00:04:40 abyss is never regenerated in sprint (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1963) by reid 00:07:37 Always the Sprint bugs 00:39:28 03greensnark * r87e4b11c5908 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc spells3.cc): [1963] Fix abyss not generating new areas in Sprint (reid). 00:42:04 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 00:44:22 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r9d23b05e183a 10/crawl-ref/source/effects.cc: Disable quads from acquirement as well. 00:44:33 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.7 * re215696110d5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc spells3.cc): [1963] Fix abyss not generating new areas in Sprint (reid). 00:44:53 Kenku Sprite (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1964) by Totaku 00:55:41 -!- EroN1 has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:57:05 -!- Vandal has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:48:48 :( any chance of changing the kiku banner? 01:48:53 it doesn't make any sense 01:58:37 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 02:05:06 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:45:57 due: You around? 02:46:03 casmith789: It's being changed 02:46:09 oh cool 02:46:12 Kiku banner is going to be for win without doing Lair 02:46:18 I need a name for the banner though 02:46:19 huh, okay 02:46:30 yay 02:47:10 something about reducing the time spent among the living? 02:47:33 I need to get rax to write the banner flavour text :P 02:48:09 Jiyva is going to give the royal jelly banner to anyone who destroys the Orb 02:48:25 +20 points as a consolation prize 02:50:28 destroys the orb!? 02:50:32 ouch that's mean 02:50:45 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 02:50:49 dpeg's idea, of cours 02:50:56 Goes without saying P 02:54:46 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:00:43 uhm, can you even do that? 03:00:55 not sure if even lava will destroy the Orb 03:01:56 Abyss won't store the orb, though, like it does with artefacts, right? 03:02:28 does sacrificing it "destroy" it? 03:02:49 Nemelex won't accept it 03:06:39 Oh right, we changed item destruction 03:06:48 Anyway, better ideas welcome 03:07:06 We'll need to make Crawl changes anyway to add milestones and logfile info for the new conducts 03:07:10 Fedhas' in particular :( 03:07:51 I need the rules settled by this weekend, which is when I start updating the scripts 03:12:44 Rules updated: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney10/index.html 03:13:29 How many points should we award for win-with-last-start-time? 03:18:46 like for the first? 03:21:34 200/100/50? 03:21:41 Oh that's evil. 03:21:54 I' 03:22:19 Is 200/100/50 too much? 03:22:46 I'd prefer to give points only to one player 03:23:27 then 100? 03:23:40 Ok, done 03:23:51 this doesn't seem to be really fitting for a banner, though 03:24:07 apart from Beogh, any player can get any banner 03:24:15 That's true 03:24:54 next tournament 03:26:15 out of interest, why was the highest overall score thing removed? 03:26:27 It's back 03:27:00 ah, hadn't reloaded 03:27:28 The idea was that we already rewarded speedruns, and 15-rune wins, but we hadn't considered 15-rune speedruns 03:30:08 tournament sprinting will be restricted to the sprint map, right? 03:30:22 The new sprint map, yes 03:30:26 -!- st_ has quit [] 03:30:40 I'm still a little concerned at all the moving parts involved in unleashing Sprint in the middle of the tourney 03:31:17 It's quite likely there'll be screwups with Sprint 03:32:40 greensnark: Regarding the Ziggurat clan points.. how about changing that from reaching the deepest level in one Ziggurat (which caps at 27), to completing the most zig levels in a single game? That way you'll need to play several. 03:33:07 I guess you could scum that though by only playing a few levels of each Ziggurat. 