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01:48:14 <by> !lg * t sprint win
01:48:14 <Sequell> 9. elliptic the Enchanter (L16 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 7443476 points after 8004 turns and 1:27:03.
01:48:26 <by> !lg * t sprint win s=char
01:48:26 <Sequell> 9 games for * (t win): 5x SpEn, 1x DEIE, 1x OgCK, 1x TrHu, 1x SpSt
01:49:30 <by> !lg * t sprint win s=name
01:49:30 <Sequell> 9 games for * (t win): 2x hayenne, 1x Kal, 1x Grimm, 1x heteroy, 1x elliptic, 1x snoopy, 1x Demos, 1x Fungee
01:50:11 <by> !lg * t sprint win 1
01:50:11 <Sequell> 1. heteroy the Backstabber (L12 SpSt), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb on 2010-08-01, with 270159 points after 1915 turns and 0:10:59.
01:50:30 <by> oh
01:50:37 <by> !lg * t sprint win s=map
01:50:37 <Sequell> 9 games for * (t win): 4x dungeon sprint 1, 3x the violet keep of menkaure, 2x dungeon sprint mu
01:50:49 <by> !lg * t sprint win map=~mu
01:50:49 <Sequell> 2. elliptic the Enchanter (L16 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 7443476 points after 8004 turns and 1:27:03.
01:50:52 <by> !lg * t sprint win map=~mu 1
01:50:53 <Sequell> 1. Grimm the Politician (L17 SpEn), worshipper of Makhleb, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 7594606 points after 7900 turns and 1:06:51.
01:54:39 <by> did the sprint start work well, or was there trouble?
01:54:56 <by> !lg * t sprint map=~mu xl>10 s=killer
01:54:56 <Sequell> 40 games for * (t map=~mu xl>10): 7x , 2x an Orb Guardian, 2x an azure jelly, 2x a killer bee, 2x a redback, 1x an alligator snapping turtle, 1x a golden dragon, 1x Maud, 1x Mennas, 1x a vault guard, 1x a death drake, 1x a black mamba, 1x an acid blob, 1x a Balrug, 1x Xtahua, 1x an unseen horror, 1x an iron troll simulacrum, 1x a hell knight, 1x a spriggan druid, 1x a greater naga, 1x an Execution...
01:55:12 <by> !lg * t sprint map=~mu xl>10 s=char
01:55:12 <Sequell> 40 games for * (t map=~mu xl>10): 18x SpEn, 10x TrBe, 5x SpSt, 2x DEFE, 1x TrHu, 1x DEIE, 1x MiTm, 1x DSFE, 1x SETm
01:55:29 <by> !lg * t sprint map=~mu xl>10 killer=mennas -tv
01:55:29 <Sequell> 1. casmith789, XL15 SpEn, T:13545 requested for FooTV.
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03:46:22 <Napkin> Hi guys
03:46:36 <Napkin> greensnark: did everything work with CDO and the Sprint map?
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04:20:00 <due> Napkin: looks like
04:25:25 <syllogism> I'm going to play sprint 3 but not win until there are three wins (one to go?)
04:26:46 <by> why is it taking them so long
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04:26:53 <syllogism> it's pretty tricky
04:27:04 <syllogism> and people keep trying the same combos
04:27:08 <syllogism> sick of these SpEns :P
04:27:20 <due> SpEn is pretty good.
04:27:21 <by> does firestorm not work?
04:27:25 <syllogism> casmith789 is in hell
04:28:18 <by> sif piety is working ok now?
04:28:34 <syllogism> seems so
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04:33:33 <due> mu! <3
04:33:40 <Mu_> yo
04:34:06 <Mu_> still only 2 sprint winners :o
04:36:20 <due> i know
04:36:30 <Mu_> i worry it's too tough :P
04:36:37 <due> i'm not waiting for the third win
04:36:54 <due> i'll just not ascend until after
04:37:15 <syllogism> it's supposed to be tough
04:37:24 <syllogism> sprint 1 was tough until the noise nerf :P
04:38:55 <Mu_> oh pseudonut is approaching zot, maybe he has runes too
04:44:55 <due> I need a better combo for this
04:45:15 <Mu_> i had a lot of fun with DEFE
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04:55:34 <Mu_> i think he's gonna die
04:59:20 <due> WE'RE AL GONNA DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE
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05:05:13 <syllogism> Mu_: you didn't fix the temple sometimes not having any books at all
05:05:39 <Mu_> o whoops
05:08:01 <by> !lg * map=~mu t sprint win
05:08:01 <Sequell> No games for * (map=~mu t win).
