00:02:51 greensnark: shoals is a horrible nightmare 00:03:56 horrible nightmare? 00:04:02 I almost died 00:04:04 it was terrible 00:04:14 (: 00:04:27 so maybe I should say it's a pretty effective nightmare? 00:15:58 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 00:17:19 was the chance for ID scrolls to do more than one identification removed at some point? 00:18:17 nope, i've gotten several multi-ids 00:19:01 guess I'm just having bad luck with it 00:28:19 -!- jmsaunde has joined ##crawl-dev 00:49:48 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 00:51:15 so is gda still worth it these days 00:56:31 !lg * ktyp=winning 00:56:32 2832. Grimm the Backstabber (L18 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-01, with 1949458 points after 38946 turns and 2:18:46. 00:56:36 !lg * ktyp=winning -2 00:56:37 2831. reid the Backstabber (L18 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-01, with 1758777 points after 45077 turns and 2:48:42. 00:56:39 !lg * ktyp=winning -3 00:56:40 2830. elliptic the Backstabber (L16 SpEn), escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-01, with 2753140 points after 24105 turns and 1:35:00. 01:13:59 -!- GrimmSweeper has quit [Quit: SLEEP AWAITS] 01:21:21 I thought Jiyva wins didn't count? 01:21:57 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 01:24:30 they don't count for "earliest rune" 01:25:08 with enough scumming, it's likely possible to get one of the other runes at XL 1 01:25:22 go for it 01:25:35 you'd probably have to be a spriggan warper (for apportation) and find a source of invis early 01:25:39 and then be insanely lucky 01:25:58 which would you go for? 01:26:17 probably Swamp, come to think of it 01:26:32 most things there can't see invis IIRC, and some of the rune vaults don't completely block that style of play 01:27:04 you're visible when moving through clouds/water even when invisible 01:27:21 ah yes 01:27:31 even when levitating, for water? 01:27:42 hmmm, don't know 01:29:20 Elyvilon is probably the best god for such play, incidentally 01:34:55 ahh 01:38:46 I think I might go for XL 2, first, for the ability to blink 01:38:52 which reduces the luck needed from amazing to just very large 01:40:57 just found a bug: if you leave a level via shaft and then go back to it, the shaft is still visible on the X map 01:41:04 even though your character's aware it's collapsed 01:44:01 hmm, for gaining Jiyva piety, am I meant to pick up items and take them back to the altar? 01:44:09 -!- whig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:44:33 seems a bit scummy 02:15:12 hmmm, probably should stop now before i start making mistakes from being tired 02:20:29 so did different colored floor next to slime wall make it into 0.7, or is it just that I can't tell the difference betwee nlightgreen and green 02:22:34 oh guess it did because the stairs were definitely colored green 02:22:41 (when adjacent to the walls) 02:33:24 "The only annoying element of the rogue-like game "Dungeon Crawl" is that your character can get killed suddenly and that's that. You have to start over. From scratch." http://techlorebyigor.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-cheat-in-dungeon-crawl.html 02:33:28 :-D 02:34:58 when will you fix the bug that your save disappears when you die 02:36:49 a bad_idea suggested earlier today, which is actually kind-of nifty: make 0 HP not an instant death, just like 0 stat isn't 02:41:15 give the player exactly one turn to do something? 02:43:10 crawl doesn't check for level trickery? 02:43:41 in the comments somebody mentioned mixing levels of different games together? 02:51:04 bhaak: no trickery checks that I'm aware of 02:51:43 !lg * start>20100801 02:51:44 961. ais523 the Ducker (L1 SpCK), slain by a neqoxec in the Abyss on 2010-08-01, with 31 points after 76 turns and 0:00:31. 02:51:47 !lg * start>20100801 win 02:51:47 No games for * (start>20100801 win). 02:51:56 !lg * start>20100801 ktyp=winning 02:51:56 3. Grimm the Backstabber (L18 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 3 runes on 2010-08-01, with 1949458 points after 38946 turns and 2:18:46. 02:52:13 !lm * time>20100801 type=rune max=urune 02:52:14 44. [2010-08-01] undermind the Backstabber (L14 SpWr) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 27276. (Vault:8) 02:52:19 !lm * time>20100801 type=rune max=urune x=urune 02:52:20 44. [2010-08-01] [urune=2] undermind the Backstabber (L14 SpWr) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 27276. (Vault:8) 02:52:32 that's just carried runes, though, I guess 02:52:42 !lm * time>20100801 type=rune s=name 02:52:43 44 milestones for * (time>20100801 type=rune): 5x reid, 5x LexAckson, 4x Grimm, 3x elliptic, 3x undermind, 3x Jaeger, 3x beuhler, 3x 78291, 2x pointless, 2x nmf, 2x Mong, 2x orbekk, 1x Surr, 1x JLD, 1x Napkin, 1x Eifeltrampel, 1x nht, 1x Brysos, 1x doy 02:52:57 !lm LexAckson 02:52:57 1831. [2010-08-01] LexAckson the Farming Archmage (L27 DESt) escaped from the Abyss! 02:53:40 !lm * char=ghfe time>20100801 max=xl 02:53:41 117. [2010-08-01] bmoore the Conjurer (L14 GhFE) killed Gastronok on turn 22220. (Lair:8) 02:53:53 !whereis bmoore 02:53:53 bmoore the Conjurer (L14 GhFE), a worshipper of Sif Muna, last saved on Lair:1 on 2010-08-01 after 22447 turns. 02:54:35 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 02:54:39 * jld 's rune there isn't part of the tournament, because the game started too early. 02:54:57 jld! 02:55:00 hi. 02:55:15 (And I was supposed to die in time for the tournament, but the RNG did not oblige.) 02:55:19 seems no-one's going for full rune properly yet 02:55:25 by: wonyet? 02:55:36 !gamesby . start>20100801 02:55:37 by (start>20100801) has played 1 game, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 0, high score 5912, total score 5912, total turns 20342, total time 1:38:04. 02:55:41 !lg . 02:55:41 2014. rob the Arsonist (L10 GhFE), worshipper of Makhleb, rotted away on D:10 on 2010-08-01, with 5912 points after 20342 turns and 1:38:04. 02:55:47 :( 02:55:58 :( 02:56:09 GhFE is pretty slick. 02:56:11 I tend to mess up once the game gets easy 02:56:35 should team up with someone who has trouble with early game 02:58:01 hah, I just have trouble. 02:58:06 !lg when=t 02:58:06 18. bookofjude the Ruffian (L9 TrMo), worshipper of Elyvilon, slain by a black mamba on Lair:1 on 2010-08-01, with 3705 points after 8957 turns and 0:28:33. 02:58:11 !hs when=t 02:58:12 18. bookofjude the Ruffian (L9 TrMo), worshipper of Elyvilon, slain by a black mamba on Lair:1 on 2010-08-01, with 3705 points after 8957 turns and 0:28:33. 02:58:17 Hm, surprise by that. 03:08:34 Person the Brawler (L14 TrBe), worshipper of Trog, forgot to breathe caused by unknown source in a Labyrinth, with 57731 points after 24364 turns and 3:08:09. 03:08:38 looks like another bug... 03:08:56 not really a bug, but fixed in master 03:10:38 TrHe is so fun. 03:15:47 hmm, what does it say about balance that all three of the wins so far are the same combo? 03:16:50 !won * when=t 03:16:50 * (when=t) has won 3 times in 1008 games (0.30%): 3xSpEn 03:19:17 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:20:04 ais523: not so much, since speed run balance isn't really aimed for; that said Sp probably are broken 03:21:06 I notice jaeger's player page has a list of uniques left, but most others don't 03:21:19 is that intentional because he's killed a lot of uniques? 03:21:28 yes 03:21:39 has anyone speed-run a TrHe. 03:21:41 *? 