03:33:07 Well, Pan provides infinite ziggurats, and the early levels are easy 03:33:12 Yes 03:33:41 But now the prize is basically "fastest Ziggurat completion in the tourney" 03:34:49 perhaps it could be sum of all zig level numbers... that would give O(n^2) for a Zig with n levels completed 03:35:21 or perhaps even O(n^3) could be better 03:36:32 if you want simplicity of rules rather than simplicity of formulas, it might be "number of Zigs completed, max level of a non-completed Zig". 03:37:22 I'm not really keen on making zig rules changes :P 03:37:38 I'm really short on time this year, and the fewer changes I have to test, the better for me 03:38:14 I'm not particularly happy with having to babysit 0.7 in the first place :P 03:38:53 I'd appreciate it if anyone wants to take up 0.7 manager role so I don't have to spend time there 03:40:32 -!- st_ has joined ##crawl-dev 03:40:50 Yeah, I can see the point of already having the code in place. (and it was a nitpick too) 03:46:20 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:47:18 03kilobyte * rb04ef364c009 10/crawl-ref/source/ (rltiles/dc-mon.txt rltiles/dc-mon/kenku.png tilepick.cc): Add Totaku's tile for kenku (monster). 03:47:19 03kilobyte * r6b52ec5567bd 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/variable/entry.des: Remove a doubled elf from kb_entry_jail. 03:48:42 Btw, I'm quite serious about offloading 0.7; KiloByte, by, if you have time, can you do the release manager thing 03:49:24 We need a release out by 21st, and I really don't have time to spend on it 03:49:35 Keskitalo: could you take a glance at the kenku tile -- it may look better with no wings (and more true to the game), but I committed the original version (fixing the bg and rim) so it's at least on the record 03:50:42 greensnark: cherry-picking and testing builds, perhaps, but I don't have the slightest clue about the tourney 03:51:04 KiloByte: The cherry-picking and testing is what I need to offload anyway 03:51:27 I will need to make changes to logfiles and milestones for tourney, but those I'll patch into master 03:51:41 Keskitalo: having that tile used for player as well could be nice, but that's something for you or Enne rather than me... 03:51:47 I'm just finding it hard to spend time on both; this is a busy couple of months for me 03:52:24 All that's needed for release is to mark a release candidate soonish and be selective about cherry-picks 03:52:31 Enne is already taking care of the tiles end of tings 03:53:31 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:25 greensnark: sorry I'm not more help, but I really can't do 0.7 03:57:02 It's ok, just checking if one of you has the time 03:58:11 What's up? 03:58:24 dpeg: hi! 03:58:29 Hi! 03:58:46 greensnark: we need to hire professional support! 03:59:21 uh, rather hire good support 03:59:38 We could pay those NH guys to help with our release. 03:59:51 greensnark: my workplace is at its last legs, there's almost no work right now but it's likely I'll be busy looking for a replacement in a not so distant future 03:59:52 I've had bad experience with so-called professionals 04:00:12 KiloByte: Ok 04:00:14 greensnark: but I have trouble with the concept of "no last minute big changes", to be honest 04:00:17 dpeg: the NH guys are neither good nor professional! 04:00:21 :) 04:01:07 Did everyone see Mu's awesome proposal for a new Tloc spell? 04:01:45 maybe the codebase is cursed? my last release of nethack-de has been jan last year and unnethack is already past it's due release date :) 04:03:10 it looks strongly like Summ to me, but yeah, it's not a bad idea 04:04:39 does any of you have Vista/7? or any Windows 64 bit? 04:06:36 I think syllogism is running Win 7 64-bit 04:06:43 I spent several hours fighting UAC last night, and it _appears_ to work, so some testing would be nice 04:06:56 I have a 32-bit Win 7 VM, and I can dual-boot to Win 7, but I'd prefer not to right now :) 04:07:32 I tested it in such a VM myself, although not in the full UAC mode yet 04:08:25 running Win 7 on a very slow machine takes ages, and I wimpied out at 2:30am, after testing just limited user and admin accounts 04:11:26 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:53 ? 