00:17:30 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 00:58:58 !tell greensnark It would be straightforward to make '!' in startup menu choose weapon, etc. 00:58:58 by: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 00:59:33 !tell greensnark I just wasn't sure that's wanted for general play, considering the "do you really want to be" prompt just mentions race/class. 00:59:33 by: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 02:10:46 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 03:28:47 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:39:01 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:46:34 done, greensnark 03:46:34 Napkin: You have 7 messages. Use !messages to read them. 03:52:27 napkin is popular :) 04:02:22 Napkin just reads his messages immediately and always forgets to tell Henzell ;) 04:16:47 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:24:13 it's mu! 04:28:57 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:42:04 Good day! 04:42:24 Mu_: I've got a bunch of new Spider monsters for your new Spider vaults, hint hint :] 04:42:34 And ambrosia too. 04:43:08 when will you start updating windows builds again? 04:44:47 03Keskitalo * r79e402ae70af 10/crawl-ref/docs/develop/levels/syntax.txt: Fix wrong section reference. [2109] 04:46:33 ortoslon: Let's see.. 04:53:17 Keskitalo: nice :p 04:54:01 Keskitalo: Did you redescribe tthe blink spider and dump the purple smoke? 04:55:03 due: Umm, it has Lemuel's description and just uses the blink spells plainly, without additional tweaking. 04:55:19 ah, so it's a blink spider? 04:55:31 Or do we need to tweak it so that it says "juumps" and leaves no smoke? 04:55:40 Yeah, and that's not optimal. I'd actually want it to have a line of fire to the spot it jumps, too. 04:55:42 just change the cast message for the first 04:55:54 ..not sure if that would make for better gameplay, actually.. 04:57:35 due: I'm looking at the trunk page update script, should I create a signifier for 0.8 windows installer builds? Will the scripts build 0.8 installers? (NaÃpking?) 04:57:38 Napkin I mean 04:58:00 I'm not sure 04:58:10 you'll need a signifier for 0.8 builds, but I thought they were already done 04:58:11 currently they won't 04:58:18 due: Jumps without smoke would probably be better, yes. And probably what Lemuel intended. 04:58:27 give me some time and i'll try to adjust it soon 04:58:40 Napkin: Ok,thanks. 04:58:56 Napkin: ,3 04:59:03 :)) 04:59:15 I'll adjust the page updater script. 04:59:27 sorry for the delay, just a lot in my head at the moment 04:59:39 Not a problem at all, sorry for bugging you :D 04:59:43 Napkin: It's fine, don't rush. 05:02:23 Ok, I updated the update-trunk-indices.py but didn't run it yet. 05:02:56 remove the "0.7 IS CLOSE" line at least 05:02:56 :) 05:03:08 ortoslon: Did that already! :) 05:03:22 0.7? Who cares about 07, 0.8 is where it's at! 05:03:38 I added the 0.8setup for windows signifier, and made the index signifiers be the 0.8 versions (including the installer, but that can be taken out) 05:15:33 ??dwarven 05:15:33 dwarven items[1/2]: Dwarven items are more resistant to corrosion than non-dwarven items. Dwarven body armour has an increased spellcasting penalty (unless you are a dwarf), but also improves your effective Armour skill (it improves it more if you're a dwarf). Dwarves do slightly more damage with dwarven weapons. 05:15:41 ??dwarven[2] 05:15:42 I don't have a page labeled dwarven[2] in my learndb. 05:15:47 ??dwarven items[2] 05:15:47 dwarven items[2/2]: A randomly generated dwarven weapon will be +1 to hit, on a coinflip, and +1 to damage, on another coinflip. Dwarven armour gets +1 AC on a coinflip. 05:15:56 ??orcish items[2] 05:15:57 orcish items[2/2]: A randomly generated orcish weapon will be -1 to hit, on a coinflip, and +1 to damage, on another coinflip. 05:15:57 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 05:15:59 ??orcish items[1] 05:15:59 orcish items[1/2]: If you are an orc, orcish armour impedes spellcasting less than other armours and improves your effective Armour skill. Orcs do slightly more damage with orcish weapons. The Armour and damage bonuses are larger if you are also a follower of Beogh, growing with piety. 