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Why do people keep filing these bugs :P 03:33:17 greensnark: already one near-win on my ivan-tty server :) 03:33:20 http://orthanc.fixme.fi/ivan/chardumps/JoKe/morgue-JoKe-20100709-221526.txt 03:33:38 oh, how is it coming along, jarpiain? 03:33:47 jarpiain: Hey, what format do you use for logs? 03:33:53 Can I see your ivan logfile 03:33:59 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 03:34:07 wait a sec 03:34:09 greensnark: I cried when I saw 2054 03:34:28 sorear: Americans :) 03:34:43 yes, filthy lot 03:34:49 http://orthanc.fixme.fi/ivan/all-games.txt 03:34:54 sorear: You're one, aren't you :P 03:35:17 I don't like to admit it 03:35:26 jarpiain: Heyy, xlogfile, nice 03:35:33 jarpiain: You have a bot and stuff? 03:35:39 trying to steal as much infrastructure as i can 03:35:45 yes, on #attnam 03:35:46 I take it those start and end times are epoch seconds? 03:35:53 yea 03:36:24 Should use GC:3, etc instead of GC level 3 :P 03:36:40 that's the existing format 03:37:02 I see you have some startscummers :P 03:37:08 hey, git-repo? niiiice :D 03:37:32 This "Albert" person seems to be particularly choosy :) 04:03:54 -!- Matthew_Cline has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713120425]] 04:05:34 -!- varmin has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 04:14:27 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 04:17:44 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:19:44 -!- elliptic has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:26:01 why haven't we cut elf a little shorter yet? 04:27:36 good question 04:42:26 !lg * killer=~blademaster place=d 04:42:27 No games for * (killer=~blademaster place=d). 04:42:38 !lg * killer=~blademaster s=place 04:42:40 44 games for * (killer=~blademaster): 42x Elf:7, 2x Elf:6 04:43:13 high level elves should be random rare elf spawns 04:46:21 I'm terrible at deciphering mon-pick.cc 04:49:10 deep elf blademasters are native to D:31 or so 04:49:18 they only show up as extremely rare oods 04:49:27 I've never seen them spawn 04:49:35 I think I've seen one once 04:49:40 out of 3000+ games 04:50:48 all these rarity tables could use some tweaking 04:51:52 I bet those kills on Elf:7 merely followed people downstairs 04:52:14 yes 04:52:30 !lg * killer=~blademaster place=Elf:6 -tv 04:52:31 2. Filip, XL15 MiBe, T:38548 requested for FooTV. 04:52:31 is there a way to get monster gen stats 04:52:42 an easy way that is 04:54:18 !lg * killer=~master archer s=place 04:54:19 130 games for * (killer=~master archer): 127x Elf:7, 3x Elf:6 04:54:46 syllogism: add tracing code, run ./crawl -test 04:58:54 wasn't there a hidden option to do that already? 04:59:03 I just can't seem to find it at a glance 04:59:16 I thought there was, but maybe it was just something jpeg had for herself 04:59:27 source/scripts/* is relevant 05:00:02 try crawl -script place-population 05:00:26 think it's greensnark's 05:01:28 one blademaster was generated in 150 runs 05:01:39 surprisingly high 05:03:02 there's more oklobs, centaurs and sphinxes(???) generated than blademasters 05:03:17 !lg * killer=sphinx s=place 05:03:17 129 games for * (killer=sphinx): 77x Tomb:1, 7x Vault:6, 5x Vault:8, 5x D:20, 4x D:21, 3x D:18, 2x D:8, 2x Vault:7, 2x Crypt:2, 2x Orc:4, 2x Vault:4, 1x D:23, 1x Vault:5, 1x D:13, 1x D:25, 1x D:12, 1x Lair:6, 1x Orc:2, 1x D:15, 1x D:26, 1x D:22, 1x D:3, 1x Vault:3, 1x D:17, 1x Vault:2, 1x D:10, 1x Crypt:5, 1x Vault:1, 1x D:19 05:03:28 not that I've ever seen a sphinx in Elf, but got two in this Elf:6 test 05:04:00 Did you disable elf vaults 05:04:21 just ./crawl -script place-population Elf:6 05:04:24 If you have vaults enabled you get all kinds of junk 05:04:35 yeah, of course 05:04:39 Add a -nomaps 05:05:15 Blademasters should not be randomly generated anywhere afaik 05:05:22 They were intended to be placed in vaults only 05:05:28 Same deal with master archer 05:06:11 besides that, all the rare spawns are really too rare 05:07:11 -!- DocAquatic has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:07:42 I still got some deep elf blademasters with -nomaps, does it include random stair spawns? 05:08:00 Maybe someone made them randomly generatable 05:10:21 Also -nomaps turns off only random minivaults and stuff, so if you're checking Elf:7 you'll get the vault 05:10:30 elf 6 05:10:45 it still generates bees, azure jellies and such 05:10:56 Interesting 05:11:05 I'd assume shapeshifters, but those should be detected 05:11:42 I got demonspawn zombies in d:27, are those supposed to be randomly generated 05:11:46 shapeshifters show up separately 05:12:01 Demonspawn zombies? 05:12:14 @??demonspawn zombie 05:12:14 demonspawn zombie (07z) | Speed: 8 | HD: 5 | Health: 31-54 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Damage: 8 | Flags: 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(1), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 51. 05:12:17 syllogism: never, demonspawns are dummy monsters with M_NO_POLY_TO 05:12:18 Wow 05:12:35 wow, demonspawn suck 05:12:44 hmm, the zombie code should never generate those 05:12:53 @??human zombie 05:12:53 human zombie (07z) | Speed: 8 | HD: 8 | Health: 6-101 | AC/EV: 0/7 | Damage: 8 | Flags: 07undead, evil | Res: 06magic(1), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 104. 