00:10:13 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:12:08 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: zzz] 00:25:44 !tell KiloByte I just died to a tree awoken by a spriggan druid but the death message says the druid killed me directly not "killed be a tree" which is far more humourous/humiliating. See !lg clouded char=HOCK 00:25:45 st_: OK, I'll let KiloByte know. 00:26:55 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:19 Apparently the Perl DBI module is filing bugs these days :) 00:35:19 greensnark: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 00:36:28 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:37:16 casmith789: If you're here, can you point me at the page where there's buggy handling of Sprint scores? 00:39:12 Hi greensnark. 00:39:27 Morning due on the grass 00:39:31 Or afternoon as the case may be 00:39:48 :) 00:40:31 03greensnark * rc758722c4b63 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc mon-transit.cc mon-transit.h): [2001] Clear monster and item transit lists when resetting game. 00:43:59 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rceb16fcd17eb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc mon-transit.cc mon-transit.h): [2001] Clear monster and item transit lists when resetting game. 00:45:03 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 00:51:20 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 00:56:50 sprint 2 is annoyingly reliant on finding sufficient levitation sources 01:00:08 03greensnark * r615a95415b11 10/crawl-ref/source/startup.cc: [2003] Clamp length of name entered at menu at kNameLen. 01:02:21 03greensnark * r1718cb417a64 10/crawl-ref/source/decks.cc: [2004] Fix fizzle message for Blade card. 01:03:45 any chance anyone has any hard sci-fi recommendations? 01:04:45 * eith realies hes in the wrong channel... 01:05:25 * eith moves to ##crawl-offtopic 01:06:51 Oh, did I forget to commit the fizzle fix? 01:07:07 Apparently 01:13:35 Damn it 01:13:44 You mean you can't spec monsters with cool weapons then track them down in the abyss any more? 01:13:57 heh 01:15:42 03greensnark * r0089b4db135f 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile: Fix reference to LUA_SYSTEM_DIR, include SQLITE_INCLUDE_DIR in CFLAGS for the case where the sqlite headers are not in /usr/include. 01:23:30 We need something from google that can look at an image and identify the fonts used :) 01:23:41 Google Font Goggles, perhaps 01:24:24 Something like whatthefont, but less horrible? 01:24:36 The high point of my experiments with Google Goggles was where I managed to get it to recognise a Coke can 01:24:44 Pretty much everything else it refused to even look at :P 01:25:23 Zao: Hey, I never knew about whatthefont, thanks 01:25:26 Yeah, Google goggles just gives up and tres to match the carpet. 01:25:40 I tried whatthefont of the banners. I gave up after a while though. 01:25:48 I was only trying to match @ so I guess that makes a difference? 01:25:56 Using the longer strings migh tbe a better option. 01:27:44 Maybe you could just use Helvetica if you have a decent Helvetica font 01:28:00 Or Bitstream Vera Sans if you don't 01:28:09 Minor mismatches won't be very noticeable 01:28:16 But the current font is not a minor mismatch :) 01:28:56 Hah, yeah. 01:32:40 !tell casmith789 Can you point me at the page where there's buggy handling of Sprint highscores? 01:32:40 greensnark: OK, I'll let casmith789 know. 01:57:44 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney10/players/casmith789.html <-- here for instance, on "combo highscores" 01:57:44 casmith789: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 01:58:19 Aha, thanks 02:00:25 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:03:33 03greensnark * rb3e72db64444 10/crawl-ref/source/ (initfile.cc ng-input.cc): .crawlrc location fixes: Fix "Read options from unknown" idiocy, add ../settings/init.txt to list of .crawlrc locations to try (Enne). 02:05:36 [06:56] sprint 2 is annoyingly reliant on finding sufficient levitation sources <-- there are at least 6 guaranteed potions 02:05:51 casmith789: yeah, i did start to notice that 02:06:11 i think it just feels worse than it is if you're not familiar with the map 02:06:37 probably 02:08:27 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:08:53 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.7 * r93467c800277 10/crawl-ref/source/ (describe.cc xom.cc xom.h): Make describe_xom_favour() and _xom_effect_to_name() return std::string. 02:08:55 03neunon 07stone_soup-0.7 * r1c5a23c37d24 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile: makefile: add configurable system SQLite and Lua paths 02:08:58 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r397427c410a5 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile: Fix reference to LUA_SYSTEM_DIR, include SQLITE_INCLUDE_DIR in CFLAGS for the case where the sqlite headers are not in /usr/include. 