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00:38:01 <Zannick> trying to conjure flame on a tree gives "You can't ignite solid rock!"
00:38:06 <Zannick> :P
00:38:14 <Zannick> what kind of trees did you put in this game?
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03:06:53 <by> re Death's Door, maybe instead of an explicit inelegant cooldown, we could require the player to be at full hp to cast it?
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03:20:24 <kilobyte> by: what's the point of casting DD in the first place if you have full hp?
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03:35:15 <by> rushing through some dangerous place
03:35:28 <by> e.g., making a dash for the orb without appropriate resists
03:36:12 <by> I don't think of death's door as an emergency spell
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03:43:13 <kilobyte> generally, you cast it only after you're already in trouble... before your hp goes down to low levels, you're typically past most of the way already
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03:46:16 <by> so it would be a decent nerf to the spell, without making it useless
03:46:55 <by> could even up the duration a bit if that's considered necessary
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04:16:58 <Keskitalo> Good day!
04:17:44 <due> hi eino
04:19:03 <by> good morning
04:20:43 <Keskitalo> by: You ninja'd me, closing the "give ghouls claws 3" FR (you had a better closing message too!)
04:21:21 <by> oh, sorry :)
04:21:39 <Keskitalo> that was just good :)
04:22:06 <Keskitalo> due: Over the weekend, I designed about a dozen alternate temples (subvaults) for volcano_grotto and volcano_lake, I'll implement and test them sometime and show them to you!
04:22:19 <Keskitalo> *designed them on paper you see
04:23:09 <Keskitalo> so I can't show them yet :)
04:25:05 <due> cool!
04:25:13 <due> Feel free to implement them
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04:39:30 <Keskitalo> due: Alright, I will! :)
04:40:29 <Keskitalo> I think they'll turn out good. Also, subvaultifying portal vaults seems to be a good way to bring variety to them, and also it's much easier than to come up with a full vault.
04:40:41 <Keskitalo> Very nice looking vaults from minmay in the tracker.
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06:22:37 <by> shouldn't it be "Captain's Cutlass" instead of "captain's cutlass"?
06:24:30 <Keskitalo> I think it should.
06:24:44 <due> at least, Captain's cutlass
06:24:48 <by> or that
06:25:52 <by> capitalisation is a bit inconsistent
06:26:17 <due> yeah
06:26:21 <due> Captain should probably be capitalised.
06:26:27 <by> "Spriggan's Knife", "storm bow", "plutonium sword", "Singing Sword"
06:26:45 <due> well, in that case, Captain's Cutlass
06:26:49 <due> plutonium sword and storm bow arefine.
06:27:00 <due> As those are purely descriptive and don't include anything that could be implied as a proper noun.
06:28:03 <by> Mace of Variability but mace of Brilliance
06:28:21 <due> I'd lean towards mace of Variability over Mace of Variability.
06:28:58 <by> this is really a job for mr. consistency, though :)
06:30:56 <due> true :)
06:33:45 <CIA-42> 03by * re1ecd3c55244 10/crawl-ref/source/art-data.txt: captain's cutlass -> Captain's cutlass
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06:36:05 <casmith789> has anyone won sprint 3 as a pure melee char after the trog/makhleb nerf?
06:37:05 <syllogism> probably not
06:37:12 <syllogism> but the nerf was very recent
06:37:20 <syllogism> there wasn't much testing afterwards
06:37:35 <syllogism> and there were only 2-3 active testers anyway
06:38:54 <casmith789> ah
06:38:58 <Mu_> habe, the most overpowered char, could do it imo
06:39:12 <due> I've been doing MiMo as pure melee
06:39:20 <casmith789> well, without abusing trog/makhleb then
06:39:32 <casmith789> no MDFi of oka etc
06:39:39 <casmith789> due: how is that going?
06:40:25 <due> casmith789: lots of deaths
06:40:30 <casmith789> :(
06:40:33 <due> I tried TrMo of Kiku earlier, it was cool.
06:40:44 <casmith789> awesome
06:41:01 <casmith789> Tr, Mo and kiku don't seem to go together though
06:41:08 <casmith789> well Tr and Mo do
06:41:09 <Mu_> best characters for the map are conjurers imo
06:41:11 <due> It worked pretty well
06:41:21 <due> Have the three wins been  done?
06:41:24 <casmith789> what did kiku do? the food?
06:41:25 <casmith789> due: no
06:41:27 <due> oh
06:41:39 <due> casmith789: I was going to go necromut.
06:41:47 <casmith789> ah
06:41:52 <Mu_> two people won about 2 hours after it went live and nobody else has managed to
06:42:03 <Mu_> syllogism did an allrune win to show off but he doesn't count
06:42:05 <Mu_> :3
06:42:06 <casmith789> well syllogism has
06:43:13 <due> syllo is a mongrel ;)
06:44:20 <syllogism> can't you just go kiku, get invo 15+ and then get stone giant zombies and such
06:44:24 <syllogism> or abominations
06:44:56 <due> true
06:45:06 <due> !apt mi
06:45:07 <Henzell> Mi: Air: -3, Armour: 1, Axes: 2!, Bows: 1, Conj: -3*, Xbows: 1!, Dodge: 1, Earth: -3*, Ench: -3, Evo: -3*, Exp: 140, Fighting: 2!, Fire: -3*, Ice: -3*, Inv: -1, Long: 2!, Maces: 2!, Nec: -3*, Poison: -3*, Polearms: 2, Shields: 1, Short: 2, Slings: 1, Splcast: -3, Stab: 0, Staves: 2!, Stealth: -2, Summ: -3*, Throw: 1, Tloc: -3*, Tmut: -3*, Traps: -1, Unarmed: 1!
06:45:22 <casmith789> syllogism's win counts, right? just not for the first 3 prize
06:45:32 <syllogism> counts for what?
06:45:43 <casmith789> the tournament, 50 points for first win
06:46:27 <syllogism> doubt it
06:46:49 <due> i don't think so
06:47:17 <syllogism> kiku + simulacra could also work well
06:47:30 <due> I fucking hate that water elemental
06:47:42 <Mu_> it's cool seein underused spells getting use in the map :P
06:47:49 <Mu_> seen a lot of enslavement and death's door
06:48:15 <casmith789> I will try kiku summons if I get further, see how it does
06:48:23 <casmith789> and yeah I use enslavement loads in sprint
06:49:27 <due> I'm abusing makhleb a lot
06:49:51 <casmith789> don't you run out of piety?
06:49:59 <due> yes
06:50:04 <due> but not that quickly
06:50:15 <syllogism> if you get an executioner you'll get it all back, probably
06:53:02 <syllogism> you could also scum DS until you get demonic guardian early :P
06:53:14 <due> true
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07:02:36 <syllogism> abominations aren't really worth the effort, you are better off animating the corpses
07:02:45 <syllogism> maybe if you get apportations o you can more easily stack them
07:03:51 <syllogism> you are going to get a pretty puny abomination with those corpses
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07:05:27 <greensnark> What, still no third Sprint win?
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07:06:24 <syllogism> casmith789: that's not going to work
07:06:30 <casmith789> why?
07:06:37 <syllogism> you need heavy corpses and quite many
07:06:44 <casmith789> oh okay
07:06:52 <syllogism> and moving them around like that takes long
07:07:00 <syllogism> so they'll start rotting which isn't good
07:07:35 <syllogism> large abominations hit hard though
07:08:28 <greensnark> We need the new Twisted Resurrection mechanism
07:08:47 <greensnark> The one kilobyte proposed where corpses crawl together and merge without you having to play porter
07:09:29 <Mu_> then make it a monster spell
07:09:31 <due> i want that
07:09:36 <syllogism> casmith789: with 4 stone giant corpses you get a 133 hp, 20 ac abomination
07:09:48 <syllogism> with 20 geckos a much worse one
07:09:59 <casmith789> so I need high invo?
07:10:03 <syllogism> yes
07:10:09 <syllogism> but even then it might be better to just animate them
07:10:17 <syllogism> you can always haste your zombies
07:10:31 <Mu_> worship yred imo
07:10:37 <due> yredy<3
07:10:41 <syllogism> @?? stone giant zombie
07:10:41 <Gretell> stone giant zombie (07Z) | Speed: 8 | HD: 16 | Health: 113-154 | AC/EV: 10/0 | Damage: 41 | Flags: 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 1035.
07:10:59 <Mu_> enslave soul one o dem spriggan defenders
07:11:00 <casmith789> 41 damage is decent
07:11:07 <Mu_> o wait enslave is broken right
07:11:14 <syllogism> no
07:11:20 <syllogism> well kind of
07:11:25 <Mu_> they hit for 1?
07:12:30 <syllogism> yes
07:13:01 <syllogism> @?? fire elemental
07:13:01 <Gretell> fire elemental (05E) | Speed: 13 | HD: 6 | Health: 21-45 | AC/EV: 4/12 | Damage: 504(fire:6-11) | Flags: 11non-living, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 05hellfire, 10elec++, 03poison | Vul: 12cold | XP: 196.
07:13:15 <due> @??water elemental
07:13:16 <Gretell> water elemental (02E) | Speed: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 6 | Health: 31-47 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Damage: 25 | Flags: 11non-living, amphibious, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec++, 03poison | Vul: 04fire | XP: 173.
07:13:19 <due> they're really buff
07:13:43 <syllogism> can't open doors though
07:13:46 <Mu_> it's hd4
07:13:57 <syllogism> @?? water elemental hd:4
07:13:57 <Gretell> water elemental (02E) | Speed: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | Health: 20-32 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Damage: 25 | Flags: 11non-living, amphibious, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec++, 03poison | Vul: 04fire | XP: 66.
07:13:58 <Mu_> @?water elemental hd:4
07:13:58 <Gretell> water elemental (02E) | Speed: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 4 | Health: 20-32 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Damage: 25 | Flags: 11non-living, amphibious, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 10elec++, 03poison | Vul: 04fire | XP: 66.
07:14:01 <Mu_> dies a bit quicker
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07:21:27 <syllogism> don't you have animate?
07:21:36 <casmith789> no
07:21:41 <casmith789> is that better?
07:21:57 <syllogism> likely
07:24:14 <by> heh, trog gave me a battle axe of orc slaying early in sprint
07:25:17 <syllogism> casmith789: you get fewer corpses if you don't have room around you
07:25:22 <casmith789> ah
07:25:36 <casmith789> they don't get put in the squares near you instead?
07:25:40 <syllogism> no
07:25:57 <syllogism> that would make stacking them for twisted resurrection really easy
07:31:40 <syllogism> @?? quicksilver dragon zombie
07:31:40 <Gretell> quicksilver dragon zombie (07Z) | Speed: 13 | HD: 16 | Health: 113-154 | AC/EV: 8/10 | Damage: 21, 16 | Flags: 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 2217.
07:32:03 <syllogism> maybe one of those books has recall
07:32:08 <casmith789> yeah
07:32:35 <elliptic> @whereis casmith789
07:32:36 <Gretell> casmith789 the Elven Blade (L27 HERe), a worshipper of Makhleb, saved on Lair:1 on 2010-08-16 after 175002 turns.
07:32:51 <elliptic> talking about sprint?