05:12:54 The zombie code is glad to do stupid things 05:13:00 Like generate zombies of unique monsters :P 05:13:05 should be same 05:13:14 @??sigmund zombie 05:13:14 unknown monster: "sigmund zombie" 05:13:18 @??Sigmund zombie 05:13:18 unknown monster: "Sigmund zombie" 05:13:22 That's fixed now 05:13:44 Games had Lernaean hydra zombies prancing around in the Crypt at one point :P 05:13:53 demonspawn dummies are not there for 0.7, so that's not an issue, I think 05:14:05 Aye 05:14:44 do we have any other zombiefiable dummies left? Dwarves used to be, but they first got zombies specifically allowed, and now they can spawn due to polymorphs as well. 05:14:49 one quicksilver dragon in 1000 iterations, sad 05:15:33 someone acquired food as a ghoul and got chunks of demigod flesh (another dummy) :p 05:16:09 or maybe that's 10 05:25:00 Looks like -nomaps is being ignored 05:26:43 03kilobyte * r68988e4cfbbb 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-stuff.cc: Make M_NO_POLY_TO actually have an effect (doh!). 05:26:49 03kilobyte * r5a548367d37c 10/crawl-ref/source/makeitem.cc: Disallow random chunks (ghoul food acq + vaults) from generating M_NO_POLY_TO flesh. 05:41:43 03kilobyte * r553c2877aa71 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-place.cc: Disallow random zombies of M_NO_POLY_TO monsters. 05:41:44 03kilobyte * r222eb879d392 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc clua.h delay.cc dlua.h externs.h libunix.cc): s/acr.cc/main.cc/ in comments. 05:57:52 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 06:28:12 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:33:18 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:33:43 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:35:12 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 06:35:49 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:03 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:40:10 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:40:46 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:10 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:44:22 Mu_: the statues still have 200hp? 06:44:23 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:44:37 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 06:46:00 syllogism: only the earth statue has 200 hp 06:46:04 air has 75 06:46:07 the other two have 100 06:46:54 are they still too tough?! :p 06:48:31 oh 06:48:45 -!- Vandal has quit [] 06:56:03 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:59:04 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 07:06:05 -!- Kil2 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07:36 cool bug: deep elf blademasters generate with an elven leather armour at their feet 07:08:05 i think they are special cased not to wear anything 07:08:23 they have an armour and are on an armour 07:08:29 maybe they're trying to dual wield them :p 07:08:44 oh wait 07:09:06 even if i &M them they gen with an armour at their feet 07:09:29 I think they steal the armour slot for that. 07:10:24 it does attempt to give them two pieces of armour 07:10:32 sometimes the other one gets destroyed 07:10:55 dual wearing 07:13:45 @?? ereshkigal 07:13:45 Ereshkigal (16&) | Speed: 14 | HD: 18 | Health: 250 | AC/EV: 10/30 | Damage: 40 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(240), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 14085 | Sp: b.draining (3d22), b.cold (3d27), greater demon, torment symbol, paralyse, minor healing. 07:14:01 he seems a bit harder than murray :P 07:14:08 @?? khufu 07:14:08 Khufu (04M) | Speed: 10 | HD: 18 | Health: 240 | AC/EV: 10/6 | Damage: 35 | Flags: 07undead, evil, spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 13magic(immune), 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 12953 | Sp: demon, smiting (7-17), torment symbol, summon undead, doroklohe tomb. 07:16:51 due: no, the stolen slot is the range weapon slot 07:17:05 due: a debm will never pick up a bow/blowgun :/ 07:17:33 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 07:38:24 ahhh 07:41:50 why is monster pathfinding restricted to monsters seeing the player? 07:42:47 because it's too slow 07:44:24 I wonder if it is, really 07:45:49 it should only affect monsters targeting the player, and should only have to be done rarely per such monster 08:05:29 -!- DocAquatic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:54 should monsters head towards the player at all when he comes down a different staircase? 08:09:13 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: neunon] 08:10:42 03by * r48c8457d9295 10/crawl-ref/source/ (effects.cc mon-behv.cc): Improve handling of monster foe memory. 08:15:59 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 08:22:29 a reasonable alternative might be to give intelligent monsters a chance to wait by a different staircase 08:48:55 levcomp.ypp: In function 'int yyparse()': levcomp.ypp:110: error: no matching function for call to 'map_def::validate_map_def()' (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2060) by JoachimSchipper 09:01:01 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:42 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 09:10:16 Someone missed an update? 