00:05:51 -!- by has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:25:21 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 00:31:53 -!- Niccus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:35:06 Give warpers dispersal darts (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1823) by OG17 00:40:00 I need a map with a writhing swarm of nasty but puny monsters. 00:40:05 Ideas? 00:40:15 Blink frogs? 00:48:24 puny as in made of puns, or puny as in tiny? 00:48:59 All of the above suffice. 00:50:42 a room filled with imps with wands fo random effects. 00:50:54 ... 00:50:56 I love you <333 00:53:12 What have I done 00:55:53 One day I'm going to die to that room, I know it. 01:11:34 03greensnark * r4d34d7b48b18 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.cc: Fix monster speech crash (!lm * type=crash 51) 01:11:36 03greensnark * rfd6a5325f21d 10/crawl-ref/source/ (files.cc macro.cc): Fix crash on MacOS when building without SAVEDIR set and DGAMELAUNCH enabled. 01:11:38 03greensnark * r16e38063240f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (hiscores.cc hiscores.h): Save 1-based absdepth in logfile and milestone records. 01:14:33 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 01:45:28 Crash on DS mutation, broken mutation after reload (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1824) by serg271 01:48:28 -!- xale has quit [Quit: xale] 01:56:23 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:07 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 03:54:41 -!- Niccus has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:56:00 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:56:51 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:05:31 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 04:15:28 -!- Twinge has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15:36 -!- Twinge has joined ##crawl-dev 04:33:09 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:34:20 -!- due has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:34:27 -!- due has joined ##crawl-dev 04:51:17 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:51:27 notify when item in shoplist becomes wearable (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1825) by ortoslon 04:53:58 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 04:59:53 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 05:14:11 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28:21 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:33:56 mu! <3 05:34:24 yo 05:34:54 what do i need to do to get the secret project 05:36:38 ty due 05:39:49 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:40:28 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:28 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:40:56 yaay 06:23:44 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 06:44:13 -!- ortoslon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:50:15 -!- greensnark has quit [Quit: leaving] 07:00:09 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 07:03:32 wb snarkk wihch is green 07:04:15 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:04:42 -!- by has joined ##crawl-dev 07:04:48 hey rob! 07:05:09 hi 07:06:16 Hm. 07:15:25 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:31:15 -!- greensnark has quit [Quit: Changing server] 07:35:35 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 09:07:07 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:09:41 Any thing we're still waiting on before we branch 0.7? 09:12:31 I don't think so? 09:12:46 did we pick a release manager? 09:14:05 I thought Napkin was chosen? 09:14:13 nope :-P 09:14:31 !killsby grinder 09:14:31 No games for * (ckiller=grinder) 09:14:33 * due eats Napkin. 09:14:39 i can't even motivate myself to update sprint on CDO ;) 09:14:49 hehe 09:14:53 it needs to be updated? 09:14:58 Ok, I shall branch 0.7 this weekend 09:15:05 Yay snark which is green 09:15:20 We need tiles still... 09:15:33 Lots of tiles? 09:15:35 And not sure what's being worked on with DS (Cryptic?) 