00:13:43 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 00:20:00 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 02:23:29 -!- jld has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 02:51:59 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 02:56:42 -!- jld has joined ##crawl-dev 03:13:49 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:22:56 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:24 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 03:24:29 !seen bhaak 03:24:29 I last saw bhaak at Tue Jun 22 20:21:44 2010 UTC (12h 2m 45s ago) saying and you are busy! on ##crawl-dev. 03:24:38 bhaak: we need to talk! 03:24:54 dpeg: what have I done? 03:25:19 bhaak: did you see Pat Rankin's reply to the vampires? 03:25:52 He seems to have a feeling for balance and for spoiler(ness) -- just not for his own game. I am quite non-plussed. 03:25:55 dpeg: yeah, second non-technical reply by him. the world really comes to an end. 03:26:29 I am a bit surprised that he spoke out against vampires so hard 03:26:44 This is your take... I find his answer to be extremely interesting, it is almost contradictory (not within the posting, but with Nethack). 03:27:07 you could say that they are food-wise worse than monks, but without the advantages of bare-handed fighting 03:27:41 Nethack is full of spoiler needs, yet he accuses techniques of needing spoilers. Nethack is full of imbalancies, yet he accuses Slashem roles of being unbalanced. 03:28:00 well, compared to nethack, slashem is :) 03:28:06 just a relative pov 03:28:22 bhaak: I like Vampires, we added them to DCSS :) I believe they make a fine component for any serious fork! 03:29:14 if he thinks that nethack is fine as it is balance- and spoiler-wise, slashem is of course worse. not as worse as someone with crawl's pov would claim, but still worse 03:29:23 sure 03:30:09 I'm surprised that he favors the amulet of flying. that opens up so many slots for overpowering the player 03:30:20 To him, NH is the universal benchmark -- he simply might not know other games of the type. 03:30:22 hey, in NetHack you can wear an amulet of unchanging, I did just 10 or so ascensions, but a vampire lord was among them 03:30:31 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 03:31:01 (although I just thought about adding the amulet or something similar to be able to give it to non-flying monster, as the newly added scroll of flood is an easy method to drown monsters now) 03:31:05 hi david 03:31:25 Hi due! 03:31:27 hi due 03:31:52 hi adam :) 03:32:27 KiloByte: although the vampires in slashem are a bit different than in vanilla, and pat spoke against slashem's kind of vampire 03:33:24 but I also agree with him that slashem's medical kits are awful. breaking the standard ui AND the game play 03:34:13 slashem is just a pile of random patches added without the slightest regard for balance 03:35:00 so pointing out certain changes that break game play is like shooting fish in a barrel 03:35:26 yes, but they admit that it is. the most you got from vanilla's devteam to game balance problems is that they won't add new roles as the old ones aren't really differentiated enough :) 03:36:35 bhaak: just show the world how a well-balanced Vampire in NH could look like. 03:37:34 dpeg: I don't do impossible things before breakfeast! (and as I almost never eat breakfast ;-) 03:38:49 !send bhaak apple & egg 03:38:49 Sending apple & egg to bhaak. 03:39:00 dpeg: I added the playable vampire race as a "hard" option. We already got 2 vanilla players because of them \o/ but at the moment I don't know yet what or how they need to be changed. time will tell 03:39:57 the only thing I really don't like is that they are able to pray. that feels so un-vampiric. but without praying they would starve even more than they already do 03:41:01 bhaak: what about a tradeoff: no prayer, but you relax the nutrition woes? Crawl Vampires cannot starve, btw, but they won't regenerate if bloodless (=0 satiation). 