00:11:52 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:12:09 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 00:15:43 -!- daftfad has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:18:01 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 00:56:14 Dungeon attunement mutation locking up game (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1804) by mwoody 01:10:23 -!- Luca__ has left ##crawl-dev 01:31:39 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 01:32:47 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 01:42:22 -!- casmith789 has joined ##crawl-dev 01:44:25 yo 01:53:25 Wait, what the hell. 01:53:29 Purge, PigVomit and Poor Yurik. 01:53:35 They *all begin with P*! 01:54:10 due, dpeg, doy is a lot worse 01:54:30 when the three of you have a chat I sometimes lose track of who's talking D: 01:54:33 No, I imean, all our excellent tile drawers start with P. :) 01:54:48 oh, true :) 01:56:45 they're also all psudonyms 01:56:50 dpeg is a real david 02:03:28 * elly hangs out in a few of the same channels as elky 02:03:47 elky? 02:03:50 elky! 02:03:52 awkward for tab-complete. 02:03:53 a friend of mine :) 02:03:56 yes, yes it is 02:08:51 I left #darcs in part because of sorje 02:09:31 :P 02:10:40 OG17 needs to get out of ##crawl :< 02:11:15 agree 02:11:16 v. confusing 02:44:03 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 02:44:25 Anyone around to comment ona map? 02:44:26 ogaaz? 02:45:59 I'll take a look, but I don't know much about vault design 02:46:48 http://sprunge.us/NSaA 02:47:55 what's a firefly? 02:48:00 @??firefly 02:48:00 unknown monster: "firefly" 02:48:07 @??giant firefly 02:48:07 giant firefly (12k) | Speed: 16 | HD: 7 | Health: 14-28 | AC/EV: 1/18 | Damage: 8 | Flags: fly | Res: 06magic(65) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 242. 02:48:14 ah, okay 02:49:05 what is this, a portal vault? 02:49:15 nope 02:49:17 Lair:8 ending 02:50:01 it seems alright to me 02:50:01 wow, lair 8's being beefed up? 02:50:07 dragons are scary! 02:50:20 you can get dragons there anyway 02:50:32 there's the one vault with a dragon and loot across a little lake 02:51:10 in Lair:8? 02:51:18 in 0.6? 02:51:21 you can get it anywhere in lair 02:51:34 !lg * place=lair killer=dragon|ice dragon s=place 02:51:44 655 games for * (place=lair killer=dragon|ice dragon): 99x Lair:3, 90x Lair:2, 78x Lair:5, 76x Lair:4, 72x Lair:6, 67x Lair:7, 59x Lair:1, 49x Lair:8, 44x Lair:9, 21x Lair:10 02:51:45 or at least, you could in 0.5 02:51:53 !lg * place=lair killer=dragon|ice dragon x=v 02:51:54 655. [v=0.5.2] NyaaKitty the Cleaver (L12 DDBe), worshipper of Trog, blasted by an ice dragon (blast of cold) on Lair:8 on 2010-06-20, with 21129 points after 19472 turns and 1:15:46. 02:52:07 !lg * place=lair killer=dragon|ice dragon v=~0.6 02:52:10 110. tormodpwns the Basher (L10 OgBe), worshipper of Trog, mangled by a komodo dragon on Lair:3 on 2010-06-20, with 5552 points after 8194 turns and 0:39:44. 02:52:57 blech 02:53:31 you can :) 02:54:17 !lg * place=lair ckiller=dragon|ckiller=ice dragon cv=~0.6 ckiller!=komodo dragon x=v 02:54:31 27. [v=0.6.1] Johan the Spry (L14 SpAr), worshipper of Nemelex Xobeh, blasted by a dragon (blast of flame) on Lair:8 on 2010-06-20, with 52901 points after 25940 turns and 2:29:48. 02:57:44 due, I would randomize the corridors more in that vault 02:58:01 I have seen an ice dragon, but I thought that was an ice cave portal vault 02:58:08 Zaba: Howmuch? 02:58:10 due, partly to make it more random, partly to make it harder to fight monsters one at once 02:58:18 Hm. 02:58:23 I'll push and you cantweak;) 02:58:26 * due has to go make dinner. 02:59:21 03due * r4dea05c577e3 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des: Another Lair ending vault: worm caves. 03:51:26 -!- syllogism- has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:12 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 03:55:44 ogaz: I'm currently coding a unique shadow imp called grinder. 