05:08:13 <by> !lg * sprint map=~mu t win
05:08:13 <Sequell> No games for * (map=~mu t win).
05:08:22 <by> !lg * sprint t win map=~mu
05:08:23 <Sequell> 2. elliptic the Enchanter (L16 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 7443476 points after 8004 turns and 1:27:03.
05:08:49 <by> does abyssing still work for the orb run?
05:09:59 <due> what's that?
05:10:18 <Mu_> i think it does
05:11:27 <by> due: get banished with the orb, and a portal out of the abyss takes you to the D:1 upstairs
05:11:40 <due> huh
05:11:47 <due> lugonu ftw then?
05:13:59 <kilobyte> you can use corruption just once, though
05:14:14 <kilobyte> Zot definitely asks for it, though
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05:29:47 <syllogism> do I get xp for forest fire kills. Guessing not
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05:33:18 <kilobyte> syllogism: you should -- I coded it that way, but it's totally untested
05:33:26 <syllogism> oh
05:33:51 <Mu_> another carefully crafted vault about to be ruined by terrain destruction :P
05:34:22 <syllogism> this stone golem is pretty annoying
05:39:42 <kilobyte> syllogism: I checked, you do get exp
05:51:36 <due> hm, erolcha's a bitch
05:54:22 <greensnark> Napkin: Everything went great on CDO
05:54:22 <Henzell> greensnark: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them.
05:54:35 <greensnark> syllogism: You can win right now, the tourney scripts will ignore your sprint games :P
05:54:47 <syllogism> nice
05:55:25 <greensnark> We should show the character on the overview page only if it is not SpEn
05:55:34 <syllogism> +1 :P
05:57:34 <kilobyte> !lg * t win s=char
05:57:35 <Sequell> 177 games for * (t win): 30x SpEn, 15x DDNe, 15x GhFE, 9x HaTm, 9x MfCr, 7x MfIE, 5x HECr, 4x HaBe, 3x KoCr, 3x SpVM, 3x DSVM, 3x HEWz, 2x KoBe, 2x HEFE, 2x SEIE, 2x MfFE, 2x DSAs, 2x DEWz, 2x NaIE, 2x DSNe, 2x HEIE, 1x HECj, 1x DSFi, 1x CeAM, 1x DDBe, 1x MuSu, 1x SEAE, 1x MfMo, 1x KeFE, 1x DGEn, 1x OgCr, 1x DSCK, 1x DDCK, 1x SETm, 1x TrWn, 1x HaAM, 1x DSWz, 1x KeCr, 1x HOPa, 1x VpMo, 1x MiPa, 1x ...
05:58:00 <kilobyte> heck, DDNe?
05:58:09 <greensnark> DD are pretty cheap too :P
05:58:28 <greensnark> Look at GhFE go :P
05:58:35 <greensnark> !lg * t win seas
05:58:36 <Sequell> No games for * (t win seas).
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06:03:21 <due> TrMo of Kiku, fun.
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07:10:10 <syllogism> ballistomycetes everywhere
07:14:03 <Mu_> syllogism a lot of those elves have rpois robes :P
07:14:09 <syllogism> oh right, my idea :P
07:14:36 <Mu_> i gave a few rC robes too to stop hibernators :P
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07:20:47 <syllogism> what happened to all the  elveS?
07:20:58 <Mu_> no clue
07:20:59 <syllogism> I dont think I saw a single annihilator/demonologist
07:23:18 <Mu_> are you havin food trouble
07:23:28 <syllogism> not really, I've two food shops left and sustenance
07:23:30 <syllogism> and high spellcasting
07:23:34 <Mu_> kk
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07:34:35 <Mu_> ouch syll :P
07:35:14 <syllogism> I wonder if the whole level is like that
07:36:06 <Mu_> i don't understand why stuff at the bottom of the map is waking up
07:36:10 <pointless_> do clouds of chaos do anything
07:36:20 <Mu_> they act like the weapon brand
07:36:54 <rwbarton> in my experience they have never done anything
07:37:20 <Mu_> they're not as horrible as you might expect yeah
07:37:48 <rwbarton> do they only act pretty rarely then?