03:42:21 talking physics here, back later 03:45:07 physicspeg! 03:46:22 dpeg: have to think about that. I don't want to make unnethack into a crawl-clone :) but something like that might work 03:46:39 why not?crawl is great. ;) 03:49:15 if I would want to do a crawl-clone, I would fork crawl and as a first commit remove the "don't let nethack developers win" code :-) 04:00:26 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:05:49 * due in ur crawl, clonin' it. 04:05:56 :o 04:57:33 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:57:50 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 05:00:27 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 05:18:18 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:31:50 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 05:32:19 mornin' 05:39:53 -!- Ashenzari has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:40:41 -!- Ashenzari has joined ##crawl-dev 05:40:43 -!- The topic of ##crawl-dev is: DCSS development channel! | Logs: http://tozt.net/crawl | People with +v have commit access. | Please keep general crawl-related chit-chat to ##crawl. | Dev wiki: http://crawl.develz.org/wiki | Ashenzari source: http://github.com/doy/crawlbot | Long stuff to pastebin.ca please. 05:49:24 -!- ais523 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49:51 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:49:56 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 05:58:39 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 06:09:52 ??cyclops 06:09:52 cyclops[1/1]: They throw large rocks, then close to melee. Those rocks can hurt, be careful if you're a mage. Slow. 06:11:44 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 06:18:23 hey mu 06:23:39 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 06:40:04 Trap under fungus (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1814) by Core Xii 06:42:20 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 06:47:51 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:53:52 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 06:54:27 -!- bmh has left ##crawl-dev 06:55:11 hey 06:59:59 !fight Grinder v Sigmund 07:00:00 greensnark: You have 2 messages. Use !messages to read them. 07:00:57 Coo 07:01:04 !tell dpeg snarktest volcano is WEIGHT: 0 since it was just a demo. Should be safe to remove now. 07:01:05 greensnark: OK, I'll let dpeg know. 07:01:08 !fight grinder v sigmund 07:01:24 @?? grinder 07:01:24 Grinder (025) | Speed: 10 | HD: 6 | Health: 40 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Damage: 11 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(24), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 281 | Sp: pain (d10), paralyse, blink, brain feed. 07:01:29 !fight grinder v sigmund t:10 delay:0 07:01:35 @?? jessica 07:01:35 Jessica (15@) | Speed: 10 | HD: 1 | Health: 10 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Damage: 5 | Flags: evil, spellcaster | Res: 06magic(4) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 25 | Sp: pain (d7), slow, haste, blink. 07:01:39 relatively evenly matched. 07:01:44 !fight grinder v grum 07:01:50 !fight grinder v Sigmund t:49 delay:0 07:02:18 greensnark: Unsurprisingly, the first complaint was "not enuff exp". 07:02:28 :) 07:02:38 !lm * uniq=Grinder 07:02:39 No milestones for * (uniq=Grinder). 07:02:40 stupid ##crawl exp whores :( 07:02:43 KiloByte: nobody yet 07:02:44 what about phat loot 07:02:46 !lg * killer=grinder 07:02:46 No games for * (killer=grinder). 07:03:00 Is grinder up on cdo? 07:03:06 I think I met grinder last night. 07:03:07 !lm * uniq=griner 07:03:08 No milestones for * (uniq=griner). 07:03:09 !lm * uniq=grinder 07:03:09 No milestones for * (uniq=grinder). 07:03:23 oh 07:03:46 Yes, he's been up since last night 07:03:52 * due just impatient. 