00:06:39 -!- Poor_Yurik has joined ##crawl-dev 00:07:04 o/ 00:08:22 -!- kofrad has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 00:08:39 -!- kofrad has joined ##crawl-dev 00:35:20 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 01:15:49 -!- rax has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 01:16:47 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 01:50:58 KiloByte: thanks for the sprint piety thing! 02:04:00 -!- Fangorn has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 02:09:38 -!- Fangorn has joined ##crawl-dev 02:18:23 -!- mspang has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:18:27 -!- mspang has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:59 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 02:50:43 hmm 02:51:04 Baleful Levitation 02:51:30 Suspends a target in midair, preventing it from walking. Air/Ench 02:57:52 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 03:15:45 by: sadly, it's incomplete -- I wonder what to do with activities that give you direct response about the piety actually gained (as opposed only to the level of the trigger) 03:25:35 haven't looked in detail, but would "bool gain_piety" not work? 03:25:53 or int, even 03:33:28 in sprint, you will always gain partial piety 03:33:57 like, when the chance is 40%, you always gain 3 or 4, never 0 or 9 03:44:56 Is there a problem with always giving the piety feedback in that case 03:45:06 I was never a big fan of giving piety feedback anyway 03:45:24 Because it exposes an implementation detail that was not meant to be exposed 03:45:50 (faking fractional piety gain by x_chance_in_y was an implementation detail) 03:46:45 Or we could just, oh, switch to double 03:47:06 2^-53 relative error isn't enough to care, machines without FPUs are old 03:47:50 I wouldn't mind! 03:57:50 you seldom see floating point arithmetic in roguelikes 03:58:36 I suspect that has to do with them being roguelikes and rogue having been developed for a sucky computer 03:58:45 doomrl uses floats. a lot. 03:58:59 (also, fpc is the worst optimizer ever) 04:04:51 great, sourceforge's greylisting is not even caching its results... how utterly stupid 04:05:44 Paul Du Bois != MySQL Paul Du Bois. 04:05:48 * due files this for later. 04:06:38 Why is there such waffle about square LOS? 04:06:57 Are there pancakes too 04:07:03 With maple syrup maybe 04:07:18 No, people going 'omg omg omg I want square los all these other people agree that we should hav eit so we shouldd have it'. 04:07:33 As far as I can see, we have a few devs for and a few devs against and no real discussion beyond that. 04:07:44 Also (22) according to my inbox. Blech. 04:07:56 doooh.. stupid me... wrong sender address :-$ 04:08:06 Napkin: hehehe 04:08:23 do a compromise. octagonal LOS 04:08:26 Napkin's real name is crawl-ref-discuss, Marc Thoben is just a front 04:08:43 greensnark: Wow! Cool. 04:08:43 screw octagons. Hypercube LOS! 04:08:45 well, sf's cache actually works :) 04:08:49 Toroidal LOS 04:08:52 maybe round from one side and square from other side? 04:08:54 ssshh! ;-P 04:09:10 due: I want Crawl switched to L1 LOS 04:09:26 L1 LOS? 04:09:46 diamond, right? 04:09:58 yes 04:10:28 Ahh. 04:10:34 FR: LOS type configurable in .crawlrc 04:10:41 FR: no LOS. 04:10:43 (Lebesgue spaces should be required study for all roguelike devs, imo) 04:19:13 maybe a lecture on lebesgue spaces on the next irdc then? 04:20:13 though jeff lait's talk from the first irdc touched on different types of los 04:20:34 Speaking of Jeffs, I wonder if Jeff will play this tourney. 04:23:11 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:24:34 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 04:32:17 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:22:33 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:27:12 I think Spring really needs some door restricts. 