07:38:32 <Mu_> the effect is pretty benign sometimes
07:39:02 <rwbarton> I just never saw any effect at all
07:39:38 <Mu_> in sprint?
07:39:54 <Mu_> in earlier version clouds of chaos did nothing but it should be fixed now
07:40:04 <rwbarton> in sprint III yesterday, yeah
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07:40:13 <rwbarton> on CDO if it matters
07:41:25 <syllogism> it's possible it didn't get cherrypicked to 0.7
07:41:33 <syllogism> since it was noticed during sprint 3 testing I recall?
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07:47:56 <Mu_> you're right it does nothing :(
07:48:39 <Mu_> i thought for sure that change was in
08:44:19 <by> argh, did the stupid sprint streak breaker, too :(
08:46:02 <Mu_> ouch :(
08:46:11 <by> greensnark: if I play on cao instead now, can I streak my cdo TrCr?
08:46:48 <greensnark> !lg by'
08:46:49 <Sequell> No games for by'.
08:46:51 <greensnark> !lg by
08:46:52 <Sequell> 2147. rob the Heavyweight Champion (L25 TrCr), worshipper of Elyvilon, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 1279949 points after 120264 turns and 11:47:49.
08:46:58 <by> @whereis
08:46:58 <Gretell> No where information for by.
08:47:02 <by> @whereis rob
08:47:02 <Gretell> rob the Skirmisher (L1 TrCr) is currently on D:1 after 0 turns.
08:47:14 <greensnark> Sure, it counts as a streak as long as the games don't have overlapping times
08:47:39 <greensnark> The tourney scripts don't know about intervening games unless the game ends
08:47:48 <by> ok
08:48:17 <by> so if a streak game goes really badly, you should leave it and switch servers...
08:48:31 <greensnark> Yes
08:49:22 <by> here's to playing on cao rest of tournament hopefully
08:49:44 <greensnark> You can switch back to CDO once you break your streak :P
08:49:50 <by> exactly
08:49:50 <greensnark> Reduce load on cao
08:50:06 <greensnark> Hey, cabal has lost #2
08:50:54 <by> dgl menu should warn: "You're on a streak, do you really want to start a new game?" :)
08:51:23 <greensnark> You should streak SEAs, should be pretty easy
08:51:48 <greensnark> Should have disqualified As from Nemelex Choice :P
08:52:00 <by> yes, SEAs sounds not so bad
08:52:21 <by> though turning it into a UC character is not so attractive to me
08:52:30 <by> !lg . t win x=sk
08:52:31 <Sequell> 8. [sk=Unarmed Combat] rob the Heavyweight Champion (L25 TrCr), worshipper of Elyvilon, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-15, with 1279949 points after 120264 turns and 11:47:49.
08:52:33 <by> !lg . t win x=sk -2
08:52:33 <Sequell> 7. [sk=Unarmed Combat] rob the Sensei (L23 VpMo), worshipper of Okawaru, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-11, with 1413100 points after 83184 turns and 8:13:48.
08:53:12 <greensnark> Still no third Sprint win, eh
08:53:15 <greensnark> That's pretty impressive
08:53:28 <pointless_> I'm working on it, but resting through the incessant zot noises is time consuming
08:54:22 <by> pointless_: can't you runrest_ignore them?
08:54:35 <pointless_> I tried, but it didn't work. Maybe I am doing it wrong
08:55:31 <by> put it between the line that reads runrest.lua and the one that reads runrest_messages.txt iirc
08:55:47 <by> but these things always take ages to debug for me, too
08:59:03 <RjY> could streaks ignore turn 0 quits? or is that too exploitable/cheesy/whatever?