02:08:59 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r97424147ddd1 10/crawl-ref/source/decks.cc: [2004] Fix fizzle message for Blade card. 02:09:00 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r8a8d09836318 10/crawl-ref/source/ (initfile.cc ng-input.cc): .crawlrc location fixes: Fix "Read options from unknown" idiocy, add ../settings/init.txt to list of .crawlrc locations to try (Enne). 02:09:03 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r6d8a9e457f7c 10/crawl-ref/source/startup.cc: [2003] Clamp length of name entered at menu at kNameLen. 02:29:57 Ok, rc2 it will be real soon now 02:30:10 Woohoo! 02:30:31 This time I'll check if the Xcode project is broken before I tag :P 02:30:52 Hah. 02:30:57 It probably is.Good old Xcode! 02:32:48 Kiku upset about nothing? (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2005) by angrykoopa 02:35:39 5 more bugs and we'll be into the future! 02:45:13 rc2 tagged 02:45:38 Fortunately I realised that my first attempt was 0.8.0-rc2 before I pushed the tag 02:48:47 ha 02:48:49 "oops" 02:50:26 I appear to have lost track of time 02:50:31 0.8 rcs already? 02:50:51 We are nothing if not progressive 02:52:54 Bushes are broken (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2006) by OG17 02:54:04 Hi. Please don't use the word "broken" without first checking to see if the behavior you describe is THE ENTIRE REASON BUSHES EXIST 02:54:17 they were created out of an "arrow-slot" FR 02:56:05 I've had a squirrel squeaking outside my window at 100dB for the past 30 minutes 02:56:17 I feel a powerful urge to slay it, but I lack the means 03:16:33 greensnark: Superior Reindeer? 03:16:57 You'd prefer caribou? 03:17:03 No, is that our title? 03:17:04 I like it. 03:17:29 I like to include random phrases like that to confuse readers :) 03:21:28 oO 03:21:50 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:14 clearing minimap leaves black stains 03:24:49 Don't soak your wiping cloth in black ink then 03:25:55 i'll file if it's in the latest build too 03:26:35 How do you clear the minimap 03:27:03 ctrl-something (i have custom bindings and don't remember defaults) 03:29:29 It's not aliterative. 03:29:38 X, ^F? 03:29:40 Or ^C? 03:29:46 ^C clears the map. 03:37:10 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 03:37:35 !lg clouded char=HOCK 03:37:35 2. clouded the Severer (L14 HOCK), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by a spriggan druid (a +5,+0 quarterstaff of protection) on D:14 (kilobyte rumbling trees) on 2010-07-18, with 37161 points after 22232 turns and 1:20:14. 03:38:08 argh please don't flash screen when friendly slimes merge 03:38:27 because that happens every other turn 03:39:26 !tell st_ you were killed by the druid by getting clobbered with his staff. If it were trees, you'd get "mangled by a spriggan druid (angry trees)". Still, your idea ("mangled by an angry tree (awoken by a spriggan druid)") sounds good. 03:39:27 KiloByte: OK, I'll let st_ know. 03:42:01 !lg * kaux=~trees 03:42:01 No games for * (kaux=~trees). 03:42:18 !lg * killer=~druid 03:42:18 2. clouded the Severer (L14 HOCK), worshipper of Makhleb, mangled by a spriggan druid (a +5,+0 quarterstaff of protection) on D:14 (kilobyte rumbling trees) on 2010-07-18, with 37161 points after 22232 turns and 1:20:14. 03:42:22 !lg * killer=~druid -2 03:42:22 1. barkalot the Necromancer (L11 DDNe), worshipper of Makhleb, blasted by a spriggan druid (ray of light) on Lair:3 (kilobyte rumbling trees) on 2010-07-15, with 10784 points after 18130 turns and 1:27:05. 03:44:56 trees <3 03:45:21 how long are trees awakened for? 03:46:31 "kilobyte" rumbling trees? 03:46:53 The name of the map. 03:47:12 oh, are all deaths in vaults so annotated now? 03:47:22 @?? spriggan druid 03:47:23 spriggan druid (03i) | Speed: 16 | HD: 12 | Health: 26-44 | AC/EV: 1/25 | Damage: 10 | Flags: spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(112) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 1093 | Sp: sunray (3d19), awaken forest, caniforms, minor healing. 03:47:26 KiloByte is in ur map, rumbling ur treez 03:47:34 yes 03:51:14 !lg * killer=orb of fire 03:51:15 139. MarvinPA the Eclecticist (L27 DSEE), worshipper of Sif Muna, blasted by an orb of fire (bolt of fire) on Zot:5 (hall of Zot) on 2010-07-14, with 589814 points after 175915 turns and 13:57:21. 03:51:22 neat 03:53:45 !lg * lvl>3 map!= s=map 03:53:45 145 games for * (lvl>3 map!=): 6x minmay sewer w, 6x hall of Zot, 6x vaults vault, 5x minmay sewer treatment, 5x bailey polearm 2, 5x ossuary tomb 3, 5x sewer kobolds, 4x ice spiral 2, 3x lemuel castle, 3x dragon1 lemuel, 3x uniq crazy yiuf cottage, 3x bailey polearm 5, 3x wormcave, 3x bailey polearm 1, 2x bailey axe 2, 2x ossuary tomb 1, 2x Giant Chief Lemuel, 2x minmay temple entry grid, 2x erik... 03:54:08 A few lemuels in there :) 03:54:30 Who did the wormcave 03:54:39 lemuel 03:54:58 !lg * lvl<4 s=map 03:55:01 553702 games for * (lvl<4): 549120x , 80x erik entry cave to civilisation, 74x dpeg entry thieves, 61x dpeg entry pits, 56x elethiomel entry 005 b, 50x kilobyte entry exit the forest, 48x dpeg entry snail, 48x dpeg entry simpleton b, 47x dpeg entry shelter, 45x dpeg entry boxorama, 44x dpeg entry orchard, 44x dpeg entry water fire, 44x erik entry gehennom, 44x onia entry zoo common, 43x onia entry... 