07:32:58 <casmith789> yes
07:36:50 <syllogism> once you've recall you can probably get so many zombies you can overwhelm anything
07:36:55 <syllogism> and even get silence
07:37:09 <casmith789> well silence stops invocations
07:37:16 <casmith789> but yeah, I see what you mean
07:37:32 <syllogism> recall, order, silence
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07:41:13 <syllogism> casmith789: you should drain those fountains since they refill on their own :P
07:41:42 <casmith789> :)
07:41:47 <elliptic> surely food isn't a problem in sprint with hive
07:41:51 <casmith789> sure it is
07:42:05 <elliptic> !lm casmith789 sprint
07:42:05 <Sequell> 1521. [2010-08-16] casmith789 the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn) killed Maud on turn 9058. (Sprint)
07:43:18 <syllogism> casmith789: now that you got necronomicon, you shouldn't let your piety get too high as piety growth is slower the higher your piety is
07:43:34 <casmith789> okay
07:44:04 <Mu_> did anyone examine the shoals walls yet
07:44:19 <syllogism> I like the question mark
07:44:20 <casmith789> someone else was talking about that before
07:44:26 <Mu_> they have a description too :P
07:44:31 <due> TrPr of Yred is fun
07:45:04 <syllogism> any good zombies yet?
07:45:17 <casmith789> dragon?
07:45:19 <due> Keep dying to stupidity
07:45:48 <syllogism> weren't you going to victory dance summonings so you could get demonology for recall
07:45:54 <casmith789> yeah
07:49:11 <due> one more try
07:52:47 <due> this one's going better
07:52:50 <due> even if i got abyssed
07:55:52 <syllogism> spam some corpses now :P
07:56:02 <due> damn, lag
07:56:12 <due> i thought i had one more safe turn to hit the orc warrior before i should step back and start draining
07:57:45 <rwbarton> I really doubt this will help you any in Zot, it's too cramped
07:57:54 <syllogism> he can lead some things out
07:57:56 <rwbarton> unless you can lure everything out maybe
07:58:13 <due> where's he playing?
07:58:16 <Mu_> it's hilarious all the same
07:58:18 <casmith789> cdo
07:58:26 * due switches servers
07:58:30 <syllogism> what's your piety at
07:58:36 <syllogism> that's a bit high :P
07:58:51 <due> wow spam
07:59:00 <due> <3 mislead
07:59:10 <Mu_> a Mara
07:59:20 <due> does it erally say a Mara/
07:59:24 <due> bugger me I thought I fixed all o those :(
07:59:36 <Mu_> i think it did
08:00:33 <syllogism> casmith789: do ctrl-x
08:00:42 <syllogism> nice
08:00:44 <due> have you enough zombies?
08:00:49 <casmith789> no
08:00:52 <rwbarton> can you cast simulacrum?
08:00:58 <syllogism> you should save every now and then :P
08:01:00 <casmith789> what does it do :p
08:01:06 <due> ball lightning? nasty
08:01:07 <rwbarton> it makes simulacra
08:01:12 <casmith789> from?
08:01:14 <syllogism> @?? stone giant simulacrum
08:01:15 <Gretell> stone giant simulacrum (12Z) | Speed: 8 | HD: 16 | Health: 30-63 | AC/EV: 7/2 | Damage: 4112(cold:16-47) | Flags: 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(6), 12cold+++, 03poison | Vul: 04fire | XP: 465.
08:01:16 <syllogism> chunks
08:01:19 <rwbarton> you get one per wielded chunk
08:01:24 <syllogism> they are temporary but hit really hard
08:01:34 <rwbarton> it's also more work to prepare
08:01:40 <syllogism> and have low hp
08:01:45 <syllogism> with that many zombies dont bother
08:02:07 <casmith789> I need death's door I think
08:02:14 <Mu_> there's loot in that room
08:02:19 <Mu_> if you can fly
08:02:21 <due> Mu_: stop helpng
08:02:47 <Mu_> o :P
08:03:21 <syllogism> those simulacra can oneshot you
08:03:22 <syllogism> dont go near :P
08:03:27 <due> why aren't you dispelling?
08:03:31 <syllogism> he was
08:03:33 <casmith789> I did?
08:03:38 <due> the skele
08:03:46 <greensnark> What the hell, is all of ##crawl-dev backseat driving casmith789's game? :P
08:03:54 <due> greensnark: yes
08:03:54 <syllogism> desperate for third win :P
08:04:06 <syllogism> plus this kiku zombie spam is amusing
08:04:17 <Mu_> i'm gonna worry the map is too hard until someone else wins :3
08:04:28 <greensnark> Folks, don't make me start watching this game
08:04:34 <due> watch it
08:04:36 <due> it is interesting
08:04:40 <greensnark> Mu_: Too hard is good
08:04:53 <greensnark> Mu_: Ignore the wankers who were crying after not being able to beat it yesterday
08:05:11 <casmith789> how did I lose hp
08:05:14 <due> too hard is good
08:05:16 <due> how did you lose hp?
08:05:24 <Mu_> i get anxious when people don't like stuff :P
08:05:25 <greensnark> due: /nick echo
08:05:29 <rwbarton> probably the storm dragon?
08:05:30 <syllogism> you mean you went from 18 to 17?
08:05:31 <due> /nick echo
08:05:33 <casmith789> I lost 1hp under death's door using aa
08:05:34 <casmith789> yeah
08:05:38 <rwbarton> oh
08:05:40 <syllogism> someone mentioned that
08:05:43 <syllogism> probably a kiku related bug
08:05:43 <greensnark> Mu_: Well, you can't please everyone, so don't sweat it :P
08:05:45 <due> that shouldn't happen
08:05:47 <elliptic> torment has that effect
08:05:47 <due> FILE!
08:05:58 <elliptic> I already filed it
08:06:00 <rwbarton> oh
08:06:03 <rwbarton> it's not a bug?
08:06:07 <syllogism> it is
08:06:09 <rwbarton> DDoor HP depends on Kiku piety
08:06:19 <casmith789> aha
08:06:22 <casmith789> good point
08:06:22 <syllogism> he was spamming corpses
08:06:36 <due> is that zot or crypt or vaults?
08:06:41 <elliptic> surely it shouldn't change after casting DDoor though
08:06:41 <syllogism> D
08:06:56 <due> d was not an option
08:07:02 <rwbarton> maybe not, it's sort of unclear
08:07:14 <Mu_> ye it's just a metal D :P
08:07:15 <rwbarton> I mean the HP is only relevant when the effect ends
08:07:17 <elliptic> but yeah, that's clearly what's going on
08:07:46 <greensnark> Why does Sprint generate wands of tele
08:07:49 <greensnark> Do they even work
08:07:54 <syllogism> you can tele monsters
08:07:56 <greensnark> Oh
08:08:01 <due> HAHAHA is that sword in stone?
08:08:06 <syllogism> quad in stone
08:08:10 <Mu_> it's the quad damage :P
08:08:13 <due> that's so cute. <3
08:08:26 <syllogism> I three shotted antaeus with it
08:10:05 <due> "lol"
08:10:12 <due> what was that?
08:10:27 <due> zot trap?
08:13:46 <due> are you gonna win zot with zombies?
08:13:55 <casmith789> what else do I do :p
08:13:57 <Mu_> i'd like to see it :p
08:14:26 * greensnark waits for maprot to strike.
08:14:34 <due> plannts on traps? :)
08:14:47 <rwbarton> zombies are smart enough not to step on zot traps?
08:14:56 <due> do you have three runes?
08:15:03 <casmith789> heh no
08:15:12 <due> sucks to be you :)
08:15:14 <casmith789> oops :p
08:15:28 <syllogism> you should spam a lot of zombies before going to zot anyway
08:15:29 <due> why only two runes?
08:15:31 <syllogism> in some open area
08:15:37 <casmith789> swamp was undead
08:15:44 <greensnark> due: Fix fog generators to overwrite existing lower-valued clouds :P
08:15:58 <casmith789> yeah I thought you'd fix that at some point :p
08:16:18 <greensnark> Players don't report this kind of bug :(
08:16:24 <casmith789> sure we do
08:16:29 <casmith789> just listen in ##crawl
08:16:30 <due> wuss
08:16:35 <casmith789> due: ?
08:16:42 <due> undead swamp is easy
08:16:54 <due> you're dispellomeister
08:17:22 <due> Mu_: why aren't all the trees immune to fire?
08:17:34 <Mu_> how
08:17:36 <syllogism> it's hard enough as it is :P
08:17:45 <due> veto_fire or something like that
08:17:57 <Mu_> some of the trees are supposed to be lightgrey too
08:18:18 <syllogism> do you have insulation
08:18:31 <casmith789> no
08:18:35 <due> you gonna die
08:18:37 <Mu_> can you learn lee's and get the quad? :D
08:18:49 <casmith789> I'm not going to
08:18:50 <casmith789> :p
08:18:50 <syllogism> not worth it
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08:19:42 <rwbarton> go giant bat zombie
08:19:42 <due> giant zmobie ftw
08:19:56 <due> attack it
08:20:20 <due> or let clownie do it
08:20:23 <Mu_> you should try some hells imo
08:20:30 <syllogism> the bat was doing better than you are :P
08:20:46 <doy> are chaos clouds supposed to do anything?
08:20:50 <rwbarton> why isn't the klown trying to kill the plants?
08:20:52 <by> you could kill that bat zombie
08:20:58 <doy> the game seems to treat them as dangerous
08:21:06 <Mu_> chaos clouds don't work in this version but they do in master
08:21:07 <due> doy: they are but they don;t
08:21:13 <doy> ah, okay
08:21:48 <syllogism> haste
08:22:22 <due> that is so cheap
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08:22:28 <greensnark> I didn't know Mu_ used chaos clouds :P
08:22:31 <Mu_> those zomboes are more effective than i anticipated :P
08:22:42 <rwbarton> it's the third least cheap way of doing it we've seen so far
08:22:43 <greensnark> But yeah, the chaos cloud change was a bit too involved for 0.7
08:22:55 <Mu_> i didn't mention it because i thought they change was in .7, sorry :P
08:22:57 <rwbarton> er, third most
08:22:57 <due> i think casmith789 might get it
08:23:05 <due> Mu_: should've mate it mutagenic then
08:23:23 <due> lol
08:23:29 <Mu_> the orb of fire will demolish them but at that point he can do things the regular spriggan way i guess
08:23:35 <Mu_> oh wow
08:23:40 <elliptic> just use death's door
08:23:44 <elliptic> :P
08:23:58 <syllogism> Mu_: it won't :P
08:24:05 <rwbarton> are those 1s summons?
08:24:15 <casmith789> good point
08:24:18 <elliptic> what is summoning 1s?
08:24:22 <Mu_> ancient lich
08:24:22 <syllogism> lich behind hte wall
08:24:22 <due> ancient lich?
08:24:28 <syllogism> there's probably a zombie in there
08:24:29 <syllogism> or was
08:24:36 <due> ohhai
08:24:38 <syllogism> probably recalled/animated through the wall :P
08:25:09 <due> this is cool
08:25:28 <Mu_> hehe
08:25:37 <elliptic> death's door only at great isn't so good
08:25:47 <due> leccy golem :(
08:26:05 <due> speccy golem?
08:26:20 <syllogism> some fighting going on still :P
08:26:48 <due> niiice mix of fogs
08:26:53 <Mu_> lol
08:27:12 <due> i'll have my fog with miasma, thanks
08:27:15 <Mu_> it's a long delay freezing cloud next to some lava :3
08:27:36 <syllogism> zombies already killed one
08:27:48 <due> recall through walls
08:27:48 <syllogism> maybe you can animate/recall them through the wall
08:28:12 <syllogism> aww
08:28:30 <syllogism> go back :P
08:28:35 <due> yeah, go back
08:29:12 <due> now get out :)
08:29:35 <due> did you kill it?