03:55:58 due: :D 03:56:06 :D 03:56:16 Ineed to think of some stupid comments he can make. 03:56:18 massive amounts of nonsensical dialogue? 03:57:20 "Whereis dark matter?" should be anidea complaint. 03:57:50 "Fishes turned into people!" 04:05:48 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 04:19:14 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:23:22 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:26:56 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 04:41:42 03kilobyte * r4e18cdd99473 10/crawl-ref/source/ (AppHdr.h enum.h): Revert typed enums (ee530f00). 04:41:44 03kilobyte * r3e722040b62b 10/crawl-ref/source/externs.h: Use a storage specifier for base_type in the item struct. 04:41:50 03kilobyte * rde7881c4c3ed 10/crawl-ref/source/enum.h: Set OBJ_RANDOM to 101, I don't trust other compilers for signed ints in an 8 bit field. 04:51:45 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 04:52:05 KiloByte: that comment is almost certainly from the "Crawl uses magic numbers internally, the enums are just documentation" days 04:54:42 sorear: ah, makes sense 04:59:07 magical numbers go 05:07:04 GO GO MAGIC 1 05:08:55 "// generated by dice roll, guaranteed to be random" 05:12:38 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:33:08 -!- Niccus has left ##crawl-dev 05:33:09 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 05:35:59 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net] 06:46:25 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:08:27 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 07:17:12 -!- Xiberia has quit [] 07:21:21 -!- Xiberia has joined ##crawl-dev 07:41:26 new goblin tiles blend in with the dungeon 07:42:42 giant newt syndrom :( 07:44:35 kobold too 07:52:00 !seen Enne 07:52:01 I last saw Enne at Mon Jun 21 04:54:20 2010 UTC (7h 57m 41s ago) quitting with message Quit: Enne. 07:52:16 I think the find function bugs out on books 07:52:39 it doesn't find abjuration on this book of summons, but finds in in the book of demonology on the same shop 07:53:13 !tell Enne new goblin and kobold tiles blend with the dungeon floor 07:53:13 ortoslon: OK, I'll let Enne know. 08:01:03 felirx: Can you file a bug with your save 08:01:16 Bile a fug withyoursave. 08:01:19 already bought the offending bug :( 08:01:20 greensnark: I committed the wormcave. 08:01:29 <3 08:01:29 err book 08:01:35 I should've called it wermcave. 08:01:36 due: Any great wyrms? :) 08:01:40 wyrmcave? 08:01:43 I've noticed it happening for quite a while on books though 08:01:43 :) 08:01:49 There's a dragonand a lindwurm. 08:02:06 felirx: If you have a reproducible case, you could file a bug with the description 08:02:23 due: So a wurmcave? :) 08:03:06 I should mess around with a wizard mode 08:03:10 haven't had time for anything 08:03:16 first time playing crawl in some 3 weeks 08:03:39 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 08:05:18 felirx: Just to be clear, there are two books in the shop and ^F shows only one? 08:05:29 Because ^F will show only the first matching result on a square or in a shop 08:05:38 ah 08:05:50 so that's why I can't find all the books when I've stashed them 08:05:53 (or the spells in them) 08:06:05 You should be able to find the spells in the books 08:06:08 the shop had both summons and demonology which have abju 08:06:16 If you have one book in the pile with a spell, ^F will find it 08:06:16 and tried finding for abju 08:06:38 If there are multiple matches there should be a count at the end of the line 08:10:36 Goodnight folk! 08:53:02 -!- Luca__ has left ##crawl-dev 08:57:03 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:08:46 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 09:11:18 -!- badp has joined ##crawl-dev 09:11:37 Hello, I've successfully ran "make wizard" on trunk 09:11:40 where is the output 09:11:41 ? 