00:00:52 -!- Zao has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:04:39 -!- Zao_ has quit [Changing host] 00:04:39 -!- Zao_ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:04:43 -!- Zao_ is now known as Zao 01:01:42 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 01:37:48 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:06 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:32:35 -!- bhaak has quit [Quit: leaving] 02:33:08 -!- bhaak has joined ##crawl-dev 02:35:37 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:14:02 KiloByte: cheers for doing show_player_species 03:25:47 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:30:47 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 03:57:05 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:03:22 tiles autoexclusions could look a bit subtler 04:09:22 also &D should show the exact monster tile/glyph and shouldn't waken monsters 04:10:14 syllogism: Actually, exclusions could look subtler. 04:21:59 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: leaving] 04:22:08 03kilobyte * r954f0f8e80a2 10/crawl-ref/source/ (rltiles/dc-mon.txt rltiles/dc-mon/dwarf.png tilepick.cc): Makeshift dwarf tiles for 0.7 (coolio, edited from NetHack) 04:28:52 due: yes 04:34:41 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 04:36:37 Make exclusions on tiles look subtler (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1956) by syllogism 04:37:15 syllogism: you play tiles? 04:37:35 I always put you in the console-only drawer. 04:38:32 I don't, but compiled it to see the new tiles and noticed the exclusions looked pretty ugly on Mu's sprint 04:38:43 doesn't help like one quarter of it gets autoexcluded :P 04:38:49 :) 04:39:04 Yes, Mu is really fond of clouds... I like it. 04:39:29 the minimap is nice for sprint 04:39:44 * dpeg has never seen the minimap. 04:41:58 I'd post a screenshot, but it's a secret map ;( 04:42:07 haha :) 04:42:43 syllogism: did you play the most recent version a bit? It's better, I guess. Do you think it's good enough to used as is (in case we're not able to come up with more changes)? 04:43:06 Mu is still working on it, he is overhauling lair next 04:43:12 but yes, should be harder/better now 04:44:05 great 04:44:59 the statues don't have tiles though 04:50:17 it would be nice if the sprint piety gain rates could be fixed before the tourney, but that doesn't look likely 04:51:08 syllogism: it shouldn't be too hard... there must be a place where piety is globally modified. Would need a switch for the various gods at this place. 04:51:36 I doubt there is :P 04:52:30 !seen greensnark 04:52:30 I last saw greensnark at Mon Jul 12 16:33:33 2010 UTC (17h 18m 57s ago) saying TGWi: The page says so, doesnt it on ##crawl. 04:53:19 well, I suppose the sprint function 04:53:35 int sprint_modify_piety(int piety) 04:53:35 { 04:53:35 return piety * 9; 04:53:35 } 04:58:23 @?? black sheep 04:58:23 unknown monster: "black sheep" 04:59:50 Major sprint piety changes won't go into 0.7 04:59:50 greensnark: You have 3 messages. Use !messages to read them. 05:00:02 Also I'm still pretty busy, but I may have free time later in the evening 05:08:34 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:32:08 -!- Poor_Yurik has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41:06 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 05:49:48 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:21 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:03:58 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:58 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 06:18:43 The green snark has spoken! 06:18:46 And I wasn't here. 06:18:52 * dpeg slaps himself with a trout. 06:19:39 h 06:19:54 Erm, hi. 06:20:19 ……···::: 06:20:27 Morse code? 06:20:33 «-.-» 06:20:42 Hi due! :) 06:21:27 !tell enne Red wine is acidic! 