08:29:39 <syllogism> no
08:29:39 <casmith789> no
08:29:45 <due> boooring
08:30:17 <due> @??red draconian scorcher
08:30:17 <greensnark> Did Mu_ soup up that scorcher?
08:30:18 <Gretell> red draconian scorcher (04d) | Speed: 10 | HD: 16 | Health: 70-90 | AC/EV: 8/12 | Damage: 15 | Flags: spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(85), 05hellfire | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 2258 | Sp: fire breath (3d20), b.fire (3d25), sticky flame (3d6), fireball (3d26), hellfire (3d20), hellfire burst (3d15).
08:30:25 <greensnark> It seems to be putting up a spirited defence :P
08:30:25 <casmith789> it will not die!
08:30:25 <due> Mu_?
08:30:36 <syllogism> death's door + haste + flight and go near it and recall
08:30:46 <Mu_> it's a default scorcher
08:31:05 <by> it's just past the meph hd threshold
08:31:16 <syllogism> you should go back though
08:31:19 <casmith789> there's a threshold?
08:31:21 <due> go back
08:31:30 <due> there you go
08:31:34 <due> yes, kinda.
08:31:46 <due> jellies eating loot, nice.
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08:32:02 <elliptic> by: the threshold is 21
08:32:12 <syllogism> recalll
08:32:23 <due> Tiamat the acid blob
08:32:27 <Mu_> haha
08:32:32 <due> how did you do THAT?
08:32:40 <Mu_> there's fog nearby :P
08:32:41 <due> orb of fire <3
08:32:43 <due> ahh
08:32:45 <by> elliptic: ah, thought it was 15 for some reason
08:32:47 <syllogism> let that orb fly to you
08:32:47 <syllogism> go back
08:32:59 <Mu_> i think syll had Tiamat the golden dragon :P
08:33:03 <due> nice
08:33:12 <due> tiamat's scariest as a draconian though
08:33:20 <rwbarton> what is Tiamat usually?
08:33:23 <Mu_> ye, she aint supposed to wander
08:33:33 <due> rwbarton: draconian
08:33:34 <Mu_> a draconian
08:33:38 <due> OHHAI
08:33:39 <elliptic> @?tiamat
08:33:41 <Gretell> Tiamat (06d) | Speed: 10 | HD: 22 | Health: 380 | AC/EV: 25/10 | Damage: 60, 45 | Flags: cold-blooded, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(146), 03poison | XP: 13593 | Sp: mystic blast (3d25).
08:33:54 <Mu_> the door next to her is a secret door but that doesn't seem to stop monsters opening em and going walkies :P
08:34:03 <rwbarton> @?tiamat the acid blob
08:34:03 <Gretell> unknown monster: "tiamat the acid blob"
08:34:04 <due> Mu_: you can lock them, remember
08:34:11 <Mu_> really
08:34:38 <Mu_> if it involves lua i can't do it :P
08:34:51 <due> MARKER: + = lua:door_restrict()
08:34:59 <Mu_> huh cool
08:34:59 <due> monsters can't open it until you've opened it
08:35:05 <due> use sparingly though
08:35:09 <due> very sparingly
08:35:19 <Mu_> should blanket apply that rule to every door in sprint tbh :P
08:35:24 <due> orb!
08:35:37 <elliptic> eyeball time
08:35:39 <Mu_> lmao she ate the door to the orb
08:35:47 <due> LOL
08:35:52 <due> mutie fog, nice
08:36:05 <elliptic> what happened to tiamatblob?
08:36:08 <casmith789> wth is this
08:36:10 <casmith789> I killed him
08:36:10 <syllogism> zombies ate it
08:36:15 <due> zoimbies ate
08:36:26 <elliptic> orb of fire also killed?
08:36:31 <syllogism> yes
08:36:54 <syllogism> caerful
08:36:59 <syllogism> go back
08:37:01 <casmith789> no apport
08:37:03 <casmith789> ...
08:37:05 <due> go baaaack
08:37:05 <syllogism> why are you in a hurry
08:37:12 <syllogism> just let the zombies deal with it
08:37:15 <due> recall and go back
08:37:16 <casmith789> because he's summoning eyes then they're changing
08:37:23 <syllogism> so
08:37:27 <elliptic> get more MP somehow
08:37:29 <casmith789> so that'll start forever
08:37:34 <syllogism> better than dying now
08:37:40 <syllogism> you cant get back with ti alive
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08:37:45 <casmith789> ti?
08:37:46 <due> i <3 mutagenic fog
08:37:51 <elliptic> you could have gotten the orb then :/
08:37:53 <syllogism> it = the statue
08:38:00 <casmith789> the statue dies?
08:38:01 <elliptic> syllogism: what?
08:38:02 <syllogism> yes
08:38:10 <elliptic> I didn't kill the statue
08:38:16 <due> but not to disint
08:38:17 <syllogism> you were probably blinking
08:38:21 <due> oh you killed it
08:38:35 <elliptic> syllogism: yeah, used a blink scroll
08:38:37 <due> cheap
08:38:52 <syllogism> it's just mutagenic fog :P
08:39:04 <due> zorb!
08:39:06 <syllogism> keep recalling zombies during the orb run
08:39:06 <elliptic> nice fog, gave you +1 dex
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08:39:37 <due> why are you waiting around?
08:39:46 <casmith789> I thought it could kill me
08:39:47 <due> get out of there
08:39:53 <due> more zombs
08:39:55 <Mu_> go slow casmith789 :P
08:40:07 <syllogism> don't want to get ambushed or anything
08:40:09 <rwbarton> it had a weapon of reaching
08:40:15 <due> erm remember the fog
08:41:05 <Mu_> hehe
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08:41:24 <due> win
08:41:44 <st_> I thought orbrun & were always orange
08:41:44 <Henzell> st_: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
08:41:45 <elliptic> cast DDoor before going into sight of that & again
08:41:56 <elliptic> if it has firestorm it could oneshot you
08:41:56 <due> st_: no?
08:42:10 <st_> they always are for me
08:42:26 <casmith789> im gonna die
08:42:36 <due> what are you doing
08:42:41 <syllogism> recall
08:42:49 <elliptic> casmith789: need more MP
08:42:52 <due> more zombies
08:42:55 <elliptic> sublimation when you get a chance
08:42:58 <casmith789> I don't have it
08:42:58 <Mu_> a pan lord gens in the zot room when you pick up the orb
08:43:02 <elliptic> what
08:43:18 <syllogism> you didnt recall
08:43:37 <Mu_> this is the most intense orb run possibly ever
08:43:40 <syllogism> dont meph
08:43:46 <due> need more zombies
08:43:50 <syllogism> well you can meph once
08:44:11 <due> chill and regain?
08:44:53 <syllogism> it died :P
08:45:01 <due> yup, that it did
08:45:07 <elliptic> but more are spawning
08:45:09 <greensnark> Resting too much will increase the number of orb spawns :)
08:45:13 <Mu_> nerf...zombies??
08:45:18 <due> ohhai
08:45:27 <due> you need to abyss yourself
08:45:29 <Mu_> these &'s do all look orange
08:45:37 <due> lol
08:45:46 <syllogism> recall
08:46:52 <due> shoutitis lol
08:46:59 <elliptic> this would be so much easier with sublimation
08:47:07 <syllogism> you can dig
08:47:10 <casmith789> I should've picked the book
08:47:20 <due> more zombs
08:47:22 <elliptic> did a zot trap make you forget it or something?
08:47:47 <due> be digging out right now
08:48:04 <due> casmith789, stop wasting time with these, run
08:48:13 <syllogism> there are things spawning
08:48:32 <due> yyes problem
08:49:03 <syllogism> stop
08:49:06 <elliptic> pan lord around the corner
08:49:15 <elliptic> DDoor
08:49:20 <elliptic> then dig up
08:49:34 <elliptic> haste
08:49:59 <syllogism> oh dear
08:50:15 <due> ... this is nerve racking
08:50:16 <elliptic> DDoor
08:50:18 <syllogism> ddoor and haste
08:50:28 <syllogism> recall
08:50:33 <syllogism> fff
08:50:37 <elliptic> get abyssed by spatial vortex!!!
08:50:38 <due> no dig left?
08:50:40 <elliptic> vortex will move
08:51:04 <elliptic> uh-oh
08:51:08 <Mu_> oh my god
08:51:31 <due> slow down
08:51:36 <casmith789> FFFFFFF
08:51:36 <elliptic> oh no :(
08:51:38 <due> crap
08:51:46 <due> NO
08:51:47 <syllogism> ....
08:51:48 <casmith789> COME ON
08:52:03 <due> oh god that was so unfair
08:52:05 <Mu_> i don't believe that
08:52:11 <due> that was AMAZING
08:52:14 <due> ??Casmit789
08:52:14 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled casmit789 in my learndb.
08:52:16 <greensnark> He wasted way too much time resting on the return though
08:52:17 <due> ??Casmith789
08:52:17 <Henzell> casmith789[1/5]: If you ask a question, his answer is always "go kiku".
08:52:18 <elliptic> that was epic
08:52:26 <casmith789> I needed to rest for hp and mp
08:52:29 <due> !learn add casmith789 Died on the upstairs of Sprint 3 with the orb to an execeutioner.
08:52:29 <greensnark> Resting with orb == terrible news when you have one level where everything accumulates
08:52:29 <Henzell> casmith789[6/6]: Died on the upstairs of Sprint 3 with the orb to an execeutioner.
08:52:31 <syllogism> at least it shouldn't be difficult to do it again :P
08:52:46 <due> Mu_: your map is a msterpierce
08:52:52 <Mu_> :D
08:52:53 <due> okay now I am actually oging to bed, you fucking people that distract me
08:52:55 <greensnark> Mu_: Cruel map :P
08:52:58 <casmith789> I hate you all
08:53:07 <due> casmith789: you know you love it :)
08:53:08 <greensnark> That long twisty corridor stuffed with orb spawns was a masterpiece
08:53:31 * due bed.
08:53:46 <elliptic> casmith789: that death will be legendary at least
08:53:57 <elliptic> you were so close...
08:53:59 <greensnark> !lg casmith789 sprint
08:53:59 <Sequell> 1101. casmith789 the Enchanter (L17 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by an Executioner in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 138546 points after 20078 turns and 0:55:27.
08:54:16 <greensnark> !learn add casmith789 !lg casmith789 sprint 1101 -tv:<5
08:54:17 <Henzell> casmith789[7/7]: !lg casmith789 sprint 1101 -tv:<5
08:54:28 <greensnark> Has to be really annoying to die like that :)
08:54:52 <casmith789> one more wand of digging or one more scroll of blinking
08:54:54 <casmith789> ffs
08:55:13 <greensnark> Or a little less resting and letting your zombies beat up imps with the orb clock ticking :)
08:55:42 <elliptic> greensnark: resting somewhat for MP looked necessary though
08:55:55 <syllogism> next time get sublimation and keep some chunks available
08:55:58 <greensnark> elliptic: Sure, but that was more than somewhat :)
08:55:59 <casmith789> As it happens, I didn't have enough zombies
08:56:07 <casmith789> which is what I was doing
08:56:25 <greensnark> Anyway, I'd probably have played it worse :)
08:56:42 <syllogism> I did encourage you to spend much of your piety
08:56:48 <syllogism> not like you need it for anything
08:56:55 <casmith789> I am sure you would have won
08:57:02 <casmith789> I am not a good player
08:57:08 <casmith789> but goddamn that was annoying
08:57:24 <elliptic> !lg goodplayers name=casmith789
08:57:25 <Sequell> 1458. casmith789 the Cutter (L4 HERe), slain by Terence (a -1,+1 orcish flail) on D:3 on 2010-08-13, with 267 points after 3140 turns and 0:06:05.