05:16:13 ??elven items[1] 05:16:13 elven items[1/2]: Elven body armour impedes spellcasting less than other armour, especially if you are an elf. Elven cloaks and boots also boost stealth. Shields, gloves and helmets merely weigh less. 05:16:17 ??elven items[2] 05:16:17 elven items[2/2]: Elven weapons give a small to-hit bonus to elves. A randomly generated elven weapon will get +0 to +2 to hit. 05:18:51 ??racial ammo 05:18:51 I don't have a page labeled racial_ammo in my learndb. 05:19:11 Racial ammo should be axed. :P 05:19:24 "ordinary racial ammo of equal enchantment will clutter your inventory if you are a ranger" 05:19:44 can i add this? 05:19:58 Well it's certainly correct. 05:20:04 yay someone agrees with me 05:21:15 Racial ammo should go, it's pointless. 05:21:22 +1 05:21:49 Ok, I'll see if it easy to drop. 05:23:27 if you just axe it, it'll be a buff to rangers because EW targets a stack 05:24:11 err, if you just remove all racial modifiers from generated ammo 05:24:31 Good point.. launchers probably need a nerf anyway.. 05:28:46 kilobyte: what do you think of zero int due to cursed item -> delayed death in absence of brilliance or +int items? 05:29:25 Or remove curse scrolls? 05:29:34 you can't read at zero int 05:29:35 Keskitalo: you can't read scrolls 05:29:46 it's not any harsher than the 0.6 state 05:30:16 how many turns do you generally get 05:30:44 something like 50 05:31:07 but that number could easily be changed 05:31:13 well, they can drink restore ability or eat royal jelly... and if their base int is 6 or less, they asked for it 05:31:23 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * re158c5d6c107 10/crawl-ref/source/spells1.cc: Don't print a debug message for extension in non-debug builds. 05:31:25 yes, seems fine to me 05:31:26 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * rfb2bd23dcdd6 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Fix generated potion quantities. 05:31:27 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * rcc7a85bfcbf7 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Fix non-random potions and compilation. 05:31:29 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * rea82f3b48110 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/items.txt: Remove the word "polearm" from javelin's description. [2101] 05:31:32 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r53eda0038584 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/temple.des: Don't trap teleporting merfolk in a couple of temples. 05:31:35 03dpeg 07stone_soup-0.7 * r679c225323f5 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/entry.des: Repair dpeg_entry_water_temple_mockup intentional (by). 05:31:37 restore ability doesn't help though 05:31:40 or does it? 05:31:48 a slight detect curse scroll buff too :P 05:32:01 it does if you lost some int from another source 05:32:32 ok, let's leave it then 05:32:39 and that's the only way to get to zero unless you're suicidal 05:32:50 greensnark's on his cherrypicker! 05:33:53 03kilobyte * r40db018114f1 10/crawl-ref/source/util/crawl.nsi: Rename the windows installer output the true King of Naps' way. 05:33:54 03kilobyte * r04c280ad8fb6 10/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc: Protect save compat when NUM_{WEAPONS,ARMOURS,SPELLS,FIXEDBOOKS} changes. 05:34:52 Evenin due on the grsas 05:34:52 greensnark: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 05:35:54 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 05:36:09 kilobyte: Oh, duh. 05:38:07 03Keskitalo * r6f90c85f0a9f 10/crawl-ref/source/describe.cc: Explicitly mention that dwarven items are resistant to corrosion, that dwarves and orcs deal more damage with their racial weapons, and that elves are more accurate. [2063] 05:41:04 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:43:52 -!- OG17 has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 05:50:14 Keskitalo: are you going to delete racial items? 05:50:32 or should I? 05:50:56 er, racial missiles 05:51:52 kilobyte: I'm going away now, so if you feel like doing it go ahead! 