09:12:07 in the folder you did it? 09:12:32 well, there is a ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped file in there 09:12:36 named crawl 09:12:43 but 09:12:44 badp@delta:~/0.7/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/source$ ./crawl 09:12:44 Unicode glyphs are not available. 09:12:49 badp@delta:~/0.7/crawl-ref/crawl-ref/source$ 09:13:32 (I have no idea :) ) 09:13:44 nor have I :) 09:13:47 don't set char_set in your config? 09:13:47 by: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 09:14:04 !messages 09:14:05 (1/1) greensnark said (2d 4h 24m 59s ago): Can you review bdc215203d00. I may have made mistakes in the newgame code. 09:14:32 yeah, that helped. 09:14:58 you could probably also do something to compile with unicode support 09:17:59 !tell greensnark Looks ok to me. 09:17:59 by: OK, I'll let greensnark know. 09:22:53 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 09:34:13 could the poison trap in the tutorial be made less nasty? 09:34:28 it pretty much requires you to use the second of your three potions of healing. 09:34:51 it gives regular poison on purpose 09:35:03 only way to avoid the poison is to evade the trap 09:35:10 ...it's in a corridor. 09:35:25 well I guess I could 5 it 09:35:39 the help text suggestt either trying to 5 it or quaff a potion 09:35:55 yes, 5 to try and wait for the poisoning to end 09:36:07 then you reach 1hp and drink the potion anyway 09:42:37 it's not like you have other uses for those potions 09:44:47 well, it kinda helps against sigmund if you forget about the wand of firebal. 09:45:10 btw, Plog's description references Wuyck 09:54:02 mm? 09:56:50 oh, the name changes each time. 09:57:21 I once got Plog as the superboss for tutorial mode, but xv'ing it had it talk about Wuyck 09:57:36 now I got Schuemaff and xv mentions Schuemaff. 10:07:33 trunk pandalord should always be Plog 10:09:40 well, I did use &~D5 to get quickly to him and crawl did crash 10:09:57 when I restarted it I got Schuemaff. 10:17:09 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:18:04 -!- ais523 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:18:48 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 10:23:26 by: Crash milestones are the best idea since sliced bread 10:23:26 greensnark: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:23:48 Crash milestones? 10:23:48 Enne: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 10:23:51 !messages 10:23:51 (1/1) ortoslon said (2h 30m 38s ago): new goblin and kobold tiles blend with the dungeon floor 10:23:59 !lm * type=crash 10:23:59 46. [2010-06-20] Voker57 the Necromancer (L14 DSGl) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 754 failed on turn 35764. (Shoals:3) 10:24:03 Enne: Like that ^^ 10:24:10 Oooooh. 10:24:11 We're no longer at the mercy of players to report bugs :) 10:24:26 !lm * type=crash -log 10:24:26 46. Voker57, XL14 DSGl, T:35764 (milestone): http://crawl.develz.org/morgues/trunk/Voker57/crash-Voker57-20100620-135758.txt 10:24:28 Will Henzell /tell you the stack trace? ;) 10:24:37 Enne: Crash dump ^^ :) 10:24:37 Oh, awesome. 10:24:48 <3 <3 <3 10:24:57 by had the idea, and it's been really useful 10:25:16 that's a lot of crashes already 10:25:20 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:25:26 !lm * type=crash s=noun 10:25:26 46 milestones for * (type=crash): 9x , 9x ASSERT(!monster at(p) || monster at(p)->submerged() || fedhas passthrough(monster at(p))) in 'player, 9x ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 1175 failed., 3x ASSERT(refcount > 0) in 'monster.h' at line 468 failed., 3x ASSERT(index < SIZE) in 'fixedvector.h' at line 65 failed., 3x ASSERT(!crawl state.doing prev cmd again || (crawl state.is repeating cmd() ... 10:25:34 I think all the crashes since 78291's Trove visits have been fixed 10:25:46 ah, good 10:26:01 !lm * crash fixed=no 10:26:01 Malformed argument: crash 10:26:26 is there a way to make lua do something whenever I get a certain message? 