00:47:59 -!- sbluen has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539]] 00:56:06 -!- Staren has quit [] 01:45:21 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 02:13:54 What colour should plain elephants be? 02:13:59 Can't use lightgrey unless we change sheep. 02:14:35 Ah, green. 02:14:51 can they get smoke demon grey? 02:16:35 No, that's lightgrey. 02:16:46 But I can't think of anything to change sheep to. 02:16:48 Unless white? 02:17:11 @?sheep 02:17:11 sheep (15Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 3 | Health: 9-24 | AC/EV: 2/7 | Damage: 13 | Res: 06magic(12) | XP: 28. 02:17:13 @?smoke demon 02:17:13 smoke demon (153) | Speed: 9 | HD: 7 | Health: 21-56 | AC/EV: 5/9 | Damage: 8, 5, 5 | Flags: 05demonic, fly | Res: 06magic(56), 05fire++, 03poison | XP: 314 | Sp: sticky flame, steam ball, smiting. 02:17:16 oh, huh 02:17:47 Make them all white elephants :P 02:18:55 hehehehe 02:22:10 I'vemade elephants red and hellephants lightred. 02:22:12 Dire are still blue. 02:22:42 @??hellephant 02:22:42 unknown monster: "hellephant" 02:23:36 I'm only compiling them locally. 02:23:49 Now I want a half-human half-elephant unique that summons elephants. 02:23:55 "summon herd"! 02:24:53 I don't want to think about the biology that would make someone half-man, half-elephant 02:27:31 it makes a little more sense than shapeshifters 02:28:15 Why? 02:28:57 ogaz: Google images "ganesha" 02:29:08 oh, fair enough 02:33:57 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 02:35:13 The hellephant blinks! The hellephant trunk-slaps you for 14! The hellephant breathes fire at you! 02:35:42 it's nessos with a trunk! 02:36:45 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 02:36:52 Basically! 02:37:10 I'm not sure about colouring. 02:39:34 -!- MarvinPA_ has joined ##crawl-dev 02:41:46 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:41:59 -!- MarvinPA_ is now known as MarvinPA 02:47:57 And here are the hellephants. 02:48:21 03due * r5d32d13ae636 10/crawl-ref/source/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Finish the Elephant family. 02:54:26 -!- Niccus has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 02:54:57 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 03:03:02 -!- MarvinPA has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03:20 -!- Niccus has quit [Quit: out] 03:06:26 @??red draconian knight 03:06:26 red draconian knight (10d) | Speed: 10 | HD: 16 | Health: 96-160 | AC/EV: 12/12 | Damage: 15 | Flags: evil, spellcaster, cold-blooded | Res: 06magic(85), 05fire | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 2474 | Sp: fire breath (3d20), b.cold (3d25), b.draining (3d20), animate dead, teleport self / fire breath (3d20), b.fire (3d25), b.cold (3d25), cantrip, b.lightning (3d21), b.draining (3d20), teleport self / fire breath.. 03:07:06 @??margery 03:07:06 Margery (04@) | Speed: 10 | HD: 22 | Health: 164 | AC/EV: 0/10 | Damage: 30 | Flags: spellcaster, see invisible | Res: 06magic(146) | Chunks: 07contaminated | XP: 6882 | Sp: b.fire (3d32), fireball (3d33). 03:07:33 Hm, so margery-esque monster. 03:17:41 03due * r345c32780b6e 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/lair.des: Adjust Lair entry vaults for elephants. 03:29:49 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 03:29:57 Hi gal_bolle. 03:30:06 hi 03:42:25 i started an artificer (in 0.6) the other day, which died around dl12. I did not find any wand on the dungeon floor, and went for beogh as a god, as access to the ET was on a uniquefest level. It was a fun game, but I felt a bit robbed of the xps that went into evocations: I ended up as a priest of Beogh with good T&D. More generally, I feel that in the early game, if you don't worship Nemelex, there is a good chance that you get no business with e 03:42:27 vocations at all, which makes the skill hard to get into. What do you think of increasing the frequency of (early?) wands, rods and misc objects, but make using them with low evocation risky (say, you have a chance of the item working but losing all its charges at once, and also exploding for some damage, depending on the wand's power, and loss of the item). That way, the number of available wand/rod/misc item *charges* could not change, but using 03:42:29 them or not would be more of a decision from the player, and less dependent on what's on the dungeon floor. 