09:15:58 Well, if 0.7 is going to be in sufficiently before tourney, we need to branch soon 09:16:04 Yeah 09:16:12 No, we can branch right now I think. 09:16:59 due, final balancing and testing. The only major (bug? feature?) that I might try and squeeze in is the fix for ds mutations failing when you have a random mutation which conflicts with the upcoming ds mut. 09:17:26 We need 0.7 branched and out before July, yeah? 09:17:40 why? 09:17:58 I can't see any benefits from having 0.7 out any day before July 31th. 09:18:11 Rephrase 09:18:24 Yeah 09:18:28 I'm tired, ignore me. 09:19:03 it's much easier to fix bugs in trunk or beta than in stable 09:19:17 That's whatI meant 09:21:21 KiloByte: If 0.7 is out any later than July 10 or so, its not going to be used for tourney 09:21:36 er, why? 09:21:49 I don't want to waste tourney time bugfixing a new release 09:22:07 rax: 09:22:10 that's what beta is for 09:22:10 Er. 09:22:25 Sorry, hit tab and enter at the same time. 09:22:31 KiloByte: cdo beta period is fine, but as long as it's trunk new changes keep going in 09:22:49 The 0.7 branch needs to bake long enough to be stable 09:22:59 * due bakes greensnark. 09:23:00 And run as stable on both servers at least a couple of weeks 09:23:23 Otherwise bugs during tourney become a clusterfuck that directly screws with the server admins' existence 09:23:27 the first makes sense, yeah. But the latter... 09:23:37 rax had issues with the release of 0.5 shortly before last tourney. 09:23:46 0.5.1? 09:24:12 how long was 0.5 frozen? 09:24:29 * due gone anyway. 09:24:45 * KiloByte too, going home. 09:45:37 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 10:05:12 greensnark: go ahead and branch now if you like 10:22:18 So who is the RM for 0.7? 10:39:41 who is the dgamelaunch around here? 10:39:48 *dgamelaunch pro 10:50:47 bhaak: Napking or paxed 10:51:49 paxed is dancing naked around fire at the moment, so he won't answer :) 10:51:56 by: I'd like to check with Enne, and I'm off out, so laters 10:52:07 bye greensnark 10:52:18 bhaak: paxed is always dancing naked around a fire. If you wait for him to stop, you'll have a long wait :P 10:52:34 :-) 10:54:29 Napkin: do you have any patches in your dgl that differ from svn r575? unnethack curses is not watchable on un.nethack.nu because it deactivate ncurses before shown the ttyrec. But crawl also uses ncurses although I never experienced any problems watching somebody 11:16:00 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 11:42:14 hey bhaak 11:42:30 i don't know what exactly is svn r575 of dgl 11:42:36 -!- stabwound has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:43:02 Napkin: current trunk 11:43:11 but the dgl on CDO deaktivates curses too before showing the ttyrec, because tty_play is not curses 11:43:15 so, that's normal 11:44:04 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:44:05 hmm, interesting 11:44:23 take a ttyrec and play it in a separate player for testing? 11:44:43 maybe crawl doesn't use those curses features that let it break with the curses gui for NH? 11:44:57 and here is our git branch: http://git.develz.org/?p=dgamelaunch.git;a=summary 11:45:16 ipbt works okay, but ttyplay also breaks with those curses ttyrecs 11:46:14 what is your casting server using to play back the crawl ttyrecs, greensnark? 11:46:23 ipbt is special, isn't it? 11:46:35 much more tolerant, if i remember correctly 11:47:16 what problems exactly are you experiencing when watching someone? 11:49:52 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 11:50:53 ipbt is a much more convienent ttyrec player 11:51:13 but even ttyplay plays them correctly if I add an initscr() from the curses lib 11:51:32 add it where? 11:51:45 into ttyplay? :-O 11:51:49 yes 11:51:52 erm 11:52:23 sounds like something is really wrong 11:52:41 i mean.. people have been trying to have a tty-player in ncurses for a long time 11:53:54 well, i have no clue - greensnark, KiloByte and paxed are the ones you should talk to 11:54:21 you can look at un.nethack.nu, how distorted it looks 11:54:41 it seems that the cursor isn't correctly placed, 11:55:35 does crawl use separate curses windows for the status lines and map? or only one window? 