07:04:25 @?? shadow imp 07:04:26 shadow imp (065) | Speed: 10 | HD: 2 | Health: 6-16 | AC/EV: 3/11 | Damage: 6 | Flags: 05demonic, evil, see invisible | Res: 06magic(8), 02cold++, 03poison | XP: 11 | Sp: pain (d8), animate dead. 07:04:40 exceedingly buff shadow imp 07:07:11 @?? imp 07:07:12 imp (055) | Speed: 10 | HD: 3 | Health: 9-18 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Damage: 4 | Flags: 05demonic, fly | Res: 06magic(36), 05hellfire, 03poison | Vul: 12cold | XP: 48 | Sp: blink. 07:07:25 do shadow imps regenerate like imps? I'm guessing no 07:07:36 no, :) 07:07:43 aww 07:09:00 I can just imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth if Grinder had regen :P 07:09:06 Almost worth doing it for that alone 07:09:08 regeneration should be a flag 07:09:25 Well, @?? can report it either way 07:09:39 @?? is a fully-paid up Crawl variant :P 07:09:39 unknown monster: "is a fully-paid up Crawl variant P" 07:11:16 there should be a hd 30, speed 30 imp with no attacks that just tags along 07:11:59 though it would still be too trivial to just leave him behind 07:13:11 homingimp 07:13:21 it follows you wheneveryou take stairs! 07:13:31 Impic Guardian 07:13:35 syllogism-: you could kill it with immolation! 07:13:35 dpeg: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 07:13:38 it could be a mutation 07:13:39 !messages 07:13:39 (1/1) greensnark said (12m 35s ago): snarktest volcano is WEIGHT: 0 since it was just a demo. Should be safe to remove now. 07:13:54 greensnark: thanks, I'll remove the WEIGHT line. 07:14:03 greensnark: did you see my commit comments? 07:16:29 dpeg: I mean you can remove the map 07:16:47 It's not intended for real use, just a marker demo 07:17:17 What commit comments? 07:17:31 Oh bazaars? 07:18:06 We could make bazaars independent of shop gen? 07:18:25 Or if they're fine as they are now, could just let it be 07:19:27 how do these tension changes affect Xom 07:20:21 were the changes made only with Demonic Guardian in mind 07:20:58 greensnark: yes, bazaars 07:21:14 syllogism-: no, all tension should use LOS 07:21:20 also for Xom and later applications 07:21:31 due: finished D:13, no Grinder for me :( 07:21:56 :( 07:21:57 dpeg: sure, but Xom might now not act frequently enough 07:21:59 no fair 07:22:01 tension could be high if you're running away with a high-level monster just behind a corner 07:22:11 that too 07:22:23 or if you use a scroll of fog 07:22:32 it is clearer this way 07:22:42 tension is the monster list, so to speak 07:22:45 more abuse the other way 07:22:53 At least for DG players were getting advance warning of monsters by standing next to walls 07:22:56 I like LOS. 07:23:07 greensnark: I was about to say something like that. 07:23:20 greensnark: I thought they're reasonable common now. I slightly dislike the fact that they're connected to actual shop generation (instead of just chances for shop generation per level), but it's not too bad. 07:23:50 greensnark: yes, these warnings were what caused me to ask about the tension mechanic yesterday 07:24:46 tension sounds like a thing you won't ever be able to make non-gameable 07:25:09 @??imp 07:25:09 imp (055) | Speed: 10 | HD: 3 | Health: 9-18 | AC/EV: 3/14 | Damage: 4 | Flags: 05demonic, fly, regen | Res: 06magic(36), 05hellfire, 03poison | Vul: 12cold | XP: 48 | Sp: blink. 07:25:19 @??hydra 07:25:19 hydra (09D) | Speed: 10 (swim: 60%) | HD: 13 | Health: 39-104 | AC/EV: 0/5 | Damage: 18 per head | Flags: amphibious, regen | Res: 06magic(52), 03poison | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 1216. 07:25:21 by: sure, but we can still try 07:25:43 We will never get rid of startscumming, but we try. 07:26:00 Fixed stats made me sad 07:26:12 I'm being punished for Sebi's idiocy :P 07:26:16 or not use it for things that have immediaet gameplay effects 07:26:56 !lm * type=crash 07:26:58 46. [2010-06-20] Voker57 the Necromancer (L14 DSGl) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 754 failed on turn 35764. (Shoals:3) 07:26:59 ("immediate gameplay effects" isn't quite what I mean) 07:27:16 should use a a point system for stats :P 07:27:23 * greensnark shoots syllogism- 07:27:42 stats are one of the more pointless things to startscum, surely? 