05:52:08 I can look at it in the evening, but I'm not calling dibs. 05:53:26 03kilobyte * rfb9fa7b3e9c6 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Stop the generation of racial missiles. 05:53:55 hey greensnark? 05:54:05 mon-gear.cc has still some code left, but since it has to handle throwing axes and such, I didn't touch it 05:54:06 Miaow? 05:54:07 will you switch the macosx builds to 0.8 now? 05:54:15 Oh, sure 05:54:18 i'm working on the mingw stuff 05:54:29 I just have to run the script on the 0.8 branch 05:54:35 Er, master 05:54:43 yes, ma'am :)) 05:54:56 Oh wait, master Mac build is broken ;) 05:55:03 SURPRISE. 05:55:20 but we should have at least 1 0.8 build 05:55:29 no need for the automated process to work yet 05:55:39 Well, the Xcode project is broken :) 05:55:49 And the script just runs the xcode command-line build :) 05:55:54 * Napkin lights the torches * 05:56:11 greensnark: Sofixit! 05:56:19 Down with xcode! Down with MSVC projects! 05:56:21 pretty please :)) 05:56:22 One of these weekends 05:56:43 sounds like an axe is in need instead of torches :> 05:57:28 no, the torches are needed for tradition. An agry mob is no good without those. 05:57:39 kilobyte, could you hold off on commiting for a minute or two? i'd like the builds to have same version 05:58:13 Napkin: you don't have to pull, I don't have to push 05:58:15 arg, eino broke the py script 05:58:24 Napkin: want me to look? 05:58:39 scripts stuff - can't prevent the pull without hax0ring 05:58:58 let me build all 3 balls first 05:59:13 sure, I was looking at a large project anyway 05:59:30 greensnark: do you think there are any Unix platforms where requiring ncursesw would be detrimental? 05:59:37 Napkin: which script is broken? 06:00:09 update-trunk-indices.py 06:00:17 Ah, yeah 06:00:23 That won't work until the setup builds have been made 06:00:38 greensnark: while trying to Unicodify win32 console, I ran into this tangle of hacks. If we ripped away all _internal_ handling of non-Unicode, it would be so much simpler -- and ncurses handle non-Unicode external charsets just fine. 06:00:49 Napkin: can't have an empty default signifier, basically 06:01:03 ok 06:01:51 I can't think of any supported Unixy platform without ncursesw 06:02:51 Ok, have to go 06:02:59 bie! 06:04:28 ciao greensnark :) 06:04:48 the thing is, due - that the error code ends the automated scripts premature 06:04:57 Ahh bugger. 06:05:05 anyways, will build everything first and then try again 06:05:19 The key for the locked box is inside the box? 06:08:51 shit... 06:09:19 Just revert the change t othe default setup signifier 06:09:21 That should fixit 06:11:49 nah, wait, something else bothering me 06:22:34 arg.. someone changed the name of the resulting installer exe 06:22:38 *sigh* 06:24:07 there's a reason why the git command is called 'blame' :) 06:24:32 no need to blame, i just want it working now ;) 06:24:34 LOL 06:25:46 git: 'just_work' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. 06:26:11 git: "fuck_you" is not a git command. See 'git --yourmom'. 06:26:34 quiet, please :-P 06:58:32 ok, trunk website should be done now, please someone double check? 06:59:06 -!- whig has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]] 07:19:44 -!- hackum has joined ##crawl-dev 07:20:14 -!- hackum is now known as the_royal_jelly 07:21:17 I am playing rc3 of 0.7, last level of the slime pits, killed the royal jelly, but the vault walls don't change 07:21:29 is this a bug? how do you access the vaults 07:23:04 they are still stone? 07:24:01 yes 07:24:30 and you cannot control teleport inside 07:25:58 maybe it's the marker issue that's fixed in 0.7.1 07:26:02 did you save/reload on the level 07:26:51 i think I did, yes 07:27:14 probably that then 07:27:23 i see, thanks 07:27:35 i will post the savefile on mantis 07:27:37 just in case 07:27:40 you should get 0.7.1 07:28:33 yes, thanks, i just realized there was a 0.7.1 07:28:38 will do 07:28:41 cheers!!! 07:28:49 -!- the_royal_jelly has quit [Quit: Do what comes naturally. Seethe and fume and throw a tantrum.] 07:30:38 weapons of reaching don't work diagonally... 