD: 8 | Health: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Flags: 11non-living, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 12cold+++, 10elec++, 03poison | Vul: 04fire | XP: 685 | Sp: b.cold (3d16), throw icicle (3d16), freezing cloud (2d17), ice beast.
11:26:24 <blue_anna> is there a way to get the MONS_ type from the player species? I mean , I can write it manually but it might not be correct
11:28:05 <herself> what are you coding, blue_anna?
11:28:05 <greensnark> There's is_player_same_species, which is a little clumsy but looks like it does what you want
11:28:18 <blue_anna> let me pastebin it
11:28:45 <blue_anna> http://nopaste.dk/p2259
11:28:51 <blue_anna> that item
11:29:57 <herself> :)
11:31:27 <Zannick> line 117 DEMINGOD
11:31:31 <blue_anna> I have to link RING_CHARMS passive to the MUT_PASSIVE_ENSLAVEMENT, and make sure the species and genus stuff is right -- otherwise that's almost good
11:31:55 <blue_anna> Zannick, ty
11:31:56 <Zannick> just fyi :)
11:32:34 <blue_anna> Zannick, I'm kinda hopeful I can drop that whole section
11:32:47 <Zannick> yeah, good luck
11:32:54 <blue_anna> there should be a mon_species(you->species()) but Im not sure there is
11:33:07 <Zannick> typos are really all i can help with right now
11:33:11 * Zannick -> work
11:33:13 <blue_anna> right on
11:34:33 <blue_anna> http://nopaste.dk/p2260 -- highlighting and typo fixed :P
11:37:02 <blue_anna> @?MERMAID
11:37:02 <Gretell> mermaid (10m) | Speed: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 8 | Health: 25-46 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Damage: 10 | Flags: amphibious | Res: 06magic(53) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 348.
11:37:15 <by> that new player character options must use such a function
11:39:15 <by> player.cc:player_mons(), but that's hard-coded to work on you.species
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11:40:22 <greensnark> is_player_same_species seems like the easiest to repurpose
11:40:37 <greensnark> It should be refactored a bit, seems unnecessarily specific
11:40:55 <greensnark> Also mermaids should be genus merfolk, that special case is unnecessary if they're genus merfolk
11:41:18 <blue_anna> greensnark, by, thanks
11:41:24 <blue_anna> that looks good
11:42:39 <blue_anna> greensnark, I call that like you->is_player_same_species(monster) ?
11:42:47 <greensnark> No :)
11:42:57 <greensnark> You look at the function in the source and figure out how it's used :P
11:43:05 <blue_anna> lol :)
11:43:11 <blue_anna> ok (blush)
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11:47:54 <doy> hmmm
11:48:03 <doy> should i go for an all-runer in sprint
11:48:11 <doy> probably a terrible idea
11:48:16 <syllogism> with just makhleb?=
11:48:41 <doy> yeah, that's probably not going to work
11:48:46 <syllogism> not really no :)
11:48:53 <syllogism> if you don't have any good conjurations
11:48:58 <syllogism> or just ninja all the runes
11:49:10 <doy> yeah, ninja-ing the runes was the idea
11:49:31 <syllogism> hard with 2-3 pan lords running around
11:49:34 <doy> yeah
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11:52:57 <blue_anna> greensnark, like this: is_player_same_species(monster->type, you.attribute[ATTR_TRANSFORMATION] != TRAN_NONE)
11:53:32 <greensnark> The second parameter is just true if you want to check transforms, false otherwise
11:53:56 <greensnark> But yeah, that should check if the player and the monster are the same species
12:01:17 <syllogism> meleeing an ancient lich with a dagger? :P
12:01:22 <syllogism> worked though!
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12:05:41 <doy> hasted spriggan with silence, i'm not too worried
12:05:50 <doy> i get the feeling i'm about to run into an orb of fire though
12:05:57 <doy> and that's going to be a pain
12:06:50 <syllogism> well you've been saving that makhleb piety
12:07:15 <syllogism> tiamat first though
12:07:42 <casmith789> if you can get tiamat to change form she's much easier
12:08:10 <syllogism> I wonder what wakes them up
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12:08:44 <doy> change form?
12:08:54 <casmith789> there is mutagenic fog
12:09:00 <doy> ah, right
12:09:00 <casmith789> and she likes wandering
12:10:37 <doy> bah
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12:12:57 <syllogism> @?? tiamat
12:12:58 <Gretell> Tiamat (06d) | Speed: 10 | HD: 22 | Health: 380 | AC/EV: 25/10 | Damage: 60, 45 | Flags: cold-blooded, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(146), 03poison | XP: 13593 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25).