03:32:04 hmm, something seems broken with streak scoring 03:32:30 in that if you're good at only two combos (say SpEn and MfCr), you can do one then the other for 100 points, then break your streak and start it all over again 03:32:37 and get more points that way than you would by continuing your streak 03:35:25 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 03:47:41 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 03:55:25 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 03:56:57 bug, I think: I picked up a lemon in my last game, but it's still shown as needed on my player page 03:57:32 ais523: possibly the scripts have not been updated 03:59:14 Goooood morning! 03:59:27 hi Keskitalo! 03:59:29 we'rewaaay down the list 04:00:16 Good morning :) 04:00:35 hi Napkin :) 04:00:54 heey Napkin! Hey, to play on CDO, I just need an account that's the same name as the CAO account, right? 04:01:00 moin due! how was your luck tonight? :) 04:01:23 yes, Eino :) And if you are in a Clan, you can do that config only on CAO 04:01:27 due: You and Rob been playing already I see! I'll start some games now.. 04:01:30 Napkin: All right, thanks! 04:01:36 But still play on CDO just fine 04:02:35 Napkin: Urgh.. looks like there is "Keskitalo" already on CDO, I just have no clue about the password. 04:03:43 ok, let me find my knowledge about sqlite again ;) 04:05:23 .tables 04:05:26 .schema ? 04:07:29 when in doubt "strings prod.db" works, too ;) 04:08:33 ah, dgamelaunch is so mean, it uses the first two letters of the password as salt 04:08:50 quite effective when helping players remember their password though ;) 04:11:35 how is cao's load today? 04:11:56 tonight it was quite harsh! went to bed when it had a load of 22 :-O 04:16:08 but.. no wonder with 125 being logged it... as a sidenote: cdo was practically idle at that time - so anyone who can should play there. 04:17:42 is there any way to get a list of gods I've taken? for the Ely banner? 04:19:24 !lm ais523 when=t type=god.worship s=noun 04:19:24 17 milestones for ais523 (when=t type=god.worship): 4x Elyvilon, 1x Xom, 1x The Shining One, 1x Cheibriados, 1x Kikubaaqudgha, 1x Makhleb, 1x Vehumet, 1x Okawaru, 1x Zin, 1x Jiyva, 1x Trog, 1x Fedhas, 1x Nemelex Xobeh, 1x Yredelemnul 04:19:39 yep, just realised I could use Sequell 04:19:45 it would be nice to have that on the player page, though 04:21:22 looks like I'm just missing Sif, Lugonu, and Beogh 04:21:46 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:13 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:28 -!- purge_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:20:22 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:26 yay qemu... 8 hours on a big fat machine, and my armel debian package build (2 * -O2) still didn't finish 05:23:29 (all my more reasonable build setups currently have a mix of packages from different sources) 05:23:35 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 05:26:20 it takes you 8 hours to compile crawl? 05:27:07 are you compile it on your cell phone or something? 05:37:12 no 05:37:16 I think kilo was compiling qemu. 05:45:24 mspang: on the cell phone, it's an hour if I run it at 600Mhz, it can be overclocked to >1Ghz, I didn't test more 05:46:36 too bad, most of the time is wasted swapping, with just 256MB most of which is taken by the phone stuff, it's not about the CPU 05:48:51 solutions include scratchbox and distcc, I just wanted the packages to be certain to be identical to pure armel stuff with lenny's libraries 05:50:28 scratchbox makes it hard to control the environment, distcc may have issues due to the C++ ABI change between gcc 4.3 and 4.4 -- IIRC Debian packages were forced to the 4.4 ABI in unstable/squeeze 05:50:32 kilobyte: what platform of telephone? 05:50:43 due: N900 (maemo) 05:50:47 ahhh 05:51:11 have you had any luck with sdl1.3, kilobyte? 05:52:02 Napkin: no, but I found sdl1.2-gles 05:52:10 oh, nice :) 05:52:23 i haven't tried compiling anything for my phone yet, but i've got the android ndk build envirronment running. 05:52:27 more than willing to test any result :) 05:52:38 too bad, it compiles, starts but fails when it tries to load a texture. And fixing that would require a modicum of clue about GL. 05:52:56 Android uses GLES too, as far as I know. 05:52:58 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 05:53:00 and so does iPhone 05:53:04 yeah 05:53:09 have you spoken to wossname 05:53:12 the pperson doing the ipad port? 05:53:56 no -- and the scraps committed to the repository suggest that he goes a non-GL way 05:54:07 ahh 05:54:13 bummer 05:54:16 which is probably saner, we're a 2D game after all 05:54:55 I'm sure felirx is itching to write us some shader effects though ;) 05:55:41 how is 2d done on the mobile platforms? isn't it terribly slow? 05:57:17 I fail to see how it could be not fast enough, at least on high-end platforms 05:57:34 it is far less work than 3D, after all 05:59:45 compare this to, say, playing a movie. There, you have to run complex calculations for every pixel, then dump the results into the display memory. Tile-based 2D does strictly less work, as calculations are replaced by just copying static pixels from the tile. 06:00:02 it's a mindless memory -> display memory copy 06:00:25 and that was hardware accelerated in early 1990 graphics cards already 06:04:34 isn't that how it used to be done before the switch to sdl? 06:06:55 it was, but in some terribly inefficient way 06:08:24 if early 1990s games could do animated tiles on processors three orders of magnitude slower, not being able to do that on a just ~4x the screen area means something is terribly wrong 06:15:02 there's something weird... 3 players whose logs I've read in a row, all three had the captain's cutlass (at least in the inventory) 06:15:21 as if the generation of unrand sabres was somehow biased 06:21:34 also, morg has been showing up in a surprising number of games recently 06:21:51 I had the captain's cutlass in a store in my game, didn't buy it 06:21:59 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:22:37 well, it may be a kick-ass short blade, but it's still just a short blade 06:22:56 and I wonder why no one uses Vampire's Tooth, now that vampiric stuff is >>> speed 06:24:01 Because they suck. 06:24:09 Someone had it in a shop and insisted that it was shit. i could not dissaude them. 06:26:28 kilobyte: how was vamp buffed 06:39:53 I think the Elyvilon banner may be broken; it's not showing up on my page, even though !lm says I've definitely earnt it 06:39:58 and the last game involved has shown up on the page 06:46:54 Napkin, no! :( 06:47:05 ais523: Which one's Ely? 06:47:13 * due checks. 06:47:15 all 17 gods converted to 06:47:29 !lm ais523 when=t type=god.worship s=noun 06:47:29 20 milestones for ais523 (when=t type=god.worship): 4x Elyvilon, 1x Xom, 1x The Shining One, 1x Sif Muna, 1x Beogh, 1x Cheibriados, 1x Kikubaaqudgha, 1x Makhleb, 1x Lugonu, 1x Vehumet, 1x Okawaru, 1x Zin, 1x Jiyva, 1x Trog, 1x Fedhas, 1x Nemelex Xobeh, 1x Yredelemnul 06:47:33 Isn't it mollify every god? 06:47:37 that's Xom 06:47:44 both exist 06:47:48 Ah. 06:47:55 noooo! :D 06:48:01 What god did you start with? 06:48:07 !whereis ais523 06:48:10 Napkin: Aw! 06:48:11 most of the games started atheist 06:48:12 damn, hit me so good in one turn.. 120 -> 27 hp 06:48:15 and they don't all have to be in the same game... 06:48:37 well, time to participate in the tourney now :) 06:48:39 Only the atheist ones count. 06:48:57 Napkin: Yeah! 06:48:57 not even starting as one god and changing to another? 