06:21:28 due: OK, I'll let enne know. 06:23:35 due: White wine is not? 06:25:36 Oh, it is not a debate as to whether or not it is acidic, just we were discussing acidic flavours. 06:51:44 * elly greensnarks dpeg absentmindedly 06:52:51 * due doyly raxes elly. 06:52:56 bugger 06:53:02 should've been duely raxes elly. 06:53:15 -!- due is now known as duely 06:53:34 * duely raxes elly 06:54:23 playful puppies :P 06:54:53 I'm not sure I want to keep this name. 06:56:33 http://digitalmancompetition.wordpress.com/ 06:56:40 any reason to advertise this on ##crawl? 06:57:19 Are we even in? 06:57:41 yes, I got a mail 06:57:50 Ah 06:58:03 everyone got: by Sam Costner to c-r-d, but it's some weeks ago 06:58:11 Ohh, right 06:58:15 "Rally your troops and I'll hope to see you there. 06:58:20 It doesn't look like we're even in the running, I think? 06:58:29 I do't care, I know we're the best :D 06:58:34 perhaps becyause no one replied? 07:04:39 it's also a bit strange. the selection looks more like an "open source video game development competition" 07:04:52 I think it is? 07:05:01 More "open source video game popularity contest" 07:05:03 a lot of the usual "would be found on any linux game distro" suspects 07:05:59 update windows builds 07:06:02 I haven't read the "This first iteration of the Digital Man focuses on determining the best open source games on the web" line last time I was on that site 07:07:18 does someone have a clue about a decent Windows installer that can be cross-built? Like NSIS? 07:07:32 I'd pull all my weight in a "best roguelike" competition, stupid as it is (the competition and my reaction). But I have no time to rally troops for random stuff :) 07:07:46 I've used InnoSetup before, it can be used for an automated build but only with Wine 07:08:43 KiloByte: what for? do you release dev-versions with installers? 07:09:29 our current packages are useless for most computer users of today 07:10:04 "unpack this zip file" is waaay above the skills of >90% of people... 07:10:26 isn't it just double-click? 07:10:27 of course, it's another question if we want players of that kind 07:10:56 dpeg wants to win the popularity contest, so you need also stupid and computer-unsavvy users :) 07:11:18 no, you need to drag the files to some place, recognize the place, and know how to enter that dir and that you need to click on .exe 07:11:30 * bhaak tries to simulate a stupid user and downloads crawl 07:11:48 and since Windows hides extensions, it's just a random icon so there is even no indication what to click on 07:12:57 okay, here on win xp, after klicking on the downloaded file, I get the zip content shown 07:13:32 but only a directory named "crawl_tiles-0.6.0-0" that's unusual for win32 07:13:54 stupid user then tries to enter the folder and run it from within the zip 07:14:00 klicking on it and starting the crawl.exe I get a warning popup that one might to have to extract everything 07:14:09 ortoslon: me stupid user mode 07:14:27 after klicking on "extract all" I get again a folder with "crawl_tiles-0.6.0-0" 07:14:40 and then open that folder and clicking crawl.exe it finally starts 07:15:42 so, if the user is persistent enough, it will work. 07:16:00 by "crawl.exe", you mean a random icon named "crawl", not looking any different from any other file nearby. By default, there's no ".exe" :( 07:16:23 any other game will just give them an icon to click 07:16:43 crawl's pot icon looks rather different 07:16:45 IMO: zip < installer < one_big_executable 07:16:54 heck, a vast majority of users won't even be able to find a Start menu entry... an icon has to be placed on the desktop 07:17:51 ortoslon: in the unextracted zip file, you only get the cmd/batch-like icon, in the extracted zip you have the pot-thingy 07:17:58 ah 07:19:38 also, a zip file is nearly twice as big as solid lzma (both InnoSetup and NSIS use that by default) 07:20:13 perhaps we could just ship both tiles and console exes in the installer and thus have only a single package 07:20:29 I think I refer again to my suggestion of a customized virtualbox executable :) 07:21:19 drop win support 07:21:22 that would be probably too slow, I guess :( 07:23:10 Have you guys heard of "NetTiles"? Supposely you can play crawl tiles online O_o 07:23:11 * ortoslon gasps every time dpeg says that 07:23:54 now that the mac version gets regularly built who needs windows? 