05:35:38 the first one? 05:35:47 Spring or Sprint? :P 05:36:10 First one. 05:36:11 I've been dying a loit. 05:37:41 it's mostly about randomly spawned wandering monsters 05:39:32 The centaur warriors suddenly started waandering around opening doors. 05:41:25 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:56:34 you're supposed to be dying a lot in sprint 05:58:06 although it seems to be easier in 0.7, I still die constantly in sprint 06:06:23 -!- Enne has quit [*.net *.split] 06:06:23 -!- joosa has quit [*.net *.split] 06:06:23 -!- RjY has quit [*.net *.split] 06:07:47 !gamesby bhaak Sprint 06:07:47 bhaak has played 190 games, between 20100228 and 20100707, won 0, high score 6026, total score 67943, total turns 18629, total time 5:31:24. 06:07:54 !gamesby bhaak 06:07:54 bhaak has played 187 games, between 20090814 and 20100518, won 0, high score 16926, total score 101881, total turns 406465, total time 40:46:47. 06:08:03 !gamesby . Sprint 06:08:03 greensnark has played 27 games, between 20100301 and 20100320, won 0, high score 6727, total score 9695, total turns 4232, total time 0:45:02. 06:08:10 bhaak: You're pretty close to my score :) 06:08:29 :) 06:09:29 about sprints in maps with no runes -- what about faking urune being 1 more? 06:09:34 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:34 -!- joosa has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:34 -!- RjY has joined ##crawl-dev 06:10:09 this would of course break old scores, but no one really cares about scores in trunk 06:14:03 !hs * Sprint 06:14:04 27393. tinymouse the Brawler (L12 TrBe), worshipper of Trog, escaped with the Orb!. on 2010-03-04, with 293246 points after 6135 turns and 1:53:59. 06:14:22 !lg * Sprint win min=sc 06:14:23 54. casmith789 the Grappler (L8 TrCK), worshipper of Lugonu, escaped with the Orb!. on 2010-06-30, with 252387 points after 551 turns and 0:03:01. 06:14:35 Yes, why not 06:14:54 Also can you fix the "escaped with the Orb!." punctuation? :) 06:16:34 a 6k turns game got a significantly better score than a 500 turn one 06:17:05 only the urune part gives any heed to the time taken 06:17:08 That'll be fixed by the proposed change, right 06:17:33 We should also fix that for the main game, obviously 06:17:36 it may get sky-high though, the formula doesn't expect 500 turn games 06:18:20 KiloByte: Add 33k to turns for Sprint :P 06:18:50 well, in a normal game you're not supposed to have an urune of 0 -- those who don't know they're supposed to lug the runes excluded 06:19:04 Some players don't bother with runes 06:19:19 And we still want to distinguish between such cases as 400k turns and at 40k turns 06:19:56 there's that proposal to count runes found rather than runes actually carried 06:20:19 I'd prefer to keep using carried runes 06:20:37 I got -2146288222 score in wizmode :P 06:20:51 Freeing up inventory slots is not good given that the game is moving towards the disgustingly easy 06:21:02 ??score 06:21:02 new score[1/2]: [your gold + modified xp + value of inventory (winners only) + 1000*(different runes + 2)^2 (winners only) + 6,250,000,000*(different runes^2)/turns (winners only)] 06:21:24 syllogism: I'm sure that score adequately describes your gameplay :P 06:21:34 yes 06:22:22 scaling up sprint turns for score purposes sounds good 06:23:03 greensnark: you never lose more than 5 slots for runes except for the actual way up 06:23:10 That's fine 06:23:10 1 rune + orb in 500 turns is only 12m or so 06:23:43 KiloByte: instead of increasing urune, how about (different runes^2 + 1) in that part of the formula? 