06:49:08 ais523 the Poker (L3 CeWr), a worshipper of Lugonu, dead in Abyss on 2010-08-01 after 1532 turns. 06:49:10 who acquires every god as not a starting god over the course of the tournament. 06:49:38 yep, so just as long as the god you changed to wasn't the god you started with, you're fine 06:49:53 Hm. Double check with darshan ): 06:49:56 * due sleeps. 06:51:36 hmm, darshan isn't here 06:51:39 Napkin: are the rc files on CDO linked to from www? 06:52:14 like that's the case on CAO 06:52:15 !rc 06:52:20 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/KiloByte.crawlrc 06:52:48 !lm ais523 when=t type=god.worship s=noun cv=0.7 06:52:48 20 milestones for ais523 (when=t type=god.worship cv=0.7): 4x Elyvilon, 1x Xom, 1x The Shining One, 1x Sif Muna, 1x Beogh, 1x Cheibriados, 1x Kikubaaqudgha, 1x Makhleb, 1x Lugonu, 1x Vehumet, 1x Okawaru, 1x Zin, 1x Jiyva, 1x Trog, 1x Fedhas, 1x Nemelex Xobeh, 1x Yredelemnul 06:52:56 just verifying that I'd picked the right version :) 06:54:24 !tell greensnark what about adding a new shorthand to Henzell: "t" for "when=t cv=0.7"? People tend to forget about the cv part. 06:54:26 kilobyte: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 06:55:03 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 06:55:41 Napkin: found it, /configs/ 06:56:38 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:57:15 !learn add rc Accessible via www: CAO: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/$name.crawlrc CDO: http://crawl.develz.org/{ancient,old,stable,trunk}/$name.rc 06:57:18 rc[3/3]: Accessible via www: CAO: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/$name.crawlrc CDO: http://crawl.develz.org/{ancient,old,stable,trunk}/$name.rc 07:11:24 I got four duplicate lab messages in a row 07:11:28 when I entered lab LOS 07:11:33 err 5 07:12:11 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:15:01 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:27 syllogism: in 0.7? fixed this in master, but I thought the bug was due to luca's patches 07:16:35 0.7 07:17:36 !tell greensnark The Elyvilon banner (convert to every god) seems to be broken, in that I'm pretty sure I've met the requirements (!lm ais523 when=t type=god.worship s=noun cv=0.7 gives 17 gods) yet it doesn't show up on the tourney page 07:17:48 ais523: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 07:18:09 syllogism: what message was this exactly? maybe it's a different issue after all 07:18:30 -!- GrimmSweeper has joined ##crawl-dev 07:18:44 http://crawl.develz.org/saves/dumps/syllogism-0611d64-100801-1212.tar.bz2 07:31:39 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:43:56 !tell ais523 Sorry, the Pantheon banner wording was wrong. Gods are checked only at end of game for the Pantheon banner. Rules page fixed now. 07:43:57 greensnark: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:43:57 greensnark: OK, I'll let ais523 know. 07:45:32 Looks like Pantheon wording was broken since 2008 :P 07:45:34 what mantis access level does downloading dumped saves require? 07:47:30 hopefully updater+ 07:48:34 I'm not sure it's a Mantis thing at all 07:48:51 I think Napkin has a list of developers who have save download permissions 07:49:12 maybe i'm on it then 07:49:18 Possible! 07:50:16 Looks like reid beat Grimm to second win by 2 mins 07:50:58 !gamesby * t 07:50:58 * (t) has played 1298 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 5 (0.4%), high score 14153666, total score 25045540, total turns 4360039, total time 312:36:58. 07:51:01 obviously too late to change the rules, but the earliest rune should be turn count or duration based and not XL 07:51:11 Yes 07:51:30 it's only 50 points though 07:51:53 It also disallows the Jiyva rune, so it's not a big deal 07:52:14 yes 07:52:57 elliptic could probably have played a second game and got second win :P 07:53:28 !gamesby @78291 t 07:53:29 78291 (t) has played 6 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 0, high score 25121, total score 28310, total turns 51540, total time 2:38:12. 07:53:36 !whereis 78291 07:53:53 78291 the Bewitcher (L12 SpEn), a worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, last saved on Lair:3 on 2010-08-01 after 11006 turns. 07:59:51 greensnark: ghoul hunger seems to be working nicely 08:00:10 by: So you were testing it in that death? :P 08:00:32 no, game got easy and I got tired :( 08:00:44 Ah 08:01:04 but if I stop playing when I get bored I won't get a single win 08:05:41 @whereis greensnark 08:05:42 greensnark the Covered (L1 HuFi) quit on D:1 on 2010-07-24 after 0 turns. 08:05:49 try a GhFE, it's fun 08:05:56 I will 08:06:17 Right after I finish this design spec I have to submit tomorrow :) 08:16:38 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:17:09 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 08:28:28 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:37:13 -!- Moriasc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 08:39:11 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:39:24 -!- Moriasc_ is now known as Moriasc 08:52:28 all mantis >= devs can download saves, greensnark 09:03:18 Napkin: Ah, ok 09:04:38 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:56 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:09:37 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:45 Cheers! 09:09:45 dpeg: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 09:10:56 !messages 09:10:57 (1/2) greensnark said (6d 7h 31m 44s ago): Nobody reads rgra :P 09:11:01 !messages 09:11:01 (1/1) Keskitalo said (5d 18h 15m 10s ago): Haran is not going to play, right? :) Lets add Mu! 09:11:10 Heyy dpeg 09:11:11 !seen Keskitalo 09:11:11 I last saw Keskitalo at Sun Aug 1 11:49:08 2010 UTC (2h 22m 3s ago) saying Napkin: Yeah! on ##crawl-dev. 09:11:17 greensnark: I read rgra! 09:11:18 Daily!! 09:11:19 What about those six wins in the first week you promised us! 09:11:21 Twice!!! 09:11:34 greensnark: hey, that was one win in the first six weeks! 09:11:39 Oh :P 09:12:00 just back from holidays (literally, ten minutes in) 09:12:07 now tournament work starts 09:12:26 team singularity relies on you 09:12:35 Yes, the captain should lead from the front with many wins! 09:12:39 Inspire the rest of us :) 09:12:50 The captain should guide from the rear! 09:12:50 starting with ghfe 09:12:56 Hey, GhFE is good :P 09:12:59 I never played a serious Gh :P 09:13:02 unfortunately 09:13:06 it is; I should have won my first GhFE 09:13:10 should handpick the combos :P 09:13:21 Nah, Nemelex should be random :) 09:13:27 !won greensnark 09:13:27 greensnark has won 17 times in 472 games (3.60%): 1xDGSt 1xDSGl 1xDrWn 1xGnWn 1xHEFE 1xHEMo 1xHOPr 1xHuHe 1xHuPa 1xKeAE 1xKeTh 1xMuPr 1xOgFi 1xOgIE 1xSEDK 1xSEVM 1xSpEn 09:13:31 I did ban the more idiotic species though 09:13:38 No Sp, HE, etc. 09:13:58 Also no DD :) 09:14:25 My last Gh win was in b26 :P 09:14:40 I have a couple of nice Gh splats in DCSS though 09:15:24 Anybody won in the tournament yet? 09:15:33 Lots! 09:15:39 78291 hasn't won yet though 09:15:51 dpeg: First three wins were all SpEn :) 09:16:01 greensnark: that's begging for a nerf 09:16:10 dpeg: Yes, they're clamouring for a nerf :) 09:16:21 make Sp speed 10 09:16:31 Hee, that'd do it :) 09:16:36 The spriggan screams in pleasure, "nerf me harder!" 09:16:48 The vacation seems to have been good for dpeg :P 09:16:58 that would also fix the people that say Che is broken for spriggan 09:17:09 Ingenious :D 09:17:26 Five wins, nice. 09:17:49 And usage jumped up, as it should. 