08:57:40 <elliptic> seems that you are a good player :P
08:57:48 <greensnark> casmith789: Hey, you're better than I am :)
08:58:09 <casmith789> FR: lugonu altar and 6* piety under the orb
08:58:38 <greensnark> !lg casmith789 sprint 1101 -tv:<5
08:58:39 <Sequell> 1101. casmith789, XL17 SpEn, T:20078 requested for FooTV.
08:59:04 <greensnark> Maybe we should change it to play back from the orb
08:59:12 <casmith789> could've berserked at the end :S
08:59:12 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb
08:59:12 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
08:59:25 <elliptic> casmith789: at least that was a pretty fast game... not one of those several-hour marathons
08:59:34 <greensnark> !learn add casmith789 !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb 31 -tv:>$
08:59:35 <Henzell> casmith789[8/8]: !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb 31 -tv:>$
08:59:37 <casmith789> I don't play terrible games like that
08:59:39 <greensnark> !learn del casmith789[7]
08:59:40 <Henzell> Deleted casmith789[7/8]: !lg casmith789 sprint 1101 -tv:<5
08:59:48 <greensnark> !lg * -tv:nuke
08:59:49 <Sequell> FooTV playlist clear requested by greensnark.
08:59:54 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb 31 -tv:>$
08:59:55 <Sequell> 31. casmith789, XL16 SpEn, T:18566 (milestone) requested for FooTV.
09:00:20 <greensnark> There we go, all set up for posterity
09:00:31 <casmith789> thanks for that
09:00:33 <casmith789> :S
09:01:11 <syllogism> your next game should go faster since you won't waste time on abominations and will get invo high earlier
09:01:35 <elliptic> watching that game makes me want to abuse kiku zombies sometime
09:02:08 <casmith789> I think I need a few minutes before I try again
09:02:20 <greensnark> A few minutes? I'd have taken the week off :P
09:02:32 <casmith789> well meh
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09:03:02 <elliptic> it would be sad if someone died while ascending the d:1 stairs with the orb in regular crawl
09:03:12 <elliptic> but I don't think it has happened
09:03:18 <casmith789> why didn't my char throw the orb up the stairs
09:03:28 <st_> herself died on D:2 with the orb yesterday
09:03:28 <casmith789> I think this is a bug
09:03:51 <elliptic> !lg herself xl>10 d:2
09:03:51 <Sequell> 71. herself the Sorcerer (L27 HuVM), worshipper of Vehumet, mangled by an Executioner on D:2 on 2010-08-15, with 482028 points after 130054 turns and 7:02:02.
09:03:55 <elliptic> ouch
09:03:59 <syllogism> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=place
09:03:59 <Sequell> 124 milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning): 124x Zot:5
09:04:04 <syllogism> err :P
09:04:05 <syllogism> not like that
09:04:16 <elliptic> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place
09:04:16 <Sequell> 124 milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning): 52x Zot:5, 10x Pan, 4x Abyss, 4x Zot:4, 3x Geh:7, 3x Zot:2, 3x D:24, 3x Coc:7, 2x Dis:7, 2x D:21, 2x D:16, 2x D:20, 2x Geh:2, 2x D:$, 2x D:23, 2x Tomb:1, 1x D:13, 1x Zot:3, 1x Zig:26, 1x D:9, 1x D:12, 1x Ziggurat:27, 1x D:14, 1x D:25, 1x D:22, 1x D:2, 1x Geh:4, 1x D:15, 1x Zig:3, 1x Lair:2, 1x Zig:18, 1x Shoals:3, 1x D:27, 1x Tar:7, 1x Zot:1, 1x Zig:6...
09:04:49 <rwbarton> unfortunately you don't have to actually pick up the orb to get that milestone
09:04:50 <syllogism> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place place=d
09:04:50 <Sequell> No milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning place=d)
09:04:56 <syllogism> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place place=D
09:04:56 <Sequell> No milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning place=D)
09:04:58 <casmith789> one step away from 100 points
09:05:01 <casmith789> gah
09:05:04 <elliptic> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place lg:br=d
09:05:05 <Sequell> 44 milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:br=d): 10x Pan, 3x Abyss, 3x D:24, 2x D:16, 2x D:21, 2x D:20, 2x D:23, 2x D:$, 1x D:9, 1x D:12, 1x D:22, 1x Zig:26, 1x D:13, 1x Ziggurat:27, 1x D:11, 1x D:25, 1x D:14, 1x D:2, 1x Zig:3, 1x D:15, 1x D:27, 1x Zig:18, 1x D:10, 1x D:7, 1x Zig:6, 1x Zig:21
09:05:14 <casmith789> greensnark: can we have a best splat of the tourney prize please
09:05:29 <syllogism> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place lg:place=D:$
09:05:29 <Sequell> 2 milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:place=D:$): 2x D:$
09:05:33 <syllogism> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning s=lg:place lg:place=D:$ -game
09:05:33 <Sequell> 2 milestones for * (type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:place=D:$): 2x D:$
09:05:35 <rwbarton> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning min=lg:abslevel
09:05:35 <Sequell> Unknown selector: lg:abslevel
09:05:43 <elliptic> casmith789: that game definitely deserves mention in the tourney writeup I'd say
09:05:46 <syllogism> oh nevermind
09:06:16 <elliptic> syllogism: those are presumably people who destroyed the orb
09:06:17 <rwbarton> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:br=d min=lg:lvl
09:06:18 <Sequell> 44. [2010-08-02] yogidabear the Merfolkian Porcupine (L25 MfCr) found the Orb of Zot! (Zot:5)
09:06:21 <rwbarton> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:br=d min=lg:lvl -game
09:06:22 <Sequell> 734845. yogidabear the Merfolkian Porcupine (L25 MfCr), worshipper of Okawaru, got out of the dungeon with 3 runes on 2010-08-02, with 428537 points after 75533 turns and 4:48:20.
09:06:25 <syllogism> nah
09:06:28 <syllogism> just left without it
09:06:38 <elliptic> there are two of them
09:07:43 <rwbarton> I seem to recall yogidabear forgot to pick up the orb, maybe due to full inventory
09:07:56 <rwbarton> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:br=d min=lg:lvl -tv:<0.25:>0.25
09:07:56 <Sequell> 44. yogidabear, XL25 MfCr, T:74630 (milestone) requested for FooTV.
09:08:02 <elliptic> incidentally, why do a lot of the rankings in the tourney handle ties strangely?
09:08:18 <elliptic> rwbarton: that was the first jiyva banner game this tourney
09:08:40 <rwbarton> oh, maybe it was someone else then
09:08:48 <elliptic> I think
09:09:00 <elliptic> no, you are right I guess
09:09:30 <elliptic> !lm * type=orb ktyp!=winning lg:br=d min=lg:lvl -log
09:09:30 <Sequell> yogidabear, XL25 MfCr, T:75533: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/yogidabear/morgue-yogidabear-20100802-060114.txt
09:10:54 <elliptic> it is really strange that everyone else's ranking will go down by one if either marvinpa or I gets a single point, for instance
09:13:26 <greensnark> elliptic: Yeah, it should be 1-1 > 3 instead of 1-1 > 2
09:13:32 <elliptic> yes
09:13:37 <greensnark> Maybe one of these years
09:13:40 <greensnark> Not this year, sorry :P
09:14:20 <elliptic> while we are on the topic, though, I don't understand how the "most uniques killed: clan" works
09:14:36 <elliptic> since it is supposed to be points for the top three clans but currently five are listed
09:14:38 <rwbarton> that one is definitely broken compared to the rules
09:14:46 <rwbarton> the rules even specify how to break ties
09:15:45 <greensnark> Clan scoring is borked
09:16:04 <greensnark> Those kinds of ties cannot reasonably be resolved with the current clan model
09:16:20 <elliptic> yeah
09:16:53 <elliptic> the difficulty is that clan composition can change?
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09:16:59 <elliptic> not anymore I guess
09:17:51 <rwbarton> oh the rule for most uniques killed by a clan isn't actually that clear, but I assumed the tiebreaker was first clan to reach the number in question
09:17:59 <greensnark> Clan composition can change at any time, and we don't track clan composition over time so figuring out which clan did X first == hard
09:18:24 <greensnark> There are proposals to change clan scoring completely, spearheaded by dpeg :)
09:18:45 <greensnark> Maybe next year, if I have enough time in June/July, and there's someone else to help with tourney work
09:18:59 <greensnark> This year has been pretty rocky, I'm not eager to run the tourney solo ever again
09:19:06 <casmith789> can't change teams now!
09:19:12 <elliptic> so I guess every clan that kills 69 uniques will get 50 points, every one that kills 68 uniques will get 20 points, and every one that kills 67 uniques will get 10 points
09:19:21 <greensnark> That's about it
09:19:33 <casmith789> if I could may put in an application for splatguard
09:20:06 <elliptic> !lg casmith789 t splat
09:20:07 <Sequell> 1. casmith789 the Backstabber (L17 SpEn), worshipper of Elyvilon, slain by a stone giant on Vault:6 on 2010-08-13, with 149298 points after 41485 turns and 2:59:27.
09:20:12 <elliptic> !lg casmith789 t won
09:20:13 <Sequell> 7. casmith789 the Brawler (L22 TrAE), worshipper of Yredelemnul, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-13, with 1156935 points after 110593 turns and 8:33:41.
09:20:19 <elliptic> you don't have enough splats :P
09:20:21 <syllogism> next time you could dig some holes before grabbing the orb
09:20:30 <casmith789> good plan
09:20:35 <rwbarton> where is casmith789's morgue?
09:20:53 <elliptic> http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.7/casmith789/morgue-casmith789-20100816-135144.txt
09:21:18 <casmith789> I blame that on the mut clouds
09:21:35 <casmith789> if I'd got rid of them wouldn't have got -MP
09:21:43 <rwbarton> oh man, 0 HP
09:21:49 <greensnark> !log casmith789 sprint
09:21:50 <casmith789> wtf
09:21:50 <Sequell> 1102. casmith789, XL8 SpEn, T:1645: Can't find morgue.
09:21:53 <greensnark> Bah
09:21:55 <syllogism> it probably still had attacks left
09:22:07 <casmith789> -7 hp
09:22:07 <rwbarton> @?executioner
09:22:08 <Gretell> Executioner (151) | Speed: 20 | HD: 12 | Health: 49-85 | AC/EV: 10/15 | Damage: 30, 10, 10 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(144), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 2373 | Sp: pain (d14), haste.