03:55:03 minmay's sewers are satisfactorily evil 03:55:16 At D:1 the entry vaults drown out everything else 03:55:24 Yeah 03:55:27 Because map is recorded for quit+leave 03:55:36 I just wondered what kind of person would die in an entry vault 03:55:36 As well as real deaths 03:55:43 Most of it is startscumming 03:55:54 !lg * lvl<4 s=map ktyp!=quitting ktyp!=leaving 03:55:56 322817 games for * (lvl<4 ktyp!=quitting ktyp!=leaving): 322503x , 22x uniq crazy yiuf cottage, 14x erik entry cave to civilisation, 12x minmay sewer w, 7x dpeg entry caged fury, 6x erik entry blinker ship, 6x sewer frog island 02, 6x sewer kobolds, 6x dpeg entry boxorama, 6x tgw sif, 6x tgw xom, 5x dpeg entry morbid curiosity, 5x dpeg entry shelter, 5x erik entry orb chamber, 4x elethiomel entry ... 03:56:23 ...we have a blinker ship entry? 03:56:29 Yiuf :D 03:56:37 Nobody can keep track of all the entry vaults :) 03:56:40 !lg * ktyp=winning s=map 03:56:40 2773 games for * (ktyp=winning): 2757x , 1x dpeg entry snail, 1x erik entry cave to civilisation, 1x dpeg entry three bigger balls, 1x dpeg entry orchard, 1x dpeg entry renting, 1x dpeg entry court, 1x enne entry octagon isle, 1x lemuel entry broad hall high closet, 1x elethiomel entry quiet, 1x dpeg entry rooms c, 1x kb entry jail, 1x dpeg entry tiny h, 1x eino entry tree alley, 1x shiori entry w... 03:56:41 There are thousands 03:56:44 sorear: There are like 100000. 03:57:47 While there are a countable infinity of blinker ships, I did not know we even had 1 as an entry vault, let alone >10^5 03:58:46 having the Game of Life in lua as an entry vault would be a bad idea, right? 03:59:27 ADOM and one other roguelike that I am forgetting the name of, did it 04:00:01 kYEAH. uiNFORTUNATELY. :)0 04:00:07 Whoa, capslock instead of tab. 04:00:10 :P 04:00:11 While not looking at the screen. 04:00:21 You still have capslock? :P 04:00:38 what's wrong with caps lock? 04:00:49 It's great for mapping to esc or ctrl :P 04:01:00 It works better as super, imo 04:01:03 esc sits just there, and so does ctrl 04:01:07 Well, your meta key of choice 04:01:22 you do have two super keys already, so why would you need a third? 04:01:39 CapsLock is usually better positioned than Esc on most keyboards 04:01:52 And better positioned than Ctrl and Super as well on all the keyboards I've used 04:02:05 Also, the CapsLock function is bloody useless :P 04:02:14 So! 04:02:15 * sorear has never used a keyboard with a hard super key 04:02:26 * sorear is too young 04:02:30 it's useful any time you have multiple uppercase letters in a row 04:02:43 KiloByte: Nope, you just type lowercase and use an editor that doesn't suck to flip case :) 04:03:13 is kilobyte one of those people who saves on typing time by hacking INFLATE into his tty driver? 04:03:15 sorear: why would being marked with Microsoft's logo be a problem other than an aesthetical one? 04:03:51 KiloByte: the en_US pc104 layout calls that meta, not super 04:04:59 * sorear thinks it's a little silly that this stuff isn't standardized 04:06:49 not sure, at least the Gnome keyboard layout I didn't alter except for changing Menu -> Compose has them as Super 04:08:25 at least old Sun's convention of marking it as ♦ was sane 04:08:48 no one else's is :( 04:10:41 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:22:34 Ok, out to lunch; I'll be back later in the week 04:22:49 If there are explosive developments, I'm on email. :-) 04:26:29 reaching on snapping turtles seems to interfere with their retreating 04:27:09 they stay two squares from me 04:28:49 and continue to run when i move away 04:31:06 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:41 ortoslon: I think that's intended 04:32:05 hmm 04:32:14 then those turtles are very smart :) 04:32:21 they should cast spells :P 04:33:06 "The alligator snapping turtle speeds up." 04:33:20 "and starts kiting you" 04:36:12 i bet it's a 4.1ism 04:36:12 does water created by a card participate in the shoal tide? 04:44:26 !learn add bad_ideas scroll of acquirement can summon a shop of desired type 04:44:26 bad ideas[2077/2077]: scroll of acquirement can summon a shop of desired type 04:45:19 I like that idea. <3 04:45:25 ortoslon: Yes. 04:45:32 ortoslon: It is not the water, but the location of the water. 04:47:24 -!