09:19:03 Yes, we should be able to beat last year's mark of 1435 games on the first day 09:19:12 We already have 1294 games 09:19:16 syllogism: I successfully used ?immo just then! 09:19:16 !gamesby * t 09:19:17 * (t) has played 1406 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 5 (0.4%), high score 14153666, total score 25163080, total turns 4680421, total time 336:28:51. 09:19:19 2009-08-01 1435 186 14 09:19:24 Oh, we already have 1406 games :) 09:19:27 (not that it couldn't have been played better initially) 09:19:30 t ? 09:19:36 tourney games 09:19:44 !gamesby * tourney 09:19:45 * (tourney) has played 1406 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 5 (0.4%), high score 14153666, total score 25163080, total turns 4680421, total time 336:28:51. 09:19:49 If you prefer full words :) 09:19:50 nice 09:19:56 !gamesby * tourney9 09:19:57 * (tourney9) has played 33869 games, between 20090801 and 20090831, won 286 (0.8%), high score 28587140, total score 967504197, total turns 189192985, total time 15257:08:45. 09:20:05 !gamesby * tourney8 09:20:07 * (tourney8) has played 15499 games, between 20080801 and 20080831, won 169 (1.1%), high score 12813270, total score 479187431, total turns 94059630, total time 10654:23:20. 09:20:22 <3 total time 09:21:27 There is a team "Quadratic Reciprocity" -- how cool is that? 09:21:28 I should make the usage stats graphs wider 09:21:38 dpeg: Yeah, we should change our team name to something awesome 09:21:39 greensnark: that'd be cool, yes 09:21:49 greensnark: Singularity was your proposal :) 09:22:04 Team Perkele! 09:22:07 dpeg: Yeah, but that was 2008, we should change the name this year :P 09:22:45 !gamesby team_singularity when=t 09:22:46 team_singularity (when=t) has played 2 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 0, high score 148, total score 169, total turns 2533, total time 0:12:18. 09:22:57 Don't try for Heizölrückstoßabdämpfung though, the script doesn't like non-ASCII names :P 09:22:59 !nick team_singularity 09:23:00 Mapping team_singularity = dpeg Keskitalo Tityrus haranp tsnark 09:23:00 Mapping team_singularity = dpeg Keskitalo Tityrus haranp tsnark 09:23:07 total score 169, I think I can help here 09:23:11 dpeg: Will Haran play this year? 09:23:24 greensnark: won't think so 09:23:29 what team did Mu_ end up on now? 09:23:31 I'll add Neil to the clan. 09:23:36 !rc itsmu 09:23:36 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/itsmu.crawlrc 09:23:57 Mu already has dpeg set as captain 09:23:58 by: I got a mail where he asks for Singularity. 09:24:00 Oh, I want a new name 09:24:05 No more Singularity 09:24:16 Let's choose something cool involving math :) 09:24:21 or not math 09:24:26 Well, if you prefer :P 09:24:45 "+" 09:24:52 "Non-Irrational Numbers" 09:24:59 The "Non" makes it non-math :P 09:25:01 1 09:25:13 Ok, dpeg gets to pick the name 09:25:35 minmay_sewer_w is racking up the body count 09:25:37 just replaced Haran by Neil 09:25:44 and team name? 09:26:03 oh hey :) 09:26:08 Mu_: :) 09:26:44 ??design philosophy 09:26:44 design philosophy[1/1]: Kill them all! 09:26:47 dpeg: ^^ 09:27:52 Didn't we fix that bug where reflected missiles trigger god conducts? 09:27:56 *reflected beams 09:28:10 Perkele is a really good term 09:28:19 Gotta ask Eino about it first, of course. 09:28:33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_profanity 09:29:12 Eino has been in hiding since the start of the tournament 09:29:26 Apparently he was partying hard just before it started, he's probably still unconscious :P 09:30:26 He has been assigning some bug to himself recently. 09:30:55 kilobyte: you said tiles code was broken in your last commit; does it crash or it's something internal? 09:31:56 ortoslon: master is pretty buggy in many ways atm 09:32:01 Check out Mantis 09:32:09 k 09:32:17 Checking Mantis is a lot easier than asking here, in general :P 09:32:43 getting information via checking mantis is easier than getting information by asking here 09:32:58 It's pretty easy to ask questions at the channel 09:33:04 Well, yes 09:34:01 being a non-dev, i usually want to know the general state before specifics 09:36:29 ortoslon: Don't let the general state stop you from filing specific bugs :P 09:37:14 kilobyte: Apparently the Win98 crashes are reproducible by running Crawl in Win98 compatibility mode on XP :) 09:37:56 I wonder just what Gigalith's pressing reasons to use Win98 are 09:39:01 pointless_: There's a team called "Contribution to the Environment" :P 09:39:12 :) 09:39:24 Someone knows the place of adventurers in the dungeon ecosystem 09:39:26 We should have a best team name award for next year 09:41:41 Napkin: Hetzner is only charging me 41 euro per month <3 09:42:04 I have the impression that ranged combat does too much damage compared to melee 09:42:10 by: Yes 09:42:17 That's been the case since 0.1, actually 09:42:23 And the new brands have just worsened the scene 09:43:24 The missile code is dreadful, completely different paths for player and monsters, absurd to-hit for monsters, etc. 09:43:26 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 09:43:33 We planned to rip off 4.1's missile code, but never got to it 09:45:16 early melee char usually does more damage with a javelin that with their preferred weapon 09:45:32 my ogre that's well-trained in maces does better when dropping large rocks on monsters' feet 09:46:04 Well, I'd expect javelins and large rocks to do lots of damage, but even bow+arrows can outdamage good melee weapons 09:46:11 At least back when I checked the numbers in 0.1 :) 09:46:17 And missiles have only gotten stronger since 09:46:21 also you could replace an enchanted crossbow with +6 steel bolts with assault rifles and noone would notice 09:47:00 I think the problem with 0.1 missiles was fast attacks with incredibly variable damage 09:47:06 You shoot a lot but often just nick the monster 09:47:15 And then you have to go scrounge all the missiles you used 09:47:17 == tedium 09:47:35 besides balancing damage over all, it might help to severly reduce accuracy at low range 09:47:56 (that's kind of badly expressed) 09:48:03 Close range, you mean? 09:48:09 yes 09:48:20 damage should be adapted in general 09:48:49 but also, do something to make ranged combat less attractive at melee range, mayb 09:49:12 though taking melee damage may be discouragement enough, I don't know 09:49:27 I'd like a missile overhaul, but a ranged overhaul is a full major release task by someone with large amounts of time to spend on it :) 09:50:01 crawl overhaul! 09:50:07 And there'll probably be another couple of major releases spent mopping up the loose ends 09:50:10 team overhaul 09:50:26 allies with Team Nerf? 09:50:53 did dpeg pick a name yet? 09:51:01 team nerfhammer might work 09:51:21 He wants to pick a nice Finnish swearword :P 09:51:22 "Crazy Yiuf's Nerf Hammers" 09:51:49 going to see if I can get our team name changed to ogres_against_slime_walls 09:52:06 :P 09:52:30 "Team Ogre 0.4" 09:52:59 !learn add bad_idea make the Tomb card create slimy walls at low Evo/piety 09:52:59 bad idea[2/2]: make the Tomb card create slimy walls at low Evo/piety 09:53:03 oops 09:53:09 Heh 09:53:16 That is a great idea 09:53:25 indeed 09:53:31 !learn add bad_ideas make the Tomb card create slimy walls at low Evo/piety 09:53:32 bad ideas[2203/2203]: make the Tomb card create slimy walls at low Evo/piety 09:53:53 does tomb do translucent walls sometimes? 09:56:46 !learn del bad_idea[2] 09:56:47 Deleted bad idea[2/2]: make the Tomb card create slimy walls at low Evo/piety 09:56:54 by, greensnark: could you jot down your thoughts on RC somewhere? 