09:23:43 -!- purge_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:25:03 "It'd also be pretty nice if there was an actual localization setting to convert all British spellings" 09:26:55 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:29:50 actually, accepting US forms may be not a bad idea 09:30:23 but showing them everywhere is no go, I wouldn't even think about that before full internationalization 09:44:13 can start game multiple times of a single save at the same time (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2061) by Gene 10:39:03 -!- Moriasc has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 10:42:28 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:45 !tell greensnark I'm looking at the test tourney scoring pages, for some reason a lot of players have the Lord of Darkness banner despite not earning it. Just out of the top five myself, nht and reid do 10:46:45 st_: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 10:51:31 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:09:21 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 11:10:17 rc3 bug: autotravel autoexclusion on an ice statue not saved together with the game 11:18:05 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 11:19:42 travel exclusions not saved (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2062) by ortoslon 11:30:13 -!- elliptic has joined ##crawl-dev 11:30:25 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:32:32 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 11:37:38 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:45:58 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 12:03:43 -!- neunon has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:04:20 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:11:15 -!- st_ has quit [] 12:12:25 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 12:19:03 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 12:21:33 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:26:58 st_: Yes, the scripts have issues :) 12:26:58 greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 12:27:07 I had to go out before I could fix it 12:29:50 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:33 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: neunon] 12:55:14 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 13:10:23 Ok, 0.7 tomorrow folks 13:10:32 omf 13:10:48 Only because I'm too intoxicated to do it now :P 13:28:15 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 13:46:10 !lm * type=crash 13:46:10 86. [2010-07-21] elliptic the Cryomancer (L27 DSIE) ? (D:20) 13:46:28 that crash was on the orb run 13:46:56 I wasn't doing anything exciting other than glowing like a christmas tree and cTeleing up 13:48:52 lol 13:58:21 !lm * type=crash -log 13:58:22 86. elliptic, XL27 DSIE, T:94057 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/elliptic/crash-elliptic-20100721-173054.txt 14:01:45 -!- eith_ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:04:51 -!- eith__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:05:45 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:06:47 -!- eith_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:11:33 Shouldn't the award "The Hare" actually be called "The Turtle"? 14:11:42 elliptic: we got that one I think 14:11:52 purge: it's a speedrun 14:12:52 hmmm I was thinking of the point of view of someone who doesn't really play until the end of the tournament and gets it 14:12:55 appropriate for chei 14:13:19 but i guess the "top" players will all be speedrunning against each other at the end like you say 14:13:41 it's a really fun banner 14:14:23 assuming there's enough interest 14:14:36 -!- eith__ is now known as eith 14:14:46 I'll go for hare banner if I'm around at the time 14:15:03 probably start a game 2-3 hours from end 14:15:11 still strange that chei would give out a banner called "the hare" 14:15:26 elliptic: wow 14:15:45 you want to start it just after n78291 starts his ;) 14:16:18 yeah, there is that aspect of the strategy also ;) 14:16:22 it's like a game of chicken 14:17:31 well you can be stealth about it and start a game and then die 14:17:37 after the other guy starts his :P 14:17:45 syllogism: true :) 14:17:47 stealthy* 14:18:33 and then he'll just quit and start a new game 14:18:51 i'm hoping all the good players psyche each other out and the winner has like a 10 hour game time 14:19:02 and then you'll finish at 0:01 14:19:22 Cryp71c: also, DMsl is very recommended 14:20:36 wait wha? 14:20:42 How'd we end up in crawl-dev 14:20:49 oops sorry 14:32:58 it would be nice if we could select an option at character generation to have that game not count toward CAO stats 14:33:13 so if you're anal like me you can just screw around, doing the hare or whatever and not care if you die 14:35:23 create an account stabwound2 14:36:46 then it won't count for my clan 14:37:01 nor for tournament standings at all 14:37:20 i doubt you've to be that tricky about the hare 14:38:25 stabwound: I worried about that but decided that I've preserved good stats on my elliptic account for long enough and I don't really care if trying to speedrun or whatever ruins them now 14:40:09 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:56:05 -!