03:44:37 if wands had a chance to explode, I would think the decision would generally be to _not_ use them. 03:45:01 that would have to be minor damages, more for flavour than as a hazard 03:45:39 and with a guaranteed cap if evocation is high enough 03:46:13 1d(10 - evo), say 03:46:17 evocations already has generally lower XP costs 03:46:19 !apt hu evocations 03:46:20 Hu (SK_EVOCATIONS)=80 03:46:22 that still doesn't sound like a way to *encourage* use of wands 03:47:09 could change that factor of 0.8 if it's too hard to train but I think the current value is fine 03:47:43 my point is not that evo is too hard to train, it's that it's a skill you don't know if you'll be able to train at all before midgame 03:48:02 unless you're a nemelexite, you don't need to train it before midgame 03:54:29 isn't it the only skill with that property? That's what I find a bit off with it 03:57:22 inv is pretty useless unless you're worshipping an inv-using god 03:57:59 yes but at least it says so on the tin (you can say the same of Axes if you don't wield one) 04:00:10 -!- syllogism has joined ##crawl-dev 04:12:25 -!- varmin has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:12:25 -!- greensnark has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:23:06 -!- Mu_ has joined ##crawl-dev 04:31:44 Sludge Elf gains fighting skill slower than aptitute indicates (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1781) by June 04:33:07 -!- Spads has left ##crawl-dev 04:33:18 huh 04:51:50 Low frequency of vaults, bazaars, caves, etc (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1782) by June 05:22:17 03Mu * re030e4077e8f 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des: Replace elephant slugs in circus_mu with elephants 05:30:36 03Mu * r3296bb5012b5 10/crawl-ref/source/dat/des/branches/zot.des: Really give circus_mu elephants. 05:30:38 embarrasing 05:33:50 -!- ogaz has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:35:58 @?? elephant 05:36:00 elephant (03Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 9 | Health: 45-90 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Damage: 20, 5 | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 431. 05:36:00 bah 05:36:03 those stats are a joke 05:36:03 @?? elephant slug 05:36:03 elephant slug (15j) | Speed: 4 | HD: 20 | Health: 100-160 | AC/EV: 2/1 | Damage: 40 | Res: 06magic(80) | Vul: 09poison | Chunks: 09poisonous | XP: 464. 05:36:03 there are dire elephants too 05:36:05 @?? dire elephant 05:36:06 dire elephant (02Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 15 | Health: 75-150 | AC/EV: 13/2 | Damage: 40, 15 | Res: 06magic(100) | XP: 1617. 05:36:47 @?? hellephant 05:36:47 hellephant (04Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 20 | Health: 100-240 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Damage: 50, 30 | Flags: 05demonic | Res: 06magic(133) | XP: 3654 | Sp: fire breath (3d40), blink. 05:36:50 oh nice 05:40:03 the hellephants look very scary 05:40:29 @?? titan 05:40:29 titan (06C) | Speed: 10 | HD: 20 | Health: 60-160 | AC/EV: 10/3 | Damage: 55 | Flags: sense invisible | Res: 06magic(186), 10elec++ | XP: 3639 | Sp: b.lightning (3d24), minor healing, airstrike (0-50). 05:44:19 @??hell hound 05:44:19 hell hound (11h) | Speed: 15 | HD: 5 | Health: 15-40 | AC/EV: 6/13 | Damage: 13 | Flags: 05demonic, sense invisible | Res: 06magic(20), 05hellfire, 03poison | Vul: 12cold | XP: 146 | Sp: flame blast (3d10). 05:44:22 @??hell hog 05:44:22 hell hog (04h) | Speed: 14 | HD: 11 | Health: 33-88 | AC/EV: 2/9 | Damage: 20 | Flags: 05demonic | Res: 06magic(44) | XP: 983 | Sp: sticky flame splash (3d5). 06:01:08 -!- Amonchakad has joined ##crawl-dev 06:03:30 03kilobyte * r9c138171dcba 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-util.h: Fix another case of a broken "long" on 32-bit machines. 06:04:41 03dolorous * r852a76a5121a 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Add formatting fixes. 06:04:43 03dolorous * r930cc916eb91 10/crawl-ref/docs/changelog.txt: Update the 0.7 changelog yet again. 06:07:27 -!- gal_bolle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07:47 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 06:12:56 ??hellephant 06:12:56 hellephant[1/1]: A pachyderm born in the fires of Hell; it blinks, breathes fire, and hits really, really hard. 06:14:56 !learn add hellephant Similar to a dragon, except that it hits and breathes twice as hard, has twice the hp, is not vulnerable to cold, and ignores necromancy. 06:14:56 hellephant[2/2]: Similar to a dragon, except that it hits and breathes twice as hard, has twice the hp, is not vulnerable to cold, and ignores necromancy. 06:15:57 Sounds like something out of Dwarf Fortress. 06:16:41 add flying pig demons that shoot webs 06:18:26 and blinks 06:18:30 woh, they pwn orb guardians 97:2 06:21:09 !learn edit hellephant[2] s/, and ignores necromancy, ignores necromancy, and blinks/ 06:21:09 No change because the regex failed to match. 