04:13:12 I tried your installer yesterday, but that was on an admin account 04:26:06 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:29:04 syllogism: that version had no support for UAC, so it worked only with full admin rights 04:29:22 but you say that it worked on 64 bit, right? 04:29:26 yes 04:29:59 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 04:30:01 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 04:32:46 oh right, cat claws aren't all that good for hydra killing :P 04:33:01 greensnark: Ack, hi 04:33:26 greensnark: I haven't had a chance to whack anyone yet, v. busy day 04:33:26 syllogism: zap the hydra to death with a wand! 04:34:00 syllogism: oh, wait... pelt it with darts/arrows then :p 04:34:15 I made an oklob :P 04:38:27 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:42:32 syllogism: Sprint? 04:42:41 no 04:57:44 greensnark: Will reply to your email. 05:05:27 -!- Madtrixr has joined ##crawl-dev 05:05:55 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:11:18 mu! 05:11:41 due 05:12:58 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:22:06 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: later] 05:24:36 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 05:37:13 03kilobyte * r0a08345ef355 10/crawl-ref/ (.gitignore source/makefile source/util/crawl.nsi): An unified installer for Windows, using NSIS. 05:40:16 KiloByte: Is NSIS on CDO? 05:42:15 no, but it's packaged in Debian, so it's a matter of "apt-get install nsis". 05:42:24 * due prods Napkin. 05:43:14 what's ip? 05:43:18 *up 05:43:23 Napkin runs stable which has nsis 2.37, I tested it just wih 2.46 05:50:21 I'm not sure if it makes sense to jump to my new installer before anyone else tests it 05:52:56 I have VMs with 98, 7 and Vista at home too, so I can't test the cross-hosted build outside of XP right now, as I have no working VMs for other Windowses right now 05:53:55 this last irc message was sponsored by "dark secrets finally revealed" 05:54:50 Whose dark secrets? 05:55:06 KiloByte is a windows hugger! 05:55:59 Oh. :) 05:56:52 bhaak: no, it's just that every single customer uses Windows, so I can't avoid that crap. I'm not suicidal enough to run it outside a VM, though. 05:58:14 KiloByte: I would believe you if it weren't for 98. Only a real lover of windows runs that ;-) 05:59:00 add a serious deal of coprophilia... 05:59:23 fortunately, the last bastards I have to deal with dropped it a few years ago 06:00:13 nobody said windows user weren't strange and perverse 06:01:44 hrm, a win95 install CD I have here is corrupted :( So I can't shock you even more... 06:02:02 I have win 3.11 floppies 06:03:06 I have win 1.01 floppies. Actual 8-inchers. Nailed to the wall. 06:04:23 (not that I've ever seen an 8-inch drive my entire life, and the floppies someone dumped my way were already pre-nailed before I got them. Through the actual disk and not just the cover, too.) 06:06:08 KiloByte: Setting up nsis (2.46-2) ... 06:07:32 http://angband.pl/win1.html 06:07:54 the real blue screen 06:08:03 KiloByte: I've a crashing save, but since I'm playing a cat, do you want to take a look at it first? 06:08:13 it's probably not related to cats 06:08:53 syllogism: sure 06:09:08 syllogism: what's the crash dump assert message? 06:10:11 I can't see all of it, but it's "..ry( gdr(pos)) )) in 'monster.cc' at line 4971 failed 06:10:20 when I attack a merfolk 06:10:33 hihi http://www.computermuseum.li/Testpage/FloppyDisks.htm 06:11:41 i'll have to use some filehosting service if I don't post it on bugtracker first though 06:11:46 might work not bad as a frisbee? 