- lulinha has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:05 -!- lulinha has left ##crawl-dev 14:59:27 -!- lulinha has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:28 -!- lulinha has left ##crawl-dev 15:02:04 -!- lulinha has joined ##crawl-dev 15:02:05 -!- lulinha has left ##crawl-dev 15:25:46 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 15:30:03 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:34:09 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 15:47:27 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:56:19 Explicitly state that dwarven items are corrosion resistant (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2063) by minmay 16:37:31 -!- nrook has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:45:14 oh, did the "back to main menu"-feature get removed from rc3 again? 16:47:09 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 16:47:21 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 17:10:59 sharks don't have a description 17:11:31 -!- blabber has joined ##crawl-dev 17:11:40 -!- blabber has quit [Client Quit] 17:14:41 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:39:43 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:44:23 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:52:53 -!- Lemuel has joined ##crawl-dev 18:00:12 -!- Kil2 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:02:07 can we just close 2055 already 18:02:07 doy: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 18:02:11 !messages 18:02:11 (1/1) jarpiain said (14h 30m 48s ago): I'll be around for the tourney :) 18:02:28 that discussion is going nowhere productive at all 18:04:24 -!- Siber has joined ##crawl-dev 18:13:25 usually the case with og17 involved 18:23:07 Hm? 18:23:43 2055. 18:36:07 restart_after_game makes it impossible to abort arena, even when holding Ctrl-C or such 18:36:40 Napkin: It's not default anymore, but it is in init.txt 18:36:53 Napkin: Too many bugs surfacing 18:37:18 KiloByte: works for me 18:40:04 that is, esc works 18:40:10 -!- rwbarton has joined ##crawl-dev 18:40:33 it merely restarts the arena for me 18:42:59 are you running it from command line? 18:43:07 03kilobyte * rccbcc2002b59 10/crawl-ref/source/tags.cc: A hack to make valgrind show uninitialized data being marshalled. 18:43:09 03kilobyte * rd42ec54364b3 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Remove a no-op comparison. 18:43:10 03kilobyte * r0c8e0c8b7d8c 10/crawl-ref/source/player.h: Separate fields of "you" by duration: permanent/long-term/unsaved/same-turn. 18:43:13 03kilobyte * r85ef84489159 10/crawl-ref/source/ (player.cc state.cc): Initialize all fields of "you". 18:43:14 03kilobyte * r013dd3fd137e 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Get rid of the you_ref hack for restart_after_game. 18:43:48 syllogism: of course 18:45:00 yeah that's broken 18:55:54 haha someone thought, based on learndb entry, that crystal ball of fixation paralyzes monsters in your LOS 18:57:03 (slain by sheep) 18:58:13 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:06:31 is there somewhere you guys have goals for .8 posted? 19:06:45 or does anyone even know or care yet? 19:07:50 there's a wiki page but it's very preliminary 19:08:02 more up to date discussion on the mailing list, I imagine 19:08:14 ah 19:09:20 ah, roger, thanks Keskitalo 19:10:08 03kilobyte * r0bf119a2b7b1 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Make -arena inhibit restart_after_game. 19:12:17 -!- purge has quit [Quit: .] 19:12:38 -!- OG17 has quit [Quit: OG17] 19:17:20 Default autopickup exceptions should not make tactical decisions for the player (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2064) by stabwound 19:18:08 stabwound++ 19:18:11 agree completely 19:23:31 I agree, but at the same time these aren't very interesting tactical decisions 19:25:33 !mutation should definitely be picked up by default, however 19:28:53 agree to !mutation 19:29:19 summoning being marked as "evil" is exactly what that marking is supposed to do, though 19:41:15 !mutation shouldn't be purple either 19:41:27 Why not? It's dangerous. 19:42:02 are there any other purple items that are often beneficial 19:42:20 furthermore, it's not something you'll learn on the first use 19:42:35 crystal ball of energy is dangerous as well 19:42:37 should it be purple 19:43:47 heck, Tome of Destruction is purple 19:44:00 that definitely shouldn't be 19:44:13 well, it can backfire 19:44:16 sure 19:44:33 you can miscast a spell too 19:44:45 stone of earth elementals can produce hostile elementals 19:44:53 I see no reason why purple items should be ignored by autopickup by default 19:45:15 except for scrolls of immolation 19:45:40 it should really be red 19:45:41 "destroy my scrolls, hurt me a bit, do negligible damage to adjacent monsters" 19:46:00 It doesn't destroy scrolls any more. 19:47:20 the damage it does is certainly not worth an item slot 19:47:34 Yeah. 19:49:46 scrolls of immolation can be quite helpful early-to-midgame 19:50:28 you can use Curse weapon/armor scrolls to read ID remove curse scrolls 19:50:45 and learn spellcasting 19:50:48 yes 19:51:01 more useful than scroll of immolation frankly 19:52:22 @?? ogre 19:52:22 ogre (07O) | Speed: 10 | HD: 5 | Health: 17-39 | AC/EV: 1/6 | Damage: 17 | Res: 06magic(20) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 119. 