06:24:06 that would mean less signifcant score changes for normal games 06:24:15 That's a good idea 06:24:48 I was thinking to change scoring for sprint only, to keep old and new scores comparable 06:25:08 I think this is a good time to fix the general case of urune=0 though 06:25:12 and there are no "old" scores for sprint, since trunk rules have changed so wildly 06:25:56 with urune=0 in a normal game you're totally screwed score-wise already 06:26:06 Yes, but that's not the point 06:26:14 The point is that we don't consider turns at all once urune=0 06:26:16 !hs * ktyp=winning urune=0 06:26:17 53. uru the Farming Swordmaster (L27 DSFi), worshipper of Okawaru, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2008-02-12, with 2712285 points after 247950 turns and 32:21:54. 06:26:27 And we really should 06:26:39 !hs * ktyp=winning urune=0 x=cv 06:26:39 53. [cv=0.4-a] uru the Farming Swordmaster (L27 DSFi), worshipper of Okawaru, escaped with the Orb and 15 runes on 2008-02-12, with 2712285 points after 247950 turns and 32:21:54. 06:26:49 !hs * ktyp=winning urune=0 cv>=0.5 06:26:49 23. zigrobin the Shapeless Elf (L27 SEEE), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, escaped with the Orb!. on 2009-10-09, with 1113719 points after 187161 turns and 14:31:46. 06:26:51 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:27:19 !hs * ktyp=winning urune=1 cv>=0.5 06:27:20 3. Gaara the Sorcerer (L27 DEEE), worshipper of Sif Muna, escaped with the Orb and 1 rune on 2010-02-07, with 920881 points after 120993 turns and 29:07:09. 06:27:23 !log zigrobin ktyp=winning urune=0 cv>=0.5 char=SEEE 06:27:24 1. zigrobin, XL27 SEEE, T:187161: http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/zigrobin/morgue-zigrobin-20091009-021536.txt 06:27:29 11 runer in 5k turns yields, 99999999 score, which is probably doable in mu's sprint 06:28:31 !lg * sprint ktyp=winning x=avg(turn) 06:28:31 54 games for * (ktyp=winning): avg(turn)=6844.76 06:28:43 !lg * ktyp=winning x=avg(turn) 06:28:43 2742 games for * (ktyp=winning): avg(turn)=186626.69 06:28:53 exclude TSO worshippers 06:28:54 Should filter out the mummy outliers 06:29:01 yes 06:29:15 !lg * sprint ktyp=winning god!=the shining one x=avg(turn) 06:29:15 42 games for * (ktyp=winning god!=the shining one): avg(turn)=4514.57 06:29:17 could you add median instead of avg? 06:29:36 Is there a MySQL function for that? :) 06:29:43 !lg * ktyp=winning race!=mu x=avg(turn) 06:29:43 2674 games for * (ktyp=winning race!=mu): avg(turn)=136279.05 06:32:30 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 06:46:40 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 07:01:37 what does it mean when git tells me a file i've changed 'needs merge' 07:01:54 it's just more sprint changes i want to push 07:02:38 You'v egot a conflict 07:02:40 hit git diff 07:02:45 then edit the files to resolve the conflict and commit them 07:09:59 i don't really get it, i just want the file to look like mine does 07:11:43 pester a git expert! 07:11:56 Mu_: You should examine the conflict; it usually means someone else has changed something close to where you made changes, and you don't want to nuke their changes 07:12:11 Just edit the file with conflicts and search for <<< to jump to the conflicts 07:12:36 If you simply use your file, whoever made the conflicting edit is going to be mad :) 07:12:43 the only <<< was near a MONS: declaration that i'd just changed 07:13:04 i think the only other person who changed the map was due adding the lock to zot and that's still in my file ?? 07:13:10 Pastebin the conflict block? 07:13:48 i already deleted the old part of it :O 07:14:16 If you were doing a rebase, do git rebase --abort 07:14:25 And try it again, but this time take a closer look :P 07:14:38 what will happen to my changes 07:14:47 You already committed your changes, right? 