10:26:26 Yeah, that would be nice :P 10:26:39 options are confusing :[ 10:26:45 TGWi: Don't think there is currently 10:26:48 !tell ortoslon Not for long--see the yuriktiles branch. If I don't get that in by 0.7, I'll revert goblins and kobolds in the 0.7 branch. 10:26:48 Enne: OK, I'll let ortoslon know. 10:26:55 TGWi: you could abuse the hook that's used for message interrupts, I guess 10:26:55 hm, it would be useful 10:27:25 by: Does that fire if the player is not delayed? 10:27:30 I can neve remember 10:27:32 brb, trawling through documentation 10:27:47 ah, not sure 10:28:12 probably it doesn't 10:33:31 greensnark, ooooh! there are crash dumps now too? 10:33:34 on henzell 10:33:39 Aye 10:33:42 <3 10:34:02 Napkin: Sprint and Crawl can coexist in the same install, want to set up trunk sprint? :) 10:34:17 !lm * type=crash x=date 10:34:17 Unknown selector date in date 10:34:24 ??lm 10:34:24 milestone[1/4]: Milestone fields: v, cv, name, race, cls, char, xl, sk, sklev, title, place, br, lvl, ltyp, hp, mhp, mmhp, str, int, dex, god, dur, turn, nrune, urune, time, type, noun, milestone, game_id. game_id points at the game owning the milestone, to see the corresponding game use !lg * id=<1245>. game_id may be null. 10:34:33 !lm * type=crash x=time 10:34:33 46. [2010-06-20] [time=2010-06-20 [20100520135758S]] Voker57 the Necromancer (L14 DSGl) ASSERT(smc) in 'mon-util.cc' at line 754 failed on turn 35764. (Shoals:3) 10:39:58 -!- neunon has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:40:09 -!- neunon has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:23 -!- dpeg has joined ##crawl-dev 10:40:34 !seen greensnark 10:40:34 I last saw greensnark at Mon Jun 21 15:34:02 2010 UTC (6m 32s ago) saying Napkin: Sprint and Crawl can coexist in the same install, want to set up trunk sprint? :) on ##crawl-dev. 10:41:41 Miaow? 10:43:31 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 10:44:31 greensnark: we had a date right now? 10:46:01 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 10:46:12 who was it who was defending handbag? due? 10:46:25 greensnark: but I guess there's not much left to discuss... 10:46:34 TGWi: what's wrong with handbag? 10:46:37 because I just got it and I wanted to show whoever it was what I'm talking about 10:47:00 exiting the vault as soon as is even possible, I've got four enemies trailing me 10:47:28 TGWi: what enemies? 10:47:34 three rats and a goblin 10:47:44 mind, this is a start vault 10:48:28 around the vault were two more rats and a kobold 10:48:34 handbag? 10:48:45 onia_ninaria_handbag_some string of numbers 10:48:54 it's an entry vault 10:48:56 !vault handbag 10:48:59 Lines pasted to http://paste.scsys.co.uk/45059 10:49:14 People actually know the names of entry vaults? :) 10:49:20 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 10:49:22 I looked through the whole thing to find this one 10:49:27 because it kept killing me 10:51:19 hm, I should fix it and attach to the FR 10:52:02 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 10:57:09 -!- Siber has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:57:22 greensnark: nothing left to say? 10:58:02 sorry about the detour 10:58:49 dpeg: You're right about Sprint points 10:59:50 greensnark: capping them is good, eh? 11:00:15 Yes, if there are going to be exploits :) 11:01:18 greensnark: this is not just exploits... you can simply try to storm Sprint by repetition... re-starting won't win you Crawl but it can do wonders in Sprint. That's okay, but we shouldn't reward that. 11:01:45 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 11:02:19 dpeg: Well, when I say exploit I mean any simple trick that can be repeated across different character types 11:02:22 and sprint balance "issues" haven't been addressed 11:02:40 !lg * sprint ktyp=winning s=god 11:02:40 35 games for * (ktyp=winning): 10x The Shining One, 6x Sif Muna, 5x Trog, 5x Makhleb, 2x Lugonu, 2x Okawaru, 2x Zin, 1x Xom, 1x , 1x Fedhas 11:02:59 Yeah, we need to fix the good god thing 11:03:23 syllogism-: I brought up the good god bit internally. 