11:55:54 * greensnark returns. 11:56:08 bhaak: It's all one window 11:56:32 Napkin: I use Term::TtyRec::Plus from cpan 11:56:38 hmm, maybe that's why it's no problem 11:56:49 And Term::VT102 to assemble ttyrec frames into a starting screen 11:57:17 The frame assembling is rather slow and unreliable, so I'd like to switch to something better 11:57:21 in theory, the tty_recorder records the chars purely from the screen, bhaak 11:57:33 not caring about what produced them (ncurses, slang, etc) 11:57:46 The ttyrec code is right there in dgl, right 11:58:23 so it shouldn't matter whether you open one or 50 ncurses windows/panels whatever 11:58:39 It's just a blocking read on the pty fd and writing that with a timestamp 11:58:42 but i only have gefährliches Halbwissen ;) 12:01:09 greensnark is the geek ;-P 12:01:16 i'm just watching ;> 12:01:35 \o/ 12:01:50 Enne: Would there be issues in branching 0.7 Real Soon Now, like this weekend? 12:02:28 arg.. reminds me to finally setup new sprint on CDO :-$ 12:02:43 Napkin: yes, recording is not the problem. The generated ttyrec seems to be fine. 12:03:02 no, no new sprint on CDO, the old one is hard enough! 12:03:15 -!- kerio has joined ##crawl-dev 12:03:17 bhaak: Does the ttyrec play in standalone players? 12:03:28 i.e. is the problem only in dgamelaunch ttyplay? 12:03:30 greensnark: ttyplay no, all other, yes 12:03:39 Mmm 12:03:51 dgamelaunch's ttyplay is based on the original ttyplay, so that's to be expected 12:03:55 bhaak> but even ttyplay plays them correctly if I add an initscr() from the curses lib 12:04:11 what do you think of that, greensnark? 12:04:51 Weird :) 12:05:07 KiloByte is the terminal emulator guru, but he's not around 12:05:10 BUT there's no difference in the ttyrec of a ttyplay playing such a curses ttyrec with or without a initscr() 12:05:38 pardon what? 12:05:50 bhaak: Weird :) 12:06:03 * Napkin is lost and shuts up * 12:06:23 Napkin: He means ttyplay foo.ttyrec >out.txt and ttyplay-with-initscr foo.ttyrec >out.txt produce same out.txt 12:06:40 yes 12:06:43 ah 12:07:07 clearly, magic is involved 12:07:35 or the ttyrec timing screws up some control codes 12:07:46 and more intelligent tty players can work around it, but ttyplay can't 12:08:29 kerio: ttyplay + one call of initscr() is not really "intelligent" 12:08:45 that's a combination of dumb player and dumb terminal 12:09:09 there's no need for the proper control codes from the ttyrec because initscr does that already 12:09:31 (this is a wild guess, mind you) 12:09:59 the question is, why isn't the initscr showing up on the terminal? 12:10:05 curses must be doing something that doesn't go to stdout 12:10:51 I looked at the ncurses code and it didn't do much more than initialize some variables and setting to terminal to some raw mode 12:10:57 IIRC 12:13:49 bhaak: were you using the same terminal throughout all of this? 12:13:59 kerio: sure 12:14:04 and does dgamelaunch/nethack in the jail know about your terminal? 12:14:49 yes, because telnetd's also in the jail, I think 12:14:50 kerio: the one where the player is playing: yes. the one where the user is watching: it doesn't care 12:14:59 bhaak: I wonder if this is something to do with using curses getch() after endwin() in ttylay 12:15:02 *ttyplay 12:15:52 Will getch() be in the right frame of mind after an endwin()? :) 12:17:00 greensnark: I'm not sure where you're heading, but the original ttyplay doesn't use getch() 12:17:15 Oh, and it has the same bug, right 12:17:23 Ok, drop that line of thought 12:19:50 :) 12:20:06 bhaak: Playing the ttyrec from beginning doesn't work for ttyplay, right? 12:20:11 so and now trying to tackle the \e[2J issue :) 12:20:20 greensnark: nope 12:20:56 greensnark: the only thing I noticed, playing it with ttyplay looks almost the same as just cat $ttyrec 12:22:41 bhaak: You have a sample ttyrec link? :) 12:23:37 bhaak: it was outputting timestamps onscreen? 