09:22:11 <casmith789> oh no
09:22:15 <casmith789> ignore that
09:22:26 <rwbarton> it made 3 but I guess it would have gotten a second turn
09:23:07 <elliptic> casmith789: my sprint winner got -30%mp and -30%hp from the fog
09:23:21 <casmith789> elliptic: don't remind me that you > me :p
09:23:32 <casmith789> now n7's going to steal my 3rd place
09:23:37 <elliptic> no, I'm much frailer and less energetic than you :P
09:23:45 <elliptic> !lm n78291 sprint
09:23:46 <Sequell> 609. [2010-08-16] 78291 the Pandemonic (L12 TrCK) killed Frederick on turn 3199. (Sprint)
09:23:47 <greensnark> !log casmith789 sprint
09:23:48 <Sequell> 1102. casmith789, XL8 SpEn, T:1645: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.7/casmith789/morgue-casmith789-20100816-141315.txt
09:24:00 <elliptic> greensnark: yay
09:24:13 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint !win type=orb -game -log
09:24:13 <Sequell> casmith789, XL13 KeBe, T:2567: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/sprint/casmith789/morgue-casmith789-20100717-193219.txt
09:24:23 <greensnark> Meh :P
09:24:56 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint  type=orb
09:24:56 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:24:56 <elliptic> !lm casmith789 sprint
09:24:57 <Sequell> 1532. [2010-08-16] casmith789 the Infuser (L4 SpEn) became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha on turn 447. (Sprint)
09:25:02 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint  type=orb ktyp!=winning
09:25:03 <Sequell> 9. [2010-07-17] casmith789 the Severer (L12 KeBe) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:25:04 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint  type=orb ktyp!=winning -game
09:25:05 <Sequell> 31945. casmith789 the Severer (L13 KeBe), worshipper of Trog, blasted by Klon (bolt of cold) in Sprint (Sprint II: "The Violet Keep of Menkaure") on 2010-07-17, with 29534 points after 2567 turns and 0:15:29.
09:25:10 <greensnark> Hm
09:25:24 <casmith789> I don't mind orb run splats in sprint
09:25:25 <elliptic> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb lg:ktyp!=winning
09:25:26 <Sequell> 9. [2010-07-17] casmith789 the Severer (L12 KeBe) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:25:28 <casmith789> this isn't sprint though
09:25:33 <casmith789> whatever you call it
09:25:36 <elliptic> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb x=ktyp
09:25:36 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] [ktyp=] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:26:05 <elliptic> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb x=killer
09:26:06 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] [killer=] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:26:08 <greensnark> Looks like the milestone didn't get linked to the game
09:26:14 <rwbarton> there's some weird stuff going on with sequell and sprint III
09:26:17 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb x=game_id
09:26:17 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] [game_id=0] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:26:25 <greensnark> Yeah, not linked to the game
09:26:26 <elliptic> !lg * sprint t
09:26:27 <Sequell> 7063. 78291 the Demolition Troll (L12 TrCK), worshipper of Makhleb, slain by a vault guard (a +2,+2 great mace of draining) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 34157 points after 3438 turns and 0:22:23.
09:26:42 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb x=start
09:26:42 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] [start=-01- []] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:26:46 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb x=rstart
09:26:47 <Sequell> 31. [2010-08-16] [rstart=2010-08-16 [20100716115440S]] casmith789 the Enchanter (L16 SpEn) found the Orb of Zot! (Sprint)
09:26:59 <greensnark> !lg casmith789 sprint killer=executioner x=start
09:26:59 <Sequell> 4. [start=2010-08-16 [20100716115440S]] casmith789 the Enchanter (L17 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by an Executioner in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 138546 points after 20078 turns and 0:55:27.
09:27:06 <rwbarton> !lm * sprint s=map
09:27:07 <Sequell> 41286 milestones for *: 26013x , 12887x dungeon sprint 1, 2386x the violet keep of menkaure
09:27:11 <rwbarton> that for instance
09:27:21 <greensnark> Interesting
09:27:26 <rwbarton> unless the map is never populated any more, I guess
09:27:29 <rwbarton> !lm * sprint t s=map
09:27:30 <Sequell> 4200 milestones for * (t): 3886x dungeon sprint 1, 270x the violet keep of menkaure, 44x
09:27:36 <greensnark> Looks like Sprint III milestones are not being linked to Sprint III games at all
09:27:42 <greensnark> Possibly because...
09:27:46 <greensnark> !lm * sprint x=src
09:27:47 <Sequell> 44684. [2010-08-16] [src=cdo] Baraton the Arsonist (L7 DEFE) is cast into the Abyss! (spatial vortex) (Sprint)
09:27:55 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint x=src
09:27:56 <Sequell> 1532. [2010-08-16] [src=cdo] casmith789 the Infuser (L4 SpEn) became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha on turn 447. (Sprint)
09:28:42 <rwbarton> I don't understand the output of "!lm * sprint t s=map" in the slightest
09:29:02 <rwbarton> !lm casmith789 sprint x=map
09:29:02 <Sequell> 1532. [2010-08-16] [map=] casmith789 the Infuser (L4 SpEn) became a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha on turn 447. (Sprint)
09:29:04 <greensnark> Well, 't' doesn't work with 'sprint' yet
09:29:13 <greensnark> And 'map' is not set on milestones
09:29:22 <greensnark> So to get correct values for map the milestone has to be linked to the game it belongs to
09:29:30 <greensnark> Which isn't happening for Sprint III for mysterious raisins
09:29:42 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t s=map
09:29:43 <Sequell> 4200 milestones for * (t): 3886x dungeon sprint 1, 270x the violet keep of menkaure, 44x
09:29:48 <elliptic> but what are the 44x ?
09:29:55 <casmith789> are they getting added to DS1
09:30:06 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t map=
09:30:07 <Sequell> 44. [2010-08-13] bh the Blackguard (L8 SpSt) is cast into the Abyss! (Sonja) (Sprint)
09:30:08 <rwbarton> does t still mean started since Aug 1 and with the right version?
09:30:16 <casmith789> is 44x DS1
09:30:22 <casmith789> 3886x DS3
09:30:38 <elliptic> oh, abyss milestones I guess?
09:30:40 <rwbarton> !lm * sprint t map=dungeon sprint 1
09:30:40 <Sequell> No milestones for * (t map=dungeon sprint).
09:30:42 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t map= s=place
09:30:42 <Sequell> 44 milestones for * (t map=): 42x Sprint, 2x Abyss (Sprint)
09:30:47 <rwbarton> !lm * sprint t map=~dungeon
09:30:48 <Sequell> 3886. [2010-08-13] bh the Miscreant (L5 SpSt) became a worshipper of Vehumet on turn 385. (Sprint)
09:31:00 <rwbarton> !lm * sprint t map=~dungeon -tv
09:31:01 <Sequell> 3886. bh, XL5 SpSt, T:385 (milestone) requested for FooTV.
09:31:01 <casmith789> Sonja sounds like sprint 1
09:31:19 <greensnark> You can't really search for map= on milestones
09:31:29 <rwbarton> ok
09:31:32 <greensnark> Because if the milestone has no matching game, map will be null
09:31:42 <greensnark> And comparing null to empty string is false in SQL
09:32:13 * st_ died to Nellie :<
09:32:32 <elliptic> !lg clouded sprint killer=nellie
09:32:32 <Sequell> 1. clouded the Destroyer (L11 DEWz), worshipper of Sif Muna, blasted by Nellie (blast of flame) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 13265 points after 5058 turns and 0:35:02.
09:33:22 <st_> I was all smug that I had fire spells and could get into the secret hive room
09:33:47 <syllogism> it's pretty surprising how long it took for people to find her :P
09:33:58 <syllogism> considering the area looks pretty suspicious
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09:34:55 <greensnark> !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb -game -log
09:34:55 <Sequell> casmith789, XL17 SpEn, T:20078: http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/0.7/casmith789/morgue-casmith789-20100816-135144.txt
09:35:12 <greensnark> !lm * sprint t s=map
09:35:12 <Sequell> 7449 milestones for * (t): 4173x dungeon sprint 1, 2863x dungeon sprint mu, 328x the violet keep of menkaure, 85x
09:35:35 <rwbarton> hey that looks a lot better
09:37:20 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t type=uniq s=noun
09:37:21 <Sequell> 6167 milestones for * (t type=uniq): 2128x Ijyb, 1146x Sigmund, 975x Jessica, 412x Sonja, 284x Crazy Yiuf, 178x Menkaure, 167x Erolcha, 80x Maud, 79x Jozef, 77x Gastronok, 77x Rupert, 41x Joseph, 40x Erica, 38x Duvessa, 38x Harold, 35x the 27-headed Lernaean hydra, 35x Dowan, 35x Snorg, 34x Francis, 33x Edmund, 33x Frances, 29x Kirke, 24x Chuck, 19x Polyphemus, 18x Nessos, 16x Ilsuiw, 12x Azrael, ...
09:37:25 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t type=uniq s=-noun
09:37:25 <Sequell> 6167 milestones for * (t type=uniq): 1x the iron giant, 1x Mennas, 1x Antaeus, 1x Dispater, 1x the 26-headed Lernaean hydra, 2x Gloorx Vloq, 2x Murray, 2x Geryon, 3x Roxanne, 4x the royal jelly, 4x Nellie, 4x Tiamat, 5x Xtahua, 6x Mara, 7x Boris, 9x Nikola, 9x Frederick, 11x Norris, 11x Wayne, 12x Azrael, 16x Ilsuiw, 18x Nessos, 19x Polyphemus, 24x Chuck, 29x Kirke, 33x Edmund, 33x Frances, 34x Fr...
09:37:37 <elliptic> !lm * sprint t type=uniq s=-noun map=~mu
09:37:37 <Sequell> 2206 milestones for * (t type=uniq map=~mu): 1x the iron giant, 1x Mennas, 1x Murray, 1x Dispater, 1x Gloorx Vloq, 1x the 26-headed Lernaean hydra, 1x Antaeus, 2x Geryon, 3x Roxanne, 3x Tiamat, 4x the royal jelly, 4x Nellie, 4x Xtahua, 5x the 27-headed Lernaean hydra, 6x Mara, 7x Boris, 8x Nikola, 9x Frederick, 10x Norris, 12x Azrael, 14x Ilsuiw, 17x Polyphemus, 17x Nessos, 23x Chuck, 32x Frances,...
09:38:03 <elliptic> where is the iron giant anyway... dis?
09:40:58 <Keskitalo> !tell due non-functional sketches: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:evktalo#project_subvaultified_volcanoes
09:40:59 <Henzell> Keskitalo: OK, I'll let due know.
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09:42:29 <greensnark> !lg * sprint t
09:42:29 <Sequell> 2613. Surr the Basher (L5 OgBe), worshipper of Trog, mangled by a human in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 206 points after 402 turns and 0:01:53.
09:42:31 <greensnark> !lg * sprint t 1
09:42:31 <Sequell> 1. oddsox the Charm-Maker (L1 SpEn), slain by an ooze in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 22 points after 19 turns and 0:00:29.
09:42:39 <greensnark> !lm * sprint t
09:42:39 <Sequell> 2863. [2010-08-16] Baraton the Arsonist (L7 DEFE) entered the Dungeon on turn 1490. (Bug)
09:42:41 <greensnark> !lm * sprint t 1
09:42:41 <Sequell> 1. [2010-08-15] reid the Charm-Maker (L1 SpEn) killed Jessica on turn 41. (Sprint)
09:42:47 <greensnark> Haha, 2863  :P
09:43:12 <greensnark> !lm Baraton sprint t x=place
09:43:13 <Sequell> 40. [2010-08-16] [place=Sprint] Baraton the Arsonist (L7 DEFE) entered the Dungeon on turn 1490. (Bug)
09:43:17 <greensnark> !lm Baraton sprint t x=oplace
09:43:18 <Sequell> 40. [2010-08-16] [oplace=Bug] Baraton the Arsonist (L7 DEFE) entered the Dungeon on turn 1490. (Bug)
09:43:21 <greensnark> Cute
09:43:55 <rwbarton> Does t specify Sprint III now then?