- whog has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:51:24 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:03:12 !learn add bad_ideas Orb acquirement. Of course, it acquires either a cheap plastic imitation, or an orb of destruction which explodes in your face. 05:03:12 bad ideas[2078/2078]: Orb acquirement. Of course, it acquires either a cheap plastic imitation, or an orb of destruction which explodes in your face. 05:04:05 or an orb of fire 05:04:20 i request an entry for strange machine 05:04:43 !learn edit bad_ideas[2078] s/.*/Orb acquirement. Of course, it acquires either a cheap plastic imitation, an orb of destruction which explodes in your face or an orb of fire./ 05:04:43 bad ideas[2078/2078]: Orb acquirement. Of course, it acquires either a cheap plastic imitation, an orb of destruction which explodes in your face or an orb of fire. 05:05:43 card: "The Orb"? 05:05:57 too cruel 05:08:11 summons imp spells:orb_of_electrocution 05:08:35 -!- flowsnake has joined ##crawl-dev 05:08:44 a single orb of fire can smother many characters which were deemed to be Zot-worthy by their players 05:08:50 sorear: it's "ball lightning" 05:08:58 no 05:09:07 orb of electrocution is a very different spell 05:09:27 orb of electrocution is a b26 Annihilations spell, the electric Foo Storm 05:09:37 semi-removed in 0.1 presumably for blandness 05:09:53 still exists as a card effect and Greater Destruction roll 05:10:10 disc of storms still uses it 05:13:10 @??lom lobon 05:13:11 Lom Lobon (12&) | Speed: 10 | HD: 19 | Health: 360 | AC/EV: 10/20 | Damage: 40 | Flags: 05demonic, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 12cold+++, 11elec+++, 03poison | XP: 11582 | Sp: ice storm (10d13), conjure ball lightning, major healing, blink range, blink away. 05:36:34 Does the spell still exist? 05:39:19 as a ZAP_, but not as a SPELL_ 05:40:44 !tell st_ I was wrong, there is indeed a bug, the attribution for Awaken Forest doesn't work. 05:41:11 KiloByte: OK, I'll let st_ know. 05:46:47 Ahhh. 05:46:50 I can't actually find any code to indicate why that would trigger. 05:46:50 ZAP_ORB_OF_ELECTRICITY? 05:46:50 No, no. 05:46:50 The Kiku guilt thing. 05:46:50 dock_piety does a lecture regardless of god. 05:46:50 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:47:31 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:31 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:53:44 -!- Mu_ has quit [*.net *.split] 05:53:47 -!- elly has quit [*.net *.split] 05:53:47 -!- Vandal has quit [*.net *.split] 05:53:47 -!- Zaba has quit [*.net *.split] 05:53:47 -!- Adeon has quit [*.net *.split] 05:56:26 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:28 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:28 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:28 -!- elly has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:28 -!- Adeon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:01:44 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:02:23 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:02:23 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 06:04:47 "awoken angry trees" might be better? 06:06:11 good; this would be inconsistent with all other KILLED_BY_BEAM messages, but I can't think of any other place it may be used 06:06:31 the logfile uses kaux="angry trees" which is good 06:06:45 it'd prolly look better if you could do it as killed by angry trees awoken by a spriggan druid 06:07:26 Mu_: yeah, but that would require a new kill cathegory, and the always bring new bugs. We're about to release :( 06:07:45 Can't cast shapechanging spells (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2007) by CaptainAmerica 06:07:46 ah well :) 06:07:46 I could hack it in somehow, but I'm skittish about that. 06:08:58 invoking the wrath of the forest 06:09:41 hey due did you ever determine whether or not that alchemist wizlab would be possible 06:10:20 you mean, kaux="wrath of the forest", death message "killed from afar by a spriggan druid (8 damage)" "... invoking the wrath of the forest"? 06:10:29 ye 06:11:29 that's a weird bug 06:12:59 i tried reproducing that tmut thing when i saw it on SA and couldn't 06:13:02 nothing happens when you successfully cast any transformation spell 06:13:10 it's reproducable with that save 06:13:28 weird 06:13:39 I bet it's another restart_after_game bug, somehow :P 06:15:04 I figured it out 06:15:28 die as a mummy/ghoul/vampire, restart a transmuter 06:16:10 nice :p 06:17:25 I wouldn't have requested it to be cherry picked if I had known there were so many potential problems 06:18:24 Mu_: Lazy :( 06:23:10 oh wait, the bug occurs even if you don't play an undead, any character will do 06:28:07 03kilobyte * r3d3ff3e5e9a7 10/crawl-ref/source/spells2.cc: Make Tukima's Vorpal Blade work on all blades (inc. daggers, qb, knives) [1965] 06:28:09 03kilobyte * r6e4f93d22408 10/crawl-ref/source/ (hiscores.cc mon-stuff.cc): Fix incorrect attribution for Awaken Forest. 06:29:55 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:34:43 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36:24 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 06:36:40 -!