00:45:17 Let's buff mnoleg. 01:05:41 We did. 01:05:42 Twice. 01:08:13 How recently? 01:20:49 0.4 and 0.5 01:49:15 -!- pineapple has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:20:51 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:21:56 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 02:24:31 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:27:46 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 03:54:00 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:00:34 -!- ixtli has quit [Quit: ixtli] 04:06:29 -!- ixtli has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:35 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 05:13:13 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:46:50 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:47:28 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:47:28 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:50:27 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 05:50:31 Hark! 05:51:49 The dogs do bark? 05:53:33 What does Manannan mac Lir recommend 05:53:34 <3 05:53:34 Ptah recommends Motörhead! 05:53:34 Hark mortal! To enter the castle, you must play the right tune! 05:53:36 That's my favourite god name 05:54:36 Have you read the Broken Sword by Poul Anderson? :P 05:54:39 He recommends an Ale :) 05:54:40 Wait, what am I saying, you won't even read Lord of Light :P 05:55:08 no :) 05:55:17 * dpeg is busy frying cats, no time for non-canine literure. 05:57:05 greensnark: I have won both new Sprint maps... regardless of which one we'll choose for the tournament (the other one will go into public trunk right away), two things can be seen: 05:57:42 You've already won them both? They must be too easy as syllogism says :) 05:57:42 * dpeg mopes in the far corner. 05:57:43 You remember jarpiain used to play those ironwasp games sending the same set of keystrokes to cao and cdo 05:57:43 We need an ironsprint variation where you control two sprint characters in diffferent maps with the same keystrokes :P 05:57:43 (1) It would be good if Sprint maps had a way to define their title, for starting screen purposes. Would something like: TITLE: "The return of the evil overlord" work? 05:57:43 haha <3 05:57:43 Starting screen meaning the menu where you choose the Sprint map? 05:57:43 yes 05:57:43 We could use DESC: and make the menu show the description 05:57:43 currently, the map's name is chosen, making for a slightly ugly looking title :) 05:57:43 yes! 05:57:44 (2) Ideally, we should have different files for different sprint maps -- those files are huge. Is that possibleß 05:57:45 ß=? 05:59:27 (3) Chapayev pointed out that scoring for Sprint maps without runes is broken: all wins have essentially the same score, because turncount is not used. Could we have a tag which tell the game to use the orb as a rune? 05:59:27 Crawl doesn't really care what file maps come from, so yes 05:59:54 great 06:00:25 !tell Chapayev You had a small list of rules (or hints) for Sprint map makers. Would you send that to me? Thanks! 06:00:26 dpeg: OK, I'll let Chapayev know. 06:00:59 shouldn't turn count be used always when you have the orb? 06:01:40 by: chapayev indicated it isn't 06:02:02 maybe he's wrong and the small differences in score come from turncounts being so close 06:02:03 but that would be a bug in the scoring formula regardless of sprint, it would seem 06:02:05 Also hi! 06:02:07 !lm * min=score ktyp=winning 06:02:18 syllogism: Hi too! I am missing your report =) 06:02:20 hi 06:02:20 168045. [2010-01-28] syllogism the Farming Englaciator (L27 HEIE) entered the Abyss! (Pan) 06:02:29 syllogism: did you play the Chapayev Sprint2 map? 06:02:35 !lg * min=score ktyp=winning 06:02:35 2724. syllogism the Farming Englaciator (L1 HEIE), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, escaped with the Orb!. on 2010-01-28, with 250008 points after 209486 turns and 21:26:39. 