07:27:46 I like fixed stats. 07:27:49 ais523: no 07:27:54 ammo on dlvl1 is the only thing I've seen that's really worth startscumming, and then only for archer builds 07:27:57 ais523: People whiiiine about starting Wz types with low int :) 07:28:00 ais523: for a caster, roll for high Int, not pointless. 07:28:06 hmm, ok 07:28:07 could go along well with the demonspawn mutation picking system 07:28:14 * dpeg shoots syllogism- 07:28:14 I think it makes the game a lot more varied to have varied starting stats 07:28:16 But 07:28:19 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:28:19 That ship has sailed, so whatever 07:28:22 you don't find out what your stats are until level 6? 07:28:34 or am I misinterpreting you? 07:28:46 ais523: No, playres want to be able to select their DS mutations :P 07:28:49 fixed stats are working and absolutely okay, we won't change that short-term 07:28:49 At start of game 07:29:05 Yeah, well, nobody explained how the old stats were broken :P 07:29:23 But ok, I can live with it 07:29:28 I just don't have to like it :) 07:29:39 greensnark: yes, sometimes one has to make sacrifices 07:29:58 (in Pokémon XD, you literally don't find out what your stats are until you've played for a while; some people try to figure it out by experiment) 07:30:05 It is a far better thing that I do today than... I can never remember that line :P 07:30:31 I had to read Dickens for English classes in school. For some reason I never liked Dickens :P 07:30:34 you'd have to hide carry weight, spell success and ev for that to work in crawl :P 07:30:54 Dickens sucks. Talk about bleak. 07:30:56 We could do an iCrawl that hides all stats 07:31:04 Suitable for Apple users 07:31:29 You get a graphical @ and you figure out how wounded it is by inspecting it for damage 07:31:29 Aka wankers? 07:31:33 by: I think that the tension system works okay, and can be made more robust easily enough (essentially more randomisation). 07:32:02 I thought tension was designed to remove randomness, in a way? 07:32:05 due: I use apple too :( 07:32:56 :o 07:32:59 :9 07:33:04 due: for Xom, tension is needed to make Xom act more sensibly. This doesn't conflict with the actual tension formula having randomness in it. 07:33:12 I eat apples every day. 07:33:18 I'm sorry greensnark, our love cannot be. 07:33:30 :P 07:33:40 due: Did you know dpeg is allergic to cats? :P 07:33:40 cmvccmmccbcvvcvbnmcccmccbvvvvvvvvvvvvvcnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncxvvvvvvc/ 07:33:50 mmI am as well 07:34:02 Sorry, trying to fix keyboard. 07:34:05 Are you trying to clean your spacebar :P 07:34:13 Yes. 07:34:18 It's_driving_me_crazy. 07:34:22 I believe that "wanker" is negatively connotated for wrong reasons, cf. organised religion. 07:34:55 dpeg: Possible. 07:34:56 we could collect some extra spaces for due 07:35:03 I agree 07:35:09 due: " " 07:35:15 I hate you all :( 07:35:16 !send due space ship 07:35:16 Sending space ship to due. 07:35:35 due: but we love you back, with all our bases, spaces and apples. 07:35:36 it's surprisingly hard to type with extra spaces 07:35:52 <3 07:36:15 by's getting totally spaced out 07:36:45 Okay, hopefully that'll do it for another few days. 07:36:55 Otherwise I'm going to take the space bar key off, sharpen it, and slash my wrists with it. 07:37:03 Grim 07:37:16 Death by space bar! 07:37:23 that would show it 07:37:31 Death in a space bar: an Agatha Christie XII murder mystery. 07:38:32 Hastings, Hastings, always you part your hair on the side with deplorable asymmetry 07:39:15 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:39:30 The only notable quote I can think of is unfortunately cliche regarding grey cells. 