08:59:23 <Mu_> would let you scum wanderers
09:00:14 <syllogism> or starting vault
09:01:16 <greensnark> !lg * sprint s=place
09:01:17 <Sequell> 42996 games for *: 41820x Sprint, 1176x Abyss (Sprint)
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09:01:25 <greensnark> !lm * sprint s=place
09:01:25 <Sequell> 42987 milestones for *: 42620x Sprint, 367x Abyss (Sprint)
09:01:37 <rwbarton> !lg * sprint s=map
09:01:38 <Sequell> 42996 games for *: 25494x , 12000x dungeon sprint 1, 4477x the violet keep of menkaure, 1025x dungeon sprint mu
09:01:49 <rwbarton> oh it would be cool to know about the subvaults
09:01:59 <Mu_> there's a pretty nice spread of killers so far
09:02:19 <greensnark> !lg * sprint map=~mu s=ckiller
09:02:19 <Sequell> 1025 games for * (map=~mu): 137x a human, 102x a grey rat, 95x a water elemental, 93x Jessica, 65x an ooze, 53x an elf, 32x a chaos spawn, 26x Crazy Yiuf, 24x a wolf, 23x a deep elf priest, 19x a giant mite, 19x quitting, 15x a spatial vortex, 14x a wizard, 14x a smoke demon, 13x Jozef, 12x a ghoul, 11x Snorg, 11x a scorpion, 9x a phantom, 8x leaving, 7x an orc warrior, 7x cloud, 7x a trapdoor spi...
09:02:36 <Mu_> once you get past the people dying in the first rooms at least :P
09:02:39 <Mu_> mennas has a kill
09:02:41 <greensnark> !lg * sprint map=~mu xl>10 s=ckiller
09:02:42 <Sequell> 62 games for * (map=~mu xl>10): 4x cloud, 3x a redback, 3x an azure jelly, 2x a greater naga, 2x an Orb Guardian, 2x a spriggan druid, 2x winning, 2x a spriggan defender, 2x a vampire knight, 2x a killer bee, 1x a spiny frog, 1x Maud, 1x a pandemonium lord, 1x an acid blob, 1x a Balrug, 1x trap, 1x a black mamba, 1x Xtahua, 1x a death drake, 1x a hydra, 1x an unseen horror, 1x Duvessa, 1x Dowan, 1...
09:02:58 <greensnark> !lg * sprint map=~mu xl>10 killer=Dowan
09:02:59 <Sequell> 1. casmith789 the Backstabber (L11 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by Dowan (shard of ice) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 10794 points after 2700 turns and 0:08:52.
09:03:00 <rwbarton> a pan lord?
09:03:05 <Mu_> who got killed by a pan lord
09:03:13 <casmith789> one guy got the orb
09:03:14 <greensnark> !lg * sprint map=~mu xl>10 ckiller=pandemonium lord
09:03:15 <Sequell> 1. casmith789 the Spellbinder (L15 SpEn), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by Mennas (a +0,+2 great mace of protection) in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 76546 points after 13545 turns and 0:51:09.
09:03:19 <syllogism> heh
09:03:20 <casmith789> haha
09:03:25 <greensnark> Just misfire of unique detection as usual
09:03:30 <Mu_> haha
09:03:41 <Mu_> how inappropriate for mennas :P
09:03:52 <greensnark> He's just a pan lord in angelic disguise
09:05:02 <Mu_> the lerneaean hydras has a kill too
09:05:11 <greensnark> Are you sure you spelled that right
09:05:21 <Mu_> :p
09:05:24 <syllogism> the swamp/shoal vaults aren't exactly balanced :P
09:05:39 <syllogism> some are clearly easier than some
09:05:46 <greensnark> Well, everyone just goes in invisible and stabs the lot of them
09:05:53 <Mu_> 2x a potion of strong poison
09:05:54 <syllogism> @?? xtahua
09:05:54 <Gretell> Xtahua (05D) | Speed: 10 | HD: 19 | Health: 133 | AC/EV: 15/7 | Damage: 35, 20, 17 | Flags: see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(177), 05fire++, 03poison | Vul: 12cold | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 5449 | Sp: flame blast (3d38).