12:24:17 http://un.nethack.nu/users/bhaak/ttyrecs/2010-06-25.16:53:54.ttyrec.bz2 12:24:49 bhaak: What term size was this? 12:25:12 oh, larger than 80x24 :) 12:25:23 More specific? :P 12:26:00 100x34 12:27:08 ais523: yes, but besides the timestamps it looks the same 12:27:31 well, apart from timestamps, cat and ttyplay /should/ look the same 12:27:36 but that is probably not THAT surprising as ttyplay doesn't do much more than that 12:27:42 :) 12:41:52 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:43:16 -!- MaryPoppins is now known as Adeon 12:54:49 greensnark: No issues with branching right now. I would really like to merge yuriktiles into 0.7, but I think it's low risk and can come later before release. 12:55:20 It seems better to stabilize anything that might affect the tournament sooner rather than later. 12:57:47 Enne: Ok, I'm fine with tiles changes that you've reviewed going into the branch 13:00:25 greensnark: Sounds good. I'll go ahead and merge once that work is wrapped up. 13:02:14 yuriktiles? 13:03:28 It's a branch containing a bunch of new tiles from Poor_Yurik. 13:03:54 The default dungeon tiles now look like this: http://picasaweb.google.com/Enne.Walker/DungeonCrawlStoneSoup#5486338114434571106 13:07:25 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:12:03 crawl sucks btw 13:12:04 -!- kerio has left ##crawl-dev 13:23:37 Poor kerio cannot live without Elbereth inscribed on every square foot of sidewalk :P 13:26:12 does he play anything but vanilla nethack, I wonder 13:26:23 He plays Un 13:26:27 whoa 13:26:32 His favourite feature being ^E to autoinscribe Elbereth :P 13:26:55 bhaak is too forgiving toward Elbereth 13:27:01 why does one need to inscribe it, anyway? Why not just have a "make this bugger go away" command! 13:27:27 Zaba: It is exactly that command :P 13:27:51 yes, but why make it inscribing, or call it elbereth, at all? That's all nonsense and doesn't matter :P 13:28:17 They should have just made "Owlbreath" the significant engraving :P 13:29:27 Owlbears are naturally immune? 13:29:49 Sounds reasonable 13:36:23 Owlbreath is just a random engraving :) 13:38:34 the fact you have to write on the ground makes a significant difference to gameplay 13:39:17 thank god dpeg is not around :-) 13:40:57 Zaba: making it "Elbereth" is a LOTR reference 13:43:26 Talk about perverting LOTR to the point where Tolkien would have shot himself 13:43:53 * greensnark heartily loathes Elbereth :P 13:44:03 yes, NetHack tend to be rather slapdash with their references 13:44:09 in the original it only worked on Nazgul 13:44:10 greensnark, why are you starting to talk about angband? 13:44:30 greensnark: why don't you like Elbereth? 13:44:31 bhaak: Angband has numerous defects, but Elbereth engraving is not one of them :) 13:44:46 You could almost forgive Angband for being Angband because it doesn't have Elbereth :) 13:45:01 now that's an advertising slogan! 13:45:17 "We are less broken, just because we don't have Elbereth!" 13:45:35 Yeah, 0.7 Crawl release codename could be "Still no Elbereth!" 13:45:42 they have SpPa in sprint though 13:45:56 TSO is terribly broken anyway 13:46:09 The specific Sprint exploit will be fixed before 0.7 13:46:19 But the general TSO endgame OP-ness remains 13:46:33 he isn't OP 13:46:36 We also have amusing slideshows such as Nemelex being broken 13:46:38 Yes he is 13:46:48 then nearly all gods are 13:46:51 I don't expect everyone to agree with me on this, though 13:46:53 casmith789: it's just that everyone else is underpowered? 13:47:03 makhleb, kiku, tso, nemelex, sif, vehumet 13:47:07 TSO is definitely the god of choice for 15-runers 13:47:11 to name but 5 more 13:47:22 Vehumet being OP is new :P 13:47:27 and you'd think there'd be more variety if all the gods were equally good lategame 13:47:33 Several of the fixed gods have become too good 13:47:49 zin? 13:47:56 I didn't say "all" 13:48:00 dpeg could like the "Still no Elbereth!" 