07:14:51 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 07:14:57 They'll still be there 07:15:01 i don't think i was doing a rebase 07:15:16 So what did you do that produced the merge conflict? 07:15:57 git stash apply 07:16:16 then the file was changed between the time you started working and applied 07:16:25 just resolve the conflict and gogo! 07:16:33 Ah, then you just need to git checkout -f and git stash apply again 07:16:45 You'll get back the conflict markers in all their glory 07:17:16 i should never have been allowed near this git stuff :P 07:18:19 if you have problems, just push the troublesome commits to a temp branch: git push : 07:19:28 and nothing you have committed in the short-term past is lost: there's a thing called the reflog, any commits younger than 90 days (default config) are never purged by garbage collection 07:19:45 I keep reading "x the Cleaver" as "x the Cleaner" 07:20:49 i pushed my changes on sprintgit i think it was ok 07:21:08 the only <<< === >>> stuff was around a mons block i had changed before dunno why it was a conflict 07:23:03 03kilobyte * rb69cef0dc5e8 10/crawl-ref/source/ (abl-show.cc godprayer.cc mon-death.cc spells1.cc): Smooth the remaining piety gains. Decouple the messages from actual piety gains. 07:33:15 -!- Enne has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:34:22 I'm uploading two mp4 of gource (with different "file-idle-times") now 07:34:36 anyone got some nice music to underlay? 07:36:43 Some Vangelis sounds like the ticket :P 07:38:33 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:44:08 dpeg's favorite music? 07:44:24 rammstein 'du hast' or tokyo hotel's 'schrei'? 07:47:09 Does Rammstein have any songs involving cats 07:47:17 Napkin: the default value gource's file-idle-times can be a bit disheartening depending on input. I ran it on an older checkout of a subversion repository and towards the end, one by one, every file popped out of existence :) 07:47:17 That would be dpeg's antifavourite 07:47:28 hehe 07:47:44 'single pussy'? 07:48:47 bhaak: i've ran two recordings - one with default of 60 and the other with --file-idle-time 999999999339134975 :D 07:49:25 did you slip on the keyboard or why that strange number? :) 07:49:36 additionally with --auto-skip-seconds 0.1 --seconds-per-day 0.5 --hilight-all-users 07:49:43 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 07:49:50 it was the highest number I could get :-O 07:50:05 I didn't know gource accepted floats as parameters :) 07:50:37 maybe max value of file-idle-time depends on the amount of raw-data, not sure 07:51:18 with these settings both videos are about 320mb of 1024x768 x264 video 07:54:22 greensnark: gretell doesn't seem to think changing the HD of very/ugly things does much of anything, will that mean it is so in game 07:54:48 Mu_: What stats are you looking at? 07:54:56 XP 07:55:01 ugly things are special, their HD may be overridden, let me check 07:56:07 ty 07:56:13 I thin kthey do 07:56:16 Check ghost.cc? 07:56:52 @??ugly thing hd:1 07:56:52 cyan ugly thing (10u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | Health: 35-57 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Damage: 1111(elec:8-11) | Res: 06magic(32), 10elec | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 342. 07:56:55 @??ugly thing 07:56:56 green ugly thing (03u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | Health: 34-56 | AC/EV: 3/10 | Damage: 1108(nasty poison) | Res: 06magic(32), 03poison | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 346. 07:57:09 @??rat hd:1 07:57:09 rat (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 1-4 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1. 