09:44:01 <greensnark> It should
09:44:09 <greensnark> It will only find milestones for completed Sprint games though
09:44:16 <greensnark> !lm * sprint t
09:44:16 <Sequell> 2863. [2010-08-16] Baraton the Arsonist (L7 DEFE) entered the Dungeon on turn 1490. (Bug)
09:44:19 <greensnark> !lm * sprint t -game
09:44:19 <Sequell> 44600. Baraton the Arsonist (L8 DEFE), worshipper of Vehumet, slain by an ufetubus (summoned by a ynoxinul (summoned by an orc high priest)) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-16, with 1096 points after 1789 turns and 0:08:55.
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09:44:32 <rwbarton> since I'm sure someone was playing sprint in the tournament before I was
09:44:47 <greensnark> !lg * sprint t min=rstart
09:44:47 <Sequell> 2613. casmith789 the Brawler (L10 TrBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by Jozef (a +0,+1 dire flail of distortion) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 6466 points after 1071 turns and 0:04:39.
09:44:56 <greensnark> !lg * sprint t min=rstart x=rstart
09:44:56 <Sequell> 2613. [rstart=2010-08-15 [20100715000008S]] casmith789 the Brawler (L10 TrBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by Jozef (a +0,+1 dire flail of distortion) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 6466 points after 1071 turns and 0:04:39.
09:45:24 <greensnark> You just happen to be the first Sprint milestone
09:45:31 <greensnark> Not the first started game
09:45:39 <casmith789> <3
09:45:48 <casmith789> I started first! woot
09:46:34 * casmith789 buys 2 digging wands and disint
09:51:12 <rwbarton> I meant I wasn't playing Sprint I on Aug 1
09:51:19 <rwbarton> Also, there is no Jessica in Sprint I or II of course
09:51:55 <rwbarton> actually I think I waited a few moments to get a look at casmith789's map :)
09:52:26 <casmith789> why is this game so dependant on luck :( no bookshop
09:59:29 <nrook> hah, is this the honorary ##sprint now?
09:59:55 <casmith789> no, it isn't :(
09:59:59 * casmith789 shuts up
10:00:31 <nrook> we could use an actual ##sprint, nobody in ##crawl really cares about it
10:10:25 <doy> isn't there supposed to be gold somewhere on this map
10:10:50 <by> the orcs might have run off with it
10:12:07 <doy> hmmm, i guess i did close a couple of them off in elf
10:12:10 <doy> good point
10:13:27 <doy> there we go
10:13:28 <doy> (:
10:14:15 <greensnark> @whereis doy
10:14:16 <Gretell> doy the Chopper (L6 DrCr) dead on D:5 on 2010-01-18 after 7481 turns.
10:46:55 <syllogism> by: been using rain yet?
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10:57:50 <by> syllogism: just once
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10:58:29 <by> are you guaranteed to find fruit?
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11:01:51 <syllogism> yes
11:01:57 <syllogism> and 6+ acquirement scrolls
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11:10:33 <herself> hello
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12:41:44 <greensnark> Mu_: I can't find the code in your new sprint .des file which brings doom, desolation and despair to every player trying for win #3 :P
12:41:56 <greensnark> Mu_: Some advanced use of Lua you got going there :)
12:42:14 <Keskitalo> Cryp71c: I missed the discussion (assuming there was one); what made you make the confused eyes not do anything (instead of random gazing around)? Just curious - that sounded interesting.
12:42:16 <Mu_> :(
12:42:40 <Keskitalo> Mu_: greensnark is complimenting you, you should be smiling :)
12:43:02 <greensnark> Keskitalo: Did you see casmith789's sprint death?
12:43:08 <greensnark> It was stuff out of Homer
12:43:23 <greensnark> He was like Hector fleeing Achilles around the gates of Troy
12:43:35 <greensnark> Unfortunately it also ended like it did for Hector
12:43:52 <casmith789> haha
12:44:33 <Cryp71c> Keskitalo, I wanted Giant eyeballs to paralyze random stuff around you (or maybe even you) if confused, but after much debate we decided on confused giant eyeballs simply doing nothing.
12:44:35 <Keskitalo> greensnark: Yes, I was watching live, and you describe it truely
12:48:18 <Keskitalo> Cryp71c: ok
12:49:29 <doy> hmmm, so... undead swamp, slime, end of vault, blade, tomb, or mara/curse skull/angel unique
12:49:34 <doy> none of these seem enticing
12:50:25 <doy> also, serious lack of identify scrolls
12:50:45 <greensnark> doy: Come on, undead swamp sounds like a great place to relax and enjoy the company
12:51:04 <greensnark> Dive in :P
12:51:24 <by> !lm doy
12:51:24 <Sequell> 2750. [2010-08-11] doy the Frost Mage (L9 MfIE) killed Blork the orc on turn 11464. (D:7)
12:51:36 <Mu_> it'd be cool if you could place shops in sprint that sold infinite amounts of basic items like identify scrolls and such
12:51:44 <by> !lm doy sprint
12:51:45 <Sequell> 213. [2010-08-16] doy the Cutthroat (L14 SpEn) killed Azrael on turn 8663. (Sprint)
12:52:41 <greensnark> !lm doy sprint x=urune
12:52:41 <Sequell> 213. [2010-08-16] [urune=1] doy the Cutthroat (L14 SpEn) killed Azrael on turn 8663. (Sprint)
12:52:59 <greensnark> !lm doy sprint rune
12:52:59 <Sequell> 1. [2010-08-16] doy the Bewitcher (L13 SpEn) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 4457. (Sprint)
12:53:39 <greensnark> Mu_: I, um, noticed Sigmund casting a few nonstandard spells :P
12:53:56 <greensnark> !lg * sprint t killer=sigmund s=ckaux
12:53:56 <Sequell> 9 games for * (t killer=sigmund): 7x bolt of fire, 1x scythe of distortion, 1x orb of energy
12:54:19 <Mu_> all the uniques in that room get their spells and HD update to mid-game level
12:54:41 <Mu_> so sigmund's throw flame and magic dart become bolt of fire and mystic blast :p
12:55:05 <greensnark> Nice
12:55:20 <Mu_> i don't see why playin crawl should give you sprint spoilers :P
12:55:29 <greensnark> :P
12:56:09 <greensnark> We need a Sprint map where Ijyb has racked up a lot of that 9x xp
12:56:18 <greensnark> And is now a goblin warlock or something
12:56:28 <doy> i did notice sigmund giving non-standard amounts of xp in any case
12:56:29 <doy> (:
12:56:40 <Mu_> @?sigmund hd:15
12:56:41 <Gretell> Sigmund (08@) | Speed: 10 | HD: 15 | Health: 30 | AC/EV: 0/11 | Damage: 5 | Flags: spellcaster | Res: 06magic(12) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 1521 | Sp: throw flame (3d9), confuse, invisibility, magic dart (3d5).
12:56:47 <Mu_> nice chunk of xp :P
12:57:07 <doy> he gives 20k+ in the sprint map
12:57:25 <Mu_> ye it goes through the multiplier too ofc
12:57:37 <doy> well, 9 * 1521 isn't 20k+
12:57:43 <doy> but probably bonus for spells or something
12:57:45 <greensnark> @?? Sigmund hd:15 hp:100
12:57:46 <Gretell> Sigmund (08@) | Speed: 10 | HD: 15 | Health: 100 | AC/EV: 0/11 | Damage: 5 | Flags: spellcaster | Res: 06magic(12) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 3057 | Sp: throw flame (3d9), confuse, invisibility, magic dart (3d5).
12:57:54 <Mu_> oh yeah hp too
12:57:55 <doy> or that
12:57:56 <doy> (:
12:58:00 <syllogism> he has 100 hp? whoa
12:58:14 <Mu_> the caster in the room has 100 and the melee has 150 :P
12:58:34 <Mu_> someone yesterday complained their stab didn't oneshot edmund :3
12:58:38 <greensnark> :P
12:59:28 <casmith789> yeah I noticed my stabs weren't oneshotting Joseph
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13:37:09 <Ashenzari> Crash when entering the temple (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2289) by nicooo
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14:17:24 <Ashenzari> Prince Ribbit can appear way too early (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2290) by stabwound
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14:49:20 <greensnark> by: Shoals rune fetche!
14:49:23 <greensnark> *d
14:50:11 <elliptic> !lg * t place~~shoals|snake|swamp s=br
14:50:11 <Sequell> 193 games for * (t place~~shoals|snake|swamp): 69x Snake, 64x Shoals, 60x Swamp
14:54:21 <stabwound> the shoals scare me
14:54:24 <stabwound> there, I said it
14:55:13 <greensnark> !lg * 0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals s=br
14:55:14 <Sequell> 247 games for * (0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals): 92x Shoals, 78x Swamp, 77x Snake
14:55:51 <syllogism> more things can go wrong in shoals
14:56:00 <syllogism> in a way that's harder to control
14:56:00 <stabwound> yeah
14:56:05 <stabwound> yes
14:56:07 <kilobyte> stabwound: but you can be guaranteed you won't see it if you play a Mf, HOPr or Ke
14:56:24 <syllogism> rings of mr are nice
14:57:02 <stabwound> can you teleport if locked by a mermaid/siren?
14:57:04 <stabwound> I never tried it
14:57:11 <greensnark> Yes
14:57:35 <greensnark> If you have controlled teleport you can still select the mermaid or some other blocked square to get a random tele
14:57:44 <syllogism> :P
14:57:50 <syllogism> "working as intended"
14:57:53 <greensnark> :P
14:58:35 <syllogism> what about if you don't have tele control
14:58:55 <elliptic> greensnark: I'd expect that you only get a random tele if the teleport actually tries to land you on the blocked square?
14:59:03 <greensnark> elliptic: Yes
14:59:06 <greensnark> I think so
14:59:11 <greensnark> I haven't actually checked the code
14:59:28 <stabwound> I didn't even know you could target a non-valid square to teleport on
14:59:52 <greensnark> We still don't have a third sprint win? :P
15:00:00 <greensnark> Go Mu_ :)
15:00:00 <elliptic> stabwound: it is a useful thing to do for stabbing monsters with controlled teleporting
15:00:11 <elliptic> since targeting the monster maximizes your chance of landing next to it
15:01:32 <elliptic> maybe there won't be a third sprint win in the tourney
15:02:08 <Mu_> did you see casmith's death earlier elliptic
15:02:14 <elliptic> yes
15:02:15 <rwbarton> casmith789 is still hard at work
15:02:18 <elliptic> it was amazing
15:02:26 <greensnark> And there I had to put in extra checks to make sure the same player can't get points for first N wins
15:02:44 <casmith789> greensnark: elliptic and GrimmSweeper would have won 3 times each :p
15:02:45 <greensnark> Seems I needn't have worried :)
15:02:46 <elliptic> greensnark: I would try to get third win now if you hadn't done that :P
15:03:38 <elliptic> greensnark: by the way, could one player have gotten points for multiple first wins at the start of the tourney?
15:03:44 <greensnark> elliptic: Yes
15:03:59 <greensnark> That is allowed, although not stated explicitly
15:04:00 <casmith789> elliptic: you could have got first and second with all the splats :p
15:04:04 <greensnark> Same for first 15-rune wins
15:04:27 <Mu_> there should've been separate points for a 10-rune sprint win :P
15:04:41 <casmith789> put 'em in :p
15:04:50 <elliptic> hm, I might have tried for a second win if I had known that and had had more than two hours to spend on crawl that night :)
15:04:52 <rwbarton> sweeten the pot a little
15:05:06 <greensnark> There should be a banner for most glorious splat, but that's hard to assign in a script
15:05:26 <casmith789> yay splat banner
15:05:28 <greensnark> And casmith789 would totally win that :P
15:05:40 <casmith789> still 14 days to go!