07:44:06 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:44:39 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 07:47:37 by: The monster refcount thing was backed out? 07:47:41 Can we close 1350? 07:47:51 Or is that a tile cache thing 07:48:23 Ok, looks like a tile cache 07:49:03 238 bugs :( 07:51:53 :( 07:57:25 So 0.6.1 apparently generates three upstairs and three downstairs for the abyss :P 07:57:34 I wonder whether master also does this 07:58:04 that's cute 07:58:09 Don't think so 07:58:13 You can use any of the stairs to escape, too 07:58:18 Very handy stairs 07:58:20 I didn't seeitin Abyss when I was testing vaults 07:58:20 brilliant 07:58:26 is that actually a bad thing? 07:58:29 yes 07:58:38 That's six guaranteed exits. 07:58:44 The stairs appear only in the initial Abyss area immediately after being banished 07:58:45 As oppose to a chance of an exit perlevel. 07:58:46 Where do they lead? 07:58:49 how many exits are there normally? it feels like a lot more than six 07:58:56 Any stair in the abyss will take you back to dungeon 07:59:12 ais523: It's not actually guaranteed that an abyss area has an exit 07:59:20 hmm, ah 07:59:22 Something like 1/7500 chance per floor square of creating anexit 07:59:30 due: yay, hatched right into your worms vault -- into the worms room, to be exact 07:59:36 KiloByte: :D 07:59:38 KiloByte: hang on 07:59:40 KiloByte: Feeel the spiiiny looove! 07:59:42 Iwanna see 07:59:43 and how big is the abyss? code-wise, I mean, I know it's infinite from the player's point of view 07:59:49 ais523: 80*70 07:59:57 ohhai 08:00:04 lindwurm, dragon... and I have no time to switch from IDA to GDA 08:00:04 so 5600, so six exits really is a lot 08:00:09 somehow I thought it was a lot bigger 08:00:14 No dragon there, it's behind the doors. 08:00:23 78*68 usable area 08:00:32 drop a bIA? 08:00:37 It was actually a lot less in 0.6 08:00:45 I think 75*65 usable area 08:00:46 hey cool, two lindwurm 08:01:05 due: Too easy :P 08:01:10 greensnark: I know :( 08:01:16 Maybe I should make them all lindwurm. 08:01:24 due: The corridor is too narrow 08:01:29 Too many chokepoints 08:01:33 Yeah. 08:01:37 Zaba noted that. 08:01:47 KiloByte: You don't sac corpses? 08:01:49 ah 08:02:00 But it's acid which is nasty so :D 08:02:24 At least he had to use a heal wounds :P 08:02:40 :D 08:02:56 the entry corridor is more open 08:03:03 you'reright, it doesneed opened up 08:05:59 damn, how did you go? 08:06:02 KiloByte: did you get the dragon? 08:06:18 yes, and it went down in 1-2 hits 08:06:29 :( 08:06:31 but the spiny worm costed be 4 points of AC :( 08:07:14 :D 08:07:17 excellent 08:20:07 well, the hit count of a +7 gsc with 646474368% base delay is quite different from your sabre of speed. But once it connects... 08:20:43 for example, I failed to see any difference between one of orc slaying and one without. Everything in Orc dies in one blow either way :p 08:20:59 gsc usually die quickly 08:24:02 actually, my Orc was available for Grinder too, but he didn't appear 08:24:39 he's !Lair but in my game Elf:1-2 are eligible too 08:25:37 -!- ivan has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 08:25:39 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 08:25:45 Hi Enne! 08:25:49 Howdy! 08:32:00 -!- ivan has joined ##crawl-dev 08:32:29 03greensnark * rf2f237439994 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: [1797] Fix overflow temples being placed in the abyss. 08:32:54 Can't say that's not a funny bug though :P 08:33:40 I'd find it very amusing to have all the altars being overflowed out due to Lug corruption in the Temple, and then find all kinds of altars but the Lug you want in Abyss. 08:33:46 Xom-like, almost. 08:36:39 03greensnark 07stone_soup-0.6 * r104f785238ff 10/crawl-ref/source/dungeon.cc: [1797] Fix overflow temples being placed in the abyss and generating 3x up and down stairs. 