09:57:01 Will be useful for longterm planning. 09:57:28 Wilco 09:57:48 ? 09:57:58 Will do :) 09:58:28 ah, unknown jargon :) 09:58:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_procedure#Words_in_voice_procedure 09:58:47 and i'll try to jot down suggestions on Tomb (it's one of the most reliable cards now) 09:58:53 I'm serious about slime walls by the way, I still find them very annoying 09:59:01 I studied for a Ham operator's license when i was 15-ish :) 09:59:13 Didn't actually take it though, no money to buy gear :P 09:59:27 pointless_: would you throw them out completelty, or just modify things (like the layout)? 09:59:34 modify layout 10:00:03 They don't bother me on slime:6 for example since they aren't breaking connectivity everywhere 10:00:16 pointless_: yes, I agree with that 10:00:26 Slime should get its own layout generator 10:00:42 preferring bubbles with wide tunnels between them 10:03:01 do slimy walls damage non-resistant (e.g. summoned) monsters? 10:03:13 yes 10:03:24 Which is good 10:03:37 are such monsters smart enough to move away from them? 10:04:10 Don't think so 10:04:22 by: Can monsters avoid slimy wall damage? 10:04:26 By moving away, I mean 10:04:57 Monster movement code is probably the worst code remaining in DCSS :) 10:05:51 greensnark: hey, what about that monster ranged combat code? :) 10:06:01 That's pretty bad too 10:06:05 But monster movement is hideous 10:06:09 no they don't move away 10:07:07 Wow, clouded had -15 Int? 10:07:25 In that FooTV thing, I mean 10:07:27 Special banners! 10:07:35 "Stupidest player" 10:11:20 um... stupidest player don't participate in tourneys 10:11:33 doesn't 10:15:05 !lg n78291 10:15:05 6574. 78291 the Charm-Maker (L2 SpEn), succumbed to a kobold's poison on D:1 on 2010-08-01, with 39 points after 582 turns and 0:01:12. 10:15:08 'twas a joke 10:15:09 !lg n78291 xl>10 10:15:09 1133. 78291 the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, blasted by a shadow dragon (bolt of negative energy) on D:19 on 2010-08-01, with 51138 points after 18125 turns and 1:12:36. 10:17:01 78291 doesn't seem to be having a great start-of-tourney this year 10:17:31 !whereis 78291 10:17:31 78291 the Charm-Maker (L6 SpEn) is currently on D:5 after 3338 turns. 10:18:29 greensnark: perhaps he is going for first full-runer or something? 10:18:41 First 15-rune is already done 10:18:53 he is going for the fastest win 10:19:11 thanks 10:19:25 Well, elliptic can probably try to take that back :) 10:19:49 there's also by :) 10:19:58 by said he's taking it easy this year :) 10:20:24 You'll need to crack the whip a bit to make him do the speedruns :) 10:20:50 !coffee 10:20:53 !lm n78291 10:20:53 42187. [2010-08-01] 78291 the Charm-Maker (L7 SpEn) became a worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh on turn 4040. (Temple) 10:20:54 * Henzell hands greensnark a cup of irish coffee, brewed by Sigmund. 10:21:21 taking kiku, I'd have guessed fast all-rune game 10:21:29 by: You going to be doing fastest win runs? :) 10:21:30 i really like all ideas in https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:item:weapon_reform , can't wait for them to be implemented 10:21:48 greensnark: unlikely 10:21:51 :( 10:24:45 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:19 by: should Luca get commit rights? 10:26:56 hihi @Hetzner, greensnark :) 10:27:25 Luca is gone 10:27:46 or did you have contact? 10:27:58 he's certainly competent 10:29:58 by: gone? 10:30:16 I am just going through my 400 DCSS mails and found so many "by Luca" in there. 10:33:31 !seen Luca__ 10:33:33 I last saw Luca__ at Tue Jun 29 08:42:45 2010 UTC (4w 5d 6h 50m 48s ago) parting ##crawl-dev with message chanpart. 10:34:13 by: generally, they come back 10:34:13 those patches are from june -- my guess is it didn't go fast enough for him 10:34:55 ah :/ 10:35:13 he'll be back anyway 10:36:35 ugh. where on the wiki do i write the tomb card suggestion to use different wall types at low piety? 10:37:52 dcss:brainstorm:cards ? 10:38:04 yes 10:38:12 thanks 10:38:14 ortoslon: it's a good idea, btw, I like it 10:38:31 badidea: chance of slime walls for tomb 10:38:56 now that i think about it, why would any card be totally reliable? 10:39:53 ortoslon: it doesn't really matter so much if every card has a 1% chance of going wrong or each effect has that chance. 10:40:38 with stacked decks, it does? 10:41:04 yes, a bit 10:41:22 I think it's okay to do it on a card by card basis: 10:41:34 !learn add bad_ideas Shuffle card shuffles a random stacked deck in addition to current effect 10:41:35 bad ideas[2204/2204]: Shuffle card shuffles a random stacked deck in addition to current effect 10:41:39 the tomb card is very powerful, so adding randomness and variants there is good 10:42:22 it could also get an alternate zin-like tomb other effect for less reliable but still useful 10:42:26 it seems i don't have permissions to create https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:cards 10:43:01 by: indeed 10:43:43 ortoslon: go ahead 10:44:12 i meant mantis permissions :P 10:44:23 er, dokuwiki 10:45:08 ortoslon: try again 10:45:18 I just created the page. 10:47:17 Nabend dpeg! 10:47:25 Du online an einem Sonntag? :D 10:48:19 !lm * crash 10:48:20 95. [2010-07-29] scrubnub the Thaumaturge (L16 NaWz) ASSERT(map bounds(pos)) in 'spells3.cc' at line 1925 failed on turn 36971. (D:16) 10:48:22 !lm * crash sprint 10:48:23 9. [2010-07-24] snoopy the Conjurer (L9 DEWz) ASSERT(thrown.defined()) in 'item use.cc' at line 2283 failed on turn 2491. (Sprint) 10:48:56 dpeg: nope, still can't see it 10:50:51 try again, ortoslon 10:52:10 success 10:53:09 if you feel you will create pages more often, just do a mantis ticket on the "wiki" project 10:53:29 it's mainly just so we can keep track of permissions 10:56:07 Napkin: gerade ausm Urlaub zurück 10:56:22 Ah :) Gut erholt? 10:57:03 Jawohl! 10:57:09 Sauber :D 10:57:17 Turnier brummt, Server sauber? 10:57:28 Mine is planned for August 7th \o/ 10:57:44 Yeah, CAO had more than 60 players last night :D 11:03:37 ugh, it's impossible to track down ballistomycetes with a halo 11:06:14 by: you simply don't see them? 11:06:23 I always thought we need to have "layers". 11:06:49 E.g. floor = layer 0, blood = 5, halo = 10, ballisto = 15; show the colour of top layer 11:09:46 We have some more: sanctuary, explicitly recoloured floor 11:10:03 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:10:05 don't think it's necessary to force them into a linear order 11:11:18 by: well, we want some order of dominance, as we can only show one layer (in console -- tiles is better off) 11:11:39 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:50 yes, but a chain of if bloody then else if ... is fine I think 11:35:43 !rc 11:35:44 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rcfiles/greensnark.crawlrc 11:46:38 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:58:45 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 12:10:47 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:19:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:11 !aplayers 12:21:30 48 active, <=80x24 players: casmith789 (L27 MfIE @ Abyss, T:132778), Hybrid (L27 DSVM @ Zot:3, T:463759), nmf (L26 SpEn @ Zot:1, T:101383), jrs83b (L25 SpWz @ Lair:2, T:196244), Brysos (L23 MDCK @ D:22, T:75335), itsmu (L23 GhFE @ D:22, T:77469), orbekk (L22 SpEn @ D:21, T:105903), Morri (L16 SpEn @ Shoals:1, T:35978), DickNixon (L15 HEAM @ Swamp:1, T:60494), daftfad (L14 GhFE @ Orc:2, T:46945), P... 12:23:43 !gamesby * t 12:23:44 * (t) has played 1768 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 5 (0.3%), high score 14153666, total score 25692936, total turns 5569774, total time 411:59:12. 