11:07:19 reee 11:07:38 ah, what did you change, greensnark? 11:07:55 Napkin: Sprint saves and logfile/milestones are separate from normal game 11:08:03 saves go into $SAVEDIR/sprint 11:08:07 details :D 11:08:09 and logfile-sprint and milestones-sprint 11:08:21 ah 11:09:03 It would be awesome to have trunk sprint 11:09:08 So we can make fixes and test 11:09:18 Not that I volunteer to do Sprint testing :P 11:09:18 hmm, you left me in a branch-less state :-O 11:09:20 help? 11:09:28 Oh, I thought you fixed that? :) 11:09:32 crawl@ipx14623:~/source/crawl-git> git checkout master 11:09:32 crawl-ref/source/hiscores.cc: needs merge 11:09:32 error: you need to resolve your current index first 11:09:35 --- 11:09:55 Let me take a peek 11:09:58 oh, is that from a rebase of the script? 11:10:06 Yes, I ran the script 11:10:08 git rebase --abort 11:10:24 You doing that or you want me to? :) 11:10:28 was 38a3ab01c53453449be42721843ae3f326f0bd3a fixed yeT? 11:10:30 did that 11:10:34 back to business :) 11:10:45 Napkin: Yes, that's fixed 11:10:50 cool :) 11:11:57 dpeg: On the team-as-entity thing, I agree that it will probably work better than the old model 11:12:12 If rax agrees we can do that 11:12:30 Although I'd prefer to keep the old model from the least-work-incurred angle :) 11:13:10 greensnark: I said it: theoretically speaking, the new model seems better. But I cannot help you with the code, so it 11:13:18 is absolutely okay if you refrain from doing it :) 11:13:37 -!- Siber has joined ##crawl-dev 11:13:48 arg.. need help - query, greensnark? 11:19:21 I actually prefer the old model. 11:19:30 But I like some elements of the new model. 11:19:38 ANd have been trying to think of a way to merge them but coming up blank. 11:21:08 Hey, rax is here :) 11:21:12 rax: How's the wrist 11:21:15 Let me ponder it after work? 11:21:24 Much better, I didn't type much with my right hand over the weekend and it helped a lot. 11:21:39 It was an obviously pulled muscle from yardwork, not caused by typing, so I'm less nervous than I would be otherwise. 11:21:46 Ah, ok 11:22:40 Yeah, typing rsi can be nasty, good this is just a minor pull 11:25:47 It has me convinced I need to start lifting weights again. 11:28:26 rax: If I happen to be gone then, please mail me. 11:28:32 ABsolutely, will do. 11:40:13 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 12:24:23 -!- KiloByte has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:25:45 -!- KiloByte has joined ##crawl-dev 12:25:48 rax: If I happen to be gone then, please mail me.dssds 12:26:00 Cat-like typing detected! 12:26:19 dpeg, are you a furry now too? :) 12:26:34 woah, a furry? 12:26:42 what a family 12:27:09 jpeg seemed so nice, but I can't ignore how she treats operators 12:27:28 How she treats operators? 12:28:06 rax: I am in a hurry :P 12:28:11 rax: greensnark told me she likes that kind of style: if (bool1 && bool2 || bool3) { [...] } 12:28:18 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 12:28:36 bhaak: she knows the precedence rules by heart° 12:28:37 Oh joy, major version break on trunk. 12:28:54 * Zao checks commit messages for warnings about saves breaking. 12:29:34 dpeg: that's not a good thing! think about those poor souls that also do other languages! 12:29:59 I'm not convinced that over-parenthesizing makes it clearer. 12:30:29 bhaak: Qu'est-ce que c'est? 12:30:55 Enne: but it makes it less error-prone when you change something 12:31:07 dpeg: quoi? 12:31:55 Ausländisch, was ist das? :) 12:31:56 How do I get rid of my old outdated saves? Just delete stuff randomly in saves/ ? 12:32:15 dpeg: programming languages, not natural languages :) 12:39:24 -!- neunon has quit [Quit: neunon] 12:45:01 bhaak: uhm... but is there a single language with any precedence where && is not higher than || ? 12:45:37 Mr. Boole himself had /\ higher precedence than \/ 12:46:16 IIRC, Pascal is the main offender here 12:46:27 sorear: this is what you expect from communication, I think (at least it the languages I know of). 