08:39:30 aww, levelling up removed by negative rottage :( 08:40:10 if you lose that +3 AC +3% hp mutation, you end up with hp like 119/119 (116) 08:40:31 Huh 08:40:45 You should file or fix that :) 08:41:16 yeah, but that doesn't mean I can't complain about losing that in the game :p 08:41:51 Of course, complaining is 50% of the fun of playing Crawl :) 08:46:28 03kilobyte * r7f716e51caff 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Remove rotting/negative rottage on +hp scales. 08:46:53 Yay 08:47:24 greensnark: oh, I thought overflow temples in the abyss was deliberaet 08:47:30 otherwise I'd have reported it months ago 08:47:33 people need to not use the word due 08:47:35 :P 08:47:45 it does fit to have random altars there now and again 08:47:50 due to due's due dues 08:49:26 s/due/by ? 08:49:36 :)) 08:49:51 I believe by highlight only batches at start of line 08:49:56 er, matches 08:50:02 * greensnark kicks keyboard. 08:50:07 mine onlymatches start too ;) 08:50:14 you know, it's not only irritating to them, but also to those clients that highlight nicks :-) 08:50:38 those clients suck 08:50:52 The other possibility is that by likes the plausible deniability of being able to ignore stuff said to him, saying "Sorry, didn't notice" :) 08:50:57 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 08:51:15 due to a large flood of message, I see 08:51:20 >:| 08:51:29 Stupid highlight on 'snark' giving me false matches in #sporkhack :P 08:51:59 but you're not a generic snark, you're a greensnark! 08:52:04 This guy all snark y with me the other day 08:52:12 * greensnark dehilights snark 08:52:20 Oh oh oh, a poirotism! snark which is green! 08:52:27 amazingly, even I get highlighted by accident some time 08:52:43 *sometimes 08:52:45 why? 08:52:51 do people using ais523 as a conjunctio? 08:52:57 or an oft-used three-letter word? 08:53:02 (or six, as the case would be) 08:53:09 due: it's mostly mentions of me in channel topics 08:53:12 "I was just walking down the ais523 when I saw this amazing beard trimmer"? 08:53:24 or ChanServ nickpinging me for spurious reasons 08:53:54 I get "to" as a /msg occasionally from badly written Mafia bots. 08:54:04 I'm assuming it's some part of /msg due to 08:54:13 by the way... 08:54:14 :D 08:54:19 by: sorry :) 08:54:39 due: I think he looks for ^by: or ^by, so you got him with that second one :P 08:54:59 by: by the by, we were wondering about your nick 08:56:34 :D 08:58:48 it looks like you couldn't afford enough characters :) 08:59:53 actually, a short nickname is a sign of prosperity on a large chat network 09:00:51 prosperity? 09:00:57 sign of thinking of it first 09:01:09 hmm, I wonder if Wikipedia's Single Letter Group still exists? 09:01:24 there was a huge controversy about people valuing single-letter usernames over actually doing something useful 09:03:18 bhaak: usually a "been here longenough to havebeen able togt a nick before everyone else" 09:04:12 ah. "and have a client that knows regex" 09:04:22 heh 09:04:34 due's keyboard gets worse. Now he's starting to miss e's 09:04:49 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:05:58 Yeah. 09:10:32 -!- ais523 is now known as tab-complete 09:10:55 !lg * place=Lair:8 src=cdo 09:10:55 95. ves the Grappler (L12 TrFi), worshipper of Okawaru, demolished by a dire elephant on Lair:8 on 2010-06-22, with 26602 points after 17739 turns and 1:35:58. 09:10:58 dpeg: ---^ 09:14:00 yay! 09:14:24 why /do/ the devteam cheer deaths? 09:14:36 A job done well. 09:14:49 sadistic bastards 09:15:17 hmm, I can imagine making a roguelike in which it's theoretically impossible to die, but which is still fun 09:15:25 although it would be rather unlike Crawl 09:15:25 -!