07:57:14 @??rat hd:1 spells:blink 07:57:14 Unknown spell name: 'blink' in 'blink' 07:57:23 Hm. 07:57:35 @??rat name:your_mum 07:57:35 your mum (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 1-4 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1. 07:57:36 The @?? setup routine doesn't init spells right 07:57:38 <3. 07:57:46 Endless fun! 07:57:50 @??rat hd:0 07:57:50 rat (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 1-4 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1. 07:57:54 @??grinder hd:50 07:57:54 Grinder (025) | Speed: 10 | HD: 6 | Health: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Damage: 11 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(24), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 9463 | Sp: pain (d37), paralyse, blink, brain feed. 07:58:04 @??grinder hd:50 health:900 07:58:04 unknown monster: "grinder health:900" 07:58:08 @??rat hd:27 07:58:08 rat (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 1-4 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 484. 07:58:08 @??grinder hd:50 hp:900 07:58:09 Grinder (025) | Speed: 10 | HD: 6 | Health: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Damage: 11 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible, !sil | Res: 06magic(24), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 15000 | Sp: pain (d37), paralyse, blink, brain feed. 07:58:27 oh wow i didn't know changing hp adjust xp too 07:58:28 HD and Health are also currently accessed from the mon-data info, not from the overrides 07:58:40 greensnark: :) 07:59:25 Mu_: Yeah, ugly things destroy HD 07:59:42 does that mean they're immune to draining 07:59:49 No 08:00:01 too bad 08:00:03 But your hd:X setting will be overwritten by the ghost.cc code 08:00:07 ok 08:00:12 oh i see 08:00:19 Arguably that's a bug with the way hd: is handled 08:01:25 @?? orb of fire spells: 08:01:25 orb of fire (05*) | Speed: 20 | HD: 30 | Health: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | Flags: 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 04hellfire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++ | XP: 11717 | Sp: b.fire (3d40), polymorph other, fireball (3d43). 08:01:27 @?? orb of fire spells:. 08:01:27 orb of fire (05*) | Speed: 20 | HD: 30 | Health: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | Flags: 11non-living, see invisible, lev | Res: 13magic(immune), 04hellfire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++ | XP: 11717. 08:02:27 Wussy without spells! 08:02:36 @?? orb of fire hd:99 08:02:36 orb of fire (05*) | Speed: 20 | HD: 30 | Health: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | Flags: 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 04hellfire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++ | XP: 15000 | Sp: b.fire (3d116), polymorph other, fireball (3d125). 08:04:57 hd:999 jessica hurts 08:06:29 Damage: 24720551 08:13:24 -!- Enne has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:15:07 @?? orb of fire spells:ice_storm 08:15:07 orb of fire (05*) | Speed: 20 | HD: 30 | Health: 150 | AC/EV: 20/20 | Flags: 11non-living, see invisible, lev, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 04hellfire+++, 02cold, 10elec++, 09poison+++ | XP: 14518 | Sp: ice storm (10d20). 08:15:16 @?? rat hd:30 08:15:16 rat (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 30 | Health: 49-94 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 637. 08:15:26 @?? rat spells:ice_storm 08:15:27 rat (07r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 1-4 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Flags: !sil | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 1 | Sp: ice storm (10d2). 