07:24:31 0.8 changelog: "Removed Halfling. Removed Priest. Removed Windows." 07:24:37 <3 07:24:43 No removing halflings, though. 07:24:43 Just a little joke on the side :) 07:24:53 I've grown attached to them 07:24:58 KiloByte: do you know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiX ? although I don't think it is better suited for cross-building 07:26:13 not only Windows-only but also requires .NET 07:26:28 mono :) 07:26:29 so it's a 300MB+ download for anyone on a semi-sane version of Windows 07:27:04 (Vista and 7 include that already, but are beyond useless) 07:27:51 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_installation_software#Cross-platform 07:28:14 InstallJammer and lzPack would qualify, although lzPack needs java 07:29:05 NSIS looks the most promising, as it has good support for cross-building, but after spending half an hour reading its docs I see it lacks simplicity 07:29:24 java? For building or installation? 07:29:53 also for installation 07:30:22 starts at "$2799"? 07:30:31 Jesus, wow. 07:30:42 what the holy excrement...??? 07:30:44 which one of the devs is sourceforge support? 07:31:07 sf still server 0.6.0 files as default downloads 07:31:14 s/server/serves 07:31:45 (and this you can't blame on sf) 07:31:59 SF sucks anus 07:32:25 duely: maybe, but this is not sf's fault :) 07:34:13 !tell Enne Have you heard of "NetTiles"? According to the crawl wiki it allows tiles online play. Is this something that could be updated and used? Link is at the very bottom of this link in the news section http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=CrawlWiki 07:34:14 purge: OK, I'll let Enne know. 07:36:04 purge: I've heard of it 07:36:09 I haven't seen its developer online recently though 07:36:23 I couldn't use it as it required a ridiculously massive screen size 07:37:01 the author is around here somewhere, forgot who 07:37:16 Begins with L? 07:41:19 duely: huh, you can just edit tile_options 07:42:52 minimap and inventory aren't working though 07:44:52 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 07:46:02 purge: https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:clientserver&s[]=nettiles 07:46:43 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:46:53 syllogism: I asked, my screen is too small 07:47:05 syllogism: Developer reckoned it needed at leqast a thousand pixels width 07:47:06 Keskitalo: please update windows builds 07:47:15 duely: Please update windows builds 07:47:18 that's a really small screen then :P 07:47:35 duely: old netbook or old CRT? 07:47:54 bhaak: notepad :P 07:48:14 dpeg: sad but true. Reality bites! :) 07:48:49 !coffee 07:48:49 * Henzell hands greensnark a pot of cappuccino, brewed by Cerebov. 07:49:01 That should be hot. 07:49:35 Unix line endings in text files of windows version (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1957) by bhaak 07:51:05 If I were after usability points, I'd also report that the content of README.txt and README.pdf differs :) 07:51:23 * dpeg slaps bhaak with a rainbow trout. 07:51:57 "thousand pixels"? 