12:46:36 So Mr Wirth fucked it up again? :) 12:47:05 sorear: uhm... how? Except for "&&" being named "and" and "||" "or", everything is the same here... 12:47:23 s/here/there/ 12:47:47 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:48:11 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 12:49:48 KiloByte: or and + are the same precedence 12:49:57 dpeg: hey, don't slam Wirth when I'm around! 12:50:27 bhaak: are you a relative? 12:50:37 dpeg: no, a student 12:50:47 * dpeg piles up some Modula-2 books and torches them. 12:51:10 at least, slam him for the things he did fuck up. :) 12:51:13 Is it documented somewhere how to surgically remove a save that prevents me from playing due to version bumpage? 12:51:14 :) 12:51:21 Or is it time to randomly destroy things? 12:54:02 Zao: just start the game, it will tell you what to do 12:55:26 KiloByte: No. Upon choosing "Dungeon Crawl" with my name, I get a screen with "Save file saves/Zao-500.chr is invalid. Major version mismatch: 25 (want <= 26)." 12:55:31 personally if ( xx && aa || yy ) without paranthesis gives the feeling of a bug waiting to happen 12:55:32 Hit any key to exit... 12:55:44 Does nothing interesting, like fixing anything. 12:56:06 Upon further reflection, that error message seems quite messed up. 12:56:37 so that's the file you want to get rid of -- or alternatively, you may downgrade to 956fc093 12:57:44 Seems to have done the trick. 12:57:51 Still, the error seems a bit off. 12:59:48 that "<=", right? 13:01:58 Seems to be != if I grok the source right. 13:02:18 Err, == 13:02:57 Thanks for the info, anyway. 13:05:34 it was simply copied hastily from the case for minor tags 13:08:26 03kilobyte * r36cc0ab6db5f 10/crawl-ref/source/ (player.cc player.h spl-util.cc): Mark the spell See Invis as useless when appropiate. 13:08:28 03kilobyte * ree11f4faa921 10/crawl-ref/source/player.cc: Don't announce draconian AC gain at level 4, since there's none. [1801] 13:08:29 03kilobyte * r05e49a6f09c5 10/crawl-ref/source/files.cc: Improve the save version mismatch message. 13:15:23 for Extension and cards: what about extending only spells you know? 13:15:43 change scroll of Vorpalize to scroll of Branding (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1805) by olo 13:19:36 KiloByte: instead of card effects infinitely? 13:23:08 if you have lots of patience and are very careful, you can draw Transformation cards until you get Lich or Dragon form and then keep extending every single time it is about to fade 13:29:25 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 13:31:44 oh wow you can extend all sorts of things i didn't realise, even potions of might 13:32:00 Morning all 13:32:14 morning 13:32:21 could extend Sage cards and such? 13:33:35 KiloByte: yes, I agree that only spells you know should be extendable. 13:57:43 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:58:34 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 14:00:00 Mu_, that's pretty crazy considering how powerful brilliance, might, and agility are. 14:00:05 if they're all extendable 14:02:48 Extension is a questionable spell by itself, but that's for later. 14:02:51 Cryp71c: hi! 14:05:46 dpeg, hai 14:06:01 got to go soon, sorry :( 14:15:08 extend for my purpose is a solution to tedious upkeeping of buffs 14:16:07 Buffs should work on some sort of sustained system anyways, since most you keep up and almost all are quite powerful. 14:17:16 I never liked extend, but that's an opinion 14:17:44 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:20:43 idea: let's change Extension to "Spell Lock". Takes 5 maxmp, stops glow dissipation (but won't cause glow by itself), sustains all spells while it's active. 14:25:26 KiloByte: good idea ---> FR :) 14:26:36 -!- dpeg has quit [Quit: bye!] 14:28:26 KiloByte, also add on there that this would go hand-in-hand with extending only spells you know and potentially not extending might/agility/brilliance. 