06:02:49 21 hours :) 06:03:16 dpeg: I did not, was considering waiting until it's on cdo but apparently that might take a while :P 06:04:38 syllogism: we might choose that map for the tournament. As with Mu's map, your insight is very much welcome. 06:06:12 Mu's map is great but it would be even better with a few more puzzle type of encounters 06:06:25 and less item variance and more guaranteed items as you said 06:06:51 fleshy portal vault looks great in tiles 06:07:37 it creeped me out a little because i was playing fitting music in background, by accident 06:07:46 syllogism: yes, it can certainly be improved. Do you have the time to (a) send your comments (the two above, for example) to the Sprint list, and (b) to test Chapayev's map? The crucial point is which map will need fewer tweaks -- they're very different and both great. 06:07:57 ortoslon: fleshy music? :) 06:08:04 ya 06:08:34 dpeg: Doublesprint game mode, where you must beat one map to enter the other at XL 1 with all your skills reset :P 06:09:59 Once we have enough maps we can do a Sprint decathlon :P 06:10:12 Stride 06:10:12 Even syllogism ought to have trouble with those 06:10:19 <3 06:14:51 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:16:39 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 06:23:13 rax: Would be nice to have a final set of tournament rules soon :) 06:27:34 !seen Cryp71c 06:27:35 I last saw Cryp71c at Tue Jun 29 21:39:12 2010 UTC (2d 13h 48m 22s ago) quitting with message Quit: Leaving. 06:35:05 03by 07stone_soup-0.7 * rb0c8f743db35 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: Fix LOS not being updated properly on Slime:6. 06:35:08 03kilobyte 07stone_soup-0.7 * re70d61c830f6 10/crawl-ref/source/test/los_symm.lua: Fix an invalid test failure for los_symm. 06:35:10 03dolorous 07stone_soup-0.7 * r67949c98155f 10/crawl-ref/source/abl-show.cc: Fix Mantis 1875: Zin's Imprison has its error messages swapped. 06:35:40 greensnark: do we want the new vaults (by minmay) for 0.7? I could test and commit them today. 06:36:44 dpeg: I haven't looked at them, but when you review them you'll probably have a fair picture 06:36:58 okay 06:37:03 If you think they look reasonably sane we can take them for 0.7 06:37:18 If they need lots of fixing and stuff, let's push them to 0.8 06:38:32 alright, you'll hear from me in an hour or so -- he has a lots of maps :) 06:38:43 This is the second set of maps from minmay, right? 06:38:52 Did we add the appropriate name to credits? 06:42:04 Heck if I know. 06:46:41 is wtanksleyjr Chapayev 06:46:53 syllogism: No 06:47:00 who is 06:47:22 though I suppose I don't have to send my impressions to him 06:47:22 I don't actually know Chapayev's real name 06:47:49 dpeg might know, they regularly get together to discuss n-dimensional manifolds 06:48:13 dpeg: Oh yes, Chapayev should be in credits if he isn't already 06:50:27 I'll just send to mu and dpeg 06:52:35 syllogism: please send to all folks in the sprint mail, okay? 06:52:46 wtanksleyjr is the man behind Omega 06:52:58 Haran and Darshan give him very high credits for that :) 06:53:10 * greensnark denies this. 06:53:15 I hardly know the man :P 06:53:20 Okay, Haran does :) 06:53:43 oh right, i remember now 06:53:51 Haran told me that he'll accept wtanksley's slightly erratic behaviour anytime because of the Omega legacy. 