06:12:43 http://www.mediafire.com/?ttejiz2ymjem5i0 06:13:08 there's some fish on land in your save 06:13:38 messy cats... 06:20:12 there's a shark in shallow water that thinks it's on land 06:20:40 evolution in progress 06:22:30 Looks like we have both wingful and wingless player kenku tiles. 06:37:57 got it, your landshark was affected by a tide 06:38:36 it's way to the east from you, at (65,19) mindex=75 06:40:12 More bugs? Yay 06:40:56 Can we just delete the ench if the monster is back in water instead of going argh and dying? :) 06:42:11 hmm, indeed. I was thinking of making sure no fish get stranded on land, but in RL, they sometimes do on low tide. 06:42:44 here, the shark got stranded but the tide turned before it died 06:43:18 greensnark: did you want me to try having a stab at making banners? 06:43:26 due: If you want to :) 06:43:38 Or you can coordinate with Poor_Yurik or purge or anyone interested :) 06:43:43 greensnark: they're relatively simple... 06:43:48 due: Go for it <3 06:43:54 r for Chei 06:44:00 % for Fedhas 06:44:08 Just work off the full size, not the tiny images we actually show currently 06:44:09 and royal-jelly coloured J for jiyva 06:44:12 yeah, definitely 06:44:16 Ok, great 06:44:23 Demon prince sounds a bit wanky too. 06:44:27 Yeah 06:44:42 You have carte blanche to change wording and titles 06:45:02 For all of them or just the new ones? 06:45:06 For all of them 06:45:10 I want "lairless loiterer" :) 06:45:16 All the banner images say "2009", which was rather naughty of Onia :P 06:46:10 When you're done with the changes to the wording, just email me the html block 06:46:19 Okay 06:46:30 I can donate 45m to it now, sso I'll get started 06:47:02 03kilobyte 07cats * r6560e4645673 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Fix crash causes by the tide returning to a stranded fish. 06:48:15 KiloByte: wrong branch? :) 06:49:09 due: syllogism's game is a cat, I'm cherry-picking it to master 06:50:09 03kilobyte * r96a6a5c628b6 10/crawl-ref/source/monster.cc: Fix crash caused by the tide returning to a stranded fish. 06:51:04 -!- Totaku has quit [Quit: Totaku] 06:52:06 but hey, it's kind of related. An uncle of mine has a small pool with carps, and claims that his cat emptied it. 06:52:59 I quite can't imagine how that could be done -- he says the bastard sat on the bank and reached out with a paw... but that explanation seems fishy to me 06:53:08 due: You can also clone http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_tourney and edit templates/index.mako directly 06:54:47 I guess it was a neighbour with a net or something, and that the uncle is simply seeing things 06:55:24 Cats and carp sounds like your uncle is playing too much DF 06:56:50 03Keskitalo * re20b67a3034c 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/ (UNUSED/monsters/kenku_winged.png dc-mon/kenku.png): Remove wings from the new kenku tile, also add a shadow. Keep the winged one in UNUSED. 06:56:52 03Keskitalo * r27501e37c901 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dc-player.txt: Make the wingless player tile the default for kenku, as per description in the manual. 06:57:17 Keskitalo's name starts with Ke. Coincidence? I THINK NOT 06:57:51 Kenkuhouse! 06:58:08 The name "kenku" is such a D&D:ism. Something ought to be done! 06:59:04 We need to do an abomination along the lines of "hurthling" to some species 06:59:14 kranku? 06:59:26 unkenku maybe :P 06:59:34 bhaak is such an inspiration to us all 06:59:58 graifans 06:59:59 birdo 07:00:19 BirdO?! 07:00:23 Is that the best you can do? :P 07:00:41 it's the best Nintendo can do :P 07:00:51 Well, they named something Wii 07:01:04 Initialized empty Git repository in /home/persson/dcss_tourney/.git/ 07:01:04 error: git was compiled without libcurl support. 