07:52:22 whoever dares to require more than 800x480 will be slapped with a thoroughly rotten trout 07:53:25 (I bought a N900, it didn't arrive yet, but don't expect it to be crawl-free) 07:53:54 although, unlike iJunk, I heard it's just a matter of installing normal Debian arm packages without even recompiling or anything 07:54:17 but iJunk has the smoother user experience :) 07:54:18 seems to work with 800x480 07:56:21 except that you can't run any programs which didn't pay for the turtlenecked Führer's blessing 07:57:40 http://i40.tinypic.com/eve0jb.jpg 07:58:00 haha that line end stuff is really annoying if you're a shit windows idiot like me 07:58:07 i end up opening the files in wordpad, saving them, and then opening them again in notepad 07:58:22 Mu_: but it's easier to edit vaults in wordpad :) 07:58:25 at least you know the workaround 07:58:33 should have an ingame editor :P 07:58:39 export as .des 07:59:11 and how can you do subvaults, shuffles or lua that way? 07:59:15 FR: vim syntax highlighting for .des files 07:59:25 bhaak: "oh wait" ? 08:00:17 Keskitalo: ? 08:00:17 dpeg: i installed notepad++ anyway now that i am commiting things since it stopped me producing those weird trailing spaces :p 08:00:22 by which I mean there is one alreay :) 08:00:54 Keskitalo: oh 08:00:56 notepad++ at least has same support for newlines 08:01:01 Only wimps need colours when making maps =) 08:01:11 o/ 08:01:27 it's always the same with those open source projects. they never advertise their killer features properly 08:01:32 * Keskitalo bravely confesses wimpdom 08:01:36 Hey, who are you calling a wimp 08:01:41 * greensnark slaps dpeg with a trout. 08:01:56 A rainbow trout? 08:02:04 Any colour you wish 08:02:04 FR: ingame tiles-based map editor 08:02:04 I prefer a black/white trout. 08:02:14 I prefer red-black trouts 08:02:23 greensnark: is my Jiyva idea feasible? 08:02:28 dpeg: Sounds good 08:02:31 What about points? 08:02:32 cool 08:02:36 Seems to be worth giving points 08:02:44 Did we assign points for banners before? 08:02:58 Nemelex, and some of the rune banners like discovered language 08:03:22 elliptic suggested that Kiku banner be changed to win-without-entering-Lair 08:03:28 Ooh, nice. 08:03:33 Which has the advantage of being very easy to detect without new milestones 08:03:36 yes, I am not happy about the current Kiku banner 08:03:45 Also we need a new Beogh banner 08:03:55 You lose the win, so some points would be okay for the Jiyva banner. 08:04:00 Last year's Beogh banner was pretty weak 08:04:22 Beogh: You're in a clan with more than N points? 08:04:31 Sif's is damn artificial too 08:04:32 Banner for first place clan 08:04:43 greensnark: I know, I suggested a replacement :) 08:04:49 FR: rename your *.des files so the syntax highlighting doesn't interfere with the one from nethack's *.des files 08:05:04 bhaak: What is nethack? 08:05:06 * dpeg slaps bhaak with a vorpal trout. 08:05:23 hmm, vorpal trout 08:05:25 bhaak keeps talking about nethack, you would almost assume something with that name exists 08:05:45 vaporware 08:05:50 bhaak: As far as I know, Crawl .des syntax highlighting predates NetHack's 08:05:59 Well, truth to be told, there _is_ UnNethack, AntiNethack and -Nethack. But Nethack? Never heard of that. 08:06:17 I'm pretty sure paxed did the vim + emacs work for NH .des after Crawl's .des 08:06:33 Admittedly paxed's stuff is more professional, but hey, it was NH, he could take his time :) 08:06:34 have you played the recent Shoot First? it's a roguelike shmup 08:06:43 identify files by content instead of relying on DOSisms like file extensions :P 08:06:56 i saw it on tigsource 08:07:27 greensnark: got to go. So ^ for my Beogh banner idea. N=200 could be interesting 08:07:32 i played it for a little and enjoyed it but quit because i can't stand the scanline effect 08:07:46 200 points sounds awfully easy :P 08:07:55 Mu_: add some enemies with large shields of reflection :P 08:08:17 naga warriors in snake maybe 08:08:19 !tell due Can you help with the new tourney banner images? All you need to do is slave-drive one of our unlucky artists to update them for 2010 08:08:19 greensnark: OK, I'll let