07:31:57 Remove Reavers (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2111) by xyblor 07:39:10 diagonally only one space, yes 07:39:17 i thought that's intended 07:40:21 it's "intended", but not really ideal 07:43:41 why were the spell ranges changed 07:44:27 i didn't even notice 07:46:16 because LOS was circular but ranges were not 07:46:30 so diagonally spells could reach targets outside your LOS 07:48:26 why not just nerf it to not allow spells to reach targets outside your los 07:54:46 reaching isn't intended, actually, it's a bug 07:58:21 * greensnark returns. 07:58:45 We should make Boris more like the Wizard of Yendor :P 07:59:07 at least he should come back stronger 07:59:14 That too 08:00:02 "clone self" with a maximum of (boris deaths) clones? 08:00:05 you mean comes back during the orb run and steals the orb? 08:00:49 has a touch of death? 08:01:11 wb greensnark :) 08:01:22 the wizard of yendor could appear on the orb run and try to sell you his amulet 08:01:29 Hehe 08:01:30 all mentioning of 0.7 removed from development builds page :-P 08:01:36 Napkin: Yay! 08:01:56 Can we use git describe to set the version number on the devel builds page 08:02:01 Manual editing is such a pain :) 08:02:01 s/his amulet/a cheap plastic imitation of the Amulet of Yendor 08:02:19 you mean in the text above? :D 08:02:20 Editing the download page involved a lot of search and replace :P 08:02:24 if you buy it though when you go up from d:1 you get planes 08:02:37 You know what we need, we need a script to do all the release steps 08:02:42 Because it is such a pain 08:02:43 hehehe 08:02:55 get a script to write 0.8 08:02:56 casmith789: better, it starts a game of nethack :-) 08:03:04 oh, you modified the wordpress download page? good job! 08:03:06 And whoever wrote the SF file upload interface is an asshat 08:03:30 Only thing I can say for it is that it is marginally less craptacular than back in the 0.1 days 08:03:56 At that time SF file upload was really hilarious; you had to upload your files to a public ftp upload dir shared with every other SF project 08:04:07 And then scrobble through the directory listing and pick out the file in the web interface 08:04:20 The web interface also had a plea that you not attach some other project's files :P 08:04:30 rofl 08:04:39 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:05:28 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:06:13 ah, those were the days 08:06:16 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:21 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 08:11:29 Those naughty creatures in #unnethack have made me read bad_ideas again 08:11:39 ??bad_ideas[1969] 08:11:40 bad ideas[1969/2149]: Redback simulacrums give you BLUE POISON 08:11:44 I endorse this 08:12:28 bad_ideas is a timewaster of the order of TVTropes 08:12:39 only not that funny :-) 08:12:51 someone should do a fork with all the bad ideas implemented 08:13:36 like, 737? 08:13:58 ??bad_ideas[737] 08:13:59 bad ideas[737/2149]: When you hit an ogre with a long blade, instead of opening it like a pillowcase, you dice the ogre like an onion!!! [IMPLEMENTED] 08:14:13 I like 781 too 08:14:18 ??bad_ideas[781] 08:14:19 bad ideas[781/2149]: Jellies eat shops. 08:15:02 ??bad_ideas[784] 08:15:02 bad ideas[784/2149]: Yellow jackets. They're like killer bees but they latch on with their jaws and sting and sting and sting and sting. No paralyze or slow, just lots and lots of stinging! 08:15:08 A person after my own heart :) 08:15:43 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:26:54 Heh, that Nexos shoals splat <3 08:28:47 ??bad ideas[1899] 08:28:47 bad ideas[1899/2149]: fire breathing, blinking, elephants from hell 08:30:24 !learn edit bad_ideas[1899] s/$/ [IMPLEMENTED]/ 08:30:24 bad ideas[1899/2149]: fire breathing, blinking, elephants from hell [IMPLEMENTED] 08:30:52 bad_ideas are so much more awesome than good_ideas :) 08:30:56 So true. 08:31:18 I believe due has a hilight on "elephant" 08:31:24 So true. 08:31:28 :D 08:31:31 Whoops, hit ^ instead of enter. 08:31:32 ;) 09:20:07 it seems that lair ruination may remove walls just inside the map border, and autoexplore won't try to expose the part of the map border behind these, saying it's finished when it clearly doesn't seem to be 09:20:24 who's at fault? 