09:05:57 <Mu_> that amuses me more than it should
09:06:09 <casmith789> swamp = wand of fire
09:06:29 <Mu_> ya you can break into the vault easily if you burn down the trees
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09:09:24 <syllogism> Mu_: the ballistomycetes have killed the statues
09:09:34 <Mu_> hahaha
09:09:38 <syllogism> I imagine they also killed boris and nikolas
09:09:42 <syllogism> err
09:09:45 <syllogism> nikola
09:10:01 <Mu_> convert to fedhas
09:10:02 <Mu_> :p
09:11:40 <syllogism> Going to fire storm them :P
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09:21:02 <greensnark> syllogism: What the hell are you doing with all those ballistos :P
09:21:44 <syllogism> something woke up the spores early on and one died somehow :P
09:22:45 <greensnark> Haha Roxanne
09:23:08 <syllogism> my thinking there was "haha her spells have a range of 4 or so"
09:23:08 <greensnark> That was a beautiful blink
09:23:29 <Mu_> incoming crystal spear
09:24:12 <syllogism> if it blinks me again, I'll be angry :P
09:25:34 <greensnark> Why aren't you killing Roxanne :P
09:25:49 <syllogism> I wanted to firestorm it outside LOS :P
09:27:24 <greensnark> !lg * t place=snake|swamp|shoals s=br
09:27:25 <Sequell> 179 games for * (t place=snake|swamp|shoals): 64x Snake, 58x Shoals, 57x Swamp
09:27:28 <greensnark> :(
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09:39:07 <syllogism> So I walked into a zot trap, triggered it and then once my Flight wore off it triggered it again
09:39:20 <syllogism> this time I got amnesia :P
09:39:34 <Mu_> the big '..............' was hilarious :p
09:40:28 <pointless_> These cloud generators are really annoying
09:41:07 <greensnark> syllogism is playing Sprint III: Ballistomycete edition
09:41:23 <syllogism> I had cleared these areas already too :P
09:41:23 <greensnark> Whenever I watch the game he's using sticky flame on a ballisto
09:41:33 <Mu_> reminds me of slime that one time
09:41:48 <syllogism> notice all the floors are covered in mold too :P
09:42:02 <syllogism> helpfully showing me the way to the nearest ballisto
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09:45:45 <syllogism> Mu_: do the efreet clouds burn the scrolls
09:46:00 <Mu_> maybe
09:46:19 <syllogism> I think I've the last few ballistos cornered around the zot entrance :P
09:53:02 <Mu_> using the quad damage should generate a milestone imo
09:58:37 <pointless_> !lg . sprint
09:58:38 <Sequell> 339. pointless the Infuser (L4 SpEn), slain by a chaos spawn in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 110 points after 200 turns and 0:01:34.
09:58:44 <pointless_> !lg . sprint
09:58:45 <Sequell> 339. pointless the Infuser (L4 SpEn), slain by a chaos spawn in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 110 points after 200 turns and 0:01:34.
09:59:20 <pointless_> !lg . sprint
09:59:21 <Sequell> 340. pointless the Blackguard (L6 SpEn), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by a spatial vortex in Sprint (Sprint III: "The Ten Rune Challenge") on 2010-08-15, with 364 points after 186 turns and 0:01:09.
09:59:23 <pointless_> there we go
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10:57:56 <Ashenzari> Bad message when putting on an amulet of guardian spirit while MP pool is empty (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2285) by Nexos
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11:43:11 <Ashenzari> remove creaking doors from sprint (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2286) by reid
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14:41:40 <dpeg> Cheers
14:41:47 <dpeg> !seen greensnark
14:41:50 <Henzell> I last saw greensnark at Sun Aug 15 17:15:03 2010 UTC (2h 26m 47s ago) saying Bad capitalization for the lernaean hydra zombie :( on ##crawl.
14:42:00 <dpeg> greensnark: still around?
14:42:21 <greensnark> Sup
14:42:31 <dpeg> Hi there!
14:42:33 <greensnark> I'm not really around unless it's something simple :P
14:42:41 <dpeg> work?
14:42:45 <greensnark> As ever
14:42:50 <dpeg> Can we see how many sprinters took up the task?
14:43:15 <greensnark> !lg * sprint map=~mu x=cdist(name)
14:43:15 <Sequell> 1472 games for * (map=~mu): cdist(name)=91
14:43:32 <dpeg> greensnark: You're working day and night, whole week? For how long? It's okay for a while, but not forever :S
14:43:41 <greensnark> Well, I took Saturday off :P
14:43:50 <dpeg> okay
14:44:13 <Ashenzari> Ghouls should get Claws3 (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2287) by angrykoopa
14:44:32 <dpeg> greensnark: so I won't enquire on the GhFE, these seem to be really busy times for you.
14:44:58 <greensnark> Yes, I'll get back to the GhFE once I have time :)
14:45:08 <dpeg> Same for my DDCK :)
14:45:42 <dpeg> I wonder if we should declare tournament streaks to not repeat any previous species or background (for full points).