08:15:34 10d2 is rather cute 08:16:06 Pity the freezing clouds will be full-strength 08:17:21 @??ugly thing hd:30 08:17:21 red ugly thing (05u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | Health: 31-58 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Damage: 1104(fire:8-15) | Res: 06magic(32), 05fire | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 341. 08:17:23 "rat throws ice at you" 08:17:46 Yeah, I was never very fond of zelgadis' spellcasting messages :P 08:18:38 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 08:19:18 @??ugly thing hd:30 col:fiery 08:19:18 bad monster colour "fiery" in "ugly thing hd:30 col:fiery" 08:19:37 oh right, the monster silence spell is in. Do ghosts get it yet? Though I suppose it would mostly hinder them :P 08:19:44 Mu: you could add a monster with Silence :P 08:19:55 err wait, I've 0.8 trunk 08:19:55 @??ugly thing hd:30 col:etc_fire 08:19:55 bad monster colour "etc_fire" in "ugly thing hd:30 col:etc_fire" 08:19:57 Yeah, any monster with Silence had better have lots of hp and a good attack 08:20:00 is it in 0.7 08:20:10 @??ugly thing hd:30 col:fire 08:20:11 buggy ugly thing (05u) | Speed: 11 (act: 110%) | HD: 8 | Health: 28-59 | AC/EV: 2/10 | Damage: 13 | Res: 06magic(32) | Chunks: 06mutagenic | XP: 340. 08:20:14 Haha 08:20:18 hehe 08:20:32 @??rat hd:30 col:fire 08:20:32 rat (05r) | Speed: 10 | HD: 30 | Health: 49-94 | AC/EV: 1/10 | Damage: 3 | Res: 06magic(1) | XP: 637. 08:20:35 @?? statue spells:silence 08:20:35 statue (158) | Speed: 10 | HD: 8 | Health: 70 | AC/EV: 12/1 | Damage: 20 | Flags: 11non-living, !sil | Res: 13magic(immune), 05fire, 02cold, 10elec++, 03poison | XP: 561 | Sp: silence. 08:21:04 silence would be cool on an angel 08:21:09 !fight Boris v Agnes spells:silence 08:21:22 Bah 08:21:30 !fight Boris v Agnes spells:silence t:49 delay:0 08:21:34 Silence doesn't expire once you kill the monster :P 08:21:56 so you get permanently silenced tiles 08:21:57 Should it? :P 08:22:17 oh the duration is just very veyr long 08:22:21 syllogism: it should, killing it invalidates the agrid 08:22:43 Is this one of the changes I didn't cherry-pick 08:22:52 oh wait, killing a monster doesn't call the removal of enchantments 08:23:07 Nice 08:23:10 the duration was 2300 turns 08:23:11 pandelords with silence cheat :( 08:24:27 the real duration is pretty short though :( 08:25:18 if the monster isn't a spellcaster, it can just keep renewing it though :P 08:25:23 nice for statues 08:36:46 killing the daeva in sprint just then also left halo around -- I thought I remembered due fixing that at some point 08:37:33 I don't think I pulled that change 08:38:09 actually I killed an unseen horror using that halo :) 08:38:28 the halo thing is fixed in trunk 08:39:40 SA wants all the Lair branches enabled because Shoals is so hard :P 08:39:57 halo shouldn't linger after death, silence currently will (needs to be fixed) 08:40:00 !lg * cv=0.7-a place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals s=br 08:40:01 131 games for * (cv=0.7-a place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals): 54x Shoals, 41x Snake, 36x Swamp 08:40:05 \o/ 08:40:19 !lg * cv=0.6 place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals s=br 08:40:20 481 games for * (cv=0.6 place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals): 187x Snake, 151x Shoals, 143x Swamp 08:40:31 Heyy, 0.6 Shoals has overtaken Swamp <3 08:40:53 !lg * cv=0.7-a place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals s=avg(xl) 08:40:53 Bad arg 's=avg(xl)' - cannot summarise by avg(xl) 08:41:28 sa players generally aren't very good @ crawl :3 08:41:40 obviously that doesn't work :P 08:43:30 !lg * cv=0.6 place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals s=br x=avg(xl) 08:43:32 481 games for * (cv=0.6 place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals): 187x Snake [14.77], 151x Shoals [15.67], 143x Swamp [14.75] 08:43:37 !lg * cv=0.7-a place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals s=br x=avg(xl) 08:43:38 131 games for * (cv=0.7-a place=SNake|Swamp|Shoals): 54x Shoals [15.59], 41x Snake [14.63], 36x Swamp [14.58] 08:44:02 Looks like 0.7 Shoals is racking up the kills even with spoilsports going in later :P 08:44:35 that's because it's harder than swamp/snake 08:44:40 Yes! 08:45:32 !lm itsmu br.enter=shoals s=xl 08:45:33 7 milestones for itsmu (br.enter=shoals): 3x 23, 2x 25, 1x 20, 1x 26 08:45:44 sorry :p 08:45:55 Spoilsport :P 08:46:08 !lm . br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) 08:46:09 3 milestones for greensnark (br.enter=shoals): avg(xl)=13 08:46:13 !lm * br.enter=shoals x=avg(xl) 08:46:14 1248 milestones for * (br.enter=shoals): avg(xl)=15.96 08:47:00 !lm cv=0.7-a rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled s=br x=avg(xl) 08:47:01 2 milestones for syllogism (cv=0.7-a rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled): 1x Snake [25], 1x Swamp [16] 08:47:04 !lm * cv=0.7-a rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled s=br x=avg(xl) 08:47:04 437 milestones for * (cv=0.7-a rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled): 167x Swamp [18.08], 147x Snake [18.73], 123x Shoals [20.37] 08:48:10 !lm * cv=0.6 rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled s=br x=avg(xl) 08:48:11 1331 milestones for * (cv=0.6 rune=serpentine|decaying|barnacled): 497x Swamp [18.15], 434x Snake [18.96], 400x Shoals [20.3] 08:49:33 !lg * s=killer x=avg(xl) 08:49:36 699581 games for *: 273986x [1.86], 43181x a hobgoblin [1.43], 38545x a kobold [1.46], 23542x a gnoll [3.28], 19245x an orc wizard [4.65], 18373x Sigmund [3.37], 17483x an ogre [5.11], 17194x an orc priest [5.13], 16177x a snake [2.58], 15919x a goblin [1.55], 15041x an orc [4.19], 11987x a giant gecko [1.53], 11086x a centaur [5.71], 10777x a jackal [1.59], 10697x an orc warrior [7.63], 7464x a ... 08:50:11 pretty high for plain orcs :P 08:51:24 !hs * killer=orc 08:51:25 15041. Errol1 the Reanimator (L15 MuNe), worshipper of Sif Muna, slain by an orc (a +0,+1 orcish hand axe) on Orc:2 on 2010-01-04, with 93202 points after 35491 turns and 2:36:26. 08:51:29 :P 08:51:48 !hs * killer=orc -2 08:51:48 15040. sleeper3 the Blocker (L15 MDFi), worshipper of Okawaru, slain by an orc (a +0,+0 orcish falchion) on Vault:2 on 2010-03-04, with 73867 points after 30261 turns and 2:44:54. 08:51:53 Amazing :P 08:51:57 How do they do it :P 08:52:16 !hs . killer=orc 08:52:16 70. rob the Grappler (L9 TrFi), worshipper of Xom, slain by an orc (an orcish hammer) on D:8 on 2007-04-18, with 4087 points after 6644 turns and 0:42:01. 08:52:17 !lg * s=place x=avg(xl) 08:52:19 699587 games for *: 259671x D:1 [1.19], 109840x D:$ [1.67], 88540x D:2 [2.62], 68009x D:3 [3.66], 48306x D:4 [4.59], 27133x D:5 [5.68], 18724x D:6 [6.68], 11465x D:7 [7.49], 9415x D:8 [8.21], 7215x D:9 [8.84], 6835x Abyss [4.54], 5378x D:10 [9.35], 4089x D:11 [9.96], 2678x D:12 [10.5], 1744x D:13 [11.2], 1526x Lair:1 [10.06], 1302x Lair:2 [10.37], 1272x Orc:3 [10.38], 1209x Orc:2 [9.82], 1183x Lai... 08:54:09 03kilobyte * r6c32330b3adb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (mon-stuff.cc monster.cc): Fix permament silence if the monster silencing dies. Fix messaging. 