07:01:05 hulp 07:01:33 Do I have to recompile git... again? 07:01:38 You compiled git yourself? 07:01:41 Yeah. 07:01:50 Yeah, there's a config script option to enable libcurl buildin 07:01:57 Hm, that's strange. 07:01:59 It should do that automatically if you have libcurl devel stuff installed 07:02:09 It defaults as on, and I didn't turn it off. 07:02:16 You probably don't have headers 07:02:24 Ah, true 07:02:34 * due goes to install 07:03:11 "graifan" is almost google-unique 07:03:26 Hm, I seem to have them. 07:03:49 I'd like "tengu", actually! 07:04:05 Isn't tengu D&D? 07:04:07 Or NetHack? 07:04:26 Tengu is Buddhist 07:04:34 dunno and yes and real mythology, too :) 07:05:25 Also, I'm thinking of a Hell with kenk... tengu, them not being demonic (for gameplay) but originating from some sort of demonic origin, hence hanging around in a Hell. 07:05:42 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:05:54 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:12 Anyone know what font Onia used? 07:16:44 rax might know, but I doubt it 07:17:05 Or Giomancer if he's around 07:18:37 due: You can just wipe and use your preferred font if you don't mind updating the whole bunch :) 07:20:47 -!- Totaku has joined ##crawl-dev 07:21:25 I think I'll just use the default seriif Italic. 07:21:30 DejaVu Serif, I guess? 07:21:48 It's very, very close. 07:22:06 I don't know the font unfortunately. 07:22:10 I could chek my email. 07:22:31 If we want the Cheirwhatever badge to be attainable by everyone, it could just be "game over 200k turns" 07:22:46 Oh hey I have the font. 07:22:47 Cheirwhatever :) 07:22:48 Like, the font file. 07:22:56 Ooh 07:22:57 Due, what email address should I forward it to? 07:23:02 due: You're in luck! 07:23:04 "It's almost like I'm useful" 07:23:15 That should make it a lot easier to do the text without torching all the old banners, yes 07:23:36 I also have the base GIMP file for the ribbons. 07:23:40 <3 07:24:10 due seems to be overwhelmed by the good news :) 07:25:00 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:25:04 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 07:25:31 rax: Game over 200k turns would encourage farming :( 07:26:00 -!- Pseudonut has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:26:16 greensnark: True. :/ 07:26:19 rax: bookofjude@gmail.com 07:26:20 <3 07:26:25 rax: Latest rules here http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney10/index.html . due is looking into better wording for the banners, particularly the Kiku banner, but if you have time could you also check? 07:26:39 due suggested "Lairless Loiterer" I think :P 07:26:54 "Lairless Loiterer" is excellent. <3 07:26:55 The current placeholder is unsuitable because it is gendered 07:26:57 Oh wait, I suggested it. 07:27:02 :P 07:27:29 I find all of these problematic as most of them rely on "winning". What is this winning they speak of? 07:27:34 fatal: http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_tourney/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? 07:27:39 :/ 07:27:48 Wait, what URL are you using to clone? 07:27:56 http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_tourney 07:28:16 http://github.com/greensnark/dcss_tourney.git 07:28:19 Ahh. 07:28:23 Duh :) 07:28:28 Ooh, I like the improved Kiku banner. 07:28:55 rax: Got the template and the font, thanks! 07:30:13 due: If you email me your ssh key, I can give you direct push access to the github repo 07:30:26 Or if you want to fork the repo, that also works for me 07:30:35 HAHA, that reminds me of the WIkimedia toolserver. 07:30:37 did you implement a solution for the all-fruit issue? 07:30:45 All-fruit issue? 