due know. 08:08:27 dancing shields of reflection *shudder* 08:08:40 @?? dancing weapon ; large shield ego:reflection 08:08:40 Unexpected failure generating monster for dancing weapon ; large shield ego:reflection 08:08:43 :( 08:08:47 Shoot First? I'll try it :3 08:08:51 greensnark: I'm not sure you are right. nhdes.vim 20061119 08:09:08 bhaak: Yeah, that postdates crawl afaik 08:09:19 I wrote the Crawl thing when writing the level compiler 08:09:21 greensnark: 1d0f57cbceb778139ca215cc4fcfd1584951f6dd is from 20061122 08:09:51 bhaak: That's a merge commit 08:10:03 The original work is earlier, I think on the stone_soup branch 08:10:28 I checked for NH .des highlighter that I could rip off when doing the Crawl .des format :P 08:10:32 greensnark: git blame also doesn't show anything earlier? 08:10:33 There was none :P 08:10:33 hmm... does current 0.7 build on Windows at all? I see the branch is missing quite a few win32 fixes, including even the rename() overwrite bug 08:10:56 i compiled it earlier 08:11:08 I have not taken the two-stage save at all for 0.7 08:11:21 greensnark: ah 08:11:22 bhaak: f141d733ebaa6d458bfc400a4b0b65991a8a7b75 08:11:32 That is the commit id for the level compiler 08:11:47 It's on the defunct stone_soup branch 08:12:49 greensnark: did you update the .vim when you added desc? 08:12:55 No 08:13:03 >:0 08:13:06 greensnark: ah, 2006-11-06. Is that normal that git blame doesn't show the correct dates or did you screw up? 08:13:09 And why are you skulking under an alt nick 08:13:16 greensnark: so I coulld 08:13:19 * duely raxes elly 08:13:26 bhaak: It's a svn merge which conveniently does not keep history 08:13:29 Use three nicknames to form a proper, aceptable sentence! 08:13:43 Duely is an adjective, rax is a verb, and elly is the object of the sentence. 08:13:45 Originally the crawl-ref project had a stone_soup branch where all work happened 08:13:47 greensnark: ic 08:14:03 Then when it looked like stone_soup was beginning to look good we merged into trunk and tossed the stone_soup branch 08:14:14 All this was back in the svn days, of course 08:14:18 git is pretty recent 08:14:19 while working on the nethack git archive I saw that git isn't as easy going with keeping history as it should 08:14:21 :o svn! EVIL! 08:15:14 although git blame usually worked fine, git log may fail horribly (even with proper options) if you rename/move files 08:16:50 duely: I thought the adjective form was "duly?" 08:16:59 rax! 08:17:03 Yo. 08:17:14 I like the Jiyva goal. It's awesome. 08:17:23 What is the Jiyva goal? 08:17:34 rax: This is true. 08:17:35 -!- duely is now known as due 08:17:42 rax, dpeg: elliptic wanted to keep the points for highest scoring game 08:17:50 Since it rewards all-rune speedruns 08:17:56 Which no other trophy covers if that's removed 08:18:00 I actually kinda like the highest scoring game too honestly. 08:18:07 Let's keep it? 08:18:15 It's already coded and all :) 08:19:08 OK! 08:20:13 greensnark: the emacs nethack .des file mode i did from scratch; for the vim mode i looked into the crawl vim mode... 08:20:29 paxed: Oh ok, it looked a lot classier than mine :P 08:20:48 greensnark: i said i looked into it, i didn't say i used it :P 08:21:18 i also looked how other vim modes did stuff, but i don't use vim myself, so ... :P 08:21:39 sometimes it's best to see an example of how not to do it 08:23:07 I think I just looked at the other vim modes and hacked something together 08:23:28 I was rather disappointed that NH didn't already have something I could rip off :P 08:23:34 greensnark: are the cao scoring scripts online somewhere? 08:29:43 Let me find the link 08:31:13 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/tourney09/code/ 08:31:24 It's the same code for this year as well 08:31:28 + changes 08:35:03 thanks 08:35:13 does that also generate the usual /scoring/*.html 08:35:16 ? 