12:28:31 -!- bhaak has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:30:04 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 12:31:13 Apparently I have forgotten how to play :P 12:31:14 !gamesby . t 12:31:15 greensnark (t) has played 4 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 0, high score 429, total score 622, total turns 7121, total time 0:45:07. 12:31:58 greensnark: is there some guide to !gamesby etc.? 12:32:13 Not yet 12:41:33 !lg greensnark t s=xl 12:41:34 4 games for greensnark (t): 2x 2, 1x 1, 1x 6 12:41:39 !lg greensnark t s=char 12:41:40 4 games for greensnark (t): 4x GhFE 12:41:49 !lg . t char=ghfe s=xl 12:41:50 12 games for by (t char=ghfe): 6x 1, 2x 5, 2x 2, 1x 8, 1x 10 12:41:56 Just too careless 12:42:02 greensnark: you're better than me at GhFE so far 12:42:03 It's been a long time since I played :P 12:42:11 I keep leaning on keys :( 12:42:14 greensnark: was it fun? 12:42:27 that I don't do, careless yes very 12:42:33 Crawl early game is usually fun unless it's one of the overly easy characters 12:42:41 GhFE is fun, yes 12:43:07 actually GhFE does quite well at keeping the pressure up through the rotting 12:43:23 when opposition gets harder, resting up can be quite problematic 12:44:03 Well, that's why Gh have chunks to heal with :) 12:44:28 Need to maintain your SRCR (Strategic Rotting Chunk Reserve) carefully :) 12:44:34 !lg * ghfe when=t max=sc 12:44:35 127. NyaaKitty the Ticktocktomancer (L14 GhFE), worshipper of Cheibriados, blown up by Sastopher's ghost on D:12 on 2010-08-01, with 60539 points after 39117 turns and 1:58:58. 12:44:46 I think Mu had a good GhFE going 12:44:52 !whereis itsmu 12:45:17 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:45:49 itsmu the Thaumaturge (L24 GhFE), a worshipper of Makhleb, is currently on D:26 after 81860 turns. 12:47:32 Slings are OP :P 12:47:45 Not that I'm complaining given how sloppily I'm playing :P 12:53:38 For some reason I've been carrying a ring of hunger around for a few thousand turns 13:03:58 only 1 aum and might soak up a mummy curse?? idk :p 13:12:34 oh zipcode is doing an all-runer after all 13:15:46 One of these years I'll get sticky flame castable and then these ogres had better watch out :P 13:16:21 it's perfectly castable right now :P 13:16:31 Yeah, if I want to blow my head off :P 13:18:53 Easy arson in three steps: (1) stay calm, (2) ignite fuse, (3) get away, preferably without running 13:19:42 Hey, I found the book of Tukima :P 13:19:53 Too bad I can't use books as doorstops in Crawl :P 13:20:05 What's the word for that thing they use to wedge doors shut? 13:20:36 wedge? :P 13:20:44 Oh, is that the right word? :P 13:25:09 Who does not use the word doorstopper? 13:25:36 Eifel's ghost chased me out of an Ossuary :( 13:25:47 Why did it have to camp the stairs 13:27:26 I tried to use tukima in tomb the other day. A hasted battleaxe of flaming can't handle more than one guardian mummy at a time, it's pretty pathetic 13:27:57 Yeah, I think it's too weak when used by the player 13:28:10 The new-style blades in the Hall of Blades are pretty hawt though 13:28:26 As in: STAY AWAY YOU MAD FOOL! :) 13:28:51 I need an RSS feed to check the success rate of Sticky Flame :P 13:29:00 !lg . place=blade 13:29:01 1. clouded the Thanatomancer (L25 DDNe), worshipper of Sif Muna, mangled by a glowing battleaxe of freezing in Blade on 2010-01-15, with 424086 points after 128668 turns and 9:40:18. 13:29:10 Hey, Sticky Flame went to "Good" \o/ 13:29:40 My MuPr couldn't take out even one mace with mystic blast 13:29:47 From full MP :P 13:30:10 I also got Tukima's wizlab and only just got out of there :P 13:30:33 Wimp! :) 13:45:26 let "Warding prevent rotting instead of giving RNeg (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2165) by Lemuel 13:45:48 Lemuel has good ideas. 13:47:49 Is he playing GhFE or something :P 13:48:26 Also, gourmand amulet <3 13:57:48 Damn, I want to watch 78291 getting runes :P 14:00:38 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 14:06:14 This 78291 run is awesome viewing <3 14:08:31 78291 is glowing pretty freely ;P 14:09:01 Damn Helix :( 14:09:28 -!- Xiberia has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:17:20 javelineers are pretty accurate even when the target is invisible :P 14:17:41 Is this a problem? :P 14:17:45 if you are in water they know where you are 14:17:57 as I learned last night 14:18:32 !lg * 0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals s=br 14:18:32 61 games for * (0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals): 28x Shoals, 19x Swamp, 14x Snake 14:18:51 Damn, Shoals is no longer >= Snake + Swamp :'( 14:19:10 !lg * 0.7 place=snake|swamphoals s=br char!=spen 14:19:10 14 games for * (0.7 place=snake|swamphoals char!=spen): 14x Snake 14:19:14 78921's run is amazing fun to watch 14:19:15 !lg * 0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals s=br char!=spen 14:19:16 52 games for * (0.7 place=snake|swamp|shoals char!=spen): 23x Shoals, 15x Swamp, 14x Snake 14:20:25 doesn't look overly promising 14:20:32 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_by_perkele 14:20:39 oh he has borgnjor 14:20:41 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 14:20:50 Yes 14:20:57 he lost like 20 hp :P 14:21:07 Borgnjor is somewhat decent :P 14:21:11 dpeg: Would "Development by perkele" underline the "devteam team" aspect too much? 14:21:43 dpeg: re link a little further up ^ 14:21:49 hey we're 6th now :P 14:21:52 greensnark: I wasn't partying, I was working. :P At a party. 14:22:03 YeahÂ! \/ 14:22:03 Keskitalo: Right :P 14:22:44 !lm @78291 rstart=20100701150615S s=rune 14:22:49 13 milestones for 78291 (rstart=20100701150615S): 1x fiery, 1x dark, 1x magical, 1x glowing, 1x silver, 1x bone, 1x barnacled, 1x serpentine, 1x demonic, 1x icy, 1x golden, 1x obsidian, 1x iron 14:22:55 Someone is hogging Sequell on PM :P 14:23:10 I've no idea what you are talking about :P 14:23:24 Oh, it was you? :P 14:23:47 Keskitalo: Nerfele! 14:23:58 So 78291 is missing slimy and abyssal, 14:24:40 dpeg: Sounds feminine (which is interesting), but doesn't give a sense of connection to Perkele 14:25:09 ah, not good enough 14:25:27 dpeg: We finally have a winner in the team :) 14:26:26 This is a funny video re:perkele, at least if you are a Finn with a sense of humour: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJf0md1kG8 14:26:44 (notice I claim to have a sense of humour. also should stop gratuitious OT) 14:26:49 greensnark: we have a competent player in the devteam? 14:26:55 Let's break out the nerf hammers! 14:27:00 Who is it? 14:27:06 Mu_: You, my son? 14:27:15 Mu with Nemelex' Choice! 14:27:25 that was the worst character ever :P 14:28:15 I'm hoping it'll be the easiest of the Nemelex' Choices :P 14:28:52 I trust you'll make sure there is an ogre or two in the remaining Nemelex' choices 14:29:07 The rest are all automatic picks, no intervention from me :) 14:29:14 !won * ogpa 14:29:15 * (ogpa) has won once in 239 games (0.42%): 1xOgPa 14:29:28 if that gets chosen and I win before, does it count? 14:29:30 !lg * OgPa win 14:29:30 1. rob the Skullcrusher (L27 OgPa), worshipper of The Shining One, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2008-09-23, with 9080533 points after 183533 turns and 20:13:40. 