- Adeon is now known as MaryPoppins 09:16:33 easy, make a secondlife RL 09:17:19 ... gross 09:17:32 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:18:14 Mu_, someone died to a dire elephant :) 09:18:34 nice 09:18:59 03kilobyte * rf6480f4c6061 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/abyss.des: Compensate for the removal of overflow temples from the Abyss. 09:19:03 !lg * killer=~lephant 09:19:21 77. ves the Grappler (L12 TrFi), worshipper of Okawaru, demolished by a dire elephant on Lair:8 on 2010-06-22, with 26602 points after 17739 turns and 1:35:58. 09:19:59 77? 09:20:06 !lg * killer=~lephant s=killer 09:20:07 77 games for * (killer=~lephant): 75x an elephant slug, 1x a dire elephant, 1x an elephant slug zombie 09:20:09 ah 09:24:47 !fight 30 quokka n_adj name:dire v dire elephant n_adj name:very 09:25:33 :D 09:26:19 03due * rce3f7f8dbb65 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des: Make wormcave harder. 09:26:21 03due * r3c1e9727872b 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Fix hellephants (Poor_Yurik) 09:26:42 hmm... the side bar showed them as "30 quokkas". I'm afraid that on ancient_champions we'll get "4 skeleton warriors". 09:26:52 lol! wormcave 09:26:53 <3 09:27:28 KiloByte: we do 09:27:31 unfortunately 09:31:01 New monster tile for ghoul (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1815) by coolio 09:32:17 greensnark: You broke jungle_book, no dire elephant statues :( 09:40:21 !tell greensnark jungle_book no longer works at all. Can you check your code? None of my crawl.mpr debugging statements in l_monst triger, so I thinkthere might be a error with something. 09:40:21 due: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 09:40:25 * due sleep. 09:41:23 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 09:41:43 due: nights! 09:45:43 03dolorous * r2ef70ce88e41 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add formatting fix. 09:54:24 I want an option that makes my draconian a d instead of a @ etc 09:59:04 is there a way to redefine the player's glyph? 10:00:02 -!- tab-complete is now known as ais523 10:00:44 hmm no, it is hard-coded as @, except for transformations 10:00:45 KiloByte: I think you can re-set any glyph. 10:01:02 alright then 10:01:24 indeed, you can re-set _almost_ any glyph 10:01:40 I want to be 'SNOWMAN' (U+2603)! 10:01:45 features, monsters, item classes (but not individual items) 10:02:00 Ice elementalists rejoice. 10:02:16 unoverridable: beam animations, player 10:03:14 it would be nice to be able to set skeletons to something different than corpses, that often confuses me 10:05:09 Zao: at least in my font, it's useless and ugly :( ☃ 11:08:32 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 11:18:51 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 11:35:21 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:49:52 03greensnark * r3fda858f9bea 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/ (clua/lm_monst.lua des/branches/lair.des): Fix elephant statue markers for jungle_book (due). 11:52:40 "'cuz the fun haters removed overflow temples from the Abyss" :P 11:52:40 greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 11:52:49 * greensnark slaps KiloByte with a nuclear trout. 11:52:50 -!- stabwound has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:53:44 -!- itsmu has joined ##crawl-dev 11:55:02 -!- Mu_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:55:09 itsmu in alltrope B as opposed to Mu_ in allotrope C and Mu in allotrope A 11:57:05 -!- stabwound has joined ##crawl-dev 11:59:48 this wimbledon match has been going on for 6h 50minutes 12:00:01 34-34 in fifth set 12:00:06 Players? 12:00:20 Mahut vs Isner (france - usa) 12:01:13 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 12:05:10 syllogism-, greensnark: being discussed in ##crawl-offtopic 12:40:37 -!- ortoslon has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:57:14 fsim seems to be an order of magnitude slower on 0.7 than 0.5 12:57:24 Also it gives me weeeird numbers :) 12:57:56 As if it's adding stab damage :P 12:58:10