09:20:43 I am 09:20:51 in_bounds checks to travel added recently 09:20:57 Should be map_bounds instead 09:21:50 oh, I didn't mean coder, I meant part of code (travel vs. dungeon gen) :) 09:23:06 map_bounds should be the right thing to use in travel 09:23:21 I'll look at it later unless someone wants to fix it first :) 09:23:51 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:32:32 if I want to merge a branch minus a commit or two, I might as well cherry-pick the good commits, right? 09:46:57 if there's not many of them, yeah 09:47:35 if not, you'd want to rebase -i that branch to delete the commits you don't want 09:48:18 of course, at that point you can rebase that branch onto master... which has exactly the same end result as cherry-picking everything 09:48:18 ok, yes 09:49:02 I'm looking to merge Luca's preparatory clientserver stuff -- doubt he'll be back 09:49:35 Yay! 09:52:07 great! 09:53:59 I still didn't manage to get tiles running on my N900 (outside of unholy hacks like running xvncserver locally and connecting via VNC to it), and getting rid of opengl where it doesn't belong is a good idea in general. 09:54:14 needing 3D drivers for a strictly 2D game is just wrong 09:54:45 even if they happen to draw things faster in some cases 09:54:55 weird.. the n900 has a opengles chip - no? 09:55:08 just no driver? 09:55:10 opengl_es_. Not opengl. 09:55:20 they're not compatible at all 09:55:58 SDL 1.3 has some experimental opengles support, but it's hard-coded for iPad only 09:56:54 but sdl 1.3 isn't stable yet? 09:58:09 not only not stable, but appears to be so full of random assumptions that were true on a single developer's system in various places that I don't see it stabilizing this century 09:59:33 but if that clientserver abstraction is done right, we may make a port in, say, SVG + http 10:00:32 or heck, all semi-advanced graphics processing is done when building tiles, not when actually displaying them -- so even html would be able to do everything just fine 10:01:11 it's just static tiles with at most some markers overlaid on them, usually in a tile's corner 10:01:32 kilobyte: I think there are compositing effects too, particularly for water 10:03:08 oh.. didn't expect opengles to be that complicated to support 10:04:37 they say there's an opengl-on-opengles wrapper that translates calls and simulates what's missing, but I didn't have any luck with it 10:07:55 http://www.rojtberg.net/312/opengl-on-the-n900/ 10:08:36 svg + http, that's not as cool as color cycling: http://blogs.webspiders.com/index.php/retro-color-cycling-with-html5 10:08:39 "attention crawl developers: if you disagree with dungeons and dragons 4th edition on an aspect of rpg design, you are probably being really stupid" 10:09:04 argh: http://www.effectgames.com/effect/article.psp.html/joe/Old_School_Color_Cycling_with_HTML5 10:09:10 syllogism: <3 10:09:21 syllogism: Any specific aspect they were talking about? 10:09:35 I don't know why people keep thinking of Crawl as an RPG :) 10:09:53 FR: make crawl d20 compatible :-) 10:10:07 bhaak: You doing that for Un? :P 10:10:12 apparently something about circular ranges/los 10:10:50 greensnark: I'm not crazy enough. nethack itself is only sporadically d&d compatible. Also, I don't know enough of d&d to even attempt it 10:10:52 OG17 had an amusing rant about circular ranges 10:11:02 i have libsdl-13 and libsdl1.3 available on n900, kilobyte 10:11:14 but yeah.. probably far from fun 10:11:30 Napkin: and does it actually work? I mean, for GL stuff. 10:12:06 i wouldn't know.. also don't have an dev environment to test anything 10:12:40 just saying there seem to be 2 packages in the repositories 10:13:07 but probably missing sublibs (image & ttf) anyways 10:15:55 what's crawl needing from opengl (that isn't in sdl itself)? 10:19:11 st_: You wouldn't happen to be playing Unnethack, would you? 10:19:27 perhaps 10:19:50 Is that a "Yes, I'm playing Un"? :P 10:20:13 greensnark: rl.heh.fi now online, 0.7.1 logfile and milestones at http://rl.heh.fi/crawl-0.7 10:20:23 joosa: Nice! 10:20:32 joosa: All the old logs in the same places? 10:20:36 yeah 10:20:40 Ok, great 10:20:50 greensnark: is he the one screaming his pets name into the channel? 