12:14:05 <syllogism> doy maybe you could lead her completely out of zot and leave somewhere :P
12:14:27 <doy> yeah... might be a better idea
12:14:35 <doy> until i run into her on the way out
12:14:36 <doy> d:
12:14:41 <syllogism> you've c.blink
12:15:42 <syllogism> is that all the food you've left
12:16:43 <doy> no, that's where i'm going now
12:16:47 <doy> pick some up
12:17:03 <doy> also, forgot i already lead the killer klown out there
12:17:04 <doy> (:
12:30:51 <rwbarton> doy's game reminds me of one of those sliding block puzzles where you have to move the blocks around forever and nothing seems to be happening
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12:31:23 <syllogism> doy: why bother leading it this far :P
12:31:56 <syllogism> maybe if you get it to blink to elf
12:31:57 <doy> well, was hoping that confuse would work eventually
12:32:48 <by> can't you dump things in the lair branches easily?
12:34:55 <blue_anna> what are the different flags in use with an item? Like Rage has AMU_RAGE and ARTP_RAGE .. there must somewhere be a mapping from objects with AMU_RAGE to the MUT_BERSERK somewhere, but Im missing it
12:36:00 <doy> blue_anna: pretty sure the mutation and item property are implemented separately
12:38:33 <blue_anna> doy, a better example is ring of see invisible .. can you point me in the right direction to understand how is the passive trait implimented?
12:39:29 <blue_anna> because ..I have a passive trait
12:40:02 <blue_anna> http://nopaste.dk/p2263
12:40:07 <blue_anna> I was implimenting it as a mutation
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12:40:24 <doy> if it's an item, you should implement it as an item property, not as a mutation
12:41:02 <syllogism> doy: how is your rf
12:41:19 <syllogism> go back, haste and try c.blink stab?
12:42:01 <doy> bah
12:42:09 <syllogism> might as well spam some 1s
12:42:24 <syllogism> though you could try to just c.blink past
12:42:31 <syllogism> but your mp is currently a bit low
12:45:27 <syllogism> why is that still there :P
12:45:43 <doy> good question
12:45:52 <syllogism> does it say summoned
12:46:08 <blue_anna> doy how do you impliment an item property? Ive been scanning the code but Im not really seeing the structure here
12:49:01 <doy> what's this zot statue going to do to me d:
12:49:15 <by> blue_anna: grep SEE_INVISIBLE *.cc
12:49:31 <syllogism> it has summon eyeballs, shadow creatures, poly ,  haste
12:49:36 <syllogism> and small mammals
12:49:56 <syllogism> you should probably just go for it and apport the orb
12:50:00 <syllogism> and hope it doesnt summon eyes :P
12:50:24 <blue_anna> by its in like 15 files
12:50:51 <syllogism> & soon
12:51:05 <Mu_> he wont have triggered it
12:51:14 <Mu_> stupid slimes eating the orb door
12:51:23 <by> you could skip SPELL_SEE_INVISIBLE and DUR_SEE_INVISIBLE as those are for the spell
12:51:44 <by> and SPARM_SEE_INVISIBLE is for helmets, etc.
12:52:38 <by> this should lead you to player::can_see_invisible among others
12:54:16 <Mu_> nice game doy
12:54:17 <doy> that was a pretty easy run
12:54:26 <doy> was expecting more pan lords
12:54:27 <doy> (:
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12:54:43 <doy> oh, there was an orb door?
12:54:43 <doy> (:
12:54:47 <Mu_> usually you'd trigger one approaching the orb
12:55:02 <Mu_> yeah, the orb is usually contained :P
12:55:08 <Mu_> so you can't apport it
12:55:28 <rwbarton> can you dig the door?
12:56:20 <Mu_> probably if slimes can eat the thing
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13:27:45 <doy> aw, no points for high scoring sprint games
13:29:05 <Zannick> i'd like points for runes
13:29:15 <Zannick> i can actually do at least that much now :P
13:29:53 <doy> (:
13:30:25 <Zannick> if i win my current character i will be happy :)
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14:10:08 <blue_anna> hey herself I think maybe I got it
14:10:16 <blue_anna> this might do it -- http://nopaste.dk/p2264
14:10:56 <blue_anna> I dont really understand itemprop stuff
14:11:27 <blue_anna> and I dont know how to make the item property randart-available
14:11:36 <blue_anna> but at least the individual artifact is good to go
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16:01:33 <Ashenzari> drowning yourself by controlled blinking into deep water is allowed (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2300) by reid
16:03:09 <doy> !lg * when=t ktyp=winning
16:03:09 <Sequell> 201. Objaction the Eclecticist (L27 DSNe), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-17, with 1180997 points after 180142 turns and 17:34:10.
16:03:36 <doy> !lg * when=t ktyp=winning x=cdist
16:03:37 <Sequell> Unknown selector cdist in cdist
16:03:41 <doy> !lg * when=t ktyp=winning x=cdist(*)
16:03:42 <Sequell> Unknown selector cdist in cdist
16:03:45 <doy> !lg * when=t ktyp=winning x=cdist(name)
16:03:45 <Sequell> 201 games for * (when=t ktyp=winning): cdist(name)=76
16:04:03 <doy> !lg * when=t9 ktyp=winning
16:04:04 <Sequell> 286. Grimm the Devastator (L23 HEWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2009-08-31, with 1217340 points after 107377 turns and 6:15:03.