08:55:11 permanent as in "until you save/reload, exit the level, a halo moves or another silence is on" 08:55:40 it disappeared on its own when I waited for a few thousands of turns 08:56:18 any los change kills the agrid 08:56:55 Hey, Brogue has autoexplore :) 08:57:32 I beat that :P 08:58:17 Too easy? :P 08:58:20 it was pretty fun but you are almost completely reliant on items and thus luck 08:58:50 I saw it's been updated recently, I was just checking out the features 08:59:41 humph, autoexplore is only for roguelikes that can't fit a decent map into an 80x24 terminal, the size of terminals as $GOD intended it! 09:00:17 What is this $GOD you speak of? Michael Stephenson? :P 09:00:37 Also Brogue does not use a tty :( 09:00:42 :) 09:01:15 also, it just recycles the yaaaawning old standard rl-plot 09:01:26 Roguelikes have plots now? :P 09:01:37 But with a name like Brogue, what did you expect, really? :P 09:01:50 some pun on broken :) 09:01:58 No plot can beat Crawl's heaving dungeon bosoms anyway 09:02:21 I had a mad giggling fit when I first saw that 09:02:25 adventurer death trap 09:03:40 well, maybe there WILL be a nude tile set patch to attract more players if I look at that :) 09:04:57 * greensnark wants to see hot nude quokkas. 09:05:01 Oh wait 09:05:46 I was so disappointed when I discovered that Slash'EM didn't have fire breathing platypuses 09:06:00 I think dpeg has been planning exotic dancing weapons 09:06:13 I find it a bit strange to simulate a tty ui and then go fully unicode and 32bit color 09:06:17 I was all geed up from reading Rob Ellwood's post and I found actual Slash'EM platypuses such a letdown 09:06:35 crawl has hit that right, IMO 09:06:40 Doesn't DF do weird stuff like that, too? 09:07:05 DF is so way out of standard roguelike waters, they are allowed to do that :) 09:07:31 actually I would have probably played DF more, if it didn't have such an ugly rl like UI 09:07:35 POWDER had a stylized ASCII tileset by Kelly Bailey 09:07:49 that's something different 09:07:59 Sort of cute, but not very useful 09:08:08 for nethack, it's rather fitting 09:08:22 The Geoduck tileset has the same deal, iirc 09:08:53 But the powder thing tried to put a lot more monster personality into the tiles, and it wasn't much different from the non-ascii-like tiles :P 09:09:00 In terms of recognisability 09:09:33 I like abigaba more than geoduck 09:09:48 Must be since my time, I hadn't heard of that :) 09:10:05 The geoduck tileset is ooooold :P 09:10:09 http://bilious.homelinux.org/~paxed/nethack/nhsshot/?dump=0&tileset=abigaba 09:10:39 hey Brogue even has an autopilot mode :P 09:10:57 ever since mario got one, every game wants an autopilot mode :) 09:11:15 syllogism: Does it play better than you? :P 09:11:36 probably on the first level at least :P 09:12:07 died on the second one :P 09:12:19 Wait, is the autopilot allowed to die? :P 09:13:03 bhaak: Yes, abigaba looks a lot classier 09:13:16 alright, not yet happy about the quality, but ok: 09:13:18 http://crawl.develz.org/other/crawl-ref-default-idle.mkv 09:13:23 Yay Napking! 09:13:24 http://crawl.develz.org/other/crawl-ref-no-idle.mkv 09:13:33 Which is the fun video? :P 09:13:40 haven't decided yet :D 09:13:56 I like that files don't disappear too quickly -> no-idle 09:14:01 * greensnark grabs no-idle. 09:14:25 more realistic about the size of the project 09:14:57 nice explosions when tiles are integrated 09:15:04 I'm sure. :P 09:15:15 and when huge activity boost by the switch to git :D 09:15:19 hey Enne :) 09:15:24 Hey, Napkin. :) 09:15:37 Is there any way I could get coolio's email address and ask directly about inclusion in the CREDITS? 09:15:38 *and the huge activity boost by the switch to git :D 09:15:45 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:15:48 yes, 1s 09:16:17 Napkin: Direct download from CDO caps my transfer at 150K/s :( 09:16:39 I have 1 MB/s 09:16:40 I get better speed through Hetzner :) 09:16:50 bhaak: You have a better internet connection, no doubt :P 09:16:50 pull it to hetzner first, greensnark :D 09:16:56