08:43:09 No, the scoring scripts are separate 08:43:42 http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/code/ 08:44:08 Common ancestry though, the scoring scripts are just modified versions of the tourney scoring code 08:44:19 Quite different now, however 08:52:50 !lm * place=Ossuary s=oplace 08:52:50 1938 milestones for * (place=Ossuary): 1553x Ossuary, 118x D:4, 103x D:5, 87x D:6, 48x D:7, 29x D:8 08:52:59 !lm * place=bailey s=oplace 08:53:00 1406 milestones for * (place=bailey): 1104x Bailey, 61x D:7, 50x D:8, 34x D:9, 21x D:10, 19x D:11, 15x Orc:3, 13x Orc:4, 12x D:12, 12x Orc:2, 12x D:14, 11x Orc:1, 9x D:13, 8x D:16, 6x D:15, 3x Lair:5, 3x Tomb:2, 2x Elf:5, 1x Zot:2, 1x D:25, 1x Zot:3, 1x Lair:3, 1x Vault:6, 1x Snake:1, 1x D:23, 1x D:17, 1x D:22, 1x Hell, 1x D:20 08:57:45 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 08:58:11 Enne: Great post on tiles :) 08:58:29 Thanks for the suggestion to write one, greensnark. :) 08:58:30 Enne: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 08:58:36 !messages 08:58:36 Morning Enne! 08:58:36 (1/2) due said (2h 37m 8s ago): Red wine is acidic! 08:58:36 due: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 08:58:40 I was wondering who these "one of those backwards, curmudgeonly console players" are though :) 08:58:40 !messages 08:58:40 (1/1) greensnark said (50m 21s ago): Can you help with the new tourney banner images? All you need to do is slave-drive one of our unlucky artists to update them for 2010 08:58:51 !messages 08:58:51 (1/1) purge said (1h 24m 37s ago): Have you heard of "NetTiles"? According to the crawl wiki it allows tiles online play. Is this something that could be updated and used? Link is at the very bottom of this link in the news section http://crawl.chaosforge.org/index.php?title=CrawlWiki 08:59:05 greensnark: Sure. 08:59:09 <3 08:59:13 None are present at the minute. 08:59:30 Can you email me something? I'm off to bed soon and tomorrow is a busy day. 08:59:39 Ok, will do 08:59:47 Thanks! 09:00:29 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 09:04:07 what's the berserk needle ego named for placing in a vault 09:04:11 frenzy 09:04:17 sprint_mu.des:464: No such ego as: frenzy 09:04:21 hm 09:04:34 bugger, I may have messed up with the ego parser 09:05:06 It's called wrath, I think 09:05:13 really? 09:05:13 Oh, that's holy wrath? 09:05:19 I honestly don't remember 09:05:20 and I coded it 09:05:32 "wrath" corresponds to SPSML_RAGE 09:05:43 ye it's wrath 09:05:43 ty 09:05:55 eh 09:06:06 ??frency 09:06:06 I don't have a page labeled frency in my learndb. 09:06:08 ??frenzy 09:06:08 I don't have a page labeled frenzy in my learndb. 09:06:14 I give up on my sanity :) 09:06:28 they are frenzy ingame, sure 09:06:36 go me for game/code disparity 09:06:37 The item name is frenzy, yep 09:06:46 Naughty due 09:07:02 * due runs away before ccan be held accountable for crimes. 09:07:11 * greensnark staples due to the channel. 09:07:47 The hill giant reflects the +0 needle of frenzy off its runed large shield! 09:07:47 The +0 needle of frenzy hits you! 09:07:49 <3 09:09:25 ok pushed new lair subvault 09:09:29 might do snake later 09:09:53 sprint not actual lair 09:10:34 I like how players don't get to resist the new needle brands 09:16:38 is monster HD used for the reflection check? 09:17:14 appears to be 09:17:22 @?? naga warrior 09:17:22 naga warrior (02N) | Speed: 8 (act: 80%) | HD: 10 | Health: 92-108 | AC/EV: 6/10 | Damage: 28 | Flags: see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(80), 03poison | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 748 | Sp: poison splash (d16). 09:20:00 -!