10:20:54 Although I don't plan to update master build 10:21:04 bhaak: No, but he plays Crawl as "clouded" 10:21:13 joosa: That's fine 10:21:34 I'll just point Sequell at rhf logs again 10:22:36 :) 10:22:59 joosa: 0.7 changed milestones name to just 'milestones'; is that milestones.txt a link to the right file? 10:23:06 oh right 10:23:14 Fixing :) 10:23:18 :) 10:24:00 Is 0.5 gone? 10:24:16 I seem to have lost the old logfile URLs :) 10:24:40 0.5 is not playable, but the logfiles are there 10:24:47 it's just /crawl/ 10:25:01 Ok, if it's not active any more I don't need to refetch the logs 10:26:38 greensnark: would a command make sense that shows the min/avg/max/lg real time you wasted on the games? 10:26:39 !lg * rhf 10:26:40 6535. mounteen the Shooter (L1 HEHu), quit the game on D:1 on 2010-06-24, with 20 points after 16 turns and 0:05:29. 10:27:00 bhaak: Not sure what you mean? 10:27:47 -!- Sequell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:28:25 greensnark: hmm, now that I think of an example, I get a better idea. can one ask: what was the fastest realtime game for a user to reach a certain milestone? 10:28:44 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 10:29:00 min=dur gives you fastest realtime for any given query 10:29:06 !lm * rune=serpentine min=dur 10:29:09 7138. [2009-03-31] SpeedRobin the Nimble (L11 SpCK) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 6571. (Snake:5) 10:29:15 !lm * rune=serpentine min=dur x=dur 10:29:15 7138. [2009-03-31] [dur=0:29:37 [1777]] SpeedRobin the Nimble (L11 SpCK) found a serpentine rune of Zot on turn 6571. (Snake:5) 10:31:16 !lg * rhf 10:31:17 6540. test the Covered (L1 HuFi), slain by a giant newt on D:1 on 2010-07-28, with 34 points after 188 turns and 0:02:00. 10:31:23 !lg * rhf -2 10:31:23 6539. Kalma the Swordmaster (L27 MiHe), worshipper of Elyvilon, escaped with the Orb and 4 runes on 2010-06-28, with 1416629 points after 197539 turns and 26:05:33. 10:32:42 -!- jld has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:34:49 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 10:35:06 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:36:15 yafuckingay! libsdl-gles1.2-dev 10:36:33 someone hacked the gles stuff onto sdl1.2... now lemme check if it works 10:42:04 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:44:27 three corrections to http://crawl.develz.org/trunk/ : you don't serve release candidates of 0.8, last due's playtesting post was in march, first link in the Links section should point to the new site 10:45:24 also "current happenings" on https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=start are outdated 10:46:17 "Starting with 0.7 there are be multiple game-modes" s/be // 10:47:45 -!- Siber2 has joined ##crawl-dev 10:48:01 Switch back from butchering tool gives no choice. (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2112) by lforlight 10:51:07 -!- Siber has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:13:10 Unannounced portal vault timers still need reworking (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2113) by minmay 11:15:28 yes 11:15:38 but does filing extra issues help? 11:31:02 Napkin: If you're not too busy, any important things I should consider for dgl upgrade? 11:31:08 For cao, I mean 11:45:36 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:52:25 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:59:28 -!- Siber2 is now known as Siber 12:15:49 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:26 03greensnark * rf96f175a23bd 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Fix bad rock and floor colours when placing encompass maps with &L. 12:22:26 03luca * r758743c3294c 10/crawl-ref/source/ (tags.cc tags.h): Add support for (un)marshalling variable-sized integers 12:22:30 03luca * r8f49829c0752 10/crawl-ref/source/ (externs.h items.cc): Add function to clone an item_def with only observable information (v2) 12:22:31 03luca * r0d0c82d5f744 10/crawl-ref/source/ (20 files): Make monster_info store all the player's knowledge on a monster (v3) 12:22:32 03luca * r000de2017e1c 10/crawl-ref/source/ (15 files): Convert several functions to use monster_info 12:23:07 !aplayers 12:23:33 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 12:23:41 27 active, <=80x24 players: highhope3 (L21 HEWz @ Blade, T:94719), FreeHugs (L16 MiFi @ Lair:5, T:50403), Miron (L16 MfCr @ D:17, T:48593), splat (L16 SpEn @ Tar:7, T:28467), Nexos (L15 TrBe @ Swamp:5, T:34608), Kalir (L13 MfCr @ Lair:2, T:22629), dtsund (L11 DEWz @ Hive:2, T:21624), jutes (L11 HEWz @ Lair:1, T:18653), alray (L10 MDFi @ Orc:1, T:11902), capslocke (L10 DSFi @ Lair:4, T:16312), nmf ... 