00:12:43 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:35:59 03greensnark * r0b1a733c7267 10/crawl-ref/ (19 files in 3 dirs): Add option restart_after_game to make Crawl return to the main menu after the game ends, enabled by default for tiles builds. 00:43:58 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:51:37 woot! 00:51:46 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 00:53:24 03greensnark * r8285ca3a9674 10/crawl-ref/source/ (main.cc message-stream.cc): Fix message stream leak when playing multiple games without restarting Crawl. 00:53:30 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 00:53:49 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:33:33 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 02:12:04 03by * rb73fffc66e15 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-util.cc: Reduce spell colouring. 02:46:38 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:59:09 by: Can I use that for 0.7 :P 03:01:30 I love Alfred Bester. 03:01:34 greensnark: What do you think of Alfred Bester? 03:18:26 due: nooooo.... why do you remove angels, replacing them with silly cupids, instead of having both? 03:21:55 KiloByte: Because angels are boring. 03:22:14 And they're not cupids, they're cherubim, big difference. 03:22:48 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:39 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:23:46 what's boring to them that's not boring for cupids? 03:24:58 they're more fitting with regard to the mythology that originated them... angels are the bulk of celestials, while cherubim would never be put to such a low role as guarding some random altar 03:27:45 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:28:25 03kilobyte * r5e078e1dc73a 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Don't say that a recited to monster fell asleep when it resisted that. [1892] 03:49:34 We don't have to subscribe that tightly to Christianity. 03:49:42 In fact, I'm trying to avoid it as much as I can. 03:54:39 but the Christians have thousands of years of minable lore 03:54:50 it's like D&D, but satisfying dpeg's 300 year rule 03:54:50 And it's boring. 03:55:03 Obscure, sure; well-known, boring. 03:57:06 "cherub" is suddenly obscure these days? 03:59:05 ophanim are nearly totaly unknown, yeah... like shedu or (way misused) apis. 04:00:03 Apis are fun! 04:01:06 300 year rule? 04:01:15 APIs are fun, due 04:01:22 True. 04:04:11 elly: A pop culture reference can be used in Crawl if and only if 1. it is older than 300 years or 2. it was added by Johanna 04:04:22 #2 was introduced after the onion incident 04:04:24 Johanna? 04:04:26 ?? 04:04:31 jpeg. 04:04:37 Johanna Ploog, aka jpeg, dpeg's sister 04:04:54 onion incident? 04:04:54 ah, I see 04:04:57 what was the onion incident? 04:05:03 ??you slice the ogre like an onion 04:05:03 I don't have a page labeled you_slice_the_ogre_like_an_onion in my learndb. 04:05:09 oh :P 04:06:37 dice 04:06:39 due: it's dice 04:06:40 not slice 04:07:39 how is that a pop culture reference? 04:08:34 bhaak: Shrek I 04:09:15 oh, the one not overrated shrek movie. I've only seen it once IIRC 04:10:07 if you want long blades to work buggily, MONS: ogre name:donkey n_rpl n_spe ; nothing 04:14:39 FR: cats with a taming attack 04:14:57 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:57 taming? 04:17:37 because we are talking on the topic of shrek references :) 04:17:57 or would it be more of a stun attack? 04:23:42 I don't quite see what taming has to do with what Puss did. 04:26:56 the enemies weren't hostile anymore 04:50:35 cute eyes? 04:50:57 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:54:24 -!- Niccus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:54:55 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:55:15 -!- Niccus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:55:46 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:58:51 -!- Niccus| has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:26 -!- Niccus| has quit [Client Quit] 05:02:32 -!- Niccus has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 05:12:20 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 05:12:30 Cheers 05:24:18 !seen greensnark 05:24:19 I last saw greensnark at Sun Jul 4 07:59:09 2010 UTC (2h 25m 10s ago) saying by: Can I use that for 0.7 :P on ##crawl-dev. 05:31:21 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:41:58 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:42:38 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:42:38 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:50:59 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:51:42 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:51:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:59:41 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:00:19 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:00:19 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 06:06:23 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:07:13 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:07:13 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 06:08:06 greensnark: yes, please 06:10:47 by: LOS cache invalidation takes 50% CPU again 06:11:30 not because it degraded, but because I managed to improve several of the remaining worst offenders 06:14:38 but since the performance still looks bad enough to seriously slow down CAO, it may be wise to try to tackle it again 06:14:39 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:15:14 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 06:15:14 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 06:17:30 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * r446f293f41a6 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-util.cc: Reduce spell colouring. 