06:54:23 I'm quite indifferent to wtanksley, I haven't seen anything special from him :) 06:54:32 syllogism: if you reply to all on the list, you encourage the others to look into the Sprints too. 06:54:50 Looks like Linley had contact with wtanksley, because the Crawl source used to have references to him 06:56:51 what's omega 06:57:01 Mu_: hi! 06:57:11 Hail and well met 06:57:13 syllogism pulled a full runer for your map :) 06:57:18 ye i saw 06:57:47 I am trying to push syllogism into jotting down his ideas, but it ain't easy with the Finns :) 06:58:09 I'd need a tool that rotates ASCII for me. 07:01:43 email sent 07:02:02 yay! 07:02:10 Now it's time for Sprint2 :) 07:02:23 You can beat it with an additional challenge. 07:02:33 03greensnark * r92418ba63aa0 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc: [1873] Fix monsters no longer cutting down plants to reach player. 07:02:35 03greensnark * r4652434d17d1 10/crawl-ref/source/delay.cc: Fix confusion preventing long-rest. 07:02:49 yay 07:04:52 syllogism: good stuff! 07:08:52 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:12:59 by: can I get back the menu cursor. I cannot play without . anymore :/ 07:13:17 Also, jpeg coded this for as my birthday present. 07:15:08 I can adapt the documentation, I was a bit hasty there. 07:16:18 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 07:16:34 -!- Henzell has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18:48 dpeg: there's an option 07:19:45 -!- Henzell has joined ##crawl-dev 07:19:52 !lg 07:19:55 !whereis 07:19:55 greensnark the Shatterer (L22 HuFi), a worshipper of Makhleb, last saved on Vault:3 on 2010-06-26 after 89057 turns. 07:20:00 !whereis by 07:20:00 rob the Slinger (L11 HaAM), a worshipper of Fedhas, last saved on Lair:1 on 2010-06-01 after 13619 turns. 07:20:02 by: option means the new feature is deprecated from the start. 07:20:18 yes, it's not done 07:20:21 The command is really useful when dealing with many items. 07:20:32 heya 07:20:46 !nick by 07:20:49 do you want players to learn the current keys for 0.7, and then change the keys for 0.8? 07:21:23 also, it is really distracting in its current state 07:21:45 I would keep the keys and only add more keys with the same behaviour for later. 07:23:32 Can we change the way the menu is highlighted 07:23:39 which menu? 07:23:45 A subtle bar highlight would be better than the [-] thing 07:23:57 The item menus when using the select-next feature 07:24:07 by: the additional keys (cursor down and right) would only be useful for non-vi users, whereas . and ' should be useful for vi-users. At least, that was my plan.) 07:24:08 I also find [-] very visually distracting 07:24:25 I never notice it? 07:24:29 The newgame menus use a bar highlight; something similar would be good to show the current item 07:24:32 greensnark: I suggested an option to configure the cursor. But that's more work, of course. 07:24:53 dpeg: Wouldn't it be better to show the current item rather than the next item? 07:25:06 greensnark: wouldn't a bar highlight be much more massive than something like [-] or -. ? 07:25:08 When I select something to drop and the next item blinks, it makes me think I accidentally selected the wrong thing 07:25:19 greensnark: yes, possibly. 07:25:24 dpeg: No, no, my problem is that I select (x) and (x+1) flashes at me 07:25:48 So I think I screwed up and have to visually inspect it to see that no, it's the [-] 07:26:00 The highlight would be better on the just-selected-item, I think 07:26:18 my reasoning for the change was: it's currently broken, and 0.7 is close, so let's disable it for now 07:26:20 -!- ortoslon1 has joined ##crawl-dev 07:26:21 -!