14:46:57 <dpeg> jaeger won a SpEn of Zin
14:47:12 <rwbarton> some change along those lines is a very good idea in my opinion
14:47:42 <dpeg> rwbarton: scoring will improve over the years, I am sure
14:48:00 <rwbarton> that reminds me, what is a good place to suggest scoring rule changes for future tournaments before I forget them?
14:48:12 <rwbarton> is there a wiki page maybe?
14:48:49 <dpeg> rwbarton: always the wiki, yes
14:54:27 <dpeg> rwbarton: if you need a new page and cannot create it, tell me
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14:54:50 <rwbarton> ok, I will look for an existing page
14:56:07 <st_> am I supposed to have 2x20 points for winning two games godless?
14:56:16 <dpeg> no
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14:59:20 <rwbarton> It doesn't look like there are any tournament-related wiki pages
15:01:54 <dpeg> rwbarton: quite possibly
15:02:04 <dpeg> did you use the search? it is usually quite good
15:02:20 <rwbarton> yes, I searched for "tournament" and "tourney"
15:11:39 <dpeg> https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:tournament:start
15:11:42 <dpeg> There you go :)
15:11:44 <rwbarton> thanks!
15:18:32 <stabwound> I wish the tournament wasn't based so much on just being able to play the most
15:18:46 <stabwound> but I guess it's hard to do it without time being a factor
15:19:12 <dpeg> stabwound: yes, we know
15:19:20 <dpeg> But that's quite hard to do...
15:19:26 <stabwound> yeah
15:19:31 <dpeg> stabwound: if you have ideas, share them
15:19:43 <dpeg> (back in 30 minutes or so)
15:20:03 <stabwound> yeah, I don't really know the solution, either... was just a random comment :P
15:20:35 <stabwound> unless individual wins didn't count for anything, or something
15:20:40 <stabwound> and only your longest streak
15:20:41 <stabwound> etc
15:21:07 <casmith789> well you can claim that longest streak is the only award you care about and just play for that :p
15:21:19 <rwbarton> part of the problem is that you can repeat these xxxx - spen - ddne streaks ad nauseam
15:21:53 <rwbarton> I am writing a wiki page to discuss exactly this!
15:21:59 <stabwound> :P
15:22:21 <stabwound> I can streak well, but I'm terrible at playing fast
15:22:27 <stabwound> especially because I have a laggy connection to CAO
15:22:56 <stabwound> don't think I could even come close to the top 3 in speed
15:23:06 <stabwound> and can't really play for 5 hours a day like I used to
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15:42:02 <CIA-42> 03j-p-e-g * rd99d3061ecb5 10/crawl-ref/source/chardump.cc: Include spell hunger in the chardump.
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16:31:37 <dpeg> back
16:37:05 <dpeg> rwbarton: thank you!
16:37:08 <dpeg> Will reply later
16:37:24 <rwbarton> No hurry
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16:41:21 <st_> !tell greensnark I've been given two sets of 20 points for winning two games without a god - check my players page
16:41:22 <Henzell> st_: OK, I'll let greensnark know.
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17:49:33 <due> morning
17:50:12 <dpeg> Hi due!
18:00:51 <dpeg> ?banners
18:00:56 <dpeg> ??banners
18:00:56 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled banners in my learndb.
18:00:59 <dpeg> ??bannerideas
18:01:00 <Henzell> I don't have a page labeled bannerideas in my learndb.
18:01:02 <dpeg> grrr
18:01:06 <dpeg> ??banner_ideas
18:01:07 <Henzell> banner ideas[1/16]: Coolest tournament weapon, funniest tournament weapon, worst tournament weapon. Submitted entries are voted upon at the end of the tournament, 5 points granted.
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18:02:13 <dpeg> Most of those are pretty bad :)
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18:10:05 <due> Most are terrible. :)
18:10:32 <elliptic> coolest paralysis death
18:13:28 <dpeg> I have added to https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:tournament:start if someone is interested.
18:14:02 <syllogism> still no third sprint win
18:14:16 <syllogism> and not for the lack of trying
18:15:50 <dpeg> syllogism: I could only start playing after the third :)
18:16:08 <syllogism> dpeg: greensnark filtered my scores out at least
18:16:12 <dpeg> syllogism: didn't have time to watch ... have there been any particularly bad exploits in Sprint?
18:16:14 <syllogism> so i already played
18:16:21 <dpeg> syllogism: ah, that's also okay.