06:17:32 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * r7cfacd45509d 10/crawl-ref/source/godabil.cc: Don't say that a recited to monster fell asleep when it resisted that. [1892] 06:24:05 Should we just revert the remaining (now unused) spell colouring? 06:25:07 does the jiyva eat off-level items only if they've been stashed by the player? 06:30:16 doesn't look like it; wouldn't this mean he'll eat items off levels you haven't even explored? Say, if you enter vault 8 and leave 06:36:30 syllogism: yes 06:56:01 not much going on today? 07:00:00 if you wanna see another cool code visualization, download http://code.google.com/p/gource/ and start it in the crawl rep 07:00:10 no pre-made movie this time as this tool is interactive 07:22:15 moin guys 07:24:57 ran it on unnethack yet, bhaak? 07:29:35 Napkin: it doesn't have svn support but only as git-svn works so well 07:30:18 Napkin: yes, I ran it with unnethack and nethack's source code tree looks much nicer than crawl's 07:31:02 crawl's "source" directory dominates the view :) 07:32:47 hehe 07:33:12 but it's supposed to support SVN too, with third party addons 07:33:19 http://code.google.com/p/gource/wiki/SVN 07:33:48 and of course - "nice" is relative :D 07:34:29 that's excuse I also always choose if somebody says nethack doesn't look good :) 07:36:09 Napkin: the "third party addons" means, in SVN's case, git-svn, bzr-svn and hg-svn 07:36:24 ah, I see 07:36:43 just saw the link, didn't bother to read 07:37:23 oh, but there is also svn-gource.py 07:37:30 might be faster 07:39:54 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 07:40:14 g'morning, Enne :) 07:40:23 Howdy, Napkin. :) 08:35:59 !lg * map=jungle book -tv 08:35:59 1. xyblor, XL13 HuMo, T:22974 requested for FooTV. 09:00:13 -!- purge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:00:24 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 09:38:33 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 09:58:02 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:17:32 03by * r97ecc7274bad 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-util.cc spl-util.h): Remove unused spell_is_{useful,risky}. 10:17:33 03by * r9c85857147a0 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-book.cc: RBOOK_USE_STAFF implies that the "book" is a staff. 10:17:35 03by * rd491b7f82973 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spl-book.cc spl-util.cc spl-util.h): Fix highlighting of (un)memorized spells in book display. (#1101) 10:37:20 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:46:00 -!- Madtrixr has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:47:46 gsource doesn't work when I point iot at my tortoiseSVN directory :( 10:48:17 gource even 10:51:47 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 10:56:43 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:20:53 -!- stabwound has quit [] 11:34:53 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 11:41:19 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:52:03 Can't look up description of archer statue (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1894) by ekaterin 12:26:34 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 13:23:47 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:06 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 14:01:07 Rar. 14:04:27 Siber: gource doesn't work directly with svn. But you can import (and even manage) a subversion repository into git with the 'git svn' command 14:28:08 -!- jld has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:31:42 -!- Poor_Yurik has joined ##crawl-dev 14:33:28 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:34:06 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:33 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 14:43:28 -!- kofrad1 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:59:13 bhaak: thanks. This is gonna take a bit. 15:02:34 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 15:04:29 You begin reciting the Axioms of Law. You continue reciting. The kobold falls asleep! You continue reciting. The kobold falls asleep! The kobold misses you. You continue reciting. The kobold falls asleep! You finish reciting. The kobold hits you but does no damage. 15:04:36 it's a single kobold 15:05:27 -!- Poor_Yurik has quit [] 15:08:05 -!- Eronarn has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:11:36 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 15:16:54 so basically recite still sucks? 