- ortoslon has quit [Disconnected by services] 07:26:22 ah, that's where you are coming from 07:26:37 by: broken how? It is only the documentation which is off. 07:26:49 what greensnark said 07:26:52 The . feature is very old and worked well. jpeg just added a new command key to move down without selection. 07:27:03 !nick by 07:27:04 Mapping by = rob by robx orb 07:27:09 hehe 07:28:02 dpeg: also, for example, the cursor should start on the first item and not magically appear once you select something 07:28:07 by: okay, so it may be okay for now to have an option for (not) showing the cursor (unless one of you volounteers to fix the cursor by highlighting the correct line). But couldn't work . and ' regardless? 07:28:13 by: yes 07:28:35 I wouldn't mind the cursor magically appearing if it appers on what I selected 07:28:40 Just not on the next item :P 07:30:06 -!- Sequell has joined ##crawl-dev 07:30:12 The terrible twins are here 07:30:15 Triplets 07:30:55 !nick by 07:30:56 Mapping by = rob by robx orb 07:30:56 Mapping by = rob by robx orb 07:31:01 !lg by 07:31:01 1719. rob the Bewitcher (L14 SpEn), worshipper of Jiyva, succumbed to a potion of strong poison on D:25 on 2010-07-02, with 65830 points after 17743 turns and 4:07:39. 07:31:16 !lm * cao 07:31:18 792639. [2010-07-02] Sbodd the Practitioner (L2 CeHe) killed Ijyb on turn 1221. (D:2) 07:31:18 hi 07:31:26 omega the rl or omega the tex engine? 07:31:29 greensnark: Triplets? 07:31:35 Okay, so there are two solutions I'd be very grateful for: (A) Make the cursor make more sense: appear on first item right away, use current item rather than next item. Or (B) hide the cursor for 0.7, but allow the . and ' keys. What dd you think? 07:31:38 bhaak: Omega RL maintainer 07:31:54 greensnark has been dabbling with particle physics too much. 07:31:57 dpeg: Aren't . and ' allowed already? 07:32:02 no! 07:32:02 Sequell: They killed Ijyb! Alas. 07:32:05 Poor Ijyb :( 07:32:08 They're gone :( 07:32:18 greensnark: small computer world 07:32:19 Well, there is an option but that means they're as good as gone. 07:32:29 Oh, I thought only the [-] highlight was gone 07:32:39 no, the feature along with the cursoer 07:33:57 If we can make the cursor not insanely distracting and the feature is not incomplete, we can keep it for 0.7 07:34:07 I thought there were a bunch of changes plannned for it 07:34:14 And the old state of the cursor was really irritating :P 07:34:35 So the only thing we need to do is fix the cursor and enable those hotkeys and the feature is done? 07:35:24 yes 07:35:36 You'd do me a great favour. 07:35:49 I know where by is coming from, and I did rely on jpeg too much. 07:37:46 I'll just disable the cursor 07:37:58 okay, minmay's elf maps are okay, including the new end 07:38:01 by: thank you 07:38:13 That helps me a lot, even if not the community :) 07:38:17 dpeg: I haven't had a chance to play thee Lair:$ vault. 07:38:36 due: me neither, only testing DS and Sprints here. 07:40:02 re-doing a command doesn't reuse the target properly (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1876) by galehar 07:40:30 !lg * place=Lair:8 src=cdo 07:40:31 100. KiloByte the Blackguard (L13 VpEn), worshipper of Okawaru, demolished by an azure jelly on Lair:8 on 2010-06-28, with 38177 points after 22882 turns and 2:13:14. 07:40:35 There must be some psychological reasons why most maps are higher than than wider. 07:40:38 !lg * place=Lair:8 src=cdo -2 -tv 07:40:38 99. Lemuel, XL13 DSCK, T:26512 requested for FooTV. 07:41:04 It's not playing? 07:41:24 Who is sequellß 07:41:53 The split from Henzell, I guess? 07:42:09 03by * r7eca21575b78 10/crawl-ref/source/ (invent.cc menu.cc): Make Options.menu_cursor not disable the corresponding keys. (dpeg) 07:42:11 greensnark: FootV doesn't work with sequell. 07:42:14 Thanks! 