15:05:54 <greensnark> Hard to see how anyone can beat that sprint splat of yours :)
15:06:04 <greensnark> You timed it brilliantly
15:06:06 <casmith789> seriously I am going to hit several things if I don't get 3rd win now :p
15:06:08 <greensnark> The competition has no hope
15:06:31 <casmith789> greensnark: do not underestimate my capabilities to splat won chars in sprint
15:06:58 <greensnark> I was like "Whoa, he actually got to the stairs, I'd never have thought that was going to ha-" *splat*
15:07:15 <casmith789> did you see rwbarton's zig sprint he created?
15:07:23 <Mu_> executioner chopped his feet up as he was ascending the staircase
15:07:43 <rwbarton> ??zig sprint
15:07:44 <greensnark> Did't see the zig sprint
15:07:44 <Henzell> zig sprint[1/1]: Create a file dat/des/sprint/zig.des with these contents: http://pastebin.com/M7LjZaSH
15:08:01 <casmith789> he moved 4 squares next to an executioner and descended without dying
15:08:04 <casmith789> as a level 1 SpAr
15:08:40 <greensnark> :)
15:09:11 <Mu_> btw any idea why gretell can't display dancing weapon stats any more
15:09:34 <greensnark> I must have broken it
15:09:39 <greensnark> I think mimics and stuff are also broken
15:09:49 <greensnark> I'll get to it one of these days :)
15:09:53 <Mu_> ;p
15:10:01 <Zannick> yes, mimics and dancing weapons are broken in gretell
15:10:16 <greensnark> @??pandemonium lord
15:10:17 <Gretell> pandemonium lord (02&) | Speed: 9-17 | HD: 24 | Health: 105-248 | AC/EV: 14/14 | Damage: 42 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, !sil | Res: 06magic(26), 05fire++, 02cold, 03poison | XP: 5935 | Sp: (random).
15:10:20 <by> greensnark: yay!
15:10:31 <greensnark> Must be some of that name mangling code I added for dracs
15:10:58 <greensnark> I found the shoals rune hut all unguarded and I went in gloating, and there was an oklob in the corner :P
15:11:16 <greensnark> I spent something like 10 turns in its LOS and it spat at me once
15:11:21 <greensnark> Granted, i was hasted :P
15:11:41 <greensnark> @??oklob plant
15:11:42 <Gretell> oklob plant (09P) | Speed: 10 | HD: 10 | Health: 41-72 | AC/EV: 10/0 | Flags: 03plant, !sil | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08acid+++ | XP: 558 | Sp: acid splash (3d7+7d5).
15:21:35 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * r63f57020dfb6 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spells2.cc spells2.h spl-cast.cc spl-data.h): Enable autotargeting for Vampiric Draining and Freeze.
15:21:36 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * r54042eceaefe 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc: More sensible spell sorting in the memorisation list.
15:21:37 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * r3f36140545ac 10/crawl-ref/source/viewmap.cc: Add #ifndef USE_TILE for some static console-only functions.
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15:21:44 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * rf8c06ea9aa6b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (beam.cc directn.cc misc.cc misc.h): Don't prompt for casting auto-hit spells "in direction" of allies.
15:21:44 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * r9127fd1e72b0 10/crawl-ref/source/item_use.cc: Add "You are wearing:" message when "stasis autoIDs.
15:22:46 <Ashenzari> Conjure Flame on a Tree results in an incorrect message (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2291) by Zannick
15:33:32 <by> @?prince ribbit
15:33:32 <Gretell> Prince Ribbit (11F) | Speed: 14 (swim: 60%) | HD: 6 | Health: 40 | AC/EV: 0/16 | Damage: 20 | Flags: amphibious, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(40) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 302 | Sp: blink; teleport self.
15:33:42 <by> @?blink frog
15:33:43 <Gretell> blink frog (09F) | Speed: 14 (swim: 60%) | HD: 6 | Health: 21-47 | AC/EV: 0/16 | Damage: 2006(blink) | Flags: amphibious, cold-blooded, !sil | Res: 06magic(40) | XP: 265 | Sp: blink.
15:51:54 <doy> prince ribbit can't attack+blink at least
15:52:57 <Cryp71c> doy, I think he can, if his energy pool happens to allow him to have enough energy to both blink, land next to you, and still make an attack.
15:53:04 <Cryp71c> But yeah, not nearly as often as a blink frog.
15:53:19 <syllogism> isn't attack blink preferable
15:56:07 <by> you'd think it was, yes
15:56:23 <by> haven't found ribbit particularly troublesome though
15:56:49 <by> blink frogs are so dangerous because they're in groups I think
15:58:11 <elliptic> !lm . uniq=prince ribbit
15:58:12 <Sequell> 75. [2010-08-16] elliptic the Skirmisher (L8 SEAs) killed Prince Ribbit on turn 5835. (D:5)
15:58:34 <elliptic> that was actually sort of hard because I was out of needles and was pretty weak
16:00:51 <by> I wonder why ribbit is different from blink frogs at all -- by intention or because whoever coded it missed something?
16:01:39 <by> elliptic: oh, I agree that he's dangerous, but he doesn't seem to stand out among uniques
16:01:40 <Zannick> he can appear earlier, iirc
16:02:05 <elliptic> by: at d:4 he is a slight standout
16:02:24 <rwbarton> there aren't a lot of early uniques with Speed: 14, are there?
16:02:38 <rwbarton> or any faster than normal speed
16:02:48 <elliptic> more dangerous than any other unique before erolcha I'd say
16:03:06 <elliptic> unless I'm forgetting someone obvious
16:03:43 <Zannick> sigmund >.>
16:04:07 <rwbarton> !lg * killer=uniq s=noun
16:04:08 <Sequell> Bad arg 's=noun' - cannot summarise by noun
16:04:12 <rwbarton> !lg * killer=uniq s=killer
16:04:15 <Sequell> 53376 games for * (killer=uniq): 19897x Sigmund, 6722x Jessica, 6017x Ijyb, 5712x Terence, 1974x Blork the orc, 1876x Prince Ribbit, 1603x Crazy Yiuf, 1122x Edmund, 1058x Duvessa, 818x Erolcha, 666x Menkaure, 518x Dowan, 496x Pikel, 285x Rupert, 276x Agnes, 250x Gastronok, 233x Snorg, 232x Psyche, 191x Purgy, 185x Nessos, 184x Erica, 180x Frederick, 174x Joseph, 169x Norbert, 164x Boris, 163x Niko...
16:04:26 <elliptic> definitely more dangerous than sigmund, of course sigmund appears at half the depth though
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16:04:49 <Zannick> well, d:2 vs d:4
16:04:50 <by> !lg * t killer=uniq=skiller
16:04:50 <Sequell> No games for * (t killer=uniq=skiller).
16:04:52 <elliptic> !lg * t killer=uniq s=killer
16:04:53 <Sequell> 3379 games for * (t killer=uniq): 774x Sigmund, 324x Ijyb, 324x Terence, 263x Crazy Yiuf, 208x Jessica, 183x Duvessa, 182x Prince Ribbit, 135x Blork the orc, 100x Menkaure, 81x Dowan, 73x Edmund, 72x Pikel, 50x Erolcha, 49x Joseph, 43x poisonous meat, 39x Rupert, 35x Nessos, 34x Gastronok, 31x Purgy, 30x Agnes, 30x Grinder, 26x giant spore, 20x Nikola, 20x Aizul, 18x Norbert, 17x Wayne, 14x Mauric...
16:05:03 <by> thanks
16:05:38 <by> hasted uniques could qualify for higher than speed 10
16:05:55 <rwbarton> usually you can get out of LOS in one turn though
16:06:20 <by> !lg * t killer=sigmund s=ktyp
16:06:20 <Sequell> 774 games for * (t killer=sigmund): 431x mon, 335x beam, 5x disintegration, 3x pois
16:06:55 <elliptic> the only early unique with haste relevant for comparison is blork
16:07:12 <by> Sigmund (428 melee, 3 ranged)
16:07:20 <rwbarton> of course any unique with a wand of disintegration can be dangerous
16:07:21 <by> from killers.html
16:07:53 <elliptic> anyway, I don't think there is anything wrong with ribbit... one of the most dangerous uniques, but an interesting one
16:08:10 <elliptic> !lg . killer=prince ribbit
16:08:10 <Sequell> 1. hyperbolic the Cudgeler (L8 MDFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by Prince Ribbit on D:4 on 2010-03-30, with 1412 points after 5601 turns and 0:21:59.
16:08:12 <by> !tell greensnark turney10/killers.html says Sigmund has 428 melee, 3 ranged kills, while sequell has more reasonable 335 beam kills
16:08:14 <Henzell> by: OK, I'll let greensnark know.
16:08:15 <herself> with any poison he's cakewalk
16:08:28 <elliptic> !lg . killer=prince ribbit x=v
16:08:28 <Sequell> 1. [v=0.6.0] hyperbolic the Cudgeler (L8 MDFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by Prince Ribbit on D:4 on 2010-03-30, with 1412 points after 5601 turns and 0:21:59.
16:08:40 <herself> !lg . killer=prince ribbit x=v
16:08:42 <Sequell> 1. [v=0.5.1] herself the Quickloader (L7 MDHu), mangled by Prince Ribbit on D:5 on 2009-08-12, with 612 points after 5860 turns and 0:25:39.
16:08:53 <by> !lg . killer=prince ribbit
16:08:54 <Sequell> 3. rob the Skirmisher (L3 DSCK), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by Prince Ribbit on D:4 on 2010-07-26, with 199 points after 3488 turns and 0:05:35.
16:09:12 <Zannick> !lg * t killer=prince ribbit s=place
16:09:13 <Sequell> 182 games for * (t killer=prince ribbit): 106x D:4, 41x D:5, 16x D:6, 7x D:7, 6x D:3, 5x D:8, 1x Temple
16:09:19 <Zannick> !lm * t uniq=prince ribbit s=place
16:09:20 <Sequell> 920 milestones for * (t uniq=prince ribbit): 182x D:4, 177x D:5, 165x D:6, 145x D:7, 108x D:8, 78x D:9, 16x Lair:1, 14x Orc:2, 12x Lair:2, 10x Lair:3, 6x Orc:1, 5x D:3, 1x D:10, 1x D:12
16:09:43 <by> !lg * t killer=prince ribbit place=d:3 -tv
16:09:44 <Sequell> 6. BadBadger, XL4 DEIE, T:2834 requested for FooTV.