15:18:48 18:38 < syllogism> at high invo recite permapacifies 95+% of zot 15:18:48 18:38 < syllogism> for 0 piety 15:21:05 18:49 < casmith789> BirdoPrey mentioned in ##crawl that Zin was extremely good and he liked him 15:21:24 i think zin probably needs some more playtesting at this point 15:21:50 quite possible that everyone just assumes that zin sucks, and so we keep making him better, and people keep saying that he sucks without actually trying it 15:21:51 I'll try a spriggan of zin next I think 15:21:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:22:22 !lg * cv>0.6 xl>10 s=god 15:22:22 3640 games for * (cv>0.6 xl>10): 630x Okawaru, 607x Sif Muna, 513x Vehumet, 343x Trog, 272x Kikubaaqudgha, 242x Makhleb, 178x Cheibriados, 165x Nemelex Xobeh, 141x , 115x Fedhas, 102x The Shining One, 92x Xom, 54x Yredelemnul, 49x Jiyva, 42x Lugonu, 35x Elyvilon, 31x Beogh, 17x Zin, 12x Feawn 15:22:25 for instance 15:27:16 -!- Moriasc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 15:28:57 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:29:11 -!- Moriasc_ is now known as Moriasc 15:31:32 doy: I was replying to KiloByte 15:31:46 sorear: and i was replying to you 15:32:34 sorear: it's not about sucking, it's about silly interactions of sleep and bad stealth 15:33:09 monsters often get to act the very same turn they fell asleep 15:35:26 and yeah, trying this in wizmode against Cerebov is scary... if he fails to get haste on (which shouldn't protect from recite if it's from another reason, but that's another story), temp pacification seems to happen most often 15:35:32 of freaking Cerebov! 15:36:24 why demons are even affected when you talk about "just saying no to dealing with demons" or "the evils of mutations", is beyond me, too 15:36:25 clearly, I must haste with my Sp before someone fixes it! 15:36:59 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 15:52:21 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 15:53:22 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 15:56:25 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 16:04:37 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 16:06:57 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 16:17:46 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:29:42 -!- Moriasc_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:04 -!- kofrad1 has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:30:09 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:30:21 -!- kofrad has joined ##crawl-dev 16:30:22 -!- Moriasc_ is now known as Moriasc 16:33:35 -!- eith_ has joined ##crawl-dev 16:36:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:36:46 -!- eith_ is now known as eith 17:08:08 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:18:45 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 17:20:57 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:26:09 -!- Demos has joined ##crawl-dev 17:29:48 -!- Demos has left ##crawl-dev 17:44:42 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 17:47:00 -!- syllogism has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 17:48:47 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 17:48:59 Morning! 18:07:27 !seen greensnark 18:07:28 I last saw greensnark at Sun Jul 4 13:35:59 2010 UTC (9h 31m 29s ago) saying !lg * map=jungle book -tv on ##crawl-dev. 18:12:38 !seen anyone 18:12:38 Sorry dpeg, I haven't seen anyone. 18:14:18 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:15:47 I had no idea the Jungle Book was 300 years old 18:16:05 * sorear tips off dpeg 18:16:20 sorear: :) 18:16:42 Kipling is not that old, he used an earlier version? 18:16:50 (I am wildly speculating here.) 18:19:14 i agree, recite really shouldn't work against monsters that zin hates, like demons 18:19:18 doesn't really make sense 18:19:27 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 18:19:58 I'm having issues training invocations as a SpEn of zin :( 18:20:23 I don't see why 18:20:28 lair 18:20:29 recite doesn't even cost food 18:20:29 beasts 18:20:38 nothing to recite on :D 18:22:41 priests of Zin are not the best idea. You can get that starting piety by going Ely->sac->Zin, and as most of recite's effects make enemies stabbable, staff isn't what you want either 18:23:13 KiloByte: yes, by now I favour having only Elyviln as a starting, good god. 18:23:28 (There's a wiki active about that.) 18:25:41 it's just Beogh who really deserves to be a priestly starting god 18:26:12 those ideas of a fixed altar don't look that hot to me 18:26:31 but, that's 0.8 material 18:26:57 for 0.7, we need to do something to Zin and the Zot/Cerebov problem 18:27:38 18:38 < syllogism> at high invo recite permapacifies 95+% of zot 18:27:38 18:38 < syllogism> for 0 piety 18:27:38 18:49 < casmith789> BirdoPrey mentioned in ##crawl that Zin was extremely good and he liked him 18:28:27 trying to recreate that right now, assuming I survive up to that point 18:28:38 and the chance to get recite against pan lords is so high it's a bad joke 18:29:17 plus the thematic issue of it working on demons at all 18:29:42 it definitely shouldn't work against demons at all 18:29:46 oh, I don't see why Recite shouldn't work vs demons per se 18:30:00 that's probably an easy fix that can go in right now 18:30:03 But you'd think that demon _lords_ are psychologically stable enough to not falter. 