14:30:20 Nemelex' Choices count even if already won 14:30:36 Although now that you mention it, I should make sure there's no date check left in 14:31:27 Mu_: congrats! 14:31:53 yes, congrats Mu_ 14:31:57 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:31:58 thanx 14:32:01 why did you think it was so terrible? 14:32:13 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 14:34:37 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:55 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:06 Eek, CAO load average is back to its explodin' levels: load average: 19.12, 13.65, 10.43 14:35:09 !streak Mu_ 14:35:10 itsmu has 3 consecutive wins (MDAr, HEAE, DDHe) and has won their last game (GhFE). 14:38:58 i aint good at streakin 14:39:20 try some DD 14:42:33 -!- Niccus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:59:59 a feature that might be useful would be to allow auto-annotation of levels based on monsters seen 15:00:08 similar to how it works for auto-notes 15:00:17 doy: yes 15:00:33 i do it manually all the time, seems like it's something that could be automated 15:01:16 !lm @78291 rstart=20100701150615S s=rune 15:01:16 15 milestones for 78291 (rstart=20100701150615S): 1x fiery, 1x dark, 1x magical, 1x glowing, 1x silver, 1x bone, 1x barnacled, 1x serpentine, 1x abyssal, 1x demonic, 1x slimy, 1x icy, 1x golden, 1x obsidian, 1x iron 15:01:29 !lm @78291 rstart=20100701150615S s=rune x=min(turn) 15:01:30 15 milestones for 78291 (rstart=20100701150615S): 1x fiery [28840], 1x dark [27992], 1x magical [29314], 1x glowing [27710], 1x bone [33270], 1x silver [23157], 1x barnacled [25677], 1x demonic [29714], 1x abyssal [41258], 1x serpentine [24799], 1x slimy [38593], 1x obsidian [34601], 1x icy [33667], 1x golden [36630], 1x iron [32183] 15:03:06 he'll have to get lucky on zot 5 15:03:29 also, elf really needs to stop having darkgrey floors 15:03:30 dpeg: On reflection, I think "Nerfkele" would work. 15:03:34 doy: +1 15:03:38 not being able to see los is really annoying 15:04:38 he doesn't have insulation and his only source of rf is a ring of fire 15:05:01 Yes, I noticed :) 15:05:13 who's this? 15:05:32 78291 15:05:36 oh right 15:06:05 doy: FR! 15:06:14 Keskitalo: would you send a mail to the clan? 15:06:21 doy: Just nip in and change the floor colour :) 15:06:26 what's he going for, low turncount all runes? 15:06:32 doy: Yes, top score 15:06:37 greensnark: i've got games to play! 15:06:53 he has a staff of fire too 15:07:13 I wonder if he remembers that 15:07:26 guess so :p 15:07:52 nice 15:07:59 Gogogo zippy :) 15:08:21 did he even see one orb of fire? 15:08:27 he did on zot:2 15:12:12 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:12:13 should track the vaults with the highest numbers of kills on the cao website :p 15:12:52 Nice 15:12:53 !hs * t 15:12:55 2221. 78291 the Enchanter (L23 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2010-08-01, with 33336361 points after 43553 turns and 3:53:59. 15:13:02 That will take a little beating 15:13:55 nice 15:14:05 it's a lot faster than last years top score 15:14:17 zipcode pulled another stunt? 15:14:30 His first win of the tourney :) 15:14:39 !gamesby @78291 t 15:14:40 78291 (t) has played 11 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 1 (9.1%), high score 33336361, total score 33456983, total turns 128561, total time 9:00:55. 15:18:01 !gamesby * t 15:18:02 * (t) has played 2237 games, between 20100801 and 20100801, won 9 (0.4%), high score 33336361, total score 73520203, total turns 7519020, total time 557:28:40. 15:18:18 I think it's fair to say that we've obliterated the first-day-games record of 2009 15:18:57 how many players? 15:19:06 !lg * t s=name 15:19:07 2241 games for * (t): 140x ais523, 110x Xiberia, 100x Akhier, 87x nht, 52x larasium, 50x syllogism, 49x Verily, 46x reid, 38x TGW, 35x casmith789, 34x Tenaya, 30x Ahrin, 30x Jubu, 28x KiloByte, 28x think, 27x Stossel, 26x snoopy, 26x rastarogue, 26x BlueAnna, 25x Studman, 23x NyaaKitty, 22x Grimm, 22x Fetish, 22x heteroy, 21x b0lt, 20x bookofjude, 20x Pseudonut, 20x Robsoie, 19x Oddtwang, 19x Kons... 15:19:16 That's a little harder to say from here :) 15:19:26 !lg * t x=cdist(name) 15:19:27 2241 games for * (t): cdist(name)=244 15:19:31 244 players 15:19:34 Forgot I had that :P 15:20:44 For some reason the CAO page reports 246 players though 15:20:50 Possibly different versions of the game 15:20:58 "Nothing appears to happen" when scroll of fear frightens monsters (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2166) by ekaterin 15:21:03 !lg * start>20100801 x=cdist(name) 15:21:03 2343 games for * (start>20100801): cdist(name)=256 15:21:11 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 15:21:14 !lg * !alpha start>20100801 x=cdist(name) 15:21:14 2247 games for * (!alpha start>20100801): cdist(name)=245 15:21:27 Not sure who the missing person is :P 15:21:48 !lg * t s=-name 15:21:49 2249 games for * (t): 1x DMITR, 1x Saty, 1x Elwin, 1x Graymis, 1x solitas, 1x timebandit, 1x Freykin, 1x XMasPresen, 1x Palyth, 1x Tycho, 1x henryci, 1x perf, 1x owlsmom, 1x Phantom, 1x Fungee, 1x DickNixon, 1x Splorsh, 1x Bruce, 1x sledge, 1x Izverg, 1x valrus, 1x Yurski, 1x darkcrobat, 1x McStaberso, 1x Gazp, 1x aimeelou, 1x iekko, 1x hotfix, 1x Delphic, 1x BBQ101, 1x Pushpabon, 1x weyrava, 1x b... 15:21:49 !lg * !alpha end>20100801 x=cdist(name) 15:21:49 2298 games for * (!alpha end>20100801): cdist(name)=258 15:21:59 2009/08/01 had 189 CAO players 15:22:14 Perhaps I filter quitters on CAO page stats, don't remember 15:22:29 !lg * t8 x=cdist(name) 15:22:31 15499 games for * (t8): cdist(name)=385 15:22:40 !lg * t9 x=cdist(name) 15:22:42 33869 games for * (t9): cdist(name)=737 15:23:21 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:09 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:34:13 You finish putting on the +6 robe of the Slug {+Rage rF++ Int+1}. 15:34:15 I - the spiked flail of Optimality (weapon) {pierce, rF++ rN+ Str+3 Int+4} 15:34:19 <3 Orc shops 15:36:49 what was this vault 15:37:13 demonologists, high priests, and dragons and ice dragons behind glass walls 15:37:29 I didn't do it! 15:38:11 @whereis dpeg 15:38:11 dpeg the Ogre Mage (L10 OgVM), a worshipper of Fedhas, is currently on Orc:1 after 17218 turns. 15:38:17 Yay dpeg 15:38:32 !whereis doy 15:38:41 doy the Severer (L18 DDBe), a worshipper of Trog, is currently on Elf:2 after 49855 turns. 15:39:00 doy: You didn't have to mention "glass" :P 15:39:25 It's easier to say "no glass in this vault" when you find a vault with no glass :P 15:39:28 I simply reject vaults without glass these days. 15:40:00 :) 15:40:50 can we make harpies shoals-only already? 15:41:14 Which other monsters are specific for some branch? 15:42:08 all naga, anaconda, viper(?) for snake 15:42:31 swamp dragons, swamp worms, alligators, swamp drakes for swamp 15:46:24 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 15:46:54 by: okay. So answer is yes. 15:47:35 they do serve their purpose of being annoying in D and Vaults, too 15:51:12 @?? angel 15:51:13 Angel (16A) | Speed: 15 | HD: 12 | Health: 83-119 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Damage: 25, 10 | Flags: 08holy, see invisible, fly, !sil | Res: 06magic(128), 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 2088 | Sp: minor healing. 15:53:41 -!- mruuuu has joined ##crawl-dev 15:57:22 -!- Siber2 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:59:00 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:00:09 -!- Siber has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:06:56 -!