- Moriasc has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.6/20100625231939]] 09:20:46 A dancing weapon, wearing a crystal plate mail 09:23:41 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:25:20 hey, dancing weapon ; knife unrand:spriggans_knife works 09:27:13 dancing weapon spells:crystal_spear ; spear unrand:crystal_spear 09:33:24 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:33:43 A crystal spear (resting, mindless) 09:34:51 couldn't figure out what's the correct syntax for the spell though :P 09:38:34 @The_weapon@ goes "Da-da-da-dum". 09:38:52 spells:lehudib's_crystal_spear ? i think that's what worked for -arena 09:39:15 thought i tried that, but it does work 10:06:43 Hello hello 10:06:58 !tell dpeg Alright, I'll keep that in mind while cleaning house. 10:06:58 Cryp71c: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 10:15:56 I see the high scores are back in? So be it. 10:15:56 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:16:49 bhaak: "sometimes it's best to see an example of how not to do it" <-- This is how we design Crawl after having seen a bit of Nethack. 10:18:49 Cryp71c: hi! Just in. No time for taekwondo today :( 10:20:57 ??nethack[4] 10:20:57 nethack[4/4]: Design principle 1: If in doubt, do it unlike Nethack and D&D. 10:21:03 I know 11:13:08 -!- Vandal has quit [] 11:16:45 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:18:50 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 11:24:01 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne] 11:27:42 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 11:45:42 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:45:53 Boo! 11:47:05 !coffee dpeg` 11:47:05 * Henzell hands dpeg a mug of black coffee, brewed by Sigmund. 11:47:38 I'll take anything from Sigmund! 11:47:43 Even black coffee. 11:48:00 No cats were involved in making that coffee 11:48:28 Pity that 11:48:34 * syllogism drinking green lemon tea 11:48:53 * greensnark is done with work for today. 11:48:56 \o/ 11:48:58 yay 11:49:09 Sometimes, when I urgently need my cat fix, I'll go to the petting zoo. 11:49:23 dpeg: KiloByte wants to add felidae to Crawl 11:49:48 We thought rebranding them might help to avoid triggering your notorious cat allergy 11:50:18 * dpeg is itching already. 11:51:55 Ocelots? 11:52:04 Not even ocelots? 11:52:11 i am also allergic to cats + mammals in general 11:52:24 despite this i accidentally have a pet cat 11:52:26 What about caracal 11:52:43 Mu_: also to homo sapiens? 11:52:48 tiggers 11:53:19 maybe 11:56:32 dpeg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caracal_kitten.jpg 11:56:58 They look... degenerated. 11:57:18 ! 11:58:10 Are they tasty? 11:58:10 it's a rakshasa 11:58:24 * dpeg could like a cat burger now. 11:58:32 dpeg: I wouldn't know :P 12:05:04 -!- Poor_Yurik has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:26 KiloByte: That win32 %ld crash was why those MinGW builds were crashing? 12:05:34 yeah 12:05:49 somehow old versions of gcc don't trigger that, new do 12:05:57 Nice find 12:06:21 it's strange, we have %ld in other places where it works 12:06:30 it was the only %8ld, though 12:06:59 actually, it's the only %ld which had subsequent arguments after them, too 12:11:00 screw it, I pushed the cats branch to sf. Pussyfooting is of no use. 12:11:25 "felids" or not, it's easier to discuss with some real code; even if it ends getting thrown away 12:11:25 You could have pushed it right away 12:11:33 As long as it's not on master nobody screams 12:11:51 just be ware of bugs, I didn't test it well after the conflict-fest merge 12:12:34 03due 07stone_soup-0.7 * r621f8a5b2c91 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/descript/monsters.txt: Fix Mennas's description. 12:12:36 03due 07stone_soup-0.7 * rf6175ee9c429 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc itemname.cc player-equip.cc player.cc spells3.cc): Sprint tweaks: teleportation. 12:12:38 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r20c2efaad0b8 10/crawl-ref/source/stairs.cc: Remove some impossible to trigger code. 12:12:39