07:42:24 dpeg: perhaps because on-screen characters have an aspect ratio far from 1:1? 07:42:36 So Henzell : Sequell = ##crawl : ##crawl-dev ? 07:42:45 dpeg: people growing up with vertical scrollers? 07:42:52 KiloByte: sure, but in many cases the rotated map will have fewer lines! 07:43:28 dpeg: greensnark's splitting db requests from henzell to sequell 07:43:50 due: Not yet, I'm aware of it 07:44:06 FooTV still thinks CAO is broadcasting TV requests 07:44:14 Can we get JOINs? 07:44:27 We already have limited joins :P 07:44:30 I want to see how many people have after killing Sigmund! 07:44:31 No arbitrary sql, sorry :P 07:44:36 Bugger. 07:44:41 Can I get a copy of the DB, then? 07:44:42 :D 07:44:45 Sure 07:44:48 sqlite? 07:44:52 MySQL 07:44:55 Oh, gross. 07:45:07 Oh but hey, replication! ;) 07:45:18 Though with sqlite I guess you could just use rsync. 07:56:42 We need to rename Ashenzari so that its name is the same length as Henzell and ends with "ell". 07:56:48 Ashrell? ;) 07:57:15 greensnark, dpeg: minmay is in the CREDITS as Andrew Minton. 07:57:50 thank you! 07:58:02 Mmminty. 08:00:21 Enne: Thanks 08:00:52 !help 08:00:52 !help: Displays help on a command. For a list of commands, see !cmdinfo. 08:00:56 Hm 08:00:58 !load 08:00:58 Loaded 30 commands 08:00:58 Loaded 19 commands 08:01:00 !help 08:01:00 !help: Displays help on a command. For a list of commands, see !cmdinfo. 08:01:01 !help: Displays help on a command. For a list of commands, see !cmdinfo. 08:01:07 That could get a shade annoying :P 08:01:09 !cmdinfo 08:01:09 !aplayers !apt !cdefine !cmdinfo !coffee !copysave !dump !echo !eplayers !ftw !function !help !idle !learn !macro !messages !nick !players !rc !rng !screensize !seen !send !skill !source !tell !time !vault !whereis !wtf 08:01:10 !chars !cmdinfo !deathsby !deathsin !gamesby !gkills !help !hs !killsby !lg !listgame !lm !log !nick !streak !ttr !ttyrec !tv !won 08:01:17 hehe 08:01:29 !help chars 08:01:30 !chars: Lists the frequency of all character types a player started. 08:01:33 !help apt 08:01:33 !apt: Looks up aptitudes for specified race/skill combination. 08:01:55 !chars 08:01:55 it's only !help then 08:01:56 470 games for greensnark: 27x MuWn, 20x HuPa, 16x MuPr, 15x OgEE, 15x KeWn, 14x HaMo, 14x DEMo, 13x HaCr, 12x KoWn, 12x GhWn, 11x OMTm, 11x KoPr, 11x SpEn, 10x DrWn, 9x GnWn, 9x TrFi, 8x MuNe, 8x DrTm, 8x DGWn, 7x HuFi, 7x HaPr, 7x HaWn, 6x HDEE, 6x MuCr, 6x HDCj, 6x DrMo, 5x OgFi, 5x HaHu, 4x DEHe, 4x DrFi, 4x SETh, 4x MuTm, 4x MuMo, 4x KeMo, 3x KeNe, 3x KeAE, 3x MfWn, 3x MuFi, 3x DECK, 3x OgIE, ... 08:02:04 There's also !nick 08:02:07 !nick goodplayers 08:02:07 Mapping goodplayers = 78291 Stabwound MadDasher cbus mikee xyblor Iaido Jeff pointless modargo rob heteroy daftfad Grimm aurelian rax Cyrus jarmok Mayhem sorear ekaterin doy b0rsuk uru wasp eternal greensnark jilles Pacra rgould solitas ekiM elliptic bobbens Butch Radicchio splat Ivo Dingir Kjoery aquila dpeg Grivan meneril ronf Temoid senche Nosferax Jovan eyhung itsmu syllogism herself hayenne h... 08:02:07 Mapping goodplayers = 78291 Stabwound MadDasher cbus mikee xyblor Iaido Jeff pointless modargo rob heteroy daftfad Grimm aurelian rax Cyrus jarmok Mayhem sorear ekaterin doy b0rsuk uru wasp eternal greensnark jilles Pacra rgould solitas ekiM elliptic bobbens Butch Radicchio splat Ivo Dingir Kjoery aquila dpeg Grivan meneril ronf Temoid senche Nosferax Jovan eyhung itsmu syllogism herself hayenne h... 08:02:13 Spammeriffic 08:02:16 ah okay 08:02:24 I could get rid of !nick on Henzell, but then !whereis would ignore nicks 08:02:27 just remove !help and !nick from Sequell 08:02:38 Sequell needs nicks for queries :P 08:02:45 oh right 08:03:18 put !whereis on Sequell? 