14:29:37 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:33:11 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 14:35:47 KiloByte: that sounds annoying to use with haste 14:49:08 Cryp71c: for now, I'm changing extension to extend spells you know, including a chance to fail if your success chance is <50% 14:49:32 and there are no might/agility/brilliance spells... 14:50:53 KiloByte, extension extends potion and other non-spell effects (like sage card) 14:53:16 looks like fireflies currently shout, which i suppose they shouldn't do :) 15:04:28 is it normal for &f to consume 100% of cpu for a lot of time? 15:06:02 Mu: there are barking spiders, so why not shouting fireflies? 15:06:56 I guess it is. stupid question. 15:23:19 -!- lorimer has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:30:14 -!- lorimer has joined ##crawl-dev 15:45:31 03kilobyte * r87db9af27edb 10/crawl-ref/source/ (dat/descript/spells.txt spells1.cc spl-util.cc spl-util.h): Nerf Extension by allowing extending only spells you know. 15:45:32 03kilobyte * rbcedf2a1d471 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Stop fireflies from shouting. Allow them as zombies. 15:52:17 Kinda wishing Death Knights weren't removed. Melee/fighter option for people who want to worship an evil/chaotic god from the get go. 15:53:02 Or Chaos Knight, rather. 15:53:31 Maybe i'm just misunderstanding the change. 15:54:40 Poor_Yurik: priest of yred 15:54:42 Enne, I saw your mention of a yuriktiles branch, is there any way I can access it? 15:54:58 You can download the branch and compile it. ;) 15:55:59 if you are running ubuntu the only package you need that you probably do not have installed is libncurses5-dev 15:56:10 Once I finish putting in code for the water stuff, I could compile a Windows version for you. 15:58:55 badp: apt-get build-dep crawl 15:59:50 k, thank you 16:09:56 (and that would be awesome if you could compile it) 16:14:00 KiloByte: the ubuntu packages have crawl version 0.5 16:15:54 ah, so it lacks the dependencies for tiles 16:17:04 I really have no idea since I "tainted" my system with debian packages for crawl 0.6 and its dependencies, including a different version of libsqlite3 16:17:05 Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), libncursesw5-dev, bison, flex, liblua5.1-0-dev, pkg-config, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl1.2-dev, libsqlite3-dev, libfreetype6-dev 16:17:26 Somehow I could still boot after I did that 16:17:51 (oh, and a different version of libncursesw5) 16:18:04 hey, I boot every day even though I do have debian packages installed 16:18:11 (in fact, every single one of them :p) 16:18:27 yeah, the potential problem is with mixing them :) 16:21:15 btw I somehow could build crawl without bison, flex, liblua5.1-0-dev, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl1.2-dev and libsqlite3-dev 16:21:52 yeah, no tiles, no unicode glyphs, ... 16:22:03 didn't notice other features missing. 16:22:52 if you have no bison or flex, Crawl will use prebuilt yaccage, this is fine unless you hack on the level compiler itself 16:23:39 for lua, SDL or SQLite, we ship submodules for systems which lack them 16:23:56 nice :) 16:24:42 in fact, Crawl used to always use shipped libraries, but in distributions like Debian the security team will be majorly upset for not using system libraries 16:25:35 ...I do have the libraries, mind you, I lack the header files. 16:26:28 I guess that means make didn't build the libraries and just linked with system libraries instead 16:46:18 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 16:46:47 hey ##dev 16:46:47 bmh: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 16:46:50 !messages 16:46:50 (1/1) rax said (1d 7h 18m 13s ago): I don't consider myself legendary, but I have ascended seven times in a row. NetHack is too easy. :) 16:46:59 hurr 17:00:55 jungle_book (lair 8 vault) is guaranteed? 