13:48:12 how can you say he isn't overpowered after beating sprint 8 times with TSO and nothing else 13:48:17 no 13:48:20 this isn't sprint 13:48:27 he's obviously OP in sprint 13:48:31 oh 13:48:43 The sprint piety thing needs to be fixed before tourney 13:48:55 he isn't as overpowered as he used to be 13:49:07 oh wait 13:49:10 HP gain 13:49:30 shows I don't play TSO much :P 13:49:31 makhleb is better than TSO pretty much except for rN+++ 13:50:15 makhleb greater destruction and summons could use tweaking. 13:50:31 Greater demons makes the situation worse until invo is high, thus isn't great in emergencies. 13:50:40 and greater destruction takes too much piety / mana 13:50:44 iirc 13:50:46 brb 13:50:50 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:50:58 Wait, what, he wants to make Makhleb stronger? 13:51:57 Anyway, Crawl is definitely suffering from balance failure in many departments 13:52:01 yup 13:52:10 However, it still doesn't have Elbereth :) 13:52:18 it has equivalents 13:52:30 Usable by every character at almost every point in the game? :) 13:52:34 yup 13:52:40 Ok, what are they? 13:52:45 meph 13:52:52 or evap 13:52:58 Yeah, meph is bad 13:53:05 However, I don't consider it even close to Elb 13:53:11 why? 13:53:12 Which allows D:1 character to write in dust 13:53:18 yeah 13:53:22 And buy time from a staggering variety of monsters 13:53:26 Up to and including Demogorgon 13:53:27 nethack has a 72% chance of elbereth from d:1 13:53:31 crawl has 100 deaths instead 13:53:49 Meph definitely scales too well 13:55:18 greensnark: have you ascended unnethack yet? That has an Elbereth that doesn't scale as well 13:55:35 I haven't played much Un 13:55:36 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 13:55:39 I don't use Elbereth anyway 13:55:56 I hardly do, only if I'm in trouble 13:56:02 casmith789: Well, when else 13:56:10 "only when I'm in trouble", so it's not a problem? :P 13:56:21 well I'm hardly ever in trouble 13:56:21 for example for raping major demons 13:56:23 meph I use all the time 13:56:59 Ok, so you like Elbereth better than Meph overall? :) 13:57:19 You're entitled to your opinion! 14:43:42 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:45:16 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:48:41 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 14:58:07 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 15:22:17 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:53:54 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:27:32 -!- Niccus has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 17:32:36 greensnark: there's an off-by-1 problem in your AEVP change. In one place you use random2(1 + x) instead of rolldice(1, x) like everywhere else -- and it doesn't look correct in that place 17:33:26 with it, one-handed weapons have larger shield penalty than 1.5-handed ones 18:14:11 xyblor (L16 KoPr) ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed. (D:17) 18:15:07 KiloByte: I don't see the problem: rolldice(1,x) [1,x] has a higher average value than random2(1+x) [0,x] 18:15:32 Also the one-hander speed penalty is min of two random2 rolls 18:17:11 !lm xyblor type=crash -log 18:17:12 1. xyblor, XL16 KoPr, T:42258 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/xyblor/crash-xyblor-20100625-231410.txt 18:19:46 roll_dice() is [0..x-1] 18:19:57 ? 18:19:59 Since when? 18:20:08 random2(x) is [0..x-1] 18:20:13 roll-dice(1,x) is [1,x] 18:21:46 roll_dice(k,x) is the sum of k random2(x) calls 18:22:04 and as such, for k=1, identical to random2(x) 18:23:01 No, roll_dice actually does the XdY dieroll 18:23:10 Zero is not a possible value from roll-dice 18:23:23 Well, unless X or Y is 0 18:23:53 it does [0..x-1] both in current trunk and in the first commit in the repository 18:24:05 Are we looking at the same code? :) 18:24:24 random.cc, line 137 and further 18:24:25 The random_var roll_dice is slightly different but produces the same result as the direct roll_dice 18:24:40 KiloByte: yes, ret += num before the random2 rolls 18:24:57 So for roll_dice(1,x), you get 1 + random2(x) = [1..x] 18:25:01 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:25:55 ah right 18:26:28 right, I need to get my eyes checked then :p 18:29:34 -!- eith_ has joined ##crawl-dev 18:32:40 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:33:11 -!