- Ekaterin has joined ##crawl-dev 06:38:50 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 06:42:57 New tile for Water Elementals (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2008) by coolio 07:03:03 Double message when drinking !oCureMutation (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2009) by JoachimSchipper 07:20:28 * due sleeps. 07:40:59 sprint trog definitely not nerfed too hard: won GhBe 07:41:40 even killed Lom Lobon on the orb run 07:42:08 wtf a pond created by Water card in Shoals just disappeared 07:47:52 you should try the second map 07:48:37 ortoslon: sounds like a bug; probably the water card does not modify the shoals height map 07:48:39 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:07 are your macros saving on cdo? 07:50:17 Mu_: apparently not 07:52:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:19 watercard pond disappeared in shoals (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2010) by ortoslon 07:53:33 That's not a bug 07:59:56 -!- flowsnake has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:00:56 maybe it's a spider 08:00:56 -!- DocAquatic has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 08:03:21 it was deep-ish (it had several deep water squares), how could it disappear fully in one turn+ 08:03:22 ? 08:06:16 -!- DocAquatic has joined ##crawl-dev 08:08:25 syllogism: I've tried the second map a few times; takes too long to die for my taste 08:10:53 yes, the new sprint maps play quite differently 08:58:38 GUI isn't properly updated (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2011) by Eifeltrampel 09:25:03 -!- Ekaterin has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:44:18 03greensnark * r781c39080c96 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc player.cc player.h): [2007] Fix tmut spells not working with restart_after_game. 09:56:43 03greensnark * r330ce4e854bd 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Fix broken macro file location in DGL builds. 10:11:36 yeah, the second map is quite a bit easier at the beginning 10:11:57 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r4ec89d1e1cdc 10/crawl-ref/source/spells2.cc: Make Tukima's Vorpal Blade work on all blades (inc. daggers, qb, knives) [1965] 10:12:12 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * rcc5f2a75fad8 10/crawl-ref/source/ (hiscores.cc mon-stuff.cc): Fix incorrect attribution for Awaken Forest. 10:12:23 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r0b9edc659556 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Fix broken macro file location in DGL builds. 10:12:24 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r621741a02389 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc player.cc player.h): [2007] Fix tmut spells not working with restart_after_game. 10:12:24 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * rd09088cdb441 10/crawl-ref/ (docs/options_guide.txt settings/init.txt source/initfile.cc): Mark restart_after_game as experimental and disable it by default for all builds. 10:14:01 Some issues with the arena (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2012) by Cab 10:14:56 Why did we add the arena to the menu :P 10:14:59 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:21 greensnark: I don't know/remember -- did I do that? 10:17:46 No idea, but it was really intended more for dev testing and IRC 10:18:07 players like it though :P 10:18:26 Yeah, but now they want us to add porcelain finish and gold-plated taps :) 10:18:44 Someone filed a bug saying monsters are called "cimi" in arena <3 10:18:58 'Also for some reason I get the string "cimi" displayed to the left of one of the fighting monsters in the monter list like "cimi J jelly".' 10:19:38 oops, details of the new unique jelly "cimi" leaking via arena 10:20:06 greensnark: that arena abyss bug was fun :P 10:20:37 Yeah, there are probably more bugs lurking in restart_after_game, so I marked it experimental for 0.7 10:21:34 03greensnark * r46aaf3808f68 10/crawl-ref/source/dbg-asrt.cc: Log the value of restart_after_game in crash dumps. 10:23:22 We need a moratorium on the use of "They say" in Crawl flavour text 10:24:13 Weasel words! More [citation needed]. 10:24:15 V - a +1 orcish robe (worn) ; They say it fits orcs well. 10:24:43 They say the orb of zot is hidden in the bossom of the dungeon 10:24:45 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r4f4c0c07b2cb 10/crawl-ref/source/dbg-asrt.cc: Log the value of restart_after_game in crash dumps. 10:25:57 I always interpreted the zot:5 vault in a different way 10:26:04 at least it won't affect cdo/cao games 10:26:14 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 10:26:37 pointless_: Someone already described your interpretation in great detail in ##crawl-offtopic 10:26:47 There was a lot of talk about fallopian tubes, etc. 10:27:22 Yeah, restart_after_game can't be enabled for dgl builds 10:27:26 so did that lead to a new start message? 