06:21:18 !learn edit hellephant[2] s/, and ignores necromancy/, ignores necromancy, and blinks/ 06:21:23 hellephant[2/2]: Similar to a dragon, except that it hits and breathes twice as hard, has twice the hp, is not vulnerable to cold, ignores necromancy, and blinks. 06:38:47 -!- greensnark has joined ##crawl-dev 06:41:36 -!- varmin has joined ##crawl-dev 06:43:48 -!- Amonchakad has quit [Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net] 06:47:30 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 06:49:50 Napkin: please update windows builds 07:08:23 03dolorous * r24d8d4755db2 10/crawl-ref/source/mon-data.h: Disallow hellephant zombies. 07:32:28 !learn add hellephant Similar to Nessos, except that it hits harder in melee and doesn't haste. (And no poison breath.) 07:32:28 hellephant[3/3]: Similar to Nessos, except that it hits harder in melee and doesn't haste. (And no poison breath.) 07:39:30 -!- eith has joined ##crawl-dev 07:56:52 -!- Textmode has quit [Quit: Over the ages, man has been certain of a great many things. some of these things were even true.] 07:58:49 Broken corpse descriptions for MuPr (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1783) by dolorous 08:10:47 -!- purge has joined ##crawl-dev 08:26:45 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:32:38 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 08:48:47 morning 08:49:27 greensnark, we have hellephants! 09:01:30 due: morning. please update windows builds 09:01:45 ortoslon: Do't have time, sorry 09:14:30 -!- gal_bolle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:14:51 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 09:16:14 due: Yes, I see :) 09:16:26 Seems to be doing pretty well on FightCub 09:16:38 * greensnark can't type today 09:21:50 -!- Enne has joined ##crawl-dev 09:26:32 Hi Enne! 09:26:36 Hellephants, theyexist! 09:26:41 I know! It's crazy! 09:27:24 @??hellephant 09:27:24 hellephant (04Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 20 | Health: 100-240 | AC/EV: 13/10 | Damage: 50, 30 | Flags: 05demonic | Res: 06magic(133) | XP: 3654 | Sp: fire breath (3d40), blink. 09:27:31 I think they might be a bit buff, though. 09:27:51 Should ramp the EVdown,cometo thinkof it. 09:27:54 @??elephant 09:27:54 elephant (03Y) | Speed: 10 | HD: 9 | Health: 45-90 | AC/EV: 8/2 | Damage: 20, 5 | Res: 06magic(60) | XP: 431. 09:28:13 what does Y stand for 09:28:33 Yareyouaskingsillyquestions 09:28:37 pachYderm 09:29:02 Herd creatures, bulls, yaks, elephants... 09:30:18 why is hellephant red? why floor is represented with .? why always 27? why mummies can't eat? why elves live in orc mines? 09:31:50 How is babbyformed? 09:34:42 floor isn't represented with ., i play tiles :D 09:36:24 due: You should update windows tile build so ortoslon can meet some elephants :) 09:37:00 I think SA is also keen to meet the charismatic hellephant 09:37:35 I think they are all restricted to vaults right now 09:37:50 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:38:32 Sleep :) 09:38:33 * due gone. 09:48:09 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 09:49:50 -!- Cryp71c has joined ##crawl-dev 09:57:36 ortoslon: Tiles build updated 09:58:07 thanks, i'll poke you too from now on :) 09:58:18 due did it! 09:58:39 Well, ok, I just have to start Napkin's script and it does all the work :) 09:58:55 ha! 09:59:02 you said that last time, too :-) 09:59:33 Hey, I can update CDO with one command! 09:59:44 Unlike, say, un.nethack.nu :) 10:00:08 You have to hunt down octe with guns and nets and hunting dogs :) 10:00:12 "octe: update un.nethack.nu" 10:00:23 see, that's also just one command :) 10:00:48 If he's awake and paying attention on IRC, yes :) 10:09:30 -!- Eronarn has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:11:01 -!- Eronarn has joined ##crawl-dev 10:11:09 hellephants!!! 10:11:14 yaaaay! 10:49:19 -!- gal_bolle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:49:37 -!- gal_bolle has joined ##crawl-dev 11:17:28 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 11:22:20 -!- gal_bolle has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:24:29 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 11:43:04 rats and bats and hellephants 11:51:24 yay! nethack invasion! 12:16:21 hellephants should bite, not trunk slap. their trunk has mutated away into a big maw 12:22:49 nethack invasion? I'm not sure that went exactly as you planned bhaak? 12:24:31 casmith789: a failed invasion lead by a swiss. doesn't happen the first time in history :) 12:24:39 :) 13:51:47 -!- Niccus has joined ##crawl-dev 14:09:15 -!- xardas-3 has joined ##crawl-dev 14:34:58 -!- Luca__ has joined ##crawl-dev 14:56:21 -!- xardas-3 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00:22 -!