- eith_ is now known as eith 19:18:20 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 19:57:32 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 20:01:03 morning 20:02:50 -!- syllogism has quit [] 20:08:09 A quiet day for development. 20:10:20 !lm * type=crash -log 20:10:20 52. xyblor, XL16 KoPr, T:42258 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/xyblor/crash-xyblor-20100625-231410.txt 20:10:27 Morning due on the grass 20:25:08 03greensnark * r05f8ab4528bc 10/crawl-ref/source/initfile.cc: Drop fsim default #rounds to 4000 since combat is much slower now. 20:25:09 03greensnark * r6084bd9eee68 10/crawl-ref/source/spl-util.cc: Add bounds checks to apply_area_cloud. (fixes crash: !lm xyblor type=crash 1). 20:29:37 -!- ortoslon has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:35:52 The yo-dawg-go-fetch-the-orb messages are quite out of place in Sprint 20:35:59 Especially all the "orb is deep down" messages 20:36:01 this is true 20:36:08 * due fixes 20:36:13 Thanks :) 20:36:24 I was afraid I'd have to add a *hinthint* there :) 20:36:33 :p 20:36:54 you can use "and"? wow. 20:36:57 I thought you had to use &&. 20:37:20 Where is "and" used? 20:37:28 main.cc:295 20:37:39 The line I'm changing to disable goals in Sprint. 20:38:13 Ah 20:38:37 I was technically aware that "and" is available, but it still surprised me :) 20:38:54 I've never seen anyone actually use these before http://www.cppreference.com/wiki/alternative_operators 20:39:48 I've done it automatically when I've been coding python or whatever and switched back to C++ to quickly. 20:43:15 Fixed. 20:43:34 03due * ra89a484043a8 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: Don't announce goals in Sprint. 20:49:45 GOAL! 20:49:58 Speaking of which, I want a refund for the hour I spent watching the Brazil v Portugal game 20:50:42 The Argentines were more fun to watch for 2 minutes than that entire game 20:52:12 I have no idea what to do. 20:57:18 Enne: There? 21:01:32 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:01:57 03greensnark * r068ee31147d6 10/crawl-ref/source/religion.cc: Disable passive piety gain for the good gods in Sprint (casmith789). 21:01:58 03greensnark * r426447955c32 10/crawl-ref/source/main.cc: you.num_turns is now int, fix comparison with LONG_MAX (warning noises on Mac x64 build). 21:04:14 03due * r89ebc6aedccc 10/crawl-ref/source/ng-setup.cc: Give warpers dispersal darts. (Mantis #1823). 21:04:43 Ok, any last requests before 0.7 branch? 21:04:48 Hm 21:04:55 Joseph's speec hand descriptions 21:04:59 But that can get merged later 21:05:07 I fought him last night and he has nothing interesting despite having new kit. 21:05:25 Ok 21:05:47 Anything interesting on Mantis that needs fixed urgently? 21:06:03 DS crash... cryptic is working on tihs? 21:06:11 Bugfixes can go into master and I'll merge them into 0.7 21:06:24 * due nod. 21:06:36 Go ahead, then, I'll work on Joseph. 21:06:46 !seen pointless_ 21:06:47 I last saw pointless_ at Fri Jun 25 04:13:18 2010 UTC (21h 53m 29s ago) quitting with message Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.4/20100611143157]. 21:06:51 I would like articulated_kraken 21:06:54 If it's ready 21:06:57 Me too 21:07:11 Did you AEVP change resolve #1816? 21:07:14 But there were tiles complications there as well, right? 21:07:21 https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1816 21:07:24 Hm, true. Enne? 21:07:42 Ok, I'll branch now and if the kraken are ready I'll merge them later 21:07:54 03dolorous * r794994613c69 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Update the 0.7 changelog again. 21:08:12 Hm, I should sign up for c-r-discuss for the next month or so 21:08:15 * greensnark does so. 21:08:17 You should :) 21:08:24 We need a solid to-do now, I think. 21:14:17 Ok, branched 21:14:50 Brilliant, I subscribed to crawl-ref-commits instead of crawl-ref-discuss 21:15:40 go greensnark! 21:15:47 greensnark is the 0.7 pumpking? 21:15:56 Unless someone else volunteers 21:16:08 My free time in July will be patchy, but I will have weekends 21:18:45 Hm, bah. 21:18:49 So many of the uniques are so boring. 