08:03:31 !whereis needs to be on CAO. 08:03:32 No games for needs. 08:03:33 !whereis needs access to CAO's local filesystem 08:03:33 No games for needs. 08:03:38 oh okay 08:04:03 For that matter !ttyrec is pretty hard to do when not on the box 08:04:09 !lg n78291 -ttyrec 08:04:10 6443. 78291, XL27 SpBe, T:118206: http://crawl.develz.org/ttyrecs/78291/ 2010-06-27.16:17:45.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:37:23.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:38:59.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:40:13.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:41:28.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:44:28.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:47:13.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:54:59.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.17:58:20.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.18:13:09.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-27.18:22:... 08:04:14 ^^ can be slow 08:04:21 !lg casmith789 win -ttyrec 08:04:22 15. casmith789, XL27 DSMo, T:144396: http://crawl.develz.org/ttyrecs/casmith789/ 2010-06-11.21:13:33.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-12.09:09:21.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-12.11:35:45.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-12.11:35:51.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-12.21:30:17.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-16.13:23:19.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-17.07:25:45.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-17.07:27:39.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-17.08:02:43.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-17.08:05:21.ttyrec.bz2 2010-06-1... 08:04:32 !lg * s=map 08:04:33 693121 games for *: 691047x , 38x erik entry cave to civilisation, 37x dpeg entry thieves, 33x dpeg entry pits, 28x elethiomel entry 005 b, 27x dpeg entry snail, 25x kilobyte entry exit the forest, 24x dpeg entry orchard, 23x kb entry jail, 22x dpeg entry shelter, 22x dpeg entry water temple mockup, 22x zelgadis glass entry small, 21x dpeg entry simpleton b, 21x lemuel entry muddy, 21x onia entry ... 08:04:41 !lg * !D:1 s=map 08:04:42 434973 games for * (!D:1): 432948x , 36x dpeg entry thieves, 35x erik entry cave to civilisation, 33x dpeg entry pits, 28x elethiomel entry 005 b, 27x dpeg entry snail, 25x kilobyte entry exit the forest, 24x dpeg entry orchard, 23x kb entry jail, 22x zelgadis glass entry small, 22x dpeg entry water temple mockup, 21x onia entry pyramid, 21x dpeg entry simpleton b, 20x lemuel entry muddy, 20x erik... 08:04:43 oh niice 08:04:51 !lg * map=~due 08:04:52 No games for * (map=~due). 08:04:54 :( 08:05:02 greensnark: list of how often maps came up? 08:05:03 Hm, !D:1 isn't doing what I wanted 08:05:10 dpeg: Maps that players have died in 08:05:14 Or quit in 08:05:18 Which is by far the most common case :P 08:05:23 Someone's been scumming sttill? 08:05:23 bastards! 08:05:32 !lg * ktyp!=quitting|leaving s=map 08:05:36 464153 games for * (ktyp!=quitting|leaving): 464104x , 4x uniq crazy yiuf cottage, 3x tgw sif, 3x erik entry cave to civilisation, 3x sewer frog island 02, 2x sewer kobolds, 2x dpeg entry morbid curiosity, 1x dpeg entry central, 1x dpeg entry orchard, 1x lemuel entry muddy, 1x beehive2, 1x dpeg entry arbitrary b, 1x dpeg entry brainrot, 1x enne entry octagon isle, 1x dpeg entry chase, 1x elethiome... 08:05:45 :D 08:06:02 !lg 08:06:03 1332. bookofjude the Covered (L3 HOFi), slain by a snake on D:2 on 2010-07-02, with 77 points after 1484 turns and 0:03:02. 