- Zaba has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 15:03:57 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:03:59 -!- Zaba has quit [Changing host] 15:03:59 -!- Zaba has joined ##crawl-dev 15:07:31 -!- ais523 has joined ##crawl-dev 15:23:34 Or maybe helliphants have 2 tenticles with giant spines on the end instead of trunks 15:23:43 that they stab you with! 15:24:28 Whoa, purge lives 15:24:43 greensnark: i started to play WoW 15:24:54 lol jk just a little i just wanted a break from crawl for a bit 15:25:08 I was about to offer my condolences 15:25:25 But i sadly have gone to WoW for some entertainment 15:25:27 :D 15:25:46 I will just stay away from raiding and i'll be ok.........won't I? 15:26:52 there's something else to do in that time sink expect raid? 15:27:27 arenas! 15:27:46 yeah right, 2 second instagib fest 15:27:48 have fun with that 15:29:12 Is that what arenas are like now? I haven't touched wow in about 3 years 15:29:30 from what I've heard from my friends 16:01:21 merfolf: wrong message when water changes from deep to shallow (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1784) by galehar 16:09:57 Yes, arenas still are instagib fests for some class combos..its quite absurd. 16:10:17 You can find many things in WoW, entertainment is not among them 16:11:24 windows controls not working as expected (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1785) by Peter_H 16:16:26 trying to assign a macro in the windows tiles version leads to somewhat unexpected visuals (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1786) by Peter_H 16:16:58 Rrrgh, windows && tiles bugs. 16:30:12 you should just dump it like the DOS build, less problems 16:30:32 (no smiley as I was 33% serious) 16:35:46 by, you there? 16:41:56 dump the build that roughly 50% of the playerbase (might) use is a very good call! 16:42:12 Eh, who uses Windows anyway? ;) 16:42:15 it's over 50% iirc 16:43:10 you would lose 0% of your paying customer base :-) 16:46:35 Vehumet should bless use of airstrike (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1787) by minced 16:56:05 03Cryp71c * r04fdb0458c11 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Adjust mutation counts for monstrous DS 16:58:57 -!- Cryp71c has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:01:35 -!- Danei has quit [Quit: Holy shit, this is going to be awesome.] 17:08:31 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 17:57:53 -!- Mu_ has quit [Quit: Defecator, may everything turn out okay so that you can leave this place.] 18:02:56 -!- Textmode has joined ##crawl-dev 18:04:58 morning all 18:11:08 03dolorous * r1798288c454c 10/crawl-ref/source/mutation.cc: Add minor cosmetic fixes. 18:11:10 03dolorous * ra8392f9cc93f 10/crawl-ref/source/spells2.cc: Fix pluralization issues when wielding items. 18:44:35 morning 19:13:34 -!- syllogism has quit [Disconnected by services] 19:14:51 -!- syllogism_ has joined ##crawl-dev 19:17:26 Blink frogs not recognized as hostile monster (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1788) by angrykoopa 19:55:36 -!- syllogism_ has quit [] 20:28:44 -!- casmith789 has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51:46 -!- ogaz has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:00:37 -!- ortoslon has quit [Quit: bye] 21:07:22 -!- tinyrodent has joined ##crawl-dev 21:07:35 in trunk is oklob supposed to be immune to sticky flame? 21:07:35 tinyrodent: You have 1 message. Use !messages to read it. 21:07:43 !messages 21:07:43 (1/1) bhaak said (16w 3h 53m 45s ago): sorry to hear about your untimely death. I haven't done anything about the proverbial "gnome with a wand of death" because I don't know what to do. 21:08:29 ? 21:09:50 first henzell said i have 1 message now it says none? 21:09:55 bah 21:40:38 -!- ortoslon has joined ##crawl-dev 21:42:38 -!- tinyrodent has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:59:26 -!- purge has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:00:10 @??oklob plant 22:00:10 oklob plant (09P) | Speed: 10 | HD: 10 | Health: 30-80 | AC/EV: 10/0 | Flags: 03plant | Res: 06magic(40), 03poison, 08acid+++ | XP: 559 | Sp: acid splash (3d7+7d5). 22:08:20 Shadow Creatures summons Fungus (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1789) by mwoody 22:16:57 -!- ogaz has joined ##crawl-dev 22:58:35 Draconians should have some levels of claws/talons/fangs/etc (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1790) by angrykoopa 23:08:38 no {was cursed} after uncursing with EW (https://crawl.develz.org/mantis/view.php?id=1791) by ortoslon 23:37:25 -!- eith has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]