21:20:25 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 21:25:30 kay, found joseph's descrpition 21:25:32 now need speeech 21:27:38 easier: tell the player he's mute 21:28:14 ... 21:28:35 although I guess he still would need to gesture 21:33:31 Didn't we turn Joseph into a shield&sling fighter? 21:33:37 Yup. 21:33:46 And ey's still boring? 21:33:47 Needs a bit of tweakking, I think. 21:34:00 He's still got the same speech/description. 21:35:11 Why is talking still a free action for monsters? 21:35:23 We removed free action talking for the PC 21:36:08 does enemy chatter actually make noise? 21:37:13 I miss the good old days when ordering your allies was a silent free action 21:37:19 Also the orc priest smite bug 21:48:19 I forgot that we now moderate c-r-d 21:52:36 I need to ask rax to finalise tournament scoring rules 21:53:07 !tell rax Could you send me final set of tourney rules? Also there are three new gods (Chei, Jiyva, Fedhas) that might need banners, and Kiku's banner may need changes. 21:53:08 greensnark: OK, I'll let rax know. 21:53:34 Don't know if Onia's around to do banners for this year though 21:54:27 I don't thin kshe is 21:54:31 I haven't seen her online in a few months? 21:54:52 Yes, she seems to be in Crawl detox :) 22:08:33 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 22:29:59 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne] 23:12:48 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 23:17:28 Enne: greensnark branched 0.7, do we have a tiles to-do list? 23:17:56 I can make one, although what's up with spriggans in 0.7? 23:18:04 I'm not sure, really. 23:18:12 The spriggan monsters? 23:18:17 There's four new monsters that need tiles for Sprint... 23:18:26 I think that's about it, though? 23:18:36 Damn it, i thoguht of something earlier that was important but I forgot to write it down. 23:18:59 I've sent a 0.7 mail to c-r-d but it's moderator-pending 23:19:11 Unsubscribing from c-r-d has its drawbacks :) 23:19:12 nat shoulld let it through, I guess? 23:19:20 why don't you just switch to no-mail? can you do that? 23:19:21 Yes, when he's up 23:19:30 Yeah, the Spriggan monsters. I assume those exist and need Poor_Yurik to finish up tiles for? 23:19:33 Demonspawn with cloven feet can wear boots (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1826) by tinyrodent 23:19:40 Yeah, I'll just set up a filter next time 23:19:43 Actually, yeah, they exist and an spawn 23:19:57 I think they're in a rare vault. 23:20:05 Should we do a new wiki page for to-do tiles? 23:20:09 I can do descriptions of all the new uniques. 23:20:11 Yeah, probably. 23:20:48 Ok, thanks for the Spriggan clarification. I didn't know if they spawned or were just meant to go in some new forest branch that doesn't exist yet. 23:21:16 I think they're only in one or two vaults, so if really necessary, they could get removed... 23:21:28 If nobody beats me to it, I'll make a to-do list tomorrow when I have a chance. 23:21:34 I was going to do something with the earth elemental tile to make an iron elemental but me + art = hilariously bad 23:21:43 Enne: Great, thanks 23:24:55 iron elemental has Fe as its symbol, right? 23:25:53 sorear: hehehe 23:26:57 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 23:27:40 !tell rax Can I put 0.7 alpha on cao for testing? 0.7 is branched now, and cao gets more traffic than cdo 23:27:40 greensnark: OK, I'll let rax know. 23:31:24 Which canned message is fizzles? 23:31:42 Oh, none. 23:32:20 I really hacked this in a bad way, but it does the trick. 23:35:57 03due * r606fa220530b 10/crawl-ref/source/ (spells4.cc spells4.h spl-cast.cc spl-cast.h): Allow victory dancing Fulsome Distillation. 23:36:00 canned_msg is pure evil 23:36:06 Yeah. 23:49:43 St. Roka should walk on water (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1827) by OG17 23:55:18 03greensnark * r909c0179abe0 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-act.cc: Give monsters a better HD save vs mephitic cloud. 23:56:04 greensnark nerfed mephitic cloud, omg!