18:16:22 <elliptic> dpeg: syllogism won a game, you should play :)
18:16:31 <dpeg> no time, unfortunately
18:16:35 <due> SpEn is pretty cheap
18:16:43 <elliptic> dpeg: you also should have seen my death's door exploiting
18:16:43 <syllogism> they still keep splatting though :P
18:16:46 <dpeg> I hope I can squeeze a win in later
18:17:07 <elliptic> it would definitely have caused you to talk about nerfing it :)
18:17:29 <felirx> Mr. Nobody was a very interesting movie
18:17:57 <syllogism> it's intended to last only 20-25 turns
18:18:06 <dpeg> So is there a bug?
18:18:06 <elliptic> I was doing things like requesting corpses from kiku and butchering them to use for sublimation while surrounded by zot monsters
18:18:09 <syllogism> though you can chain it
18:18:12 <dpeg> felirx: about what?
18:18:21 <elliptic> syllogism: it does only last 20-25 turns I think
18:18:27 <elliptic> chaining is the problem
18:18:30 <syllogism> it does not
18:18:31 <casmith789> you can chain it?
18:18:34 <syllogism> if you are hasted that's doubled
18:18:41 <felirx> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0485947/
18:18:47 <syllogism> and if you do quick actions (ie speed 6 move), more than that
18:18:51 <elliptic> it wasn't lasting 40 turns for me
18:18:53 <casmith789> you can cast it again while you're in DD?
18:18:57 <dpeg> elliptic, syllogism: I have zilch experience with Death's Door. I rely on your judgement (and subsequent) noises to take note of a potential problem.
18:18:58 <elliptic> and I was constantly hasted
18:19:00 <syllogism> your power may have been lower
18:19:06 <elliptic> casmith789: no
18:19:09 <syllogism> ??death's door
18:19:09 <Henzell> deaths door[1/1]: Renders the caster invulnerable, but reduces you to necro/2 + kiku piety/15 health (up to 13+13).  Cannot be extended or recast until one turn after expiration.  You get an end warning. Any healing effect stops the spell and paralyses you. This includes HP gain from level-up (watch out for draining). Duration is something like 16-27 turns.
18:19:15 <elliptic> but you can recast it immediately once it wears off
18:19:26 <syllogism> one turn of vulnerability at most
18:19:27 <casmith789> if you don't die, sure
18:19:53 <elliptic> you don't seem to get one turn of vulnerability if all your actions are hasted
18:19:56 <dpeg> So one idea would be to have a longer cooldown, making you actually thikn about when to use it?
18:20:03 <elliptic> I always got the first action when it wore off
18:20:22 <elliptic> (except when this happened during paralysis)
18:20:26 <dpeg> felirx: cannot watch it -- what is it about?
18:20:37 <syllogism> one extra turn of vulnerability and bringing back the duration to what it's supposed to be would suffice
18:20:51 <felirx> exploration of the choices you can make in life
18:20:59 <felirx> from a point of view of a 118 year old guy
18:21:16 <dpeg> felirx: aha. Sounds deep.
18:21:32 <felirx> not a distraction movie, needs to be followed through :)
18:21:35 <elliptic> syllogism: yeah, sounds about right
18:21:50 <dpeg> elliptic, syllogism: FR please! Thanks :)
18:22:27 <elliptic> oh, by the way, random DDoor bug: torment seemed to do exactly one damage to me under DDoor
18:22:35 <dpeg> just add that to the FR
18:23:49 <elliptic> syllogism: my DDoor was at only 8#, so not huge power
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18:37:19 <Mu_> my stupid demonic guardian keeps appearing, walking into my poisonous cloud and then turning hostile
18:39:56 <dpeg> Mu_: yes, there are probably many special cases like this. would you please file it? We can certainly work it out.
18:40:33 <Ashenzari> Death's Door is overpowered. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2288) by elliptic
18:40:39 <Mu_> monsters in general don't view poisonous clouds as threatening very often
18:41:36 <greensnark> Several of the old necro spells were designed by people on crack
18:41:36 <Henzell> greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it.
18:41:44 <greensnark> Observe also Borgnjor's
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19:38:18 <syllogism> borngjor got a marginal nerf
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21:59:05 <stabwound> what happens if you make boots of running ponderous? <:-()
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22:01:19 <stabwound> oh, the answer is: you can't
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