16:10:03 <elliptic> the d:3 prince ribbits were presumably dragged upstairs
16:10:23 <Zannick> about 300 ribbits on d:4
16:10:27 <Zannick> 200 on d:5
16:10:38 <by> yes
16:12:47 <rwbarton> !lg * t killer=~blork s=place
16:12:48 <Sequell> 136 games for * (t killer=~blork): 76x D:4, 37x D:5, 10x D:6, 7x D:3, 6x D:7
16:12:57 <rwbarton> !lm * t uniq=~blork s=place
16:12:59 <Sequell> 1390 milestones for * (t uniq=~blork): 360x D:4, 302x D:5, 228x D:6, 192x D:7, 135x D:8, 102x D:9, 20x Orc:1, 15x D:3, 12x Orc:2, 6x Orc:3, 4x D:10, 4x D:11, 3x Elf:1, 2x D:12, 1x Vault:3, 1x Temple, 1x Elf:4, 1x Volcano, 1x Abyss
16:13:26 <rwbarton> blork has pretty much the same range of dungeon levels
16:15:08 <elliptic> looks like they are d:4-9 uniques
16:15:28 <rwbarton> it's somewhat more complicated than that but basically yes
16:15:37 <rwbarton> prince ribbit can also appear in lair
16:15:50 <rwbarton> with a pack of friends
16:15:53 <Zannick> by lair blink flogs also appear
16:16:14 <rwbarton> right, he's par for the course by then
16:16:17 <Zannick> lair is, what, d:8-11?
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16:20:17 <elliptic> lair entrance is d:8-13
16:24:04 <rwbarton> other uniques with the 4-9 range are dowan+duvessa, edmund, and pikel
16:28:44 <elliptic> of those I'd say ribbit > d+d > blork > pikel > edmund
16:28:56 <elliptic> but the gaps aren't too large
16:39:16 <doy> HP: 53/53 (66)
16:39:19 <doy> pretty annoying
16:41:53 <stabwound> I miscasted blade hands and got 4 bad mutations by the time the glowing wore off
16:41:58 <stabwound> kind of brutal
16:42:40 <stabwound> all from yellow glow
16:42:55 <elliptic> ouch
16:42:58 <by> consider yourself lucky that bad mutations aren't really that bad in 0.7 :)
16:43:17 <elliptic> usually I just get 4 bad mutations from zot trap glow
16:43:31 <stabwound> yeah, none of them were teleportitis or anything, but still
16:43:55 <stabwound> I did get slow healing though
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16:52:58 <Zannick> portitis, anger, and fast metabolism tend to be ones that lead to my death most often
16:53:48 <stabwound> I've only ever had to deal with anger once
16:54:04 <stabwound> it's horrid
16:54:18 <Zannick> i once had anger and clarity intrisic at the same time
16:54:25 <Zannick> while wearing a amulet of rage, too
16:54:32 <elliptic> at least now clarity and stasis both negate anger
16:54:35 <Zannick> intrinsic *
16:55:40 <casmith789> berserkitis is easy to deal with if you're a pure caster :p
16:56:29 <stabwound> teleportitis/anger make the game annoying to play
16:56:47 <stabwound> I did zot:5 with teleporitis once because I was tired of looking for cure mutation
16:56:56 <stabwound> I don't recommend it :O
16:57:20 <casmith789> I know what you mean
16:57:31 <by> anger has helped some weak characters of mine through lair
16:57:46 <casmith789> I switched to jiyva for the rune and dived through zot just because I had *TELE
16:59:01 <elliptic> I almost always use random teleport strategy on zot:5 anyway, so teleportitis doesn't bother me much there :)
16:59:54 <Cryp71c> elliptic, I occasionally use random teleport, though this last time I think I got stuck between several orbs of fire, an ancient lich, and a killer klown
17:00:03 <Cryp71c> I'm probably not going to be doing it terribly often, anymore
17:00:29 <elliptic> what is this "stuck" you speak of? just teleport again :P
17:00:41 <elliptic> or run through them
17:00:51 <stabwound> I'm way too much of a pansy to do the random teleport thing
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17:01:14 <stabwound> maybe with dmsl
17:01:26 <Zannick> i have random tele'd out of the orb room into the uncleared half of the vault
17:01:37 <casmith789> random tele is really easy to do and very safe
17:01:41 <Zannick> because the teleport went off before my =cTele was on
17:02:26 <elliptic> zannick: that doesn't count as the random teleport strategy :P
17:02:33 <Zannick> no, i know
17:02:43 <Zannick> but that is why i don't like that strategy :P
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17:38:32 <Ashenzari> V:8 subvault with rune is not randomized (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2292) by reid
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19:04:26 <pointless_> maprot sucks
19:04:57 <casmith789> +1
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19:05:40 * due in ur map,  rotting it.
19:05:55 <pointless_> stop :(
19:06:21 <due> rot rot rot!
19:06:21 <Henzell> due: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
19:06:27 <due> !messages
19:06:28 <Henzell> (1/1) Keskitalo said (9h 25m 29s ago): non-functional sketches: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=user:evktalo#project_subvaultified_volcanoes
19:06:56 <pointless_> a jelly ate 1/2 the doors in my sprint III map
19:07:14 <due> yeah, that gets annoying.
19:10:29 <Zannick> yeah, jellies eating doors...not exactly a +
19:10:30 <Zannick> ;)
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19:13:18 <due> did anyone see casmith's death last night?
19:13:21 <due> died on the stairs with the orb.
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19:13:49 <valrus> can you tv it
19:13:52 <Zannick> on d:1?
19:14:40 <elliptic> zannick: in sprint, so sort of
19:14:45 <Zannick> oh.
19:14:51 <elliptic> he died while ascending the stairs with the orb
19:14:52 <Zannick> ouch.
19:15:06 <elliptic> ??casmith789[7]
19:15:06 <Henzell> casmith789[7/7]: !lm casmith789 sprint type=orb 31 -tv:>$
19:15:19 <elliptic> I think that has his whole orb run, so it is a little long
19:15:28 <due> it's cool to watch though
19:15:33 <elliptic> cool though, yeah
19:15:53 <Zannick> you could also tv from lg
19:16:01 <Zannick> if you just want to see the death
19:18:29 <due> he had no consumables left
19:19:20 <casmith789> hmm I wonder when my death will stop being talked about :p
19:21:13 <pointless_> Hate sprint III early game
19:22:27 <due> casmith789: never
19:22:51 <casmith789> (:
19:23:09 <casmith789> at least I won to follow it up :p
19:23:57 <Zannick> !lg * t sprint map=~mu ktyp=winning s=char
19:23:58 <Sequell> 4 games for * (t map=~mu ktyp=winning): 3x SpEn, 1x DEFE
19:24:03 <Zannick> ahahaha
19:24:22 <pointless_> !lg * t sprint map=~mu ktyp=winning s=name
19:24:22 <Sequell> 4 games for * (t map=~mu ktyp=winning): 1x casmith789, 1x Grimm, 1x elliptic, 1x syllogism
19:24:22 <Zannick> spen is either popular or overpowered.
19:24:26 <casmith789> to be fair you don't need to use spen
19:24:34 <casmith789> it's just to get through the early game
19:24:39 <Zannick> as the first three wins for regular are, as well
19:24:50 <Zannick> casmith789: i've been trying spck.
19:24:52 <casmith789> well spen in regular is more obvious why
19:25:15 <casmith789> enchants are being hit with the nerfhammer though
19:25:25 <casmith789> so I guess that will change
19:25:41 <elliptic> the strange thing is that people didn't use to play spen speedruns
19:25:53 <elliptic> I only started because I saw n78291 experimenting with them a bit
19:26:33 <elliptic> but I'm pretty sure they would still have been good in 0.5 or probably earlier versions too
19:26:38 <Zannick> first win last year was spck, so that's why i gave them a shot
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19:26:50 <casmith789> when I first came to crawl, I saw DD speedruns, but SpEn seemed like the obvious choice to me when I played it first in 0.6
19:27:02 <elliptic> !lg * spen won turns<30000 1
19:27:03 <Sequell> 1. hyperbolic the Spry (L15 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-03-23, with 3144664 points after 20429 turns and 1:19:26.
19:27:04 <MarvinPA> i guess people used to speedrun with heavy armoured DD?
19:27:22 <MarvinPA> but armour sucks now :P
19:27:23 <elliptic> marvinpa: that still has the turncount record
19:27:28 <MarvinPA> yeah
19:27:39 <elliptic> nobody ever tried to do that for realtime I think
19:27:40 <casmith789> you can definitely beat 20k
19:27:50 <elliptic> casmith789: what?
19:28:05 <casmith789> turns
19:28:11 <elliptic> turncount record is much lower than 20k if we are not just talking about this tourney
19:28:17 <casmith789> oh right
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19:28:49 <elliptic> 0.5 DDBe or DDCK was pretty fun to speedrun though
19:28:55 <casmith789> I'm not good at turncount speedruns though, far too impatient. Like my realtime most :)
19:29:06 <elliptic> infinite magic mapping scrolls = fun
19:29:10 <Ashenzari> Potion of blood should not be autopickuped for non-vampires (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2293) by minmay
19:29:35 <elliptic> !lg * won turns>20000 s=cv
19:29:35 <Sequell> 3022 games for * (won turns>20000): 834x 0.5, 705x 0.4, 435x 0.3, 313x 0.6, 215x 0.7, 157x 0.6-a, 149x 0.2, 105x 0.7-a, 62x 0.1, 22x 0.4-a, 21x 0.5-a, 4x 0.8-a
19:29:37 <elliptic> oops
19:29:41 <elliptic> !lg * won turns<20000 s=cv
19:29:42 <Sequell> 7 games for * (won turns<20000): 4x 0.5, 2x 0.7, 1x 0.6
19:29:57 <elliptic> !lg * won dur<7200 s=cv
19:29:58 <Sequell> 8 games for * (won dur<7200): 3x 0.7, 1x 0.5, 1x 0.6-a, 1x 0.6, 1x 0.7-a, 1x 0.4
19:31:10 <elliptic> !lg * won dur<7200 s=char
19:31:10 <Sequell> 8 games for * (won dur<7200): 5x SpEn, 2x SpCK, 1x MDBe
19:31:18 <elliptic> !lg * won turns<20000 s=char
19:31:18 <Sequell> 7 games for * (won turns<20000): 3x DDBe, 2x SpEn, 1x DDCK, 1x SpCK
19:32:19 <elliptic> !lg * won turns<30000 s=char
19:32:19 <Sequell> 14 games for * (won turns<30000): 5x SpEn, 3x DDBe, 1x MDBe, 1x HaEn, 1x DDCK, 1x SpCK, 1x DESu, 1x MiBe
19:32:27 <elliptic> !lg * won dur<10800 s=char
19:32:27 <Sequell> 17 games for * (won dur<10800): 7x SpEn, 3x MDBe, 3x SpCK, 1x DECj, 1x HEWz, 1x SpAE, 1x DSCr
19:33:09 <elliptic> !lg * won dur<14400 s=char
19:33:10 <Sequell> 27 games for * (won dur<14400): 11x SpEn, 4x SpCK, 3x DDBe, 3x MDBe, 1x DECj, 1x SpAs, 1x SpAE, 1x HEWz, 1x MiBe, 1x DSCr
19:33:15 <elliptic> !lg * won turns<40000 s=char
19:33:15 <Sequell> 22 games for * (won turns<40000): 7x SpEn, 4x DDBe, 2x MDBe, 2x SpCK, 2x DDCK, 1x DESu, 1x HaEn, 1x HOCK, 1x SpAE, 1x MiBe
19:37:11 <due> yup, TrPr of Yred = win
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20:32:54 <Lizzard88> I'm having trouble getting crawl to compile
20:34:28 <Lizzard88> Package freetype2 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
20:43:47 <Lizzard88> allo?
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21:13:23 <stabwound> I wish you could make artifact armour ponderous
21:13:27 <stabwound> I am disappoint
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22:42:32 <Zannick> "The spell is powerful enough to literally pull someone out of the Death's Door, albeit the
22:42:35 <Zannick> shock will render the caster incapable for a while."
22:42:36 <Zannick> grammar?
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