- Siber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:08:03 Mu_, greensnark, by; "Nerfkele" ok for the shiny new Clan name (and tattoo)? 16:08:40 sure 16:08:57 no idea what that means :p 16:10:10 Why not? :) 16:10:29 -!- Siber2 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:10:32 Just jab dpeg with an ankus and get him to use it 16:10:51 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 16:10:52 It's, er, a portmanteau of "nerf" and "perkele", a powerful Finnish swear word, etymologically Perkele is a Finnish thunder god, plus christians robbed the name to mean the Devil somewhere along the ride. 16:10:59 Kenku leaf elementalists are too strong. We should nerf them. 16:11:46 !tell due Ok for clan to be renamed "Nerfkele"? 16:11:50 Keskitalo: OK, I'll let due know. 16:16:30 -!- Siber2 has joined ##crawl-dev 16:19:24 -!- Siber has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:21:54 -!- Siber has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:40 -!- Siber2 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:38:28 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 16:40:39 -!- Henzell has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:42:48 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 16:48:05 -!- OG17 has quit [Quit: OG17] 16:56:29 Incorrectly asked about replacing manual on shopping list (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2167) by DickNixon 17:22:51 bug: if you remove a ring of magical power with 0 max MP, there's a weird graphical glitch on the MP bar until you redraw the screen 17:25:14 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:36 there's a bug tracker at https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view_all_bug_page.php 17:27:41 I think this may already have been reported 17:30:56 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:22 hi 18:04:23 due: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:04:26 !messages 18:04:27 (1/1) Keskitalo said (1h 52m 37s ago): Ok for clan to be renamed "Nerfkele"? 18:04:42 sure, why not? 18:07:30 -!- Moriasc has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 18:10:20 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:08 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:42:04 Removing ring with +lev cancels lev from any source (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2168) by DickNixon 18:48:59 -!- upsi has joined ##crawl-dev 18:49:32 -!- flowsnake has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:50:14 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:02:53 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 19:10:56 -!- DrPraetor has joined ##crawl-dev 19:20:09 So there's no blade-hands nerf in 0.7, I'm pleased to see. Looking on the wiki, what is the consensus for 0.8? 19:29:16 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:48:12 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 20:09:26 doy: Gonna win? :) 20:09:32 hopefully! 20:15:52 -!- ogaz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:16:30 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 20:25:14 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 20:33:40 i'm just so slow 20:33:52 I'm too fast and die lots. 20:49:21 I finally won all-runes as a MfTm! 20:50:30 Hooray! 20:51:20 heh, i put off snake for quite a while because boris was on snake:2 20:51:26 just went and killed him, now he's on snake:3 20:51:41 LOL! 20:51:44 <3 Boris. 20:52:34 So I take it no thought is going to go into 0.8 until post-tournament? 20:52:44 b/c I want my laser-eyes mutation and I want it yesterday. 20:52:44 Dunno. 20:53:31 last night, I got shafted down to D:22, killed boris, went back up to D:21, where I met none other than boris(and didn't kill him:() 20:53:38 i'm certainly not thinking about 0.8 until after tournament 20:54:10 Oh, I take back anything bad I may have said about the new Kiku. He/she/it/they r0cks ur b0xx0rs. 20:54:18 * due not going to touch 0.8 for a while yet. 20:55:06 If only I had write permissions, I could put laser eyes and an X-rated hentai branch into trunk. 20:55:16 And no-one would be able to stop me! 20:55:20 "darn" 20:55:31 Or I could try and keep a VpEn alive past lvl 4. 20:55:37 Which will take me the entire tournament. 20:56:02 We already have the x-rated hentai branch, sorry. 20:56:09 (It's called malign_gateway.) 20:58:04 Pfaugh, that's one of those mini branches or whatever. 20:58:27 It's a spell that summons tentacles through a demonic gateway. 20:59:01 I'm talking about seven levels of sex fiends (light green 1s?) followed by Shabranigdo, the tentacle lords. 20:59:21 It's official, DrPraetor is a perv :p 21:01:08 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 21:02:23 On the pervy subject - Shabranigdo makes 8 clones of himself (like a Rakshasa) who all cast Sticky Flame at you. 21:02:37 I'll stop now. 21:09:05 -!- whig has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 21:32:49 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 21:40:30 -!- Niccus has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:41:09 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:51:01 @??giant firefly 21:51:02 giant firefly (12k) | Speed: 16 | HD: 7 | Health: 15-27 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Damage: 8 | Flags: fly | Res: 06magic(65) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 241. 21:51:20 ah 21:51:33 that should probably be marked as no shapeshifter too or something 21:53:09 why? 21:53:54 shrug, not a big deal i guess 22:07:02 @??red wasp 22:07:03 red wasp (05y) | Speed: 15 | HD: 8 | Health: 29-59 | AC/EV: 7/14 | Damage: 2304(paralyse) | Flags: fly | Res: 06magic(32) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 543. 22:15:10 man, burning through piety like crazy just trying to keep my health up 22:15:16 maybe i should have saved elf for after vaults 22:15:21 !whereis doy 22:15:40 -!- upsi has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:16:10 doy the Executioner (L21 DDBe), a worshipper of Trog, is currently on Vault:8 after 69854 turns. 22:25:30 vault:8 feels quite a bit more serious than previously 22:25:54 It is, I think 22:26:35 also, is it just me, or do things seem to be generated awake more often now 22:28:18 Plants are way too hard to destroy (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2169) by BirdoPrey 22:32:42 ... 22:34:39 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:36:09 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 23:03:44 -!- ogaz has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:04:14 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 23:04:23 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 23:13:19 how many uniques are there this year? 23:14:15 Not too sure. 23:15:40 i count 68 from the player page listing 23:17:14 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:24 Is there a website to track players points earned? 23:17:34 page rather 23:17:58 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney10/players/doy.html 23:18:37 thanks 23:19:44 lol so predictable clicking on 78291s page 23:38:43 no chain paralysis (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2170) by TGW 23:38:53 haha 23:38:58 "working as intended" 23:38:59 (: 23:41:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:46:12 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 23:54:55 second stare should cancel paralysis, just like with teleports :P 23:57:10 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]