10:27:46 Not yet 10:27:53 But we do have the message about the heaving bosom of the dungeon 10:28:01 s/heaving/// 10:37:53 s/bosom/bottom/ ? 10:39:23 depths? 10:40:56 Can someone check that macros work on cdo now 10:41:01 My ping to cdo is horrendous 10:41:44 works 10:41:54 Great, thanks 10:42:21 there should be some tourist brochure welcome messages 10:43:56 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:17 bah, do i have to manually specify LUA_INCLUDE_DIR now 10:46:19 that's irritating 10:46:52 -!- Lomky has joined ##crawl-dev 10:47:13 hello, I can't seem to connect to cdo 10:47:42 Lomky needs help with configuring putty under Windows 7 10:47:43 Fangorn said to ask here 10:47:51 That :) 10:48:22 doy: Oh right, the old makefile checked /usr/include and the changed makefile doesn't 10:48:41 yeah 10:48:44 We can reinstate the fallback check 10:49:10 aww, altered rat corpses don't give altered rat zombies 10:49:13 There was a putty guide somewhere 10:49:20 -!- Totaku has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:49:28 would spectral altered rats get the fire breath? 10:49:45 Lomky: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 10:50:00 Yes, I'm following that 10:50:10 I can connect to cao, cdo is timing out 10:50:33 Have you tried pinging crawl.develz.org 10:50:45 `ping crawl.develz.org` in a terminal 10:51:17 by: Don't think so 10:51:24 it pings 10:52:01 Then you're probably not connecting to the ssh port? 10:52:50 22? 10:52:55 Yes 10:53:05 user crawl, cao_key as key. 10:53:13 right 10:53:44 I have the key input, compression enabled, username set, port 22, crawl.develz.org 10:54:13 I haven't mucked with any other configurations 10:54:19 Were you able to connect before or is this your first attempt 10:54:37 first attempt in a long while, might be first on this OS 10:55:11 probably last connected back at 0.5 10:55:14 Do you have any weird firewalls blocking connections out 10:55:28 Can you connect to cao ssh instead 10:55:29 not that I know how, and I'm connecting fine to cao 10:55:32 know of* 10:55:48 Interesting, you should get Napkin to check the cdo sshd logs 10:55:59 Don't think he's around right now though 10:58:19 I explicitly let it through the windows firewall, no change 10:58:22 yes, blocked, 1s 10:58:28 He's aliiiive 10:58:40 !coffee Napkin 10:58:40 * Henzell hands Napkin a mug of café au lait, brewed by Crazy Yiuf. 10:58:50 That sounds dangerous 10:59:20 Yeah, Yiuf's cappuccino is better 10:59:57 you tried to login via password, Lomky 11:00:16 nope 11:01:18 Jul 18 17:40:16 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:21 Jul 18 17:40:18 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:24 Jul 18 17:40:33 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:27 Jul 18 17:40:34 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:30 Jul 18 17:40:40 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:33 Jul 18 17:40:43 ipx14623 sshd[10894]: Failed password for crawl from 71.62.113.201 port 54056 ssh2 11:01:36 telnet does work 11:01:36 i believe so, Lomky ;) 11:01:44 Napkin: Eeek spam :P 11:02:08 How does your auth pane in configuration look? 11:02:10 telling me "nope" even though i see it in the logs deserves spam ;) 11:02:16 oh, yes 11:02:20 but I didnt know hte pass xD 11:03:13 didnt realize it was a legit attempt 11:03:19 since I appeared to be doing it wrong 11:03:36 you need an ssh key, Lomky 11:03:40 have it 11:03:42 http://www.acc.umu.se/~zao/cdo_auth.png 11:03:46 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 11:04:00 http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/howto 11:04:13 Did that 11:05:00 greensnark: i think the arena just isn't clearing the screen in the area between the map and the hud 11:05:34 The cimi bug? :) 11:06:12 Lomky: I believe it throttles failed connections after a bunch of tries. 11:06:37 At least something like that happened to me a while ago when failing to get .ssh/config to behave. 11:07:53 from scratch: entered in host name: crawl.develz.org, port 22, SSH. Connection->SSH: enable compression. Auth->browse ->cao_key.ppk. Connection->data: auto-login username: crawl 11:08:23 03greensnark * r968cc6db3fdc 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile: Check /usr/include for lua if the Debian-standard location doesn't have it. (doy) 11:08:23 did I miss anything? 11:08:50 ...and there we go 11:09:02 Congrats :P 11:09:14 well, either I entered something right this time, or my timeout for yelling at the password prompt ended 11:09:20 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * r26d415677fcc 10/crawl-ref/source/makefile: Check /usr/include for lua if the Debian-standard location doesn't have it. (doy) 11:09:35 Napkin probably fixed it for you 11:09:41 yay Napkin! 11:09:54 Thank you Napkin, sorry for spamming your server log :o 11:10:36 no problem, that's why there is the auto-block ;) 11:10:39 enjoy! 