18:30:36 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:30:44 well, the recite text specifically talks about not dealing with demons 18:31:03 I say this because I thought that "demon" and "evil" is not nessecarily a strict implication. What with holy monsters etc. 18:31:11 doy: yes 18:31:12 "It works best on humanoids, worse on undead and demons" 18:31:31 For example, does it strike anyone as odd that you can Ely-pacify liches? 18:31:55 recite even permapacifies moths of wrath, which is weird 18:32:27 yeah, Ely-pacify on the undead is wrong too. It should at most damage them, or perhaps disable, but certainly not make them love you. 18:32:28 dpeg: yeah, a bit 18:32:40 KiloByte: there's no love involved... 18:32:47 ...I regard it as opportunism. 18:33:07 They don't follow you, after all. They just forget their former orders/grudge. 18:33:50 If someone would make a Mantis item which contains some of the feedback (e.g. what KiloByte cited), then that'd be enough for dolorous to get going. 18:34:36 a zombie that gets healed... it should either come back to living (if the effect is REALLY powerful) or get destroyed 18:35:18 wands of healing work on anything, no? 18:36:03 I think I am saying here that we might slightly, slowly deviate from the true RPG path... which is okay, in my opinion. Not the least because we're talking about gods here. 18:36:58 Interesting topic, but I really need to sleep. Sorry. 18:37:20 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: zzz] 18:37:21 I wanted to say that Ely shouldn't put her hand into repairing unholy animated flesh, but perhaps you may have a point here, since she loves everyone 18:45:58 yay... it's IMPOSSIBLE for even Cerebov to resist recite (he may at most be lucky with the 50% per round chance to avoid hearing it) 18:48:43 was staves turned to real 2hand recently? 18:50:39 they always were, dual handed has always been a stub without an implementation 18:51:07 there's a check for aux unarmed, but that's all 18:51:15 I mean I could wear a shield with them before, so it's either my spriggan stature or something changed :) 18:51:21 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:52:29 ogres can wield quarterstaves/lajatangs 1.5-handed, humans can wield enhancers but with huge penalties 18:54:22 the penalty starts with halving melee damage 18:54:47 i was playing a kobold with an enhancer staff + shield on 0.6.1 the other day 18:56:14 not sure about kobolds 18:57:17 enhancer staves are one handed 18:57:37 I have a staff of enchantment on a spriggan but can't use it with a buckler 18:57:37 for no reason at all 19:13:49 syllogism-: they're 1.5 handed for most races 19:14:28 Zin's recite affects pan lords (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1895) by KiloByte 19:14:32 syllogism-: in 0.6, this means they suck unless you get your Shields skill high, in 0.7 that suckage was further increased by a lot 19:15:17 by the way, a correction: it IS possible to fail a recite on Cerebov. The chance to do so is 1 in 2256. 19:16:44 KiloByte: ah yes 19:17:34 KiloByte: at what invo? 19:18:11 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:22:14 sorear: 27 19:23:00 but apparently even with 0 INV Cerebov has no chances 19:23:36 pow = (INV+3) + piety/10 19:24:36 resist for big demons is 14..18 - d(INV) 19:25:11 heh... 6d17f6c1b simply capped RM at 11 :p 19:26:32 it was RM + a meaningless bonus of 3+d5 for demons before 19:35:57 capping RM at ... 11 19:36:08 does dolorous know the typical range of MR values? 19:38:20 let's ask him, it might have been a honest mistake rather than ignorance 19:39:46 well, sleep 19:56:29 air elementalists are pretty worthless if you don't find spellbooks quickly enough 19:56:44 shock + meph cloud only gets you so far 19:58:00 actually 19:58:09 the real issue is that their mid-level spell is static discharge 19:58:15 which is pretty incredibly worthless 20:01:52 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Quit: Page closed] 20:11:19 -!- Moriasc has joined ##crawl-dev 20:20:06 -!- MarvinPA has joined ##crawl-dev 20:26:14 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 20:27:38 should saint roka drown in any case? 20:28:11 or was the waterwalk introduced yet mm 20:29:52 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 20:34:02 saint roka should have waterwalk, and you should be able to kill him by confusing him over deep water, making him attack one of his orc band, getting beogh pissed at him and losing water walking 20:34:35 he has waterwalk in .7 prerelease right now? 20:34:40 shrug 20:39:31 doy: that sounds horribly overcomplicated 20:39:35 (: 20:39:45 why would beogh care about accidental acts anyway 20:40:11 "it's not accidental, he could have stood still!" 