07:30:50 Fedhas banner, you mean? 07:30:55 yeah 07:31:00 Their sign-up page has "pleease send us your SSH key. NOTE: THIS IS THE PUBLIC KEY, NOT THE PRIVATE KEY. If yousend us the private key, we will laugh at you." 07:31:03 I'll have to patch Crawl to track fruit found and write it in the logfile entry, yes 07:31:13 fruity! 07:31:37 I'm not particularly thrilled with having to log fruit, but no way around it :P 07:31:52 perhaps just write a single bit field? 07:31:57 Yes 07:32:00 But still 07:32:44 And the bitfield will be prone to rot if stuff gets rearranged 07:32:59 Not my favourite banner for implementation reasons :) 07:34:40 You're insane :0 07:35:04 I may be insane, but I'm not crazy :P 07:35:17 Can you substantiate your charges? :P 07:35:48 Glad to hear you all appriciate the Kenku sprite 07:35:58 * greensnark hugs Totaku. 07:36:13 Totaku: It is tres awesome! I didn't comment 'cos I'm lazy. 07:36:15 I think I'm hypercaffeinated 07:36:45 greensnark: Leave me a !message about Lairless Loiterer? We could also use Lairless Lar(r?)ikin. 07:37:02 :D 07:37:03 Lairless Leaver? 07:37:12 Lairless Leaver <3 07:37:20 That works! 07:37:39 due: Your call, choose what you like best :) 07:37:44 Okay, I'll go for Leaver. 07:37:51 If you want to change rules, then give me a kick 07:37:58 I've sent you my pubkey 07:38:02 Wording/banner names/banner images --> all yours 07:38:41 I don't see your email 07:38:59 Hm 07:39:32 Oh, I didn't actually send it. 07:39:40 Got it now 07:39:42 Now ihave! 07:40:13 One of these days I'll sign up for a github account. 07:40:20 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:40:31 due: Ok, change your remote to git@github.com:greensnark/dcss_tourney.git 07:40:35 And you can push your changes 07:40:50 due: It takes <2m to set up and push your first repo 07:40:52 Hooray! 07:41:04 I know because I created this account just now :P 07:41:19 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 07:41:23 HAHA. 07:42:26 http://img.waffleimages.com/09f2d7c0d1a5a5ead178cd5e8a47fee36b750eb2/goat.jpg 07:43:13 Oh that is brilliant 07:43:17 <3 DF 07:43:29 Okay, now I actually go 07:43:33 How do you get a dwarven goat, out of curiosity? 07:43:43 I've no idea 07:43:49 You give it an axe and a beard. 07:45:08 That goat has a somewhat oriental name 07:46:21 Oriental or ornamental? 07:48:36 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 08:09:05 !tell Enne due to conflicts, I've put two tile commits on entry_jail_0.7 -- could you either pick them, or, alternatively, delete the kb_entry_jail vault and take just the dwarf one (since dwarves can appear due to polymorph)? 08:09:06 KiloByte: OK, I'll let Enne know. 08:42:58 03greensnark * r5825bbfabf94 10/crawl-ref/source/terrain.cc: Reinstate full item destruction when dropping stuff into lava, don't destroy abyssal runes in water. 08:43:04 03greensnark * r08b10a2aef29 10/crawl-ref/source/items.cc: Add a milestone for destruction of the Orb. 08:43:18 03greensnark * r1b48fd3810b5 10/crawl-ref/source/ (20 files): Rename is_rune* to item_is_rune*, make mark_milestone usable without dgl check at every point of use. 09:09:31 not that this has any chance of actually happening, but if you draw a tomb card while flying over lava, the adjacent Orb is pushed onto your tile, but is not destroyed 09:11:03 Surface tension 09:11:16 Yeah, not going to fix that :P 09:11:27 but it's not on the surface :P 09:11:32 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:38 it's not possible to retrieve it outside wizmode 09:11:47 Still not going to fix it :) 09:11:53 But you can file a bug, we may get to it later 09:11:54 I wouldn't either :P 09:12:10 The list of minor warts is ever-increasing :( 09:12:37 Particularly the number of places where we have fractured grammar 09:13:21 The line for Nemelex refusing to accept sacrificed runes made me groan :P 09:14:36 Sigh 09:14:38 haha 09:14:56 Nemelex Xobeh wants the Orb's power used on the surface! 09:14:58 Some commit over the past 2 days on CDO 0.7 has destroyed my stats, somehow. 