16:04:13 <doy> !lg * when=t9 ktyp=winning x=cdist(name)
16:04:14 <Sequell> 286 games for * (when=t9 ktyp=winning): cdist(name)=90
16:04:37 <elliptic> !lg * when=t x=cdist(name)
16:04:37 <doy> !lg * when=t9 ktyp=winning x=cdist(name) end<=20090817
16:04:37 <Sequell> 38133 games for * (when=t): cdist(name)=904
16:04:38 <Sequell> 164 games for * (when=t9 ktyp=winning end<=20090817): cdist(name)=61
16:04:46 <elliptic> !lg * when=t9 x=cdist(name)
16:04:47 <Sequell> 33869 games for * (when=t9): cdist(name)=737
16:05:16 <elliptic> 25% growth rate
16:05:18 <doy> !lg * x=cdist(name)
16:05:20 <Sequell> 770339 games for *: cdist(name)=7174
16:05:27 <doy> !lg * x=cdist(name) ktyp=winning
16:05:28 <Sequell> 3038 games for * (ktyp=winning): cdist(name)=459
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17:35:06 <blue_anna> what does w:20 mean in a des file?
17:35:21 <blue_anna> in a monster list
17:35:24 <elliptic> weight 20
17:35:33 <elliptic> for weighted randomization
17:35:52 <blue_anna> the ones without weight have a lower chance ?
17:36:15 <blue_anna> I had the idea to repurpose the spider's nest as a dwarf hall of fallen heros
17:36:30 <rwbarton> default weight for everything is 10
17:37:02 <blue_anna> rwbarton, oooh thank you :)
17:37:15 <Zannick> that would be a neat idea
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17:38:03 <blue_anna> I'm using goblins for Nisse
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18:58:36 <blue_anna> how can I add specifically alarm traps to a map ?
18:59:21 <blue_anna> oops, I found it
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19:28:54 <Cryp71c> Erm...wandering mushroom, in a lab?
19:29:05 <pointless_> it got lost
19:29:08 <Cryp71c> lol
19:29:29 <Zannick> wandering, indeed
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19:46:28 <Moriasc> Has anyone any more input regarding the loss of my game's stash data?
19:47:08 <Moriasc> Not knowing where my items are is going to make the rest of it a real chore.
19:48:04 <Moriasc> I have to gather a million enchant weapon scrolls for my trishula :{.
19:48:23 <Moriasc> If there's a way I can access an old .lst file (I think I made an earlier dump), I'd love to know.
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19:55:13 <doy> Moriasc: if you have enough food, you can go back to each level and forget the level map, and reexplore it
19:56:34 <Moriasc> doy: Oh, yes. But that's outright torture! And the game was so fun up until now.
20:06:02 <Moriasc> Forgetting the map is a fine idea, I suppose...
20:15:13 <blue_anna> where are tags defined for . like spider.des
20:16:28 <blue_anna> I converted spiders_nest for a dwarf hall of fallen heros branch .. but there are tags Im not sure what to do with
20:16:37 <blue_anna> http://nopaste.dk/p2265
20:44:08 <rwbarton> CAO seems abnormally slow even given the number of players
20:46:12 <due> erm
20:46:14 <due> Napkin, ping?
20:46:23 <due> Starting Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup Sprint 8257950...
20:46:24 <due> Couldn't find selected Sprint map 'dungeon_sprint_mu'.
20:46:24 <due> Hit Enter to continue...
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20:54:08 <bmh> hey dev
20:55:47 <due> hey dmb
20:58:53 <due> *bmh
20:59:03 <bmh> that's quite the keyboard frameshift error :-)
20:59:19 <due> I'm staring at my keyboard trying to work out how I managed it.
20:59:29 <bmh> you probably saw my name and thought "dumb"
20:59:35 <due> HEHE, nah.
20:59:59 <due> I would've typed dump in that case. I don't know why I didn't just tab-complete like I normally do.
21:00:52 <bmh> what client do you use?
21:00:59 <due> irssi
21:02:15 <bmh> hmm, looks nice and friendly and should play well with a tiling wm
21:02:29 <due> it is excellent
21:02:30 <doy> due: the cdo thing is known, apparently the update script wiped out the sprint map, since that was just copied in (not in git)
21:02:36 <due> ahhh
21:02:45 <due> yeah, I can see that happening
21:02:54 <bmh> sorry, I can never recall, which one of you is in Australia?
21:03:01 * due hands up.
21:04:29 <bmh> I recently started collaborating with some folks at NSW, but anyhow
21:04:53 <due> Anyone have a copy of sprint3?
21:06:17 <due> Ah, never mind, I see what hte issue is.
21:06:20 <due> Who ran the update script?
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21:09:35 <due> I don't really have permission to do anything for it.
21:10:25 <due> And I don't want to fuck around too much with it for fear of breaking things. :)
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22:28:05 <doy> i think tree explosions are a bit much
22:30:20 <doy> just killed the lernaean hydra by zapping a wand of lightning at a tree
22:30:30 <doy> feels like it does a pretty ridiculous amount of damage
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22:38:07 <due> I have totally not been into Crawl this tourney
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