19:52:25 ??immolation 19:52:26 immolation[1/2]: Scroll which creates a 3d10 fireball centered on you and extending two spaces. Not generated shallower than D:5. Does not destroy scrolls in 0.5 and later. 19:53:01 that's decent damage in some situations 19:54:26 one of these in starting inventory would make sprint 1 quite a bit easier 19:55:21 when would you actually use it except to purely gamble, even in sprint 19:55:45 fighting sonja 19:56:02 it wouldn't kill her 19:56:13 and then she would kill you 19:57:00 assuming you have higher hp, it would improve the odds 19:57:28 @??sonja 19:57:28 Sonja (05K) | Speed: 14 | HD: 6 | Health: 30 | AC/EV: 2/24 | Damage: 9, 5, 5 | Flags: spellcaster | Res: 06magic(8) | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 315 | Sp: blink, teleport self. 19:57:52 I suppose, but just punching her would also do that 19:58:02 maybe if she is exactly two tiles away 20:00:00 but I've mostly found it useful in the games where you're just hanging on, when surrounded or to bring dangerous lair monsters past the fleeing threshold 20:00:21 if you're in control, there's usually better options 20:00:31 it's just hard to come up with a scenario where there aren't better moves available 20:01:01 sure, if you've a level or two of rf 20:02:49 -!- Lemuel has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 20:07:14 -!- syllogism has quit [] 20:07:40 should just make some monsters use ?immolation at low hp, that would solve the pickup question :) 20:07:42 -!- whig has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626]] 20:08:42 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:37 -!- whig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22:51 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 20:22:56 -!- flowsnake has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:19 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 20:31:52 -!- CIA-39 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 20:35:55 -!- OG17 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:55 inscribed scrolls inscription not passed on to newly found scrolls of the same type (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2065) by Gene 21:26:18 -!- OG17 has quit [Quit: OG17] 21:30:32 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: Leaving] 21:37:59 -!- whig has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:38:59 -!- CIA-44 has joined ##crawl-dev 21:39:20 -!- whig has joined ##crawl-dev 22:04:03 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:05:57 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 22:07:52 * greensnark mews. 22:08:59 -!- Siber has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:09:27 0.7? 22:09:30 (: 22:09:31 Aye 22:10:09 -!- Siber has joined ##crawl-dev 22:21:48 03greensnark * r713c82c9c26a 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Add release date to changelog. 22:23:37 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r7b97b7286a64 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: changelog: Remove some duplicates. 22:23:38 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r324ccd5f6948 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Tighten up spell changelog. 22:23:40 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r69b22c1bffc7 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Resort interface items; remove disabled inventory cursor. 22:23:43 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * rdcfd9d60d10e 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Remove some minor changes/bugfixes. 22:23:44 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r53494fd381ce 10/crawl-ref/source/effects.cc: Fix the "plain" item during acquirement not getting properly cleared. 22:23:45 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rdb1e8518cb22 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Add release date to changelog. 22:27:46 We should allow shafts to drop you deeper the deeper in a branch you are :P 22:27:57 So if you're on D:18, you should be able to drop straight to D:27 :P 22:28:08 Imagine the hilarity 22:28:17 Not to mention the wailing and gnashing of teeth 22:28:50 i thought shafts already were depth-dependent 22:28:55 * due handwaves 0.7? 22:29:00 or is that only a d:1 special case 22:29:19 I think it's just a D:1 case 22:29:40 Ok, all tagged, and this time I remembered not to tag it 0.8.0 22:29:48 Which is more than I can say for rc3 22:34:39 -!- Siber has quit [Quit: Whoa! 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