12:24:20 With 27 active players cao load average is >3 :) 12:24:45 I think Aug 2009 first day had load averages >10 12:25:22 with how many players? 12:25:47 Around 40-50 active on the first day 12:26:41 how many cpus does cao have? 12:26:41 doy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:26:44 !messages 12:26:44 (1/1) GrimmSweeper said (15h 37m 51s ago): Hey, just letting you know I won't be able to be at the start of the tournament first win rush. I apparently have a life that weekend. Surprised even me. Will be playing hard Sunday though. 12:29:06 The VM sees one processor 12:29:46 Anybody who doesn't have a pressing reason to play on CAO should play on CDO during the tourney :) 12:33:36 Prompt when apporting items while over deep water (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2114) by MarvintheParanoidAndroid 12:35:04 Wow, there is some loud whining about circular spell range :) 12:35:49 We must have gotten it pretty close to right, then 12:35:51 :) 12:36:30 heh, the best way to gauge if something was a good idea :p 12:37:07 i'm still not understanding what the issues were with square los 12:37:17 but i also don't care incredibly much 12:37:20 I think square LOS is the most consistent option, yes 12:37:39 But I also think the people who are screaming about the end of the world are just giant idiots :) 12:38:16 I liked square LOS until kilobyte's comment on the relative value of orthogonal movement 12:38:46 people will complain about square LOS too I suspect, although that doesn't mean you shouldn't implement it 12:38:57 People will complain about any change, yes 12:39:04 tomb:3 will be an utter nightmare for instance 12:39:10 sorear: i think that's a lot less of an issue than the ones that circular spell range causes 12:39:12 but shrug 12:39:20 rwbarton: sounds good 12:40:17 fully implemented circular LOS has basically only one downside: aliasing errors where something can briefly get slightly out or in range 12:40:47 Yow, Putty default colours are ugly 12:41:35 well, putty totally, utterly beats all other terminals available on Windows 12:41:52 Well, of course 12:41:56 so even if it has several downsides, the alternatives are not even trying 12:42:05 Someone should do a nice set of Putty defaults for Crawl 12:42:12 The out-of-the-box look is hideous 12:42:24 http://molarity.mirror.waffleimages.com/sa/18/18d8d92420493a6fc07f68a521a022db74ebae74.png#via=salr 12:42:24 the biggest one IMO is that it can't substitute characters not present in a given font 12:42:48 so you can get random characters turn to black-on-black without warning 12:42:59 that font is bad 12:43:34 at least with that wall glyph 12:44:43 # beats the default we have in Unicode, that's sure 12:46:51 opengles port status update: the damn thing finally compiles, but now it dies on startup on an assert in tiletex.cc:78 12:47:38 -!- Giomancer has joined ##crawl-dev 12:47:58 the sdl-gles thing does a damn good thing otherwise, it has a helluva lot of translating to do 12:54:54 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 13:09:31 sorry, greensnark 13:09:43 quite caught up at the moment 13:09:52 Napkin: Sorry about messing up the py script :) Big big thanks for updating the builds! 13:10:18 let me if you need to inspect CDO's setup closer and i'll give you root access 13:11:03 No sweat, Eino :) You didn't do much messing up - I just cleaned it a bit ;) 13:13:07 -!- jarpiain has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:13:49 stat deaths are all caused by unknown source (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2115) by reid 13:14:23 -!- jarpiain has joined ##crawl-dev 13:15:53