08:06:44 Ok, please let me know if there are any glitches in Henzell/Sequell 08:06:51 Ok, FooTV next 08:07:56 FooTV <3. 08:08:07 !ttyrec * cdo 08:08:07 144160. Grendel, XL1 DSCr, T:57: Can't find ttyrec! 08:08:11 :( 08:08:21 !lg * cdo 08:08:22 144160. Grendel the Skirmisher (L1 DSCr), slain by a hobgoblin on D:1 on 2010-07-02, with 49 points after 57 turns and 0:00:11. 08:08:24 !lg * cdo -ttyrec 08:08:25 144160. Grendel, XL1 DSCr, T:57: Can't find ttyrec! 08:08:30 * greensnark kicks Sequell. 08:08:44 What's the easiest way to get a list of colours usable in vaults? 08:08:49 !lg * Grendel -ttyrec 08:08:49 Malformed argument: Grendel 08:08:54 !lg Grendel -ttyrec 08:08:55 130. Grendel, XL1 DSCr, T:57: Can't find ttyrec! 08:08:57 The list must be somewhere :O 08:09:10 does it delete really small ttyrecs or something 08:09:27 No, -ttyrec is just buggy 08:09:39 It's new 08:09:45 dpeg: There's a list on docs/devel/level/design/syntax.txt 08:09:47 or somtehing like that 08:09:51 The old !ttyrec just peeked at CAO's fileesystem 08:10:28 due: I am there :) 08:10:31 !lg * splat 08:10:32 5291. sym the Executioner (L17 MiBe), worshipper of Trog, slain by a white ugly thing on Vault:5 on 2010-07-02, with 177071 points after 53170 turns and 5:10:23. 08:10:33 !lg * splat -tv 08:10:34 5291. sym, XL17 MiBe, T:53170 requested for FooTV. 08:10:53 !lg due splat 08:10:54 20. bookofjude the Halfling Catapult (L27 HaHu), worshipper of Trog, slain by a soul eater on Tar:7 on 2010-04-11, with 565571 points after 128411 turns and 20:28:52. 08:11:00 That counts as a splat? Feh. 08:11:36 Tar:7 08:11:43 True. 08:11:43 !lg * Grendel x=src,v 08:11:44 Malformed argument: Grendel 08:11:47 !lg Grendel x=src,v 08:11:47 131. [src=cdo;v=0.7.0-a1] Grendel the Skirmisher (L2 DSCr), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:2 on 2010-07-02, with 67 points after 1450 turns and 0:05:25. 08:11:53 !lg Grendel x=src,v,file 08:11:53 131. [src=cdo;v=0.7.0-a1;file=remote.cdo-logfile-svn] Grendel the Skirmisher (L2 DSCr), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:2 on 2010-07-02, with 67 points after 1450 turns and 0:05:25. 08:12:50 !lg Grendel x=src,v,file,end 08:12:50 131. [src=cdo;v=0.7.0-a1;file=remote.cdo-logfile-svn;end=2010-07-02 [20100602131050S]] Grendel the Skirmisher (L2 DSCr), blasted by Jessica (nerve-wracking pain) on D:2 on 2010-07-02, with 67 points after 1450 turns and 0:05:25. 08:12:57 -!- kofrad has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:14:39 in sprint, 12% time is spent in find_trap() which mindlessly iterates through the list of traps trying to find the one for a given pos 08:14:55 -!- kofrad has joined ##crawl-dev 08:15:03 it could be trivially reduced to near-zero with a trapgrid 08:15:13 KiloByte: Do it 08:16:52 I'm a bit afraid about breaking something for 0.7, I'll do it in a very cowardly way for 0.7 and then in a proper way for 0.8 08:17:35 unless there's very few places that can make/move a trap 08:17:36 KiloByte: awesome! 08:18:21 03enne.walker * r8d67fa0c042f 10/crawl-ref/CREDITS.txt: Add Risto Saarelma (rsaarelm) to the CREDITS. 08:18:22 uhm, what's awesome? Doing things cowardly for now, or...? 08:19:30 doing it! 08:19:40 03enne.walker 07stone_soup-0.7 * r757889f5dd99 10/crawl-ref/CREDITS.txt: Add Risto Saarelma (rsaarelm) to the CREDITS. 08:20:15 unable to assign macros to some keys on foreign keyboard (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1877) by galehar 08:21:49 I noticed I, once again, can't macro &~. By fixed it for a bit but then apparently changed something. 08:21:57 err I noticed that 08:23:19 I get &?~ instead 08:23:25 Is there a way to place known shafts? 08:23:34 err &||~ 08:23:41 (close enough) 08:24:31 or &\{-70}~ 08:25:23 KFEAT: a = shaft won't work 08:25:45 -!