11:11:14 backto ##crawl 11:11:18 -!- Lomky has left ##crawl-dev 11:40:29 -!- Chapayev has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:28 Square with freezing cloud & deep water prompts even if you can't enter it (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2013) by coolio 12:28:31 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:31:36 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 12:35:15 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 12:43:51 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 12:45:01 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 12:55:46 -!- Chapayev has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:15:32 greensnark? 14:16:52 you've got mail 14:23:19 -!- Totaku has joined ##crawl-dev 14:38:43 -!- nrook has joined ##crawl-dev 14:40:21 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:40:41 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 14:49:04 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r95eed839732b 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc: Consider tentacle connectors blocking during kraken pathing 14:49:05 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r4472e4059473 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-abil.cc: Minor cleanup of move_kraken_tentacles 14:49:08 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r2b13d36fbd1c 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-abil.cc mon-cast.cc): Introduce a constraint on tentacle length, drop some LOS checks 14:49:10 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r0ed9109ee3c5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (17 files): Merge branch 'master' of ssh://crawl-ref.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/crawl-ref/crawl-ref into articulated_kraken 14:52:15 -!- Pseudonut has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:06 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:32 Is slimifying Krakens a bug? 15:08:11 yes 15:08:20 a known bug? 15:08:27 yes 15:21:38 -!- bmh has left ##crawl-dev 15:34:54 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:40:37 if you slimify one, what happens? Do the tentacles just fail to go away, or...? 15:47:32 what's articulated_kraken? 15:49:05 it becomes a neutral kraken 15:49:16 as opposed to a jelly of some sort 15:53:35 ogaz: http://tinypic.com/r/jrtrih/3 15:53:49 syllogism: did you splat (or win) in your cat game? Is the difficulty totally off? 16:00:58 pointless_: thanks 16:01:14 !learn add labyrinth http://oglaf.com/media/comic/skein.jpg 16:01:14 labyrinth[8/8]: http://oglaf.com/media/comic/skein.jpg 16:16:26 KiloByte: I got bored of playing offline, was around xl 15 and had 2 lives 16:16:29 had used one 16:23:40 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 16:24:45 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 16:24:51 on the first try, or after an appropiate amount of early splats? 16:39:24 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:54:33 -!- Spads has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55:38 it was the first real attempt 16:55:50 their ev is very high 16:56:40 so they've no disadvantages really early to midgame 17:00:00 well, not sure how low their hp is, I had decent fighting 17:01:35 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 17:03:16 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 17:04:52 I found the fact the vast majority of the items were useless somewhat offputting 17:08:03 is level 2 passwall a good idea? 17:19:24 -!- Totaku has quit [Quit: Totaku] 17:20:45 -!- nrook has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 17:21:22 joey beat my sprint with 10 runes 17:21:31 what character 17:21:40 spck 17:22:00 of makhleb again? 17:22:03 ya 17:22:15 his version doesn't have the makhleb nerf, probably 17:23:34 oh that's true 17:24:20 should make Hells harder 17:25:48 really 17:26:13 make passwall level 2 (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2014) by TGW 17:26:28 there's so much xp available 17:26:56 -!- Spads has joined ##crawl-dev 17:27:49 you'll probably have higher skills than someone doing Hells in regular crawl would have 17:27:56 haha 17:27:58 ok 17:28:08 i'll add all of the pan and hell lords 17:28:10 lower hp, worse items 17:28:56 what, all 8? :P 17:29:19 two to a branch maybe? :p just not in the same room 17:30:10 it will be a bit crazy but maybe that's good 17:30:31 maybe make the entrance a restricted door with appropriate warnings though 17:33:04 he mentioned that when mennas walks around his silence field wakes a lot of shit up that's on the other side of walls 17:33:55 heh 17:34:24 and also that the elemental statues are very strong :p 17:34:38 maybe i should ditch those 17:35:07 have all 16 runes that are possible in Crawl! 