20:40:17 no 20:40:19 monsters can't 20:40:31 you can, which is why you don't get the free pass 20:41:32 anyone who files a ticket about how this is inconsistent gets automatically blacklisted 20:42:18 it is inconsistent, that's an implementation detail that shouldn't matter 20:50:33 Monsters not being able to stand still while confused is a deliberate asymmetry, because the game is a lot funnier when confused monsters lurch around 20:51:54 Has someone filed a bug for the recite issues 20:53:10 Ah, KiloByte did 20:53:25 recite is quite... brutal in shoals 20:54:13 Recently every new power added has tended in the direction of "let's make the game winnable with this alone" :P 20:58:07 I suspect the recite MR cap of 11 is a case of using std::min where std::max was intended 20:58:23 "recently" being at least the past year or so 21:25:23 hmmm, cdo doesn't list the current version in the menu anymore 21:25:25 why is that? 21:28:49 pre .7? 21:30:10 ?/S for orb of destruction is incorrect (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1896) by doy 21:31:01 yeah, by 'version' i meant 'git commit id' 21:31:45 -!- Moriasc has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:34:45 yawn 21:35:55 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:38:13 Oh excellent, only 15 emails today. 21:38:21 And most of them can be marked as read quickly. 21:39:59 Why is kofrad marking tickets as acknolwedged? 21:41:28 Napkin: Is there any way to stop people from acknowledging tickets if they aren;'t of the developer bit? 21:49:49 If it's acknowledged by kofrad it must be good 21:49:54 Who is kofrad? :) 21:50:14 I've no idea. 22:00:19 should be able to annotate other levels from the X screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1897) by doy 22:05:21 monster descriptions can be unnecessarily long (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1898) by doy 22:15:24 butchering messages could be condensed a bit more (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1899) by doy 22:20:25 pickup/drop help screen (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1900) by doy 22:20:38 -!- xyblor has left ##crawl-dev 22:21:36 !lg bp god=~Kiku D:10 killer=orc x=src 22:21:37 No games for bp (god=~Kiku D:10 killer=orc). 22:21:48 !lg bp god=~Kiku place=D:10 killer=orc x=src 22:21:48 1. [src=cdo] bp the Blackguard (L9 SpEn), worshipper of Kikubaaqudgha, slain by an orc (a +2,+1 orcish flail) on D:10 on 2010-06-29, with 3168 points after 9345 turns and 0:41:08. 22:22:46 Heh, https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1848 22:35:29 toadstools growing shouldn't interrupt resting (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1901) by doy 22:38:56 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:40:31 confusing behavior when butchering with claws and gloves (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1902) by doy 22:50:34 thrown weapons that kill you aren't identified (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1903) by doy 22:55:36 exclusions can cause an incorrect end of exploration message (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1904) by doy 23:00:37 out of range screen flash isn't useful (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1905) by doy 23:15:42 interruptable multi-turn actions should be interrupted by new monsters coming into view (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1906) by doy 23:25:45 ... 23 emails? What did I do? 23:32:47 greensnark: the Z/z thing for Fulsome isn't really any easy fix for 0.7. 23:32:58 greensnark: The only issue here is that, if you repeatedly try to ccast fulsome using z, you can get a miscast. 23:33:05 But are never able to actually cast it. 23:33:42 The required code change is to move the corpse count/check thing out of the actual code casting and to before the miscast checks. 23:34:10 I wouldn't mind removing the corpse check altogether for 0.7 if necessary :p 23:34:18 Sure. 23:34:25 The interface inconsistency is what's uncool there 23:34:29 Yeah. 23:34:36 Actually, we should just nuke it. It makes no sense. 23:34:52 The only reason it was put in was so that it could automatically use the corpse you were standing on. 23:34:57 Instead of prompting you for it. 23:35:02 is there a place where discussion of spell colors is going on? 23:35:06 or should i file a new ticket? 23:35:12 NO TICKET 23:35:16 * due throws doy out o fthe zeppelin 23:35:22 because i think the current situation is pretty terrible 23:35:31 Has it not been changed recently? 23:36:10 not sure what you mean 23:36:29 Rob recently reverted it back to its previous 0.6 state 23:36:34 nuking god liked, "useful", etc. 23:36:42 ah, i never even saw that 23:36:44 keeping "empowered by vehumet", god disliked and dangerous. 23:37:00 it also keeps 'useless', but that's done really confusingly 23:37:32 I only really glanced over the commit 23:41:24 hmmm 23:41:39 can't really reproduce some things i remember seeing 23:42:26 !lm * type=crash 23:42:26 70. [2010-07-04] MarvinPA the Impaler (L13 MfBe) ? (Lair:4) 23:42:36 At least we seem to be doing ok on the crash reduction angle 23:45:51 Items should be dropped in the order selected (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1907) by OG17 23:48:14 * due crashes crawl through a shop window, steals a stereo.