- ortoslon1 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:26:39 a = shaft trap does 08:26:45 'know shaft trap' 08:26:48 known 08:26:49 even 08:27:28 thanks 08:28:18 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 08:38:59 nigh tfolk 08:40:15 bye due! 08:44:27 -!- KiloByte has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:45:01 -!- dpeg has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:46:26 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 08:51:39 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:57:11 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 08:58:43 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:05:30 submerged monsters don't fight back when attacked with a weapon of reaching (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1878) by galehar 09:09:18 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:24:33 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:59:09 -!- KiloByte has joined ##crawl-dev 10:00:49 Broken subvault lua markers (Chapayev) (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1879) by enne 10:30:58 misleading spell description on rod (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1880) by galehar 11:10:26 -!- EroN1 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:54 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 11:23:59 Hurk! 11:24:30 !tell felirx Do you want to convert the sprint choice menu to PrecisionMenu for 0.7? 11:24:31 by: OK, I'll let felirx know. 11:25:13 I lost my entry.des when angband.pl died :( 11:26:09 unsaved in editor? 11:26:23 -!- xyblor_ has joined ##crawl-dev 11:27:49 by: yes 11:27:53 sometimes emacs does better 11:28:05 it's not too bad, only mildly annoying 11:28:12 some editors autosave 11:28:24 tramp rules! 11:29:03 vim or emacs should make an autobackup file? 11:29:15 -!- xyblor has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:30:11 bhaak: I've seen that with emacs, yes. 11:30:17 probalby just the angband.pl defaults :) 11:30:23 or I didn't find it 11:31:13 but really, look at tramp for emacs: remote file editing. it's wonderful 11:31:35 I prefer to edit files locally and send them around using VCS :P 11:34:25 bhaak: what do I do? =) 11:34:37 by: I can do that tomorrow 11:34:37 felirx: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 11:34:40 (1/2) Poor_Yurik said (1d 22h 46m 57s ago): ok, I can look into the tutorial thing. 11:34:41 !messages 11:34:41 !messages 11:34:42 (1/1) by said (10m 11s ago): Do you want to convert the sprint choice menu to PrecisionMenu for 0.7? 11:35:09 dpeg: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/TrampMode 11:35:15 thanks 11:36:27 -!- xyblor_ is now known as xyblor 11:47:13 WHat is the correct way to put down a very good item (|) with KITEM? 11:51:36 I used to know this, but syntax.txt does not help here. 11:51:50 Does KITEM: a = | not work 11:52:27 aha 11:52:41 Mathematicians overcomplicate everything :P 11:53:48 in my case, the line looks recursive: KITEM: | = | :) 12:01:08 ?!orc 12:01:13 @?orc 12:01:13 orc (04o) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 4-10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Damage: 5 | Res: 06magic(4) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 2. 12:01:16 @?leech 12:01:16 unknown monster: "leech" 12:01:19 @?giant leech 12:01:19 giant leech (05w) | Speed: 8 | HD: 6 | Health: 30-60 | AC/EV: 5/15 | Damage: 2005(vampiric) | Flags: amphibious, evil | Res: 06magic(24) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 86. 12:28:29 -!- shockwave has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:37 -!- shockwave has quit [Client Quit] 12:31:02