17:02:34 or, that is one ending vault is 17:03:25 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:04:16 syllogism-: Looks like due left a testing weight in 17:04:21 wormcave is WEIGHT: 500 17:04:26 Enjoy it while it lasts 17:04:37 And yes, Lair:$ vault is guaranteed since there's no dummy 17:04:47 so the plan isn't to have a guaranteed ending vault? 17:04:56 No idea :) 17:36:36 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 17:39:58 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:19 Revised alligator snapping turtle tile (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1806) by coolio 18:08:06 -!- Luca__ has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:09:04 -!- casmith789 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:09:32 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 18:12:56 -!- badp has quit [Quit: Night] 18:21:55 -!- syllogism- has quit [] 18:28:09 -!- Siber2 has joined ##crawl-dev 18:28:55 -!- Jude has joined ##crawl-dev 18:29:45 -!- Siber has quit [*.net *.split] 18:29:45 -!- rax has quit [*.net *.split] 18:29:46 -!- ivan has quit [*.net *.split] 18:29:46 -!- due has quit [*.net *.split] 18:33:04 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 18:33:09 -!- rax has joined ##crawl-dev 19:01:05 is a Lair:8 vault guaranteed? 19:05:54 never mind, read up and saw this was answered already 19:15:21 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 19:21:00 -!- Jude is now known as due 19:21:27 mor 19:21:30 *mor 19:21:34 ... morn. 19:22:09 Crap,forgottoremove the testing weight. 19:22:10 Didsomeone? 19:23:15 -!- ivan has joined ##crawl-dev 19:29:11 03due * r1b6029e7d5fb 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des: Remove testing weight. 19:44:10 -!- TGWi has joined ##crawl-dev 19:50:52 -!- TGWi has left ##crawl-dev 20:46:56 -!- bmh has joined ##crawl-dev 20:47:26 hi dev 20:54:00 -!- pointless_ has joined ##crawl-dev 20:54:14 hi 21:02:18 hi 21:21:47 -!- Vandal has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:21:50 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 21:35:49 -!- Vandal has joined ##crawl-dev 22:06:50 -!- xyblor has joined ##crawl-dev 22:27:27 -!- bmh has quit [Quit: bmh] 22:29:44 -!- pointless_ has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 22:43:39 03dolorous * raf483e07d78f 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Update the 0.7 changelog again. 22:48:42 -!- Enne_ has joined ##crawl-dev 22:48:42 -!- Enne has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:48:42 -!- Enne_ is now known as Enne 22:53:53 Nightstalker mutation doesn't use the LOS shift-firing fix (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1807) by OG17 23:23:46 how can I get permission to create a brainstorm page on the mantis wiki? 23:24:45 I made some comments about religious classes on the SF wiki, and was told to use mantis instead 23:28:17 1. create a develz account 23:28:27 2. ask for permission, here or in a ticket 23:28:33 ping Napkin or Eronarn 23:29:01 I'm logged into mantis already, so I guess I have an account 23:30:03 this is the page I would like to create: 23:30:10 https://crawl.develz.org/wiki/doku.php?id=dcss:brainstorm:job:religious_jobs 23:31:49 03enne.walker 07yuriktiles * r6f97c59f9795 10/crawl-ref/source/ (rltiles/dc-feat.txt tiledgnbuf.cc): Add code for shore tiles. 23:31:50 03enne.walker 07yuriktiles * r55b8de30d3ae 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/tool/ (tile_list_processor.cc tile_page.cc tile_page.h): Add synonym command to rltiles. 23:31:51 03enne.walker 07yuriktiles * rc3d8f7d8c635 10/crawl-ref/source/ (rltiles/dc-wall.txt tileview.cc): Add torch tile animations. 23:31:54 03enne.walker 07yuriktiles * rff54a3b77344 10/crawl-ref/source/rltiles/dc-dngn/ (dngn_closed_door.png dngn_open_door.png): Add Poor_Yurik's initial door tiles. 23:32:14 Napkin: can I make a brainstorm page? 23:33:28 or is there a more general class-reform discussion page I should use? 23:38:27 -!- Enne has quit [Quit: Enne]