17:35:14 I like how it's really difficult to speedrun past them 17:35:41 i was tempted to stick the elfen rune in elf after i learnt its still in game 17:35:48 besides you can disintegrate them 17:35:52 but i kinda like 10 it's a nice number :p 17:35:58 really 17:36:04 or I assumed you can 17:36:15 yeah, there's a limit on how cramped it should be 17:36:30 i think that's a special case for orange/silver 17:36:56 just lowering their speed further might help, is it still 10? 17:37:10 i can't adjust that in the des but yeah 17:37:17 oh 17:37:44 @?? statue 17:37:44 statue (158) | Speed: 10 | HD: 8 | Health: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Damage: 20 | Flags: 11non-living | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 561. 17:37:51 i could give them cantrip again, dunno if it has any effect if they have a spell twice 17:41:07 -!- Totaku has joined ##crawl-dev 17:53:46 would it be possible to do something like make a corruption style effect occur centred on the player once they get the orb milestone 17:54:36 with a bit of lua, sure 17:55:49 it'd be cool if small-radius corruptions occur repeatedly while the player is holding the orb but that sounds more difficult 17:56:24 shouldn't go too crazy with lua since the map has to function properly during the tournament 17:56:32 ya 17:56:44 just the orb run is even more anti-climactic than in regular crawl 17:57:12 Mu_: i made that suggestion for the actual game like a year ago 17:57:15 (: 17:57:18 haha :) 17:57:23 a function to spawn some demons shouldn't be risky, I think 17:59:18 actually for the actual game i think it would be cooler to just have the whole level be slightly corrupted, with "slightly" getting more and more so the further up you go 17:59:30 it would make the random demon spawns make a lot more sense anyway 18:00:16 would that mean you've doomed the surface world :3 18:00:50 maybe! 18:00:52 who knows! 18:01:03 (this is why i like crawl not having a backstory) 18:01:04 (: 18:01:20 or perhaps, do more and more corruption over time 18:01:34 to make sure Cheibriadities don't get too uppity 18:03:12 (: 18:24:24 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:31:07 -!- jooosa has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:18 -!- joosa has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:33:18 -!- jooosa is now known as joosa 18:40:45 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 18:41:37 Increased load times (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2015) by mindmann 18:42:50 hmmm, i wonder if the directory fiddling made it confused about where map caches are 18:47:00 -!- casmith789 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:49:05 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 19:03:58 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:08:19 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r505f69f72124 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-abil.cc mon-stuff.cc): Prune some unused code 19:08:23 03pointless_ 07articulated_kraken * r98973aa9dadf 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-abil.cc mon-act.cc): Improve tentacle pathfinding 19:18:02 -!- syllogism has quit [] 19:52:37 i think the main thing that makes sprint 2 so much easier is that it just throws items at you like crazy 19:52:40 especially early on 19:52:50 sprint 1 is really pretty bare 20:03:47 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 20:07:10 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 20:08:05 does crawl need all the .des files to start? 20:11:37 what do you mean? 20:12:12 -!- felirx_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:12:17 -!- felirx_ has quit [Client Quit] 20:14:08 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 20:15:19 it refuses to work if you don't have any temple maps, yes? 20:16:59 yes 20:17:16 does it need anything else? 20:17:28 entry maps, probably 20:17:29 why? 20:17:41 no reason 20:17:51 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:24 I guess it wants branch ends for rune branches 20:50:21 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 21:12:24 Re-evoking levitation (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=2016) by Timbermaw 21:53:29 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]] 22:54:24 -!- Poor_Yurik has joined ##crawl-dev 23:23:40 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:37:49 -!- Vandal has quit [] 23:40:20 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 23:42:15 yo 23:42:15 -!- Vandal| has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:18 -!- Vandal| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:44:45 -!- Vandal| has joined ##crawl-dev 23:44:55 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:46:35 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 23:46:56 -!- Vandal| has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:04 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:09 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 23:48:14 Yoyovandal? 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