09:15:12 well, not destroyed, but completely re-allocated them. 09:15:20 one day we'll find out what the damn thing is good for 09:15:48 0.9 should focus on the plot 09:16:08 greensnark, know of any commits that address stats in any way that have gone in recently? 09:16:22 That's pretty vague 09:16:24 destroyed? 09:16:27 Not that I know of anyway 09:16:32 syllogism, perhaps a bit overdramatic. 09:16:53 My EV build DS has had Dex pumped for all stat-choices (with the exception of 1, I think, which went to int). 09:17:11 At some point (without me noticing) between yesterday and now, I've transfered to new versions twice 09:17:31 and now my base str is 20 and my base dex is 10, no where near the values they were. 09:17:40 Perhaps you got shuffled 09:17:43 Is your game active 09:17:50 @whereis Cryptic 09:17:50 Cryptic the Backstabber (L23 DSEn), a worshipper of Okawaru, is currently on Vault:7 after 118632 turns. 09:17:50 greensnark, how do you mean, active? 09:17:56 Yeah, its ongoing 09:18:04 Hit # and let's look at the dump 09:18:19 @dump Cryptic 09:18:19 http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Cryptic/Cryptic.txt 09:18:33 Took off all my gear to test 09:19:23 !lm Cryptic DSEn x=start 09:19:23 78. [2010-07-14] [start=-01- []] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 117092. (Vault:8) 09:19:28 !lm Cryptic DSEn x=rstart 09:19:28 78. [2010-07-14] [rstart=2010-07-13 [20100613021249S]] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 117092. (Vault:8) 09:19:40 !lm Cryptic DSEn rstart=20100613021249S 1 09:19:41 1. [2010-07-13] Cryptic the Miscreant (L7 DSEn) killed the ghost of reid the Infuser, an experienced SpEn of Okawaru on turn 9451. (D:8) 09:19:47 !lm Cryptic DSEn rstart=20100613021249S 1 -tv 09:19:47 1. Cryptic, XL7 DSEn, T:9451 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 09:19:52 !lm cryptic -5 x=dex 09:19:53 2832. [2010-07-14] [dex=23] Cryptic the Backstabber (L23 DSEn) reached level 6 of the Pits of Slime on turn 111851. (Slime:6) 09:20:10 Yeah, looks suspicious 09:20:18 !lm cryptic -4 x=dex 09:20:18 2833. [2010-07-14] [dex=23] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) killed the royal jelly on turn 112479. (Slime:6) 09:20:21 !lm cryptic -3 x=dex 09:20:21 2834. [2010-07-14] [dex=19] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 113444. (Slime:6) 09:20:27 !lm cryptic -3 x=dex,str 09:20:27 2834. [2010-07-14] [dex=19;str=14] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a slimy rune of Zot on turn 113444. (Slime:6) 09:20:31 !lm cryptic -2 x=dex,str 09:20:31 2835. [2010-07-14] [dex=26;str=14] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) reached level 8 of the Vaults on turn 115755. (Vault:8) 09:20:41 !lm cryptic x=dex,str 09:20:41 2836. [2010-07-14] [dex=15;str=24] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 117092. (Vault:8) 09:20:46 Looks like a shuffle 09:20:59 !lm cryptic x=dex,str,int 09:20:59 2836. [2010-07-14] [dex=15;str=24;int=20] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) found a silver rune of Zot on turn 117092. (Vault:8) 09:21:00 !lm cryptic x=dex,str,int -2 09:21:00 2835. [2010-07-14] [dex=26;str=14;int=19] Cryptic the Backstabber (L24 DSEn) reached level 8 of the Vaults on turn 115755. (Vault:8) 09:21:03 Whew, thought I was going crazy there, thanks - at the very least, for the confirmation 09:21:20 but have you used any decks? 09:21:38 syllogism, in that time frame? maybe a plain one. 09:21:42 Whatever it was happened between the Vault:8 visit and the rune in those 2k turns 09:21:53 !lm cryptic -2 -tv:<0:>$ 09:21:53 2835. Cryptic, XL24 DSEn, T:115755 (milestone) requested for FooTV. 09:21:59 Probably a